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Title: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 02, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
    a Aircastle
    a Doctor Hugh
    a Evesham
    a Joyce Spirit
    a Joyce Spirit 1
    a Moon Shadow
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 02, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
    a Quiet Waters
    a Silent Valley
    a Unknown
    a Sergeant Caye
    a Sergeant Caye 1
    a York Minster
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Armin on May 03, 2012, 09:54:59 PM
Lovely, fine narcissus, Frazer.

Are all growing with you?
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: ian mcenery on May 08, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
Last one to flower from me

N  baby moon (I think)
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Kees Green on May 13, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
That Sargeant Kaye is fantactsic  :P

I have my first bloom here-Taffetta, quite a few more buds -I love how the hoops flower so early.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 13, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
Lovely, fine narcissus, Frazer.

Are all growing with you?

Armin,
Not all of them, the pictures were taken at a daffodil show - maybe next year I'll achieve the perfection of some of the best growers (some hope!).

Kees,
Sergeants Caye (1YYW-WWY) is exquisite and readily available at just £2 per bulb from www.choicebulbs.com (http://www.choicebulbs.com), a company owned by Frankie Charlton one of the premier showers of daffodils in the UK. He does deliver stock to EU (and accepts Euros in payment) but sadly not as far afield as NZ.

Frazer
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 14, 2012, 12:10:11 AM

Kees,
Sergeants Caye (1YYW-WWY) is exquisite and readily available at just £2 per bulb from www.choicebulbs.com (http://www.choicebulbs.com), a company owned by Frankie Charlton one of the premier showers of daffodils in the UK. He does deliver stock to EU (and accepts Euros in payment) but sadly not as far afield as NZ.

Frazer
Wouldn't be allowed to import anyway. :'(
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Kees Green on May 14, 2012, 09:56:32 AM
Is a shame indeed.
I guess we make do with what we have and do some crosses to try to emulate what others have done.  Its the years of waiting though. This hobby will make me patient or drive me crazy-likely both :P
Cant wait to see mini-daffs hybrids in a couple on months
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 15, 2012, 12:09:21 PM
I just look at all the imported fruit an veg at Pack 'n' Save and wonder what the problem is! Does it really cost a fortune to import one bulb? I'm thinking of one example that was bred here, but lost and had to make its way back.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 16, 2012, 05:58:44 AM
And I'm wondering which fruit or veg it was that carried that damned fruit fly into Auckland? No matter that it is costing the country (taxpayers) millions.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 16, 2012, 10:46:05 PM
Spiderlings of Nephila edulis (a giant orb web spider) are blown across the Tasman every year. If the fruit fly could survive here in Auckland, it would be here already! ::)
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Kees Green on May 17, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
They have to make it first in numbers or one pregnant female. I dont think there is any doubt that they could survive in Auckland.
The fact that the traps found one is either very good management or good fortune.
The fact that all you need to do is drop your fruit in the bins before customs is a concern to me.

Lesley I guess the biosecurity costs will be ongoing forever-and it needs to be, last time the painted apple moth and there has been a few times that fire ant colonies have been found near the airport.

I agree that bulbs pose very little threat as exotic pests to NZ, especially hybrids of daffodils but unfortunately the line has to be drawn somewhere :(
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 17, 2012, 11:45:34 AM
One must assume then that they don't travel far and the Tasman is a barrier? Fruit flies are very fruitful. Consider this: one female fruit fly (Drosophila melanogaster the vinegar fly) can, say lay 100 eggs. 50 males and 50 females emerge two weeks later. Each female can lay 100 eggs, so after four weeks you have 5000 fruit flies. Another two weeks and you have 250,000, then 12,500,000 etc. Supposing no limits and no predation. In one year, if you could fit 1000 fruit flies into the space contained by a match box, you would have a ball of fruit flies 90,000,000 miles across. That's from here to the sun! Goodness alone knows who worked this out!
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Gerdk on May 17, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
Anthony (Lesley): Are you talking about Drosophila melanogaster or the med fruit fly Ceratitis capitata? Isn't the latter one the most dreaded pest insect?

Gerd
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 17, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
I don't know, myself, Gerd. Anthony will know its (I was going to say botanical) scientific name. We are just told on our TV news that it is a male Queensland fruit fly, a real baddie for us apparently. If one were found in the trap, it seems possible that there are thousands more out there. If there were only a single fly, how likely is it that it would have found its way to a trap? Though I believe these are baited with pheromones.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 17, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
Fruit flies are very fruitful.

Too true but we mustn't let them get full of fruit. Not ours anyway. ::)
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Gerdk on May 18, 2012, 07:00:12 AM
Thank you Lesley, your fruit fly is Bactrocera tryoni - I don't know whether its dangerousness is the same as the med fruit fly.

Gerd
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Kees Green on May 18, 2012, 11:35:52 AM
Yes they are pheromone baited, I remember putting baits out for certain moth species with DoC probably 20+ years ago.

The queensland fruit fly in question is Bactrocera tryoni, so far no other specimens have been found and given the numbers as Anthony has said could occur this would dictate there should have been a lot more caught. We may have been extremely lucky again this time.
This is the third time that a single fruit fly of this species has been found in NZ without any colonies established, funny enough they have all been in Autumn.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 18, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
......which might suggest Auckland really isn't a suitable environment for for a tropical fruit fly? This being said, it is spreading into more temperate parts of Australia, but summers are much hotter than here. Studies suggest they routinely disperse up to 90km as adults, which would suggest they could easily be blown across the Tasman. Adults can live up to a year, so plenty of scope for hitching a lift. It seems that when ever an isolated outbreak occurs it can be successfully eradicated. I'm impressed with the systems in place to detect this insect!
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 19, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
A little Narcissus (and a tulip) flowering now at my summerhouse. I've forgotten which one.
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 20, 2012, 12:00:54 AM
How many summerhouses do you have? ;D
Title: Re: May Narcissus 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 22, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
How many summerhouses do you have? ;D

One to many maybe?

Actually I have one at the sea together with my sister and my wife has one in the mountains together with her sister ;) Both are small cabins and not luxurious  ;)
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