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Title: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on March 24, 2012, 10:01:41 AM
It is the time of year here where the fungi are beginning to emerge.

Here is todays offering

1  Tylopilus formosus a New Zealand bolete found in beech (Nothofagus) forests.

2 Russula sp

3 Cortinarius sp

4 Unidentified
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on March 24, 2012, 07:17:29 PM
David, I like the bolete very much! It is very different from those growing here like Boletus edulis. Is yours edible?
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on March 24, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
Hello Trond,

It is not edible. It is quite woody and is reputed to be bitter.

Here is another fungus that is always eye-catching Cortinarius porphyroideus (syn Thaxterogaster porphyreus = Thaxter's purple stomach). These secotioid fungi were originally thought to form a natural group until it was realised the secotioid or pouched form arose independently in different lineages. So Dr Thaxter's colourful stomach is no longer celebrated by mycologists.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on March 24, 2012, 10:33:45 PM
David, I could be tempted to grow colourfull mushrooms in stead of plants! Maybe they would like the humid climate here!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on March 25, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
David, I could be tempted to grow colourfull mushrooms in stead of plants! Maybe they would like the humid climate here!

You would have to grow the southern beech trees (Nothofagus) as well. We are getting huge crops of Amanita muscaria associated with introduced conifers; everyone with a digital camera is out taking pictures of them and they appear in photographic competitions every year. I am resisting the temptation.

The New Zealend fungal foray will be held in Riverton ( southern coast of South Island ) in May. I will be attending and hopefully will get some good photos
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on March 25, 2012, 11:55:40 AM
I already have some Nothofagus species in the garden ;)

I also have several Amanita species but not muscaria. However it is quite common here.
I once read that different species of fungi were deliberately spread in conifer plantations to enhance growth everywhere in the former British Empire and specifically in East Africa where European species were grown.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: johnw on March 25, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
I already have some Nothofagus species in the garden ;)

Hoy - Which Nothofagus species are hardy for you?

johnw
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on March 25, 2012, 08:36:22 PM

Hoy - Which Nothofagus species are hardy for you?

johnw

I have only South American species and none from New Zealand. Have to mend that!

The first one i planted was N. antarctica and I still have it. It is rather common around here and fully hardy. I also have a small tree somewhat similar to antarctica but the leaves are much bigger and the tree is much smaller and not upright. I have also tried obliqua and dombeyi but they froze in the very cold winter 2 years ago - I am not sure I have any left. Now I have small plants of macrocarpa but haven't tried it outside yet.

I know pumilio is very promising and seems to be a better garden tree and hardier than antarctica. It is grown some places although I don't have it.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on May 03, 2012, 06:31:55 AM
Here is a rather striking coral fungus I found today near Dunedin. I will be attending the NZ Fungal foray next week so may have some more pictures then.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 14, 2012, 06:09:36 PM
David, are all NZ mushrooms of the violet color?  :o Fantastic!

My son's yesterday spoil (Gyromitra esculenta).
(http://cs301108.userapi.com/v301108879/8f0/6W6yC8BYRe4.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on May 14, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
Oh! Not even well cooked would I eat false morels  :o :-X
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 14, 2012, 06:19:29 PM
Maggi, I've eaten them every year since my childhood. May be that's why I am so strange?  :o ;D

I ate them yesterday, I ate them today morning. I am OK as usual.  :)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on May 14, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
Illegal to sell in some countries I believe. :o :o If prepared incorrectly they can be fatal!
I'll stick with my Ceps. ;D ;D. Although I would love to know more about edible fungi.

Very interesting post Olga, showing the difference in attitude between different cultures.  :)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on May 14, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Maggi, I've eaten them every year since my childhood. May be that's why I am so strange?  :o ;D

I ate them yesterday, I ate them today morning. I am OK as usual.  :)
Happily, Olga, this tells us that you know what you are doing... and you are a good cook!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 14, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
Illegal to sell in some countries I believe.
Why?
Quote
If prepared incorrectly they can be fatal!
We boil them three times changing water. Next fry with onions and cream.
Of course I do not let anybody to do the same and eat the mushroom.  :) It's tasty but nothing special, similar to most other mushrooms taste.
Quote
Very interesting post Olga, showing the difference in attitude between different cultures.  :)
Yes.  :)

Happily, Olga, this tells us that you know what you are doing... and you are a good cook!
Maggi, I was poisoned by a deadly mushroom 20 years ago. I was very lucky ate only 1 piece. Now I am very careful with fungi.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on May 14, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Why? - because it may be fatal if eaten raw or wrongly cooked, apparently. Seems many poisoning cases are reported annually in Scandanavia and Eastern Europe.

You know better than me though Olga. Obviously the gathering and eating of these is part of your heritage. ;) :) :)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 14, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
We have had a discussion on this theme in Norway now http://www.biologforeningen.org/enbiolog/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23350&whichpage=2 (http://www.biologforeningen.org/enbiolog/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23350&whichpage=2)
Some eat it and some don't.  I've never tried it although it grows in my garden.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 14, 2012, 06:58:54 PM
Here is a rather striking coral fungus I found today near Dunedin. I will be attending the NZ Fungal foray next week so may have some more pictures then.

Very striking indeed, David! I've seen yellow, orange, yellow and red, white and similar colours but never blue :o
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Stephenb on May 15, 2012, 08:03:39 AM
I remember in the 80s attending a talk at the local botanical club here given by Olav Gjærevoll, who was the world's first environmental minister (and botanist). He told us that he had eaten so much False Morels during the last war and afterwards that the next time could be fatal (he believed that the poison built up in the liver). That put me off!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on May 18, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
Hello Olga,

I was very interested in reading your post on Gyromitra esculenta and you comments on its edibility. We have a very similar species here in New Zealand, Gyromitra tasmanica, which my reference catergorically states as being poisonous. I dont know if anyone has ever tried eating it as presumeably it contains the same toxin, hydrazine, as the European species and could be rendered safe in a similar manner. The violet coral fungus I posted is an undescribed species of Ramaria.

Trond,

Coral fungi are plentiful here and can be white orange, yellow or sometimes a muddy purple. The violet one is fairly exceptional. Most people tell me to go away when I ask for an identification of any from this group.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on May 19, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
Here is a selection of some of the fungi that we found on the 25th New Zealand Fugal Foray last week. We were based at Riverton which is on the southern coast of the South Island just to the west of Invercargill. We collected on the Longwood Range, Lake Hauroko, Lake Monowai and the Kepler Track at Rainbow Reach. The group contains both professional and amatuer mycologists. This year we had a visitor from the New York Botanic Gardens amongst our number who was an expert on boletes. So I will start with a couple of boletes.

1,2 Chalciporus piperatus an exotic bolete that seems to be associated with Amanita muscaria another exotic that is abundant here. The Amanita seems to be moving into native Nothofagus forest which was where I found this specimen.

3. Austroboletus lacunosus a NZ native associated with Nothofagus - this is the first time I have seen this species

4. Cortinarius cretax associated with Nothofagus.

5. Gallacea scleroderma a purple, truffle-like fungus found under Nothofagus

6. A coral fungus, Artomyces turgidus

7. Cantharellus wellingtonensis

8, 9 Clitocybe nothofaginea

10 Weraroa virescens,  a saprophyte
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: johnw on May 19, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
David

re: 5. Gallacea scleroderma a purple, truffle-like fungus found under Nothofagus

The leaves surrounding the fungus, they look like N. antarctica leaves or is there a similar NZ species?

johnw
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 19, 2012, 08:46:55 PM
A nice collection, David!
Is the Cantharellus edible and tasting as good as C cibarius (the common one here)?

The purple "truffle" is strange. Did you have to dig for it or do they grow like that?

I just read they had done some DNA tests on the previous 9 "known" species of coral fungi here in Norway. Now we have 35 species!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Lyttle on May 20, 2012, 12:10:15 AM
John,

The leaves with toothed margins are from silver beech (Nothofagus menziesii) and the leaves with smooth margins are from mountain beech (Nothofagus solandri var cliffortiodes). The other beech found in the area is red beech, Nothofagus fusca, but it is less common being found on warmer better-drained sites.

Trond,

I have no idea as to the edibility or otherwise of the Cantharellus; however the individual caps are quite small. The Gallacea is as it was found on the surface.

I am not surprised that DNA sequencing has revealed a lot of diversity in Norwegian coral fungi. The truffle like fungi found in New Zealand are quite diverse and do not form a natural group arising independently from multipe genera.  Nothilepiota = bolete, Thaxterogaster= Cortinarius, Macowanites = Russula
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: johnw on May 20, 2012, 03:02:20 AM
Thanks David. I love the Nothofagus.  Too bad we can only grow N. antarctica, a gem though and does well in wet soils and seems to love wind.  Several notable ones about and have always missed the seed when ripe.

johnw
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 25, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
Apparently, there's a new,  fruity-smelling fungus, which looks and acts more like a sponge than a mushroom, that has been found in the jungles of Borneo. Its scientific name is Spongiforma squarepantsii. 8)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: zvone on May 28, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Hi!

First this year's Leccicinum scabrum from my garden:


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rIoWGK5b3PE/T8PyAYZH33I/AAAAAAAAIjQ/6CWowyJtqoM/s640/20120526_194042.jpg)

Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on June 05, 2012, 01:56:06 PM
In case anyone thought you were joking Anthony,  :o :o -

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/16/weird-wild-spongebob-mushroom-named/ (http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/16/weird-wild-spongebob-mushroom-named/)

Not sure of its name, but thought this little fungi ( only 15mm across ) worthy of a look, as it doesn't take up much room! ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on June 05, 2012, 02:14:18 PM
Nice mosaic pattern Ron a few from me.

(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/008-5.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/010-2.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/012-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on June 05, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Weird and wonderful Davey,  8)

Are these from your garden, or somewhere nearby?

I think the first one is Polyporus squamosa, as most likely is the second ( an older fruiting body ),
the third a Bolbitius sp, possibly titubans ( perhaps too early for this though ).

Seems you have a very active Fungi group in your area, with a very nice homepage

http://www.nottsfungigroup.org.uk/home.html (http://www.nottsfungigroup.org.uk/home.html)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on June 05, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
Thanks for the id Ron i am new to fungi,i just think they are so lovely looking and would to learn more so thank you for the link as well.These were in a wood i go to photograph local orchids.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on June 05, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
I wish I knew more about them also Davey  ::) ??? The second one you show has me completely stumped, although it really shouldn't as its by far the most obvious,  ::). I just cannot seem to get it to key out,  :-[ :-[.
Garlic mushrooms with dinner tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on June 10, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
Are there varieties of fungus in the UK that display the marvelous lilac and purple shades that David L. shows us from NZ?
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hans J on June 29, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
Here some Octopus fungi (Anthurus archerii ) from my area :
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on June 29, 2012, 01:49:32 PM
They are definitely scary - I wouldn't want to meet them on a dark night.  :o  Good photos though.

I hope Maggi doesn't view these pictures.... ;)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on June 29, 2012, 01:53:33 PM
I already did! Yes, those are  frightening looking "creatures"...  never seen such a thing before and they are quite fascinating.
I had just been enjoying Gerd's lovely, peaceful wildflower fields ( http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9248.msg250416#msg250416 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9248.msg250416#msg250416) ) and thinking how fine the red poppies look, then I came  upon these scary fungi -  Nothing if not a contrast!  :D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Roma on July 16, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
Spotted this colourful slime fungus when orchid hunting on Saturday.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on July 18, 2012, 02:04:27 PM
Yesterday this was seen for the very first time it's
Helvella lacunosa Black fluted elfin saddle fungus and Ron if cooked well it is edible  ;D
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/057-1.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/058-1.jpg)
But looks like a false morel so i will staying away from that until i get a positive id.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on July 18, 2012, 02:20:40 PM
It smelled absolutely fantastic. :o :o Made my mouth water ;D.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on July 20, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
Hans, you were very lucky to meet this red fungi.  :o

Running stars. :)
(http://cs308219.userapi.com/v308219879/7b9/CGlsv-5mdNA.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 20, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
I've seen patches of Roma's slime fungus in the 50cm pile of woodchips on my driveway. The chips are some Cupressus macrocarpa and a few other odds and ends which were cut down 2 or 3 months ago and when I dig into the pile, as I did yesterday to load some on a barrow, the moisture was very slimy too, a mixture of rain and the resin from the conifer. That cm is cubic metres not centimetres!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Lori S. on July 21, 2012, 12:15:46 AM
I find all these fungi fascinating, despite that I can't identify any of the ones I see!

NB.  cm = centimeter
Abbreviations for "cubic meter" are m3, cu. m, etc..
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 22, 2012, 05:04:12 AM
Yeah, right, not up to much right now.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on July 22, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
Could somebody id this for me please.
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/018-9.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/019-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 22, 2012, 10:47:57 AM
I'm still grappling with Hans's octopus fungus. I wonder if it can predict the results of any of the Olympic events? ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on July 22, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
Could somebody id this for me please.

(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/019-8.jpg)

 Crumbs! That looks lke a fungus suffering with an attack of fungus........ :-X
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 10, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
Another long shot I know as we don't seem to have many fungi fanciers on the Forum, but can anyone ID these for me please.  ???
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 11, 2012, 09:38:48 PM
Another long shot I know as we don't seem to have many fungi fanciers on the Forum, but can anyone ID these for me please.  ???

Does it look like this: http://www.hexeringen.org/ny_side_1.htm (http://www.hexeringen.org/ny_side_1.htm)

Hygrocybe phaeococcinea ??
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 11, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
Great call Hoy! It must be a Hygrocybe sp. And for me that is well close enough. Thanks  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ruweiss on August 13, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
We found this enormous fungus at a slope in the Ligurian Alps this year in June
and would be grateful for identification by the experts.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hans J on August 13, 2012, 11:14:44 PM
Rudi ,

it is a "Riesenbovist" :

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riesenbovist (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riesenbovist)

I have also sometimes found this kind of fungi in mountains

Hans
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 14, 2012, 07:02:51 AM
Don't know the name. A little fungi grown in the grass of my lawn.

(http://cs302512.userapi.com/v302512879/2bff/0JlGGmrYheo.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 14, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
We found this enormous fungus at a slope in the Ligurian Alps this year in June
and would be grateful for identification by the experts.

I think it is Handkea utriformis (syn Lycoperdon utriforme, Calvatia utriformis) hasenbovist und nicht riesenbovist!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hans J on August 14, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Hoy ,

after my books is Handkea much smaller :
http://www.pilzlexikon.eu/hasen-staeubling.html (http://www.pilzlexikon.eu/hasen-staeubling.html)

 ;D but I'm far away to be a expert

Rudi : hast Du gemessen wie groß der Pilz war ?
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 14, 2012, 09:45:33 AM
We found this enormous fungus at a slope in the Ligurian Alps this year in June
and would be grateful for identification by the experts.

In English this fungi is called a Giant Puffball - Calvatia gigantea

Marvelous things - the young ones look like someone has left bread dough to rise and then they look a bit like brains, decaying to a fairly messy end!  When they are young and pure white all the way through, they are edible.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Ulla Hansson on August 14, 2012, 10:05:27 AM
They are in my opinion, not very good. They feel a bit of foam to cut in. But cool to see in nature.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 14, 2012, 10:34:38 AM
I've seen giant puff balls on an old manure heap near Dunblane. Several, each over 20 cm in diameter! I've eaten the smaller puff balls. Tastes very like omelette.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 14, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
When they are young
They feel a bit of foam
That means they are not young Ulla. When they are young they are dense and elastic. We found a big one up to 30 cm in my childhood. Very tasty fried with onions and fragrant sunflower oil.  :)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Ulla Hansson on August 14, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
Olga, your description of the texture of the fungus is better than mine. The fungi that I've eaten has been completely white straight through.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 15, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
Hoy ,

after my books is Handkea much smaller :
http://www.pilzlexikon.eu/hasen-staeubling.html (http://www.pilzlexikon.eu/hasen-staeubling.html)

 ;D but I'm far away to be a expert

Rudi : hast Du gemessen wie groß der Pilz war ?

I'm no expert either but I think Handkea utriformis can reach 25cm across.

In English this fungi is called a Giant Puffball - Calvatia gigantea

Marvelous things - the young ones look like someone has left bread dough to rise and then they look a bit like brains, decaying to a fairly messy end!  When they are young and pure white all the way through, they are edible.

Maggi, Calvatia gigantea don't have the reticulate skin like this, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 15, 2012, 11:24:44 AM
I'm no expert either but I think Handkea utriformis can reach 25cm across.

Maggi, Calvatia gigantea don't have the reticulate skin like this, as far as I know.

Thanks, Trond,
 I thought all the puffballs could have reticulated skins at some point in their development.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ruweiss on August 15, 2012, 09:55:09 PM
Dear friends,
Many thanks for the quick identification.
Hans, I had no tape measure with me, but think, that the fungus was about
20 cm in length.
Wish I could  find  some time a truffle with this dimensions!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
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Warning! - the following images may make your eyes pop  ;D ;D ;D

Amanita muscaria, The Fly Agaric.  Autumn can't be far away here,  :( :(
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 17, 2012, 07:13:49 PM
But where are the flies? . . . you have to collect those for Xmas decorations!

Here is my mushroom for today: (yes, it is)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 07:20:37 PM
But where are the flies? . . . you have to collect those for Xmas decorations!

There are two theories, well worth Googling, as to why they are called Fly Agaric.
Really?? .... Xmas decorations !! please explain further Hoy. :)

Can anyone point to any corroboration that the 'Norse raiders to these shores' sent the Beserkers to the for in battle because they thought they were immortal due to the effects of this Fungi??? :o :o :o
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 17, 2012, 07:23:23 PM
Not strictly corroboration, Ron, but I've heard similar tales about gangs from rival football teams..........
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 07:25:41 PM
 :o :o Modern day 'Beserkers'.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 17, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
:o :o Modern day 'Beserkers'.  ::) ::)


 Oops, clicked the wrong button there.... yes, modern day Beserkers is probably a good way to  describe some of those guys.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 17, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
There are two theories, well worth Googling, as to why they are called Fly Agaric.
Really?? .... Xmas decorations !! please explain further Hoy. :)

Can anyone point to any corroboration that the 'Norse raiders to these shores' sent the Beserkers to the for in battle because they thought they were immortal due to the effects of this Fungi??? :o :o :o


The Norwegian name means the same: Fluesopp. So it is not to lure the flies but the contrary ;)

It's much used as an ornamental at Xmas - not the real toadstool however but artistic copies:

(http://www.pickles.no/storage/julepynt/felted_mushroom.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1261170995940)

http://www.google.no/search?q=julepynt+sopp&hl=no&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=cqS&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=H5IuUOfRHqbl4QSOw4CIDg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=550#hl=no&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=QB8&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=julepynt+fluesopp&oq=julepynt+fluesopp&gs_l=img.3...100044.101068.0.101723.4.4.0.0.0.0.102.312.3j1.4.0...0.0...1c.TLif2KkqNIM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=3f6f969e77d14dc3&biw=1173&bih=550 (http://www.google.no/search?q=julepynt+sopp&hl=no&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=cqS&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=H5IuUOfRHqbl4QSOw4CIDg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=550#hl=no&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=QB8&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=julepynt+fluesopp&oq=julepynt+fluesopp&gs_l=img.3...100044.101068.0.101723.4.4.0.0.0.0.102.312.3j1.4.0...0.0...1c.TLif2KkqNIM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=3f6f969e77d14dc3&biw=1173&bih=550)

I've seen freeze dried real toadstools - they're fine but I've never tried myself.

The berserks never used fly agaric but some Siberian tribes did. They wore bear (ber) shirts (serk) and drank mead (mjød).

Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 08:03:12 PM
 :o :o :o :o Amazing images ( in the link ) Hoy. Very special. Think I'll do some this Xmas and see what reactions we get ;D ;D Love the glass tree decorations and the 'sewn' Fluesopp.

Thanks for bothering to share this info. and also clearing up the 'Beserkers' story.  ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 17, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Ronm, you are welcome; it's a pleasure ;D

If you want to try fly agaric use the urine of a person who has eaten the mushroom. It works better they say and you don't get that bad headache. :o
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
I'm sure you are correct Hoy, and will try at the first opportunity,  8) 8)

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I am by far the biggest liar in the world!!!
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hans J on August 17, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
to Amanita muscaria - the german name is "Fliegenpilz"

so far I know have earlier farmers made this fungi ( cuttet ) in a jar with milk ...this jar they bring in the house for the cow's ...when the flies cames and drink from this milk so they are dead after short time ...
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 17, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria)


The major toxins involved in poisoning are muscimol (3-hydroxy-5-aminomethyl-1-isoxazole, an unsaturated cyclic hydroxamic acid) and ibotenic acid. Muscimol is the product of the decarboxylation (usually by drying) of ibotenic acid. Muscimol and ibotenic acid were discovered in the mid-20th century.[67][68] Researchers in England,[69] Japan,[70] and Switzerland[68] showed that the effects produced were due mainly to ibotenic acid and muscimol, not muscarine . . . .

A substantial fraction of ingested ibotenic acid is excreted in the urine unmetabolized quite rapidly, between 20 and 90 minutes after ingestion. Virtually no muscimol is excreted when pure ibotenic acid is eaten but muscimol is detectable in the urine after eating A. muscaria, which contains both ibotenic acid and muscimol

In Norwegian:
Bruk

Rød fluesopp har blitt rapportert helt til nyere tid som enteogen i Øst- og Vest-Sibir, i ritualer med formål å kommunisere med åndeverden. De aktive ingrediensene blit utskilt i urinen til den som konsumerer soppene. Det har derfor i noen tilfeller vært praksis at sjamanen spiser soppene først, for å så la andre i stammen drikke urinen. Sjamanen renser da vekk de mest giftige stoffene (svette og rykninger blir forårsaket av muskarin, som ikke er tilstede i urinen). Denne metoden ble brukt av de fattigste i stammen, da de ikke hadde råd til sopp selv. Prisen på en sopp på sitt verste kunne ofte koste et helt reinsdyr. Sjamanene urinerte derfor i kopper og krus til de økonomisk strevende siden det var eneste mulighet til at alle kunne delta i ritualet. Soppene blir sjeldent konsumert rå, men i soltørket form hvor de hallusinogene stoffene er mer konsentrert (ibotensyre blir omdannet til det langt mindre giftige og langt mer psykedeliske stoffet muskimol).
Etymologi

Fluesoppen ble i gamle dager sagt å brukes som insektmiddel, i knust form blandet med melk. Denne metoden dreper dog ikke fluen, men legger den heller i dvale, lenge nok til at mennesker som "ikke ville gjøre en flue fortred" kan kaste den ut vinduet.

Det eksisterer ofte flere sider av samme sak og annen part mener at navnet aldeles ikke kommer fra den alternative insektsmiddelløsningen, men at det her dreide seg om effekten av å konsumere soppen. Det ble sagt at selve rusopplevelsen, ifølge historien, kunne få vedkommendes hode til å simre og føles som en flue.

It says the fly isn't killed but tranquilized.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 17, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
I was just about to say that... ;D ;D :P :P

It says the fly isn't killed but tranquilized.

A 40 yr old Glenfiddich does that to me !! :P :P :P
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 17, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
40 years :o I've never tasted that :'(

I just read somebody had tested 40 years old milk stored in a bog (it's the old way to store fish) and it was still drinkable :-X I would prefer some of the brown stuff.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 20, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
I thought this was a particularly nice group of Ganoderma sp., bracket fungus. If this is sp. G. applanantum, The Artists Conch, then it is the one, ( according to some ), responsible for the loss of the famous Anne Frank Horsechestnut tree, Aesculus hippocastanum in Amsterdam. Others blame a moth ( Cameraria ohridella ),... some blame both!! :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 20, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
We've just been discussing a really superb bracket fungus that is on a tree on the Aberden ring road. It is a cracker!
Not a very handy spot to get a photo, I'm afraid... and anyway, it's quite high up the tree. We hope that will at least protect it from some eejit thwacking it off. :-X
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Rogan on August 23, 2012, 01:07:41 PM
Nothing at all special really, just a puffball in the woods...   8)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on August 23, 2012, 02:10:56 PM
Neat thing - we call those "earthstars"
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on August 25, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
I thought this was a lovely little woodland scene.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 26, 2012, 08:31:26 AM
Neat thing - we call those "earthstars"
Yes, in Norw. "jordstjerne" which means the same ;)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Hoy on August 26, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
I thought this was a lovely little woodland scene.
Are you sure it isn't made by Walt Disney Co to Snow White?
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 26, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
Nothing at all special really, just a puffball in the woods...   8)
For me it's special! I've never saw it here. A very interesting object for shooting.

Some mushrooms from yesterday's hunting.
For eating:

Leccinum sp.
(http://cs302512.userapi.com/v302512879/3186/eFAlM6IUS74.jpg)

Macrolepiota procera, umbrella-fungi
(http://cs302512.userapi.com/v302512879/3196/6Y245is9aHI.jpg)

For photographing:

Ceratiomyxa fruticulosa
(http://cs302512.userapi.com/v302512879/317e/0zxrgfqVvWM.jpg)

Ceratiomyxa fruticulosa and unknown fungi
(http://cs302512.userapi.com/v302512879/318e/7DVrpaQi_K8.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Oron Peri on August 26, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Fantastic photos [as usual] Olga
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on September 07, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
Where are all mushroom hunters? It's the best time now!

Lactarius deterrimus

(http://cs302513.userapi.com/v302513879/29bf/usMv_T3UA3o.jpg)

(http://cs302513.userapi.com/v302513879/29c7/DYZ6P6IjluU.jpg)

Garden  :( Armillariella mellea

(http://cs302513.userapi.com/v302513879/29d7/dc_LdJ4_PLU.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on September 09, 2012, 09:44:59 AM
Great pictures Olga.  8)
It has been so warm and dry ::) ::) here for weeks, nothing new is showing itself. There are many species due to fruit soon ( if it ever properly rains  ;D), so I'll certainly be foraging and picturing when they do.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Pauli on September 09, 2012, 03:47:19 PM
Very dry here, so nearly no mushrooms after a good start in July.
Here a nice scene in a park (Boletus sp.)

Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on September 09, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
Are they one of the edible Boletus sp. Pauli, and if so are they still there?? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Pauli on September 09, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
They are still there,  so .....
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on September 09, 2012, 05:54:51 PM
Shame,  :( . The 'Penny Bun' has to be my favourite 'shroom,  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Natalia on September 12, 2012, 08:35:34 PM
....and some mushrooms from our woods
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Roma on September 12, 2012, 08:56:30 PM
The squirrels were there first.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: fredg on September 13, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
I appear to have a load of balls in the garden  ::)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: zvone on September 20, 2012, 08:22:15 PM
Hi!

Today am "shot of capital"!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wRKgs7237tQ/UFtpzA4X0tI/AAAAAAAAMDE/cAHHSCval5s/s640/20120920_181156.jpg)

Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 21, 2012, 09:39:24 PM
That's a whopper. Just needs windows and a door and it could be in a fairy tale. 8)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on September 22, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Not sure of the name of this one, but I have in the back of my mind that it is very delicious ;D ;D. Too scared to try it though! :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: zvone on September 23, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
That's a whopper. Just needs windows and a door and it could be in a fairy tale. 8)


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xw7f1aWB1vE/UF7ANCQ_OsI/AAAAAAAAMWs/wPbJnYKewqY/s640/20120912_164010.jpg)

Thank's Antony!

Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on September 23, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
zvone,
excellent double portrait!  :)

The same boletus with another friend.

(http://cs302513.userapi.com/v302513879/2a4b/75iUGVVQ6MQ.jpg)

(http://cs302514.userapi.com/v302514879/241e/CjfbcBfzOL4.jpg)

(http://cs302514.userapi.com/v302514879/242d/LRuwDZOqX3o.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: zvone on September 23, 2012, 10:25:12 AM
zvone,
excellent double portrait!  :)

The same boletus with another friend.


Vau!

Thank's Olga!

Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on September 26, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
A lonely Coprinus comatus, The Shaggy Ink Cap, from the garden today.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: fredg on September 26, 2012, 04:22:32 PM
I appear to have a load of balls in the garden  ::)

Look what happened to my balls  :o

Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: zvone on September 27, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
Hi!


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TcCvAY0vhFo/UGSgqGtdjCI/AAAAAAAAMXk/oKfqnqK8ADg/s640/kapitalec.jpg)


Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Natalia on October 04, 2012, 09:49:02 AM
Fred, beautiful stars!

Ringing, which is huge! The leg was eaten by worms?: (


In our forest in October many interesting fungi

fungi_0688 - help determine the types of fungi
Phallus impudicus_0668- start
Phallus impudicus_0681 - green jelly eaten
Phallus impudicus_0682 - apex
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on October 05, 2012, 06:05:39 PM

fungi_0688 - help determine the types of fungi


Natalia, regarding this fungus I have searched and searched and cannot find anything like it. It has intrigued me and I would ask, if you ever do identify it, please post the details here. Thanks.



Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: Afloden on October 05, 2012, 06:17:01 PM
Looks like an LBM (little brown mushroom which has an analgous phrase in plants, dyc =damn yellow composite) with a secondary fungal infection fruiting on it.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on October 05, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
Looks like an LBM (little brown mushroom which has an analgous phrase in plants, dyc =damn yellow composite) with a secondary fungal infection fruiting on it.

I initially thought the same, but then I was informed that some relatives of the Genus Dactylaria have macro fruiting bodies with 'Drosera like sticky fibres'. But I haven't found anything else yet re this. This may well of pushed me up a 'blind alley'! ::)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: fredg on October 13, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
I appear to be cultivating a planterful of thse brown jobs.

Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on November 16, 2012, 04:36:14 PM
I would appreciate id's for any of the following.
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/029-6.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/027-6.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/021-11.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/015-11.jpg)
I have put the underside of the following as well.
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/008-15.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/009-13.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/031-3.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/032-3.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/035-4.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/038-3.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/047-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on November 16, 2012, 05:22:40 PM
...... and whether any of them would go well with a frying pan full of bacon and sausages! ;D

Class pictures Davey boy.
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: ronm on November 16, 2012, 05:30:53 PM
Super pictures Davey.  8) 8) Some are familiar but most are going to need some researching. All from today?

Number 2 is the Hare's foot Inkcap - Coprinus lagopus
Title: Re: Fungi 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on November 17, 2012, 10:03:32 AM
...... and whether any of them would go well with a frying pan full of bacon and sausages! ;D

Class pictures Davey boy.
David you know me soooooo well ;D
Super pictures Davey.  8) 8) Some are familiar but most are going to need some researching. All from today?

Number 2 is the Hare's foot Inkcap - Coprinus lagopus
Cheers Ron you are a star,it's not an ink cap i was familiar with.
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