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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Palustris on March 19, 2012, 10:27:23 AM
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Thought this looked rather nice. Pulsatilla grandis, from wild collected seed, bought at Pudsey a few years back. Grown by T. Whittaker (I think, the label is now very faded.). Odd though, last year was the first time it has ever set seed. Hopefully the babies will be this lovely lilac colour too.
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That is a very nice pulsatilla, Palustris 8)
If you get some excess seed I would be very glad to be one of the acceptors ;) ;D
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You will have to remember to ask when the seeds are ripe, my memory for who wants seeds is so awful. If it does set seed, then please do get n touch.
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Your Pulsatilla had a lovely colour.
My P. vulgaris is flowering too.
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Oh yes! Surely there never was a "bad" Pulsatilla. :D
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Two of my pulsatillas that I had sown in January 2011 bloomed for the first time this spring: the white one, last week, and the purple, in January. I lost my labels, so I am guessing when I say that the white flower is P. patens and the purple one is P. campanella.
edit: moved pictures to attachments rather than inline
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On Sunday I was in the Wachau (Austria) with my wife. Pulsatilla grandis and Pulsatilla pratensis ssp. nigricans have flourished. Fine weather and 21° degrees Celsius.
Karl
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A particularly nice white there. So far as I remember, P. campanella should be rather more pendant and the flower somewhat bell-shaped. May be wrong though.
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Hello Karl,
my heart beats doubling looking on the marvelous images :o 8) ;D
The variability of the flower shapes is interesting. Is it a permanent feature or triggered / influenced by growing conditions?
My pulsatillas are far behind in growth from those in the Wachau.
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Karl thank you for sharing these images, I am officially in love with P.grandis, one of my favourite spring flowers, our pulsitallas here are little hummocks of fur at the moment.
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Nice pictures Viola ;) I love your double form and nigricans too :D
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Nice Palsatillas especially grandiscand the black nigricans..thanks for showing :)
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Lovely pulsatilla photos!
A particularly nice white there. So far as I remember, P. campanella should be rather more pendant and the flower somewhat bell-shaped. May be wrong though.
I was thinking the same as Lesley about the suspected P. campanella...
P. patens is native here, and is normally mauve, as opposed to white. In the wild, it blooms with only the stem ruff of leaves showing, and the leaf stems emerge later, but I don't know what it might do in cultivation.
New growth is barely starting to emerge on P. vulgaris here, and the evergreen P. vernalis shows no buds yet.
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Beautiful pics, everyone. Lovely!
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I am jealous of the black Pulsatilla. Mine has yet to budge from its winter slumber. I am hoping it survived.
I'm not sure what is "wrong" with my P. campanella and patens. The prairie crocus is not actually pure white, but has a mauve-y base. Don't know if it's visible in this picture. As for the campanella, I think the flower's growth was slightly stunted after a battle with aphids. I've only sown campanella, patens, and pratensis subsp. nigricans, and neither is black, so I have a 50/50 chance of being right ;D
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I had been meaning for a few days to send these to cheer people up, the arrival of other Pulsatilla pictures encouraged me to get round to it. The plant is Pulsatilla rubra (even if it doesn't look like it!) The first picture is taken on the 24th February, and the second on the 15th March
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While enjoying the pulsatilla photos, I've been trying not to think too closely on those in our garden. Peter's picture tonight of those wonderful silky, hairy buds has finally made me face facts.... I fear that a lot of Pulsatillas in our garden have not survived.
This is odd because they had mostly taken the last two horrible winters in their stride.. and the one just passing hasn't been severe, so I wonder what has happened. Will investigate tomorrow to see if they are just "slow" :-\ :-X
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This Pulsatilla halleri ssp. slavica is about 12 years old, I raised it from seed collected by ZZ in the
Tatra Mountains and hope,that the plant is true to name. It is always the first flowering species
in my garden
Thanks to all the Pulsatilla freaks for your photos and comments, Karl's find of the double flower
is a real highlight, I have never seen such a miracle before.
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Rudi,
what a lovely P. halleri. I'm waiting mine to show the first buds too.
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Maggi,
Severe winters don't have a serious impact on Pulsatillas here. But from time to time they disappere for no certain reason (life span, may be). Last year I lost all P. slavica and parcially P.vulgaris gotlandica and alba becouse of the very hot and dry summer we had in 2010, which can't be the case for summers in Aberdeen
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Maggi,
The plant in the photo (and its brother) are way ahead of the rest of the Pulsatillas in the garden, (it always is); most of them are only just stirring in this very early season we are having; I have a few beautiful sky blue buds on plants flowering for the first time claiming to be Budapest Seedlings; I must get my camera onto them. The rest are hairy buds at best - and Pulsatilla vulgaris alba is only just moving. After all, the English name of Pasque flower says that they should be there for Easter.
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My P. grandis is the only one really open at present, though the various P. vulgaris are showing colour.
The first seedling from the lilac P. grandis has flowered and it is.......................purple. Rats!
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Hi!
Pulsatilla Grandis from My Garden:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EPzIc3WL7wg/T3dl6JMvyVI/AAAAAAAAFv8/zKv49q6ABQA/s640/IMG_9543.JPG)
Best Regards! zvone
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I've got a very exciting seedling
In 2009 I sowed open pollinated seeds from Pulsatilla pratensis subsp. bohemica. One is flowering now. The flower isnt black but purple just like P. vulgaris and it holds its head like the parent.
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I've got a very exciting seedling
In 2009 I sowed open pollinated seeds from Pulsatilla pratensis subsp. bohemica. One is flowering now. The flower isnt black but purple just like P. vulgaris and it holds its head like the parent.
Hi Mark!
Congratulate!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mEP1gMO0v-E/T3iM1_xTbdI/AAAAAAAAFxQ/6wjjpCjccSc/s640/IMG_9630.JPG)
MORE PICTURES: http://zvonem.blogspot.si/news/
Best Regards! zvone
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My Pulsatilla seedling is changing shape and the pedicel is extending
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Pulsatilla in a pink form, self seeded between P. vulgaris (or one of its forms, but purple flowered) and Pulsatilla rubra.
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Palustris,
Is that an unusual colour for Pulsatilla? I can't recall ever having seen such a lovely clean pink before? I've only ever seen white and purple in person, but that pink is far better tome than either of the "normal" colours. Or has that colour been inherited from P. rubra? Definitely a plant worth keeping. I can just imagine a drift of that in full flower. :ot
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There is a P. vulgaris called Eva Constance which I think is similar in colour and another 'Baron's Pink' which I have never seen.
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Well I've never seen either, and I like yours!! 8) Keep up the good work. ;D
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Eric, I think 'Eva Constance' is a bit deepr pink than yours. Yours is a most gorgeous "gentle" pink... and a darn nice plant too.
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I have dug out a lot of seedlings from round the plant and potted them up. If they flower this colour I will isolate and pollinate to see if I can get a true seeding strain. Obviously anything now is going to be open pollinated.
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That is a lovely colour - like the soft pink form of ambigua. They are extremely moreish plants!
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That is a lovely colour - like the soft pink form of ambigua. They are extremely moreish plants!
Exactly, Tim, I knew the colour reminded me of something..I was trying to remember the name....thanks!
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Nice pulsatilla images from all 8)
a few close ups...
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I've changed the name of the thread, folks.
Super pix, all.
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A lot of beautiful Pulsatillas!
Here's a picture of P lutescens flavescens from the botanical garden in Oslo today.
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Trond,
That is a beautiful pic. Such a clean yellow. A little bit of mountain sunshine!! ;D
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That pink is a lovely one Eric. Well worth growing any seedlings. We have a strain here of P. vulgaris called 'Pink Denim,' and happily it comes true from seed. It is a light strawberry colour.
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Pulsatilla slavica alba had a visitor today...
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Hoy,
realy very beautiful. 8) I tryed to grow P. flavescens (Pulsatilla patens subsp. flavescens ) repeated times but after germination seedlings did not survive winter.
Any recommendations available?
Luc,
very nice white P. slavica! 8)
The seedlings I have got from your seed are behind in growth - still in bud stage.
I'm exited to see them soon - the first time in full flower.
Here is my P. pratensis ssp. nigricans raised from seed.
Many thanks to Kathrine for the seed. ;) ;D
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Hoy,
realy very beautiful. 8) I tryed to grow P. flavescens (Pulsatilla patens subsp. flavescens ) repeated times but after germination seedlings did not survive winter.
Any recommendations available?
Sorry, Armin, can't help you with this particular one but I have just overwintered several other seedlings of different Pulsatillas outside this winter without cover. They seem to do very well now, all of them are producing new leaves.
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flavescens and slavica - Google here I come
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I have a couple of "Pulsatilla albana ssp albocyanea" seedex plants flowering for the first time. Small pure white flowers. Do think they will improve with age, this year or next. I would have thought any blue would have been obvious from the bud stage.
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I have a couple of "Pulsatilla albana ssp albocyanea" seedex plants flowering for the first time. Small pure white flowers. Do think they will improve with age, this year or next. I would have thought any blue would have been obvious from the bud stage.
I'd have thought the blue would be evident from an early age, too, Brian.
There is a photo on Kirsten Andersen and Lars Hansen's website which shows how blue it can be:
http://www.alpines.dk/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=photos&cid=1626&Itemid=26
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It was NARGS garden collected seed so could be a mistake or a cross I guess. At least I found out in 14 months from sowing, and did not grow it for many years before finding out it was not as labelled.
It is quite a good white, and might be a larger flower when more established :)
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Although I have several different, mostly in their young stages, "A Pulsatills is a Pulsatilla is a Pulsatilla" I thought (even if I got tongue-tied saying it!)
However, obviously there are many wonderful species to grow and play with. The little plants from Mark S's P. albana will flower this spring and your white slavica Luc is a real diamond. I have a very dark crimson which comes true, slightly pendant flowers and grown for years as P. montana. Does anyone know it?
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There is a P. vulgaris called Eva Constance which I think is similar in colour and another 'Baron's Pink' which I have never seen.
Jon Evans has a good photo of a plant of Pulsatilla vulgaris Barton's Pink from
Anne Vale at therecent AGS London Show .......
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//London+Show+/8161/?page=5
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Found one in the garden today, labelled P. Red Clock, sadly the flowers have gone over,but do not for the life of me remember either buying it or planting it.
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There were also some nice plants of 'Barton's Pink' for sale at the London Show, from Primrose Bank Nursery in Yorkshire. It is a fine soft pink but rather small and narrow petalled - presumably propagated from root cuttings (?), something I have never tried with pulsatillas.
Trond - that pale yellow form of patens (flavescens) is I think the most beautiful Pasque Flower I have yet seen, with that hint of blue on the reverse. Quite exquisite!
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Found one in the garden today, labelled P. Red Clock, sadly the flowers have gone over,but do not for the life of me remember either buying it or planting it.
That sounds like it should be 'Red Cloak', Eric.
Only the most diligent ( or geekish?!! ;)) gardener can remember every "accession to the collection", Eric.... don't feel bad for being normal - I reckon you are in a large company of similarly afflicted souls. :-[
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Other than P. vulgaris all my other Pulsatillas are cr@p this year
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Other than P. vulgaris all my other Pulsatillas are cr@p this year
If clicked on, Mark, that actually comes up as an email addresss to which an email can be sent. Wonder if it would get to you? ;D
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really? Are you using Windows?
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Lesley,
Interesting, it doesn't on my Firefox browser. :-\
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Yes, Windows and not the latest version by any means. I'll send one and see if it gets to you.
L
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Had an immediate message back saying "The email could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The recipient is cr@p." It all could be a bit insulting!
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It all could be a bit insulting!
;D ;D
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Other than P. vulgaris all my other Pulsatillas are cr@p this year
If clicked on, Mark, that actually comes up as an email addresss to which an email can be sent. Wonder if it would get to you? ;D
Doesn't show as a hyperlink to email on my browser - but in my notification email it is a live link
Sadly my Pulsatillas are all doing very poorly this year, and over the last couple of years several have been lost altogether. :'(
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Just counted up and there are over 30 clumps of Pulsatillas in the garden, mostly forms of P. vulgaris. The only one which I cannot find at all, not a label nor a hole where the plant might have been in P. pallens. I know I had it as I have a tray of seedlings growing on.
This is P. Red Cloak
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Now this one has me puzzled. It is labelled P. albana, but the pictures I saw the other night from Val Lee's lecture looked nothing like this, so a bit worried as to what it is. The backs of the petals are washed with purple/blue.
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Palustris,
any possibility it is a P. alpina? Your P. Red Cloak is nice. Does it always keeps the flower heads like little bells?
Today I can show a few seedlings.
The first image is my first and only seedling freely developed in my meadow! I'm quite proud of this tiny one as it germinated on heavy loam.
Then, P. slavica alba. Now 3 seedlings grown up to a little clump. Each set 1 flower. Thanks to Luc for the seed.
Finally, a dark blue vulgaris. I've raised it from wild collected seeds 5-6 years ago but it was always a very week grower and the few flowers appeared were not showy at all. I was about to throw to the bin. This year it pleases me. :)
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Palustris,
Is your Pulsatilla pale yellow? It looks very like a plant I have as Pulsatilla albana STAR067, which has pale yellow flowers with purple/blue backs. The leaves are very close to the plant I have as P. albana lutea, but that has brighter yellow flowers
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Peter. Yes I suppose one could describe it as very very pale yellow. I have seen the P albana lutea on the show bench, but never managed to get a plant for myself.
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The foliage is right for your albana Palustris, a softish, compact ferny look, not so open as vulgaris. Albana varies a lot in colouring from (maybe) white through pale to quite rich yellows but the bluish colour on the backs of the petals is consistent in my experience. P. albana (as) 'Lutea' is a good strong yellow.
I don't think yours is alpina whose foliage is larger and quite open.
'Red Cloak' comes true from seed if grown alone. I find the reds are always first to sell in a group of mixed colours, even before the soft pinks, which surprises me.
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Thanks. A relief to know I got one right ::).
Does surrounded by self sown Allium karataviense and Camassia cuisickii count as being grown alone? That's why I missed most of the flowering, it is well hidden by other foliage.
Strange things, the buying public, one year I sent a mass of in flower P. vulgaris to a charity plant sale and sold none, the next year, same sale, same date, everything and sold out.
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Pulsatilla sukaczevii
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Drool!
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Pulsatilla sukaczevii
:o :o Wonderful Jan!
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Thank you Wim, in summer the seeds. ;D
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Thank you Wim, in summer the seeds. ;D
;) I'll remember!
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Palustris,
Then, P. slavica alba. Now 3 seedlings grown up to a little clump. Each set 1 flower. Thanks to Luc for the seed.
Glad to see things worked out Armin ! :D
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Pulsatilla sukaczevii
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..... and a drool from me too!
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Two real beauties there, though the white is difficult to see as a Pulsatilla. Is a picture from another angle possible please?
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Here is a profile of Pulsatilla sukaczevii
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Will the plant in your 'profile' photograph be as yellow as the one in the prior shot, or is there that much variation? (Love the profile picture!)
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Not your usual by any means. :D
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Last summer I shoot most of my Pulsatillas leaves. Is it interesting for someone to post them here?
My favorite. I make tens images every year and can not stop. :) Pulsatilla flavescens.
(http://cs5687.userapi.com/v5687879/8c2/t0AWcGIQQno.jpg)
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Olga,
it is one of my favourites too. Very lovely. 8) :D
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Lovely picture again Olga. :) Please keep posting. ;D
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Yes, I am sure foliage photos would be of interest... and useful too.
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I think the leaves on Pulsatillas are as much part of the garden scene as any plant. You could grow them for their foliage alone.
At last this one is flowering. Hope it sets viable seed this year.
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I think the leaves on Pulsatillas are as much part of the garden scene as any plant. You could grow them for their foliage alone.
At last this one is flowering. Hope it sets viable seed this year.
I was thinking exactly the same thing as I viewed the lovely foliage of helleborus, posted by Thomas Seiler in another thread.... I was transferring that thought to my paeonias, where all I often get is foliage..... :-X :'(
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Pulsatilla campanella from Vojtech Holubec seeds
(http://cs5687.userapi.com/v5687879/8e8/X76jNSD2loc.jpg)
Pulsatilla campanella wild collected seeds 2004
(http://cs301108.userapi.com/v301108879/8b8/eUCB6RS8OeM.jpg)
Foliage from left to right. P. campanella violet, my P. campanella (wild collected) and P. albana.
(http://cs5687.userapi.com/v5687879/8f0/kQ9F9o78Ex4.jpg)
As for me first and second are the same. Only petiol of the yellowish one is hairy.
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Last summer I shoot most of my Pulsatillas leaves. Is it interesting for someone to post them here?
My favorite. I make tens images every year and can not stop. :) Pulsatilla flavescens.
(http://cs5687.userapi.com/v5687879/8c2/t0AWcGIQQno.jpg)
Easy to see why :)
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A lovely pulsatilla just opening in my garden ...
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No idea what this little beauty is.
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What a little beauty, Helen. Very impressed.
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I can't compete with all your gems, and my sole Pulsatilla here at my summerhouse is finished for the season too!
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No idea what this little beauty is.
That's what I would have expected the true P. campanella to look like, but as I've said before, I've never seen the actual plant, only occasional pictures. ???
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That's what I would have expected the true P. campanella to look like, but as I've said before, I've never seen the actual plant, only occasional pictures. ???
Lesley, I think it came from seeds labelled Pulsatilla pratensis subsp. nigricans, I must have planted two tiny seedlings together as the flowers behind this one are very dark.
I assumed the pale one was some sort of hybrid.
I haven't been able to get my hands on any P. campanella seed as yet.
Whatever it is, the flower is very cute. The entire consists of a couple of leaves a stem with the flower.
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Helen, your Pulsatilla is a real gem no matter the name.
Two seedlings of P. vulgaris Perlen Glocke
(http://cs10774.userapi.com/v10774879/86a/w4rV3h2cwnc.jpg)
(http://cs10774.userapi.com/v10774879/862/b45iy6Tr0YU.jpg)
The second one has got a blood of Papageno. :)
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So, it sounds like the conclusion is that all the various forms shown (long sepals and purple; short sepals and yellowish) are accepted as being P. campanella? Works for me, if so. :)
(Perhaps the long-sepalled purple one was the one selected for introduction, being much showier than the yellowish, short-sepaled form?)
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Pulsatilla integrifolia flowering for the first time in my garden
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Pulsatilla integrifolia flowering for the first time in my garden
also sometimes known as Miyakea integrifolia... see more about this lovely plant in these IRG issues :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Aug211313941904International_Rock_Gardener_Issue_2_February_2010.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Aug211313941904International_Rock_Gardener_Issue_2_February_2010.pdf)
and a piece by Susann Nilsson http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Dec261293381708IRG_12_December.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Dec261293381708IRG_12_December.pdf)
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Utterly gorgeous species.
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Oh that is nice Magnar, and no doubts about ID with foliage like that. :)
Your pink single (or rather entire petalled) form is very lovely Olga. Not so keen on the shaggy one though. ???
Helen I haven't P. nigricans as such now but when I did it was more or less like an ordinary vulgaris but very black though others I've seen are closer to purple. I suspect a lot are around under doubtful names. I have had for years, P. montana, again very vulgaris-like but a smaller flower, not opening widely and always from many generations of my own seed, rich deep burgundy-red. No idea how true this is to P. montana. ::)
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Magnar, that is a real beauty.
Olga, the pink is very nice, pink seems to be hard to come by.
Lesley, do you have pics of your P. montana?
It sounds delightful.
The following pics are of what I got from Pulsatilla pratensis subsp. nigricans seeds.
Do you think they might actually be P. campanella?
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I don't have a recent one Helen, only an old pre-digital. It has been badly neglected recently, in a dried out trough. I have some more young ones coming on so hopefully decent pics either in the spring or next year.
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If anyone going to Pontefract wants some seeds of my P. grandis (lilac flowered one) then please let me know and I will bring some fresh ones with me. Sorry not allowed to send them by post.