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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Martinr on December 03, 2012, 08:46:34 AM

Title: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Martinr on December 03, 2012, 08:46:34 AM

A selection of plants from the Dolomites this year. I've tentatively named most of them but can anyone confirm/correct please. I know you like a challenge :)

        ???
    Acinos alpinus     ??
    Arenaria sp.
    Dactylorhiza fuchsii
    Minuartia sedoides (1)
    Minuartia sedoides (2)
    Minuartia sedoides (3)
    Moehringia ciliata
    Orchid1
    Orchid2

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Martinr on December 03, 2012, 08:48:46 AM

And just to keep you busy, batch 2. Looking forward to the flood of responses ;)
 
      ???
    Orchid3
    Orchid4
    Saxifraga aizoides (1).
    Saxifraga aizoides (2)
    Saxifraga sp (1)
    Saxifraga sp (2)

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: ranunculus on December 03, 2012, 09:01:34 AM

Hi buddy,
I will have a look at the rest later, but No. 1 is definitely not Acinos alpinus.

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Martinr on December 03, 2012, 12:06:16 PM

Thanks Cliff, glad you share my conclusion on no 1......but what is it ???

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Lori S. on December 03, 2012, 01:32:45 PM

#1 is Ajuga reptans.

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Martinr on December 03, 2012, 02:35:23 PM

Thanks Lori, I think I had dismissed Ajuga as I expected the 'hood' to be longer. Shows how easily you can be fooled by only having 1 picture in 1 book to refer to!

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: astragalus on December 03, 2012, 03:28:14 PM

#1 is an ajuga, not acinos alpinus.  I'll look for a picture of acinos alpinus and post it.

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: astragalus on December 03, 2012, 03:34:08 PM

I believe this is Acinos alppinus, formerly called Calamintha alpina.

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: peter hood on December 03, 2012, 03:49:58 PM

Martin,

Thanks for the puzzles - I'll leave the white/off white ones to someone else - but I have had a look at the orchids: (I must be mad to speculate on the ID of Pink/Magenta orchids)
Dactylorhiza fuchsii seems to me to be correct.
I think Orchids 2, 3, 4 are all Dactylorhiza (Marsh Orchids)
2 is I think incarnata - perhaps ssp cruenta - did it have spotted leaves?
3 is what in Europe I would call Dactylorhiza majalis - I have no idea about the details of Marsh orchid taxonomy in Europe; if I was at home I would call it Dactylorhiza purpurella, but that is supposed only to exist on the North western Fringe of Europe.
4 Is less clear- my impression is that it is probably incarnata of some sort - rather than of the majalis group.

Orchid 1 is much harder - it appears not to be Dactylorhiza - perhaps some sort of Orchis. Superficialy it looks a bit like like Orchis simia but the details areall wrong.

Having completed the above list of speculation, I will leave it to others to agree or disagree

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Lvandelft on December 03, 2012, 04:31:10 PM

 Saxifraga aizoides (1).
    Saxifraga aizoides (2) are Saxifraga sedoides, look at the woolly leaves

and both Saxifraga spec. are very probably the same, but at a different location.

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Pauli on December 03, 2012, 05:06:04 PM

Servus,

orchid 1 should be a deformed Orchis mascula
orchid 2 a Dactylorhiza majalis (trilobed lip, mottled leaves?)
orchid 3 & $ Dact. incarnata (lip nearly entire, plain leafes)

and I agree with the determination of the saxes of Luit van Delft!

Title: Re: Dolomite head scratchers
Post by: Martinr on December 05, 2012, 05:04:36 PM

Thanks all, that concludes this year's Dolomites quiz :)