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Title: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on March 31, 2012, 08:35:34 PM
working on photos ...
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: ichristie on April 02, 2012, 01:22:40 PM
Dear All thanks for superb pictures from Hexam and congratulations on what looks like a great picnic at the end the cake looks mouthwatering. Ann and I went over to Belfast for the show at Greenmount we have so many friend in the Ulster group it was a great weekend. I will post some pictures from the show then more pictures from the gardens we visited on the sunday. I won the SRGC Quaich for best plant in a 19cm pots plus 2 other red tickets a second and a third. cheers Ian the Christie kind.

Bob Gordon and  Ray Drew
Farrer Medal winner
Ray and Harold Farrer plant
Best plant in 19cm pot- Hepatica
Cassiope 'Jim Lever'
David Lapsley
Erythronium
Harold's  trough
Liam and Joan McCaughey Photo winners
Ulster 3
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
Good to hear you and Ann had a grand time (as always!) with the chums over the water, Ian.

I'll move this thread to the "events" section.
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
I took photos of 50 plants at the show  :o I was pushed for time and had the idea to photograph only red ticket plants. Stoopid me I didnt.

Do I show all plants or what I like?
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2012, 03:02:27 PM
Heck, show 'em all... we can then decide which ones we like!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: johnw on April 02, 2012, 05:08:06 PM
Ian  - Was the Ulster winner Rhododendron 'Shamrock'? 

johnw
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: ichristie on April 02, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
Hello the Rhododendron was R. ludlowii a cracker. We visited Harold McBrides Garden and Bob Gordons and Margaret Glynnes sorry no pictures from Margarets as it was Getting dark. cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Diane Clement on April 02, 2012, 07:18:17 PM
Hello the Rhododendron was R. ludlowii a cracker.

Wow, that takes some doing  :o   :o
Do you know if it was the original L&S clone?
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:14:36 PM
Narcissus
Draba
Cyclamen
Salvia
Tropaeolum
Pulsatilla
Lewisia
Draba
Gladiolus
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:17:13 PM
Pleione
Pleione
Cyclamen
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:20:04 PM
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Sax
Hepatica
Primula
Trillium
mini garden
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:23:28 PM
Ipheon
Cassiope
Primula
Trillium
Trillium
Frit
Pleione
Pleione
Lewisia
Gentian
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:27:21 PM
Primula
Primula
Primula
Primula
Dionysia
Trillium
Erythronium
Veronica
Primula
Rhododendron
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Farrer winner

Rhododendron
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: johnw on April 02, 2012, 09:49:45 PM
Farrer winner Rhododendron

Hmmmm..... Doesn't look like ludlowii to me.  Should have roundish flowers.  Jens?  Also leaves don't match; more leaves in the picture than a ludlowii would have in a lifetime.

A Farrer return?  :o

johnw

Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2012, 11:48:23 PM

Hmmmm..... Doesn't look like ludlowii to me.  Should have roundish flowers.  Jens?  Also leaves don't match; more leaves in the picture than a ludlowii would have in a lifetime.
johnw


 To me the yellow is too acidic for R. ludlowii. The bells too acutely shaped and the stamens ought not to be exserted, should they? Straight style, longer than the stamens but shorter than the bell ?
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 03, 2012, 04:49:40 AM
It looks like (but better thnn) my 'Shamrock.'

Wonderful plant of Veronica bombycina. :D
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: ichristie on April 03, 2012, 08:10:45 AM
O/K everyone I will ask the Master himself perhaps I got it wrong, Ian
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Diane Clement on April 03, 2012, 08:26:19 AM

Hmmmm..... Doesn't look like ludlowii to me.  Should have roundish flowers.  Jens?  Also leaves don't match; more leaves in the picture than a ludlowii would have in a lifetime.
johnw


 To me the yellow is too acidic for R. ludlowii. The bells too acutely shaped and the stamens ought not to be exserted, should they? Straight style, longer than the stamens but shorter than the bell ?

Yes, sadly, it certainly seems far too well flowered for ludlowii, it definitely looks more like a hybrid.  
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 03, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
Good to see Bob and Harold are both looking well. I haven't seen them for a while though I have been in touch.

I love Ian's photographs of the trilliums in Bob's garden as I have a clump of them growing here in mine - a kind gift, as is always the case, from Bob.

Paddy
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: angie on April 03, 2012, 10:17:22 AM
Mark brilliant pictures, thanks for showing them to us. Looks as if it was a really good show. Some lovely plants there.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 03, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
There was a shortage of plants at the show. I had plants but didnt enter anything. When Edrom or Kevock get an invite to sell I'll start to show again. There is a demand for new nurseries but the show committee are resisting .. grrrr
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: ichristie on April 03, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
Dear all  here is the message from Harold and yes we did ask questions about the name when judging. Mark, I have been informed that other nurseries have been asked but when you look at the costs it is now very expensive from Scotland with Ferry B and B then fuel my cost were around £500 not that I am complaining as I wanted to visit the friends we have known for over 25 years, cheers Ian the Christie kind



 Ian
 The Rhodo was purchased from a small nursery in Suffolk   ( " The secret garden ")  as a tiny plant in a 4" pot   (2005) as X  Ludowii .   I have since seen   R. Shamrock in gardens & it looks identical ..   I exhibited it under X. Ludlowii as I was not sure if indeed it had been named  or was the same plant .  I once won a Farrer with Ludlowii   ( 1983 ) & on request I gave it to Glendoick to use for hybridization work as they had lost their stock plants .  I would say it is certainly a Ludlowii Hyb  & is of course a lot easier to flower  & indeed grow than the parent plant .   
 I did not expect  to win a Farrer with a Rhodo Hyb , but in the past I won a FM with R. X " Curlew" - which is of course  also a R. Ludlowii hyb    ( R. Ludowii X Fletcherianum ), but a much larger plant when mature .

Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 03, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
Thanks Ian. When I spoke to Edrom at Loughborough they were really keen to come to the Ulster or Dublin shows. Maybe our group should consider helping nurseries attend
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Tim Ingram on April 03, 2012, 07:00:27 PM
Mark - it is interesting you should say that about nurseries, because costs are relatively high even travelling around the UK. Generally I think the Shows try to cover the costs of hiring the venue from the charges made to nurseries, but you could argue that the nurseries are as strong a draw as the Show plants themselves for visitors, and some reduction in charges might encourage more nurseries to attend. This would only work if improved advertising for the Shows could stimulate greater attendance (otherwise there would be no more income), something I have been strongly arguing for because I feel not enough gardeners outside the AGS get to hear about the Shows. Limited reaction so far from anyone, and Ulster is obviously in a more difficult position than most being 'across the water'. Would be very interesting to know more of the attendance at different Shows, and how many visitors attend. It is difficult to attract more gardeners but I think a very worthwhile aim. The fact that really good nurseries are few and far between in Ireland (overall), should be a particularly good reason to make the Ulster Show even more special and enticing than it already is!
Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: mark smyth on April 03, 2012, 10:37:19 PM
Tim when Aberconwy first came over their stand was mobbed and they went home with with practically nothing. They now come over three times a year for our show, the Dublin show and the discussion weekend.

Title: Re: Ulster AGS show at Greenmount
Post by: Onion on April 04, 2012, 03:47:49 AM
I think it look like Rh. ludlowii 'Wren'. But in this size an with the "yellow flower carpet" always a winner.
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