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Title: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 01, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
Hello.
C.sativus in December is probably a bit unusual (probably planted a little late). Unfortunately somewhat thin flowers.
In C.speciosus `Albus` even come until small peaks.
The plants (C.sativus, speciosus) are cool in the stairwell.
Outside suddenly are more than 30cm snow!
Regards, Daniel

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C.sativus
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C.speciosus - small but many flowers (2 bulbs)
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My bonsai corner
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 01, 2012, 07:53:26 PM
Oh my goodness! We have a little snow here, but 32 cms  is too much for now!
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 02, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
Hi Maggi.
Yes - thats realy unusual- but better than frost whitout snow.
Greetings from the snowy Saxony. Daniel
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 08, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
Today third flower on Crocus wattiorum and some sunshine to make pictures.
It seems there was an insect who likes the flowers to . >:(
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 08, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
Another one with black anthers was flowering today ....Crocus hyemalis .
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: I.S. on December 09, 2012, 04:16:21 PM
 Kris,
That is very nice to see C. hyemalis ans C. wattiorum from Belgium! Both are very sensitive for hardy winter conditions!!

Here is my first sipring crocus from last week. It always flowers this time of year in my conditions.
C. hittiticus
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 09, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
Here is my first sipring crocus from last week. It always flowers this time of year in my conditions.
C. hittiticus

A very good form with very nice anthers Ibrahim . Such species flower here at the beginning of january. I think I lost mine due the bad winter of 2011/2012 ...And even they where not so attractive as yours it is stil sad.
Like al the species with the black anthers ...
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Armin on December 09, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
nice images!  8) warms my heart and magnifying my longing for spring and warmer temperatures ;D
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 10, 2012, 06:42:31 AM
Excellent hittiticus, Ibrahim!
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 11, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
Here started real winter and next week is offered temperature dropping to minus 23 C. Garden is covered by snow, so only problem can be from rodents because soil still is not frozen. In greenhouse still few crocuses are blooming - generally laevigatus, melantherus, boryi and some others. This spring I collected some interesting pallasii. Few days ago I was pleasantly surprised seeing one bud coming up and for coming frost I carefully took it out and forced to bloom on my bathrooms window-sill. Quite nice although very late blooming. Some features are very special.
Janis

 Edit by Maggi :
 This crocus now identified as new species, described by Janis as C. macedonicus       2013
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Alex on December 15, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
A couple from today, C. biflorus melantherus (ex Peter Moore) and C. wattiorum from Tony Willis.

Alex
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: udo on December 17, 2012, 06:40:06 AM
Alex, nice Crocus wattiorum and so late! :o
When give you the first water?

After two cold weeks with minimum temperature -14°C here full in flower:
Crocus hyemalis from Israel
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 17, 2012, 12:39:51 PM
For me Crocus season finished. Today covered my greenhouse beds for winter. Sti8ll C.melantherus, laevigatus, caspius and few others had flowers, but temperature for more than week are around minus 5 C and for coming nights is offered dropping gradually to minus 15 and even minus 25 C next week.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 17, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
Hello Crocus friends!
What do you think- should that really be the first truly C.ochroleucus?
I would be very happy! ;D

Regards - Daniel
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Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: udo on December 18, 2012, 06:50:47 AM
Yes Daniel,
this looks like Crocus ochroleucus. :D
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 18, 2012, 08:12:16 AM
YES YES YES!
One of Five bulbs...
No matter - now I am pleased more with the one genuine than if all had been real!
Thank you Dirk!
Ciao
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Oron Peri on December 18, 2012, 09:06:26 AM
Crocus graveolens in flower now,
This specimen is originated to populations from South Lebanon where they bloom in December,
much earlier then those in Turkey.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 19, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
Crocus graveolens in flower now,
This specimen is originated to populations from South Lebanon where they bloom in December,
much earlier then those in Turkey.

That's just the colour that I needed for this moment Oron ..... bring some colour during the grey days we have here  .
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 21, 2012, 07:14:55 AM
Crocus graveolens in flower now,
This specimen is originated to populations from South Lebanon where they bloom in December,
much earlier then those in Turkey.
My single specimen of this form from Lebanon was killed last winter by extreme frost - down to minus 30 for 3 weeks.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Oron Peri on December 21, 2012, 07:25:28 AM
Thanks,

 Kris,
Glad i can help.... well, at least you have a good chocolate ;)

Janis,
In fact these colonies come from low altitudes and probably not very hardy,
the fact that they grow leaves at flowering time and develop seedpods soon after  indicate that they don't stay under the snow, well at least not more then a few days during winter.

 
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 22, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
A couple of very late flowering Crocus today.

In spite of the very heavy rain this Crocus speciosus seems ok in the shelter of a beech tree.

I brought a pot of Crocus biflorus ssp melantherus in from a cold frame to watch the flowers open in the warmth. (still playing with different colour backgrounds!)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 23, 2012, 09:48:10 AM
Dear Croconuts,
I wish you Merry Christmas and all the best in coming New Year! Growing of crocuses is not easy but not the heaviest job!
Yours
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 23, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
What a little beauty!

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Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 23, 2012, 07:07:57 PM
A couple of very late flowering Crocus today.

In spite of the very heavy rain this Crocus speciosus seems ok in the shelter of a beech tree.

I brought a pot of Crocus biflorus ssp melantherus in from a cold frame to watch the flowers open in the warmth. (still playing with different colour backgrounds!)

Super pix, Melvyn - very hard to choose what background is best ..  ???
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 23, 2012, 08:13:50 PM
A couple of very late flowering Crocus today.
I brought a pot of Crocus biflorus ssp melantherus in from a cold frame to watch the flowers open in the warmth. (still playing with different colour backgrounds!)

Very nice form Melvyn .I like the outside of the flowers .
Here nothing happens for the moment in the pots with my Crocus .....Many have a little nose above the soil , but that's just it .
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 23, 2012, 10:36:15 PM
Many thanks Luc and Kris, glad you like them.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on December 27, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
Crocus pelistericus in flower today

Its previous earliest flowering was 17th January and its latest 15th April.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 27, 2012, 12:22:03 PM
Crocus pelistericus in flower today

Its previous earliest flowering was 17th January and its latest 15th April.

Wow! The intensity of that colour!!
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: ronm on December 27, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
Crocus pelistericus in flower today

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Armin on December 27, 2012, 01:07:52 PM
I concur the notes from Martin and Ron.
A teriffic crocus. 8)

Tony, what do you think has caused the early flower this season?
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on December 27, 2012, 01:37:03 PM
Armin

I really cannot tell why it has flowered at this time but from my records as i said in my posting it has flowered over a long period in the past but the most flowers appear usually in March. In the wild of course in early may.

The rest of my plants of this species are just coming through the top dressing.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Roma on December 27, 2012, 02:17:22 PM
I still have a couple of Crocus pulchellus buds in the garden.  No hope of them ever opening.  It starts flowering about mid September and just keeps going. 
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 27, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
Crocus pelistericus in flower today

Its previous earliest flowering was 17th January and its latest 15th April.

Truly gorgeous, Tony !
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Ian Y on December 28, 2012, 11:04:07 AM
Great to see these Crocus flowers - it fairly cheers me up in the darkness
 The ones we have with flowers, mostly Crocus laevigatus, are not encouraged to open in the low light cold conditions we are currently experiencing - the buds give up after two or three weeks waiting for some warmth and wither with out ever opening .

Nice to see Crocus pelistericus flowering this early -  by coincidence I was just sorting through my picture files and was viewing this picture taken on 4th April - something to look forward to.



 
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on December 28, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Great to see these Crocus flowers - it fairly cheers me up in the darkness
 The ones we have with flowers, mostly Crocus laevigatus, are not encouraged to open in the low light cold conditions we are currently experiencing - the buds give up after two or three weeks waiting for some warmth and wither with out ever opening .

Nice to see Crocus pelistericus flowering this early -  by coincidence I was just sorting through my picture files and was viewing this picture taken on 4th April - something to look forward to.
WOW   :o :o WOW thats the best clump i have seen outside of its natural environment....stunning Ian.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: ian mcenery on December 28, 2012, 01:30:48 PM
Crocus pelistericus in flower today

Its previous earliest flowering was 17th January and its latest 15th April.

Very deep colour Tony. Is it possible that this is due to flowering early i.e. not much light around. Mine (from you Thanks) flowered in February last year and are not above ground yet
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 29, 2012, 01:37:15 PM
Hello crocusfriends!
Wonderfull blue crocusses!!!
Ian- what kind of an interesting plant in the picture on the left?
Today I was in the garden and was surprised!
Nearly 50cm snow are thawed and quite a few speciosus come to light -crooked but ...
These little flowers are soo strong!
Madness!

Love greetings - Daniel
PS: I never had such a beautiful winter like this year (I do not like winter!)!!!
Thank you crocuses!  ;D
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Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 29, 2012, 02:08:07 PM
Hello crocusfriends!
Wonderfull blue crocusses!!!
Ian- what kind of an interesting plant in the picture on the left?


Daniel that is an Erythronium sibiricum flower - lovely, is it not?  See more about this plant in the December 2012 IRG  e-magazine : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Dec271356608342IRG36December2012.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Dec271356608342IRG36December2012.pdf)

(Main International Rock Gardener page :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international)  )

Also see Ian's bulb logs : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb) to read more about Erythronium

There are links to the new Index for the Bulb Log and the IRG here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9896.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9896.0)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: de.da. on December 29, 2012, 05:40:10 PM
Thanks Maggie!
A very wonderfull plant this "Dogtooth"!
Dani
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 29, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
Yes Dani, with crocus, they are our favourites


Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: ashley on December 31, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
Crocus cvijicii    x2   ? possibly chrysanthus
Crocus veluchensis x cvijicii ('Rainbow Gold')    x2

Rather poor pictures I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 31, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Crocus cvijicii    x2
Crocus veluchensis x cvijicii ('Rainbow Gold')    x2
Rather poor pictures I'm afraid.

Very lovely plants Ashley ! Among my favorites , so never mind about the pictures. They are early to , here they are stil not above the soil ....I hope to enjoy two times .... now with your pictures and later with my own plants....
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: ashley on December 31, 2012, 04:04:05 PM
Thanks Kris.  Yes they're a bit earlier than usual because the weather here has been mild for several weeks now. 
The main problem is low light levels.  For example Romulea tempskyana flowers waited 3 weeks for enough sunshine and warmth, and are now going over without having opened at all.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 01, 2013, 07:52:24 AM
Crocus cvijicii    x2
Crocus veluchensis x cvijicii ('Rainbow Gold')    x2

Rather poor pictures I'm afraid.
Excellent! Are they blooming now?
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: ashley on January 01, 2013, 10:56:17 AM
They are Janis, unusually early even here. 
When they began to emerge several weeks ago I brought them under glass for protection from slugs and weather.  However for pollination they may need to come into the warmth of the house.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2012
Post by: udo on January 01, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
Crocus cvijicii    x2
Crocus veluchensis x cvijicii ('Rainbow Gold')    x2

Rather poor pictures I'm afraid.
Ashley, nice to see Crocus 'Rainbow Gold' in this time.
I remember me, the first flower from this hybrid was in flower on 1. April 2006, after a long winter.
I wish all members from this forum a happy new year. :D
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