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Seedy Subjects! => Grow From Seed => Topic started by: maggiepie on March 07, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
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Checking my baggies a few days ago, I found this in a baggie with Clematis texensis seed.
I have no idea what it is, thought it might be a frit until I pulled the seedcase off today. ??? ??? ???
Here is a pic of the seedcase and a pic of the seedling.
I am surprised I didn't notice a ringin with the seeds when bagging them.
Any help appreciated.
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The seed case rings a bell Helen but it has slipped away for now. Obviously not a bulb, with two cotyledons. Otherwise, wait and see. :)
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Could it be Glaucidium palmatum?
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Link to page re seed of Glaucidium palmatum ( sorry, this is not yet one of those in our SRGC Seed to Scale project. :'( )
http://www.alpine-plants-jp.com/himitunohanazono_2/siraneaoi_himitu_1.htm
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Could it be Glaucidium palmatum?
Wow, Roma, you are fantastic. :)
Maggi, so are you!!
Thanks very much.
So the texensis seed donor is out one Glaucidium Palmatum, what a lovely surprise for me.
Hope it's a white one, hope I can keep it alive and hope I live long enough to see it flower...... ;D
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Hadn't a clue first time I looked but after seeing Lesley's post something clicked.
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Yes, I'm sure you're right Roma. Nice accident. :)
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Once again, it just goes to show how fabulous the forum is.
Or should that be forumists, hmmmmmmm both I think!!
;D ;D ;D
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Could it be Glaucidium palmatum?
Wow, Roma, you are fantastic. :)
Maggi, so are you!!
Thanks very much.
So the texensis seed donor is out one Glaucidium Palmatum, what a lovely surprise for me.
Hope it's a white one, hope I can keep it alive and hope I live long enough to see it flower...... ;D
While waiting you can borrow this:
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Thanks Trond, what a beauty it is.
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I am quite sure it is glaucidium
Göte
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Am starting to wonder if the mystery seedling actually is Glaucidium palmatum. ???
Do seedlings look like this?
( hope they do)
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The later, true leaves don't look right Helen.
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The later, true leaves don't look right Helen.
Lesley, that's what I thought . ??? ???
Have no idea what it is but it seems to be fairly healthy.
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I would say Asclepias or something related.
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The shoot reminds me of a Penstemon, but I've never grown them from seed so I have no idea whether it is right for a seedling? Looks perhaps a little too fleshy?
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Certainly not a penstemon seed, though.
It does look like it could be an asclepias seed with the silky pappus removed, and the opposite-leaved seedling would make sense...
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You need to go back to the first post Paul and look at the seed case, then at the subsequent pics in Maggi's link. I don't know asclepias from seed so can't give any opinion. It's not a glaucidium but it SHOULD be a glaucidium. :D
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Thanks to all for your input.
Hopefully I can grow the plant to maturity.
Would hate to have it croak and never know what it was I killed. :o
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Are you sure this is what came from the seed you showed. Glaucidium do not germinate the first spring.
Göte
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Are you sure this is what came from the seed you showed. Glaucidium do not germinate the first spring.
Göte
Yes, quite sure.
It was already potted and labelled when I slipped the seedcase off and took the pics.
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Ulla H sent me seed of both purple and white Glaucidium a while back, it would have been seed from the season before last, in the north. The purple germinated within a month! but no sign yet of the white yet. I'm hoping this winter/spring will bring some along.
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Lesley,
Obviously I did something wrong with my seed from the same source (I think, from memory). No luck on any counts. ::) Been a crazy couple of years weather-wise, so could be the reason for it.
So what should Penstemon seed look like? I've not grown Penstemon from seed as I said, nor thought about what the seed would look like. Now that I think about it I'd imagine small black shiny or something like that? I've not thought about it before.
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So what should Penstemon seed look like? I've not grown Penstemon from seed as I said, nor thought about what the seed would look like. Now that I think about it I'd imagine small black shiny or something like that? I've not thought about it before.
No, generally matte brownish/greyish as opposed to black and shiny, and a range of sizes from very small to quite large... I believe Maggi has posted photos of various penstemon seeds in the Seeds forum.
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That is correct, Lori, there are photos in this thread :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4426.0
of the following Penstemon seeds :
Penstemon rattanii
Penstemon caesius
Penstemon caespitosus var. caespitosus
Penstemon cardwellii
Penstemon sp. PCH2
Penstemon abietinus
Penstemon ambiguus
Penstemon compactus
Penstemon cyananthus
Penstemon davidsonii var. menziesii
Penstemon fruticosus
Penstemon grandiflorus
Penstemon leonensis
Penstemon linarioides
Penstemon patens
Penstemon pinifolius
Penstemon pseudospectabilis
Penstemon rupicola
Penstemon scapoides
Penstemon sepalulus
Penstemon superbus
Penstemon venustus
Penstemon centranthifolius
Penstemon hirsutus pygmaeus
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The seed picture I posted a while ago of what was supposed to be Colchicum luteum, is now showing - no, that's not right.
The seedlings IN the picture I posted a while ago of what were supposed to be Colch luteum, are beginning to look suspiciously like Impatiens glandulifera. The double cotyledons are each about 1cm across and developing a small notch at the apex though they are clean green and I would have expected some reddish colouring even so young. The second, true leaves are just starting so will do another pic in a few days.
Chris Chadwell was quite upset and very concerned when I emailed him, certainly no question of denying a mistake or anything like that and very anxious to put things right so far and as soon as possible. His suggestion was that two batches of seed, these AND the colchicum were put in the same envelope seems to me very likely as all of these have apparently germinated - nothing new for 10 days or so, while many more were sown than the 50 that have appeared, probably a couple of hundred. I'm hopeful that the colchicum will still come though in due course.
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Well here is a picture of the above seedlings at present. I'm still no closer to identifying them. Against their being the Impatiens I wondered about, is the colour which I would have expected to have a little red somewhere. These are bright lime green and are out in all weathers so not un-naturally pale.
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I also wonder if someone might know what these might be. For some reason I thought they were a camellia, but not sure. There are some teeth at the base of the newest leaves which doesn't seem to be camellia-like.