Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: Graham Catlow on March 01, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
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Thought I would start this years thread as things seem to be happening and talked about in other threads.
Although nothing is happening with mine. I was a little worried that something was wrong - especiallly as Angie in Aberdeen has some coming through.
I went for a little search earlier and all seem ok but still below ground or below the surface in their pots.
I think I am happy for them to stay there for another week or two just in case the weather turns wintery again.
It seems many of you either have yours in cold frames or frost free greenhouses but I leave mine outdoors in a sheltered spot. I will see how well they have done this year and perhaps change my routine next winter.
In the garden - formosanum, calceolus, reginae, ventricosum, 'Giselle'.
In pots - guttatum, guttatum 'yatabeanum', smithii, macranthos, tibeticum, plectrochylum, and wardii.
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Graham,
as today seemed to be the first day of spring - 15 degrees and hazy sun all day, I checked the pots that have spent the winter in the unheated garage.
The only one close to showing is 'Sunny' and that will be through in maybe a couple of days.
Not long now!
David
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Hello everybody
Here in France for the moment before it is spring time,but beware! the weather is back for the next few days.
There in about 10 days we had a cold spell,to - 16°C ,many palnts have suuered.
I look at my Cyp. Reginae ,by removing a little soil ,the buds are present but slightly dark , I hope he has not suffered from the cold ?
Patience and we will see !
Cordially
Christian
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Graham I know Anthony Darby had his Cypripediums outside in all weathers. I would have prefered not to see any of mine above the soil. It was a cold day today here is Aberdeen, our spring like weather has gone away for the moment. Hopefully this will hold them back.
I am terrible I keep having a poke about the soil to see if the others are all right. I have no patience.
Really looking forward to the next few months. My South African bulbs are starting to come to an end so now I can focus on my Cyps.
I hope all will be well.
Angie :)
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Hi,
my outdoor cyps are just showing their tips. I have put slug pellets around them as they seem to be the first fresh food on the table for molluscs. :(
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Thanks maren ;)..........you brought me on a good idea with the slug pellets.
Some of the cyp tips are above the ground . imagine that these buds of macranthos will be in flower ,in about 2 months. .Every year around the end of april
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Very nice sights Sarmienta ;)
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fargesii
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Thanks maren ;)..........you brought me on a good idea with the slug pellets.
Some of the cyp tips are above the ground . imagine that these buds of macranthos will be in flower ,in about 2 months. .Every year around the end of april
Really nice picture. I grow mine in pots just a bit afraid to try them in my garden. Are you in the UK.
Maren, thanks I must remember and use some slug pellets this year.
Angie :)
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fargesii
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6272/fargesii5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/fargesii5.jpg/)
Hakone
Nice healthy looking plant. If this is a new plant for you I've grown quite a few in the past and would really recommend putting some pine needles all around the plant to keep the leaves away from the top of your mix as they are prone to easily rotting off if sitting on a damp surface. Also if you are lucky enough to get a flower bud, do not water from above as the leaves act as a funnel and the water gets trapped in the center causing the stem of the bud to rot and abort its flower.
Sorry if you know this already but just thought it worth mentioning as it's a real stunner when in flower but very easy to abort.
Regards
David
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I also put some (hard) treefern on top of the vulnerable species like C margaritaceum,but you could also use some material from a broom ;) . :-[ Angie.......... I'm not in the UK ,i live in Holland,were theyuse to grow Cyps in wooden shoes ;D
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Hi David,
thank you very much
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I also put some (hard) treefern on top of the vulnerable species like C margaritaceum,but you could also use some material from a broom ;) . :-[ Angie.......... I'm not in the UK ,i live in Holland,were theyuse to grow Cyps in wooden shoes ;D
Holland isn't to far away. Just nice to know where others are successfully growing these Cyps. I am new to them and try and find out what others do. I think mine should do well in our cold climate ;D Well I hope so anyway.
Angie :)
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David, I have just bought Cypripedium fargesii and got some advice from Graham Catlow already. One thing I was wandering because this one is more tricky should I keep it somewhere else than my cold frame.
Angie :)
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Angie
They are not easy to grow and this is partly due to the quality of the rhizome you will have received. I tried several locations and found they grew best covered at the top to keep the rain off but need airflow from the sides. Also found Cyp lichiangense easier than Cyp fargesii. Leaves can be scorched easily by the sun and partial shading is recommended at all times. Others might have more success using different methods, I can only say what worked for me.
Pic below is lichiangense
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David, your C. lichiangense group is mouth (eye) watering.
Your point about scorching is well made. I have managed to get leaf scorch after 4 o'clock in the afternoon, and once the leaf is scorched, the rest of the leaf will rot and the plant has nothing left to live for. :'(
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David, the Cyp,lichiangense pictures are gorgeous. Thanks very much for posting them. I have tried to get this one but had no luck so I just went for Cyp,fargesii instead. Now thinking to myself if the expert finds it difficult what chance have I ::). I will give it a try and if I don't succeed I will stick with the easier cyps. I just like these little fellows, so cute.
If anyone knows of a supplier I would like to hear please.
Angie :)
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lichiangense
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bardolphianum
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Angie
What experts? It's all trial and very much error. You may have a better clone and find conditions that others have not. As Maren has said above, if the leaves die away then nine times of ten so does the rest of the plant because usually the rhizome is not in A1 health in the first place and just gives up. These are not easy Cyps and even the so called experts will have more die than survive over a length of time. Hence the reason they are not grown on a commercial scale and not seen often in cultivation. Apart from what I have in flasks the rest died in the freeze of November 2010. If they had been in the ground they may have done better with some protection but all were turned to mulch in pots. Other Cyps like tibeticum, flavum, macranthos were in frozen solid pots and did not suffer at all. So also note they are not as hardy as others. A good indication of how healthy the plant is in leaf is by the spots. If there are not that many on the leaves and they are faint it indicates the plant is stressed. A healthy plant will be covered in spots and show good deep colour.
Hakone
Another healthy looking couple of Cyps. Cyp bardolphianum is one I never grew successfully and never flowered. The only one that did flower under this name turned out to be micranthum. Look forward to seeing it in flower and looking at the leaves it could be the yellow one as the darker bardolphianum usually have darker leaves with reddish leaf tips.
Did not mind Cyp micranthum though as it’s a funny little thing. See picture below.
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Angie -good luck with these spotted leaf types. They really test the skills of even the most experienced growers. I suspect that much depends to a large extent on the quality of the plants that you start with.
If they are cheap imports then the chance of success is minimal.
On another note -the first hybrid noses are just poking through in their pots.
Sunny and Inge, both fasciolatum hybrids.Time to get the outside,
Regards,
David
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That C. micranthum is severely missing Rod Hull :o :o :o :o, ( apologies to overseas members and members below the age of 40 ;D ;D)
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I think I need to stop opening up my computer. Isn't that Cyp micranthum to die for. When the picture is blown up you see all the hairs, brilliant picture. I think you could call yourself an expert, you are just being a little modest :).
So if my Cyp fargesii dies its because it wasn't a good clone ::) Because of the advice I get on the forum my plant will stand a better chance of survival. I will keep you informed of my success or failure.
Tonight we might get a bit of frost so I will put a bit of fleece over the plants just to be safe.
Angie :)
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That C. micranthum is severely missing Rod Hull :o :o :o :o, ( apologies to overseas members and members below the age of 40 ;D ;D)
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Angie
Some clones are easier than others and it's usually the stronger ones that make it in to general cultivation. The main problem with imported (not saying yours is an import) Cyps in general but especially spotted ones is the lack of good roots. Any with snapped off ends will without doubt die off as they will not repair themselves and unless the plant can produce more quickly enough will certainly die within the first year or maybe two. Fingers are crossed for you.
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Oh you are joking!!! :o :o :o. LOL.
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isn't it amazing 8). I hope I have bought my plant from a reliable source. Not sure if I am allowed to say where I bought my Cyp fargesii from. It is from a UK supplier so I hope it hasn't been taken from the wild. I understand now how they aren't so easy available. I hate losing plants and always try my best. I think I will soon find out how difficult they are to grow.
You will just have to keep posting your pictures for us folks that long to be able to have something as special as your Cyp,micranthum.
My fingers and toes are crossed ;D
Angie :)
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Cypripedium shanxiense
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very nice
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Nice pictures. 8) I finished sorting mine all out today. Now all I have to do is wait for them to grow and flower.
Angie :)
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Very nice indeed. Thats the first time I've ever seen one in flower. :)
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Which one do you mean please Slug?
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The last picture by Hakone, Cyp bardolphianum. First time I have seen the Cyp in cultivation.
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thank you very much Slug Killer,
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4388/bardolphianumgruppe.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/bardolphianumgruppe.jpg/)
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Brillant 8), it looks really tiny.
Angie :)
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I checked some of my Cyp clumps in the garden. Here are some pictures of the bigger clumps. I gently remove the top soil to show the noses.
The first one is the hybrid Sebastian. In the spring 2010 it had only one bud (flowering) and look how it looks now after just two growth cycles in the garden. Sebastian is not one of the easiest hybrids though. I lost two smaller ones this winter. Two others don't show much growth (still no flowering bud) and three others are beginning to bulk. The one showed here is a good doer for me.
The second one is x andrewsii. Acquired last fall with 7 buds ( I counted them all before planting) and it decided to put three extra (non flowering) buds up this fall/winter. I must have overlooked them before planting, but it looks promising.
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Beautiful flower in sight !
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Cypripedium plectrochilum
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Very pretty and difficult to photograph being so small. I lost a bowl full of these when we had very cold weather in November 2010, everyone of them died :'(
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While we're on this subject, is it C. plectrochilon or C. pletrochilum?
The references to both are about 50/50.
This one got through the winter 2010/11 nicely.
This year 3 shoots have emerged ;D
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While we're on this subject, is it C. plectrochilon or C. pletrochilum?
The references to both are about 50/50.
Cypripedium plectrochilum Franch. - says the Kew Plantlist.
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Cypripedium plectrochilum Franch. - says the Kew Plantlist.
Woo Hoo I have it labelled correctly :D
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While we're on this subject, is it C. plectrochilon or C. pletrochilum?
The references to both are about 50/50.
Cypripedium plectrochilum Franch. - says the Kew Plantlist.
thank you very much.
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cypripedium plectrochilum
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And a wonderful little plant it is too ;D
A plectrochilum by any other name would look as sweet :D
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Looks like some sort of cartoon character with two bulbous eyes.
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Desperate Dan... it's got the hat and the chin.... bit off in scale though! :D
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I always think they look like the seven dwarfs (or is it dwarves?). Here is a picture given to me by a friend.
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beautiful mottle leaf
fargesii
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lichiangense
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margaritaceum
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Looks like some sort of cartoon character with two bulbous eyes.
:o I see something else, but it is a bit naughty to say it on this forum ;D
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:o I see something else, but it is a bit naughty to say it on this forum ;D
I know exactly what you mean.
Santa's beard and moustache ;D
It's not that naughty 8)
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:o I see something else, but it is a bit naughty to say it on this forum ;D
I know exactly what you mean.
Santa's beard and moustache ;D
It's not that naughty 8)
LOL :D
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Fred, John, behave yourselves.... I have sent you an email. :-X
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Fred, John, behave yourselves.... I have sent you an email. :-X
ROFLMAO
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sichuanense
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Hello ,
This picture is CYPRIPEDIUM 'Emile'
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This is cyp Pixi (calceolus x tibeticum) which first opened about 10 days ago. This cross was originally registered by Peter Corkhill in 2002. This particular clone is from a German grower. For some reason three plants I had decided to start growing in mid February. The rest of the batch have only just started to grow?
Jeff
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Nice plants Jeff.
What height are they?
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Very nice Jeff, something for me to look forward to :)
Angie :)
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Did I mention the need for control of herbivores around cypripediums? see what happened here. Something chewed the top off these cypripediums as they emerged. Fortunately the diner moved away so the plants were able to develop. They'll look awful this season but will be OK next year. When they've finished flowering I'll put them into one of my many anti-rabbit cages - the cypripediums are inside, the rabbits outside.
I use bird friendly slug pellets all through the growing season anyway to minimise damage. These two were the only ones damaged out of several hundred. Not too bad.
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Horror ,woe !
I just found my CYPRIPEDIUM 'Emile' in a sorry state , pouriture at the base.
But grow in a very draining substrate (3 parts pozzolana to 1 part loam)
Set out in the frost , the morning sun !
Please you can explain to me what is next ?
Do you think the strain is delayed ?
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I need some advice on a potting mix for C macranthos,I've grown them in a perlite/sandy with 10% bark fines and recently added seramis but the mix seems to dry out too fast and seems to repel the water.The growth is not vigorou, they get 1/4 strengh inorganic ferts..any ideas to improve the water holding capacity?
Also can cyps handle more organics to a mix or use a loam?
And with organics in a potting mix would fertilizing be detrimental to cyps or benificial?
I've had these for 7 yrs from flask and still no flowers..can somebody help
Cheers
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But grow in a very draining substrate (3 parts pozzolana to 1 part loam)
That mixture looks to be very wet to me and not very free draining.
I had to look pozzolana up on the internet - it comes up as a type of volcanic cement used by the Romans :o. It seems to break down to a sandy material, so if you are using it as a substiute for pumice, I don't think that it would work. The pictures seem to show rot at the neck of the plant, frost would not help either (I brought all my Cypripediums back into the greenhouse last week because frost was forecast).
Sorry to bring bad news, but I would repot the rhizome in something (anything) that will drain more freely, dust with sulphur powder as an anti-fungal agent and hope something survives. :-\
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I need some advice on a potting mix for C macranthos,I've grown them in a perlite/sandy with 10% bark fines and recently added seramis but the mix seems to dry out too fast and seems to repel the water.The growth is not vigorou, they get 1/4 strengh inorganic ferts..any ideas to improve the water holding capacity?
Also can cyps handle more organics to a mix or use a loam?
And with organics in a potting mix would fertilizing be detrimental to cyps or benificial?
I've had these for 7 yrs from flask and still no flowers..can somebody help
Stephen,
If it were me, I wouldn't bother with the sand, just use perlite & seramis, and increase the organic content to 30% - I use leafmould. Having said that, I also grow my Cyps in plastic pots, water twice a day for ten minutes during the summer (it's on an automatic system), and aim to feed with inorganic fertilizer (1/4-1/2 strength) ever 2-3 weeks. If you use this high an organic content, the plants need repotting every year as the organic component compacts down annually and makes the mixture too water-retentive. If you are not using large perlite (I'm using 3-5mm pumice insread), perhaps bark of a similar size would open up the mixture to a similar degree)
7 years doesn't sound too bad for deflasked seedlings, although I'm only 3 years into the process with some farreri x reginae hybrids (so far, so good). I was expecting to wait another 3-4 years to see what the flowers looked like. I've been increasing the organic (leafmould) content annually, up to about 20%, as i found that if the mixture was too water retentive, the seedlings tended to rot. (I lost all of my first two batches that way)
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Stephen,
sorry to hear of your problems with macranthos,
but I'd be very careful with adding any more organics to the medium.
I've heard some horror stories concerning macranthos and organics.
You probably need to talk to Jeff H. about this, he has plenty of experience with this species.
I grow mine in pretty much 100% super coarse perlite in big pots and they do OK and increase gently,
but my climate is probably quite a bit cooler than yours,
Regards,
David
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I think macranthos is not a difficult one, I use 1part of regular garden soil.and 1 part bimskies (pumice )added with some loam pellets.
In spring ,i give some leafmould on top as a fertilizer.
Last year (Autumn ) i had split my clump, and now i see there are less flowerbuds!
Still they are very soon this year ,even C calceolus,in which i can feel allready an flower bud
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Christian,
I'm sorry to see what's happened to your C. Emil. I can only agree with previous writers: the compost looks too wet. Now if that pot froze and then rapidly defrosted with the warmth of the morning sun, then the root area would have suffered.
What to suggest next: plant it in a mineral substrate and stand the pot in a north facing position. But I don't hold out much hope. Sorry.
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Hi Peter and Sarmienta, thanks for the info.having to water twice a day would be a too much work.adding organics seems to be the way to increase water holding capacity it's a gamble I thought seramis would do that some people hate the stuff and some think it's the best thing since sliced bread!Sarmienta adding garden soil or loam would be all new to me and i can only think it would hold water better,do you sink your pots in the garden? Mine are sunken in gravel which are in foam boxes.
Anyone else with good reports with using loam based mixes? Or am I better off to plant some in the garden?
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Hi,
mine grow in pure Seramis or, lately, Seramis mixed with pumice (3-5mm), 1:1, because it's cheaper. Both mixtures do extremely well and I have no winter losses.
But, as we all know, substrate on its own is no guarantee of success. I try to look at this from the plant's point of view. What does it require? Moisture but no extremes of wet or dry. To maintain this one has to take certain measures:
In the summer, water plants when they need it, no more and no less.
When do they need it? once a day, twice a day, every Thursday? No, they need to be watered when the compost begins to dry out. This depends on many factors: temperature, growth rate, size of pot (the bigger the pot, the more moisture it will hold), type of substrate, position (exposure to sun or wind) etc.
How do I know when the compost is drying out? By lifting up the pot. If it's heavy, it's wet and does not need water. If it's light, it needs water. If you have a bank of 50 pots, you don't need to lift them all up. If you treat them all the same, they should be in pretty much the same condition. A little sampling will confirm this.
In the winter, protect from excessive wet. To do this, a sharp draining compost is helpful. In addition, put some kind of protection from rain over the top. This can be a cloche or even a sheet of glass or plastic.
I have found over the years that one gains a lot of understanding by simply observing one's plants, the more one looks the more one sees. :) :) :)
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But, as we all know, substrate on its own is no guarantee of success. I try to look at this from the plant's point of view. What does it require? Moisture but no extremes of wet or dry. To maintain this one has to take certain measures:
In the summer, water plants when they need it, no more and no less.
When do they need it? once a day, twice a day, every Thursday? No, they need to be watered when the compost begins to dry out. This depends on many factors: temperature, growth rate, size of pot (the bigger the pot, the more moisture it will hold), type of substrate, position (exposure to sun or wind) etc.
How do I know when the compost is drying out? By lifting up the pot. If it's heavy, it's wet and does not need water. If it's light, it needs water. If you have a bank of 50 pots, you don't need to lift them all up. If you treat them all the same, they should be in pretty much the same condition. A little sampling will confirm this.
In the winter, protect from excessive wet. To do this, a sharp draining compost is helpful. In addition, put some kind of protection from rain over the top. This can be a cloche or even a sheet of glass or plastic.
I have found over the years that one gains a lot of understanding by simply observing one's plants, the more one looks the more one sees. :) :) :)
Sensible advice for any plants, Maren and a good philosophy... more can be learned by simple observation than people generally seem to realise.
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The debate on cypripedium mixes will go on for ever. When I started there was limited information available so I have been through the loam/sand/organic mix (not for north Lancashire); then onto a Seramis based compost which did not work for me at all and I found severe root damage by year two. Fortunately, I visited Peter Corkhill about five years ago and changed over to a mix of pumice, coarse perlite, cornish grit and about 15% composted bark/leafmold. This has worked reasonably well although I think there are certain species that want little in the way of organics.
The effect of one mix on different species is clearly seen in the Dutch plants now on offer. Parville is c parviflorum parviflorum and I have found a number of plant with limited root systems whilst Pueblo is parviflorum pubescens which loves the sand/organic mix. When this mix gets wet it holds a lot of moisture and has limited aeration.
C macranthos I have never found easy up here. If I get any more stock I think I will use a mix with no more than 10% organic. The big problem is in the summer when the pots are too warm and regular misting makes the compost too wet. It most certainly does not grow in a Lancashire garden as I have a customer with 40 plus in the garden and has lost macranthos three times.
A key issue is also winter temperature. 2011 temperatures of minus 18 were great. I had 250 c reginae in plastic bags in a polystyrene box for three months and they all flowered. As Peter indicated when they start to grow frost is a different matter. Recent frost winds browned the newly emerging flower buds of Lady Dorine. I should have known better as it is fasciolatum x formosanum.
Looking at the Emil photo reminds me of my brilliant idea two years ago of topping the pots with course bark so they looked better on the sales table. Because my automatic watering system was set to water every 6 hours for 2 minutes the bark got wet and suddenly I found stems falling over. If only the bud has rotted at the neck then the rhizome may well develop new buds which will take it through to next year.
Heat is certainly the killer. I look at some old photos of pots with 30/40 flowers at the Harrogate Spring show a few years back. spring was late so they were put into my conservatory for the last week to ensure I had sufficient plants for my display. I learnt two things, forced flowers are lighter in colour and the whole process was so stressful that the following year my 10 ltr pot fulls would fit into a two ltr pot as the summer regrowth of the rhizome and roots did not happen.
I hope my ramblings have given food for thought.
Jeff
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Jeff
being just down the road from you this is very helpful. I use a mix of 90% seramis and 10% bark compost but still have a problem with excess water. It has rained for the last 24 hours and is still pouring down as I type.
I find the organic stuff in the mix rises to the top of the pot over the year and forms a wet layer against the crowns. Annual re-potting is essential and I do this at the same time as Peter when they are just into growth.
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Tony,
I find that repotting generally checks cyp growth and results in smaller growths for at least a year, sometimes two.
What is your view?
Maybe repotting at the start of growth is less of a problem than late October when I usually do mine.
I find that with 90% super coarse perlite plus 10% bark mix I can leave them for several years before repotting.
Some plants have gone 5 years.
It is especially beneficial for young seedlings,
Regards,
David
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Jeff your rambling on as you call it is very informative. As I am new to keeping Cypripediums I like hearing what works for others. I think I have mine in to much loam so when I pot up I will change the mixture. I shall source some Coarse perlite as trying to get the right size of pumice isn't easy.
I hope that mine survive and bulk up.
Angie :)
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Maren yes I do observe and sometimes I look too much for the perfect mix and there are so many variables, temps, organic or not and how much water(which i think i dont do enough of) but one observation I did notice that early spring watering is soooo beneficial.we had a dry spring but a very wet summer and most of my cyps went dormant early but c kentuckiensis, formosanum and reginae stayed in leaf as we recieved rain for 2 months in summer and it was a cool summer. I grow some of my cyps sunken in foam boxes with gravel to keep roots cool and some on the ground, these cyps had their roots growing out of thier pots and growing through the humus layer so it makes me think that a top dress of humus on top would be benificial, some growers recommend this or top with coco fibre, Im sure Peter corkhill mentions this with a sand/perlite 10% bark mix for Asian sp.American sp prefer growing in the sand \bark mixes.
Angie your hybrids being more hardy will grow in a more organic mix as long as its free draining.Are these not Anthony's cyps and what ever his was doing you should keep doing but I think his reliable rainfall worked for his mix which was very free draining for me. It's the species that are more fussy and we all hope for more bulking up and more flowers.
Svante a cyp nursery grower in Sweden, breeds and grows cyps from the lab to the garden swears by growing in 100% soil from his local woodland in pots with great success!! And his very against growing in 100% perlite (check out his web site) so the debate goes on.
Hearing succes stories and failures is all helpfull. Keep posting
Cheers
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All,
good to hear everybody's views around composts.
I think the phrase ' no size fits all' is suitable.
It certainly helps to find out what works and what doesn't for different people in different environments.
I grow my plants 10 miles east of Cambridge in what is officially classified as semi-arid ( I kid you not) East Anglia.
(It is quite a change this week to be back in the more 'normal' cool April weather of sunshine and showers. First time since 2009)
Under these dry conditions I could probably get away with a more organic mix than I currently use.
However I'm used to it, it works for me and I'm very happy with the plant growth and flowering.
Angie - I buy my super coarse perlite from a local old fashioned horticultural supply shop.
It comes in 100 litre bags and retails for about £18.
That is a pretty competitive price and fills an awful lot of pots,
Regards,
David
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Tony,
I find that repotting generally checks cyp growth and results in smaller growths for at least a year, sometimes two.
What is your view?
Regards,
David
David
I have not enough experience to form a view. Apart from C. formosanum which I have been growing in John Innes and grit for five years I have only recently started growing a selection of others. Ignorance was bliss with the formosanum which grew like a weed.I am just learning with the others and greatly appreciate hearing others ideas.
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Angie - I buy my super coarse perlite from a local old fashioned horticultural supply shop.
It comes in 100 litre bags and retails for about £18.
That is a pretty competitive price and fills an awful lot of pots,
Regards,
David
Well thats a good price the best I could find was £24.99. Still if it can do a lot of pots its works out really cheap. Just need to find a good source for pumice and then I will be happy.
Angie :)
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Angie,
I use a lot of super coarse perlite, too. It tends to be rather dusty and breathing in the dust is not good for you. The way around that is to pour a couple of gallons of water into the bag (make sure there are holes in the bottom), that will send the dust to the bottom and your perlite will be nicer to handle. NB it's best not to do this in your kitchen. ;) ;) ;)
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Angie,
I use a lot of super coarse perlite, too. It tends to be rather dusty and breathing in the dust is not good for you. The way around that is to pour a couple of gallons of water into the bag (make sure there are holes in the bottom), that will send the dust to the bottom and your perlite will be nicer to handle. NB it's best not to do this in your kitchen. ;) ;) ;)
See how lucky we bunch are. All these tips from the professionals 8) its great that we get all these tips to help us novices to grow our plants on.
Angie :)
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Angie/Maren,
agreed - the one drawback with perlite is the dust - it is REALLY irritating to the lungs - don't use it in a confined space.
I do as Maren suggests and use it damp or failing that, repot outside where the dust can disappear in a large volume of air,
Regards,
David
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I use a face mask when I unpack my perlite
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Angie as for cost I paid £13 for 100ltrs in January, I always find the best deals are at hydroponic stores where people stock up to grow plants that really do make you happy ;)
You can also get it delivered buying off Ebay for £20 if there are no local suppliers. Just search perlite.
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Angie,
make sure you get the super coarse. Ebay sometimes tells fibs about the grain size. It should be 5 - 10 mm.
Actually, fixing the dust with a couple of buckets of water is my quick method. When I pull myself together to do it properly it goes like this:
1 get an empty dustbin or other container large enough to accommodate a sack of perlite
2 put on the face mask - or check wind direction, making sure it blows away from you - better to use a mask.
3 cut the perlite sack with a kitchen knife and empty the perlite into the waste bin
4 fill the bin with water
5 stir well with a long stick (broom handle) and leave
6 put a lid on the waste bin to keep out dirt, falling leaves etc.
7 take off face mask.
Now when I want to use the perlite, I use a large sieve and fish it out of the water. That definitely leaves all the dust behind.
If used unwashed, it can be pretty bad for your lungs. Ever heard of coal miners' lung disease which they got from breathing in coal dust? it's a bit like that, just a different colour. :) :) :)
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Maren, I am extra careful when it comes to dusty stuff as my mum was housebound because she had chronic pulmonary disease.
Thats a good idea putting the perlite into a bin. Thanks for taking the time to explain your methods.
Angie :)
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My segawai in flower now, with light fragrant.
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Very nice segawai.. Lovely green..thanks for showing
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If excess water is a problem use perlite as it drains very freely. I used 80% with 10% loam and 10% orchid bark and rarely had to water pots in Dunblane. If too much water is not a problem then Seramis® can be used as it retains more water for longer. I initially used 40% Seramis® and 40% perlite, but found Seramis® increasingly difficult to obtain locally. I even used 80% perlite in the garden, firstly with pond baskets and later by just digging a huge hole and hoping the Dunblane clay would not invade the root ball too quickly. It seemed to work.
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Cypripedium in my garden
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Jan, what a wonderful display!!! and how nice to meet you. Last time I was in Samarkand (1979), it did not look like a place for growing cypripediums. It was hot and dry and the wind was blowing in from the desert.
How do you manage it? :) :) :)
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Maren
Yes, you're right. In Samarkand is very hot. There grow bulbs in Europe Cypripedium
Jan, what a wonderful display!!! and how nice to meet you. Last time I was in Samarkand (1979), it did not look like a place for growing cypripediums. It was hot and dry and the wind was blowing in from the desert.
How do you manage it? :) :) :)
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What a display, mine are all looking so sad, heads hanging down with all this rain and miserable weather that we are having.
I would never move from that spot if I had that display, a wonderful sight 8)
Angie :)
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Jan - a fantastic sight.
Can you tell us how you grow them so well?
Thanks,
David
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...and can you please tell us where you grow these lovely cypripediums??
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Angie,
staking is the answer. I'm just off with a bundle of flowersticks and a bag of lever loops. The sticks I have chosen are a lot longer than the cyps - you can always cut them short just below the flower but you cant make them longer....
One end of each stick has been cut at a slant so that it goes easily into the substrate without destroying the roots. A gentle wiggle usually does it.
Cyps usually don't need staking if the are in a mass with lots of nice companion plants to support them. But pots is another matter...
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Thanks Maren, thats something I better do this as all we need is some wind now and then I can imagine the stem will snap. I even thought about putting them in my polytunnel but then when the sun comes out it gets really hot in their, especially if I forget to open the doors. Hopefully the cold nights will soon be gone and and I can stop fretting about my plants. My hubby keeps saying to me, I thought gardening was meant to be relaxing and you worry more about the plants that you do about me. Well he can feed and dress himself can't he :-X, plants need a little help ;D
Maren I do hope I meet up with you one day, you have been so helpful :-*
Angie :)
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Hi Angie,
I hope we'll meet up, too. Maybe at the next big rock event?? ;D
When I went to see my cyps today, they had grown in leaps and bounds, buds everywhere. But the rotten old snails had been about, too, so another little handful of pellets was administered. It's a job keeping up with them. ::) ::) ::)
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Maren,
have you tried hydroleuca for top dressing?
I can honestly say that in six years I've never had any problems with them.
I do use slug pellets intermittently but would have expected some damage occasionally if it
didn't discourage them.
I have to agree about the rain - the cyps seem to have enjoyed it despite the cold temperatures,
Regards,
David
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Hi David,
I like the idea of using hydroleca, but that would be a bit counter productive in my case. My cyps are potted in a mixture of Seramis and pumice, and I can detect from the colour, whether the plants need watering or not. If I cover the tops with hydroleca, I loose this useful indicator.
Tomorrow I'll put slug tape around the pots in one frame only to see whether that makes any difference. - But thanks for the suggestion. :) :) :)
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Cypripedium fargesii
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C. calceolus and C. ventricosum
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Your calceolus is unlike any I've ever seen. The pouch is so dark.
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Cypripedium fargesii
Superb, Allesandro!
C. calceolus and C. ventricosum
Beautiful plants, Jan! I have to agree with Anthony...I've never seen such a dark C. calceolus...it's really drool-worthy!
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My first two in flower
Cypripedium formosanum
Cypripedium plectrochilum
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Wow Jan how do you grow your Cyps in the garden, its a mass of colourfull slippers...what have you added to your garden soil?..looks like bark and ??
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Jan, lovely pix. Your calceolus looks very like shanxiense,
David
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After pollenning .... made some hybrids in this afternoon,
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Cypripedium fargesii
Superb, Allesandro!
C. calceolus and C. ventricosum
Beautiful plants, Jan! I have to agree with Anthony...I've never seen such a dark C. calceolus...it's really drool-worthy!
Thanks Wim
I'm not Cypripedium cultivator, this makes me happy
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Are these the kind of thing people use in orchid compost?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251045789055&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Looks like a good buy if you live in Dorset!
yijiawang, I love your cyp picture!
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my garden
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my garden
:o :o :o (I've got no words to describe that) :o :o :o
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Hi Jan,
these are wonderful pictures. I wish you would let us know where you are gardening, country, hardiness zone??? to give us some idea why you are so successful. don't worry, we are not going to come and demand entry to your garden. ;) ;) ;)
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Jan - just amazing photos and plants,
Thanks,
David
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hello,
some unususal Cyps are just flowering:
Cypripedium Schoko (calceolus X shanxiense)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120421-120222-384.jpg)
and one of two passerinum Hybrids
Cypripedium Amelie (passerinum X flavum)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120423-124142-508.jpg)
enjoy
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hello,
some unususal Cyps are just flowering:
Cypripedium Schoko (calceolus X shanxiense)
and one of two passerinum Hybrids
Cypripedium Amelie (passerinum X flavum)
enjoy
Wonderful plants, Dieter!!
Now I know why that hybrid is called "Schoko" ;)
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OK guys,
I have some mmore from this morning.
I bought this from a known nursery as "selected alba form"
but now it is a genetic mutation,
not bad ;)
Cypripedium x ventricosum ' Uwes alba #1 '
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120427-103758-799.jpg)
this is one of my first time flowering
Cypripedium farreri seedlings, about 6 year old,
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120427-103758-155.jpg)
enjoy
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That farreri is beautiful 8)
Do you give it anyspecial treatment or grow it like other Chinese Cyps?
Cheers,
Alex
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Garden orchids from the Netherlands (http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/ (http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/)) is selling a lot of Cypripediums in Belgium now;
I'm still wondering which species and hybrids they are selling though!?!
I take it C. 'Kentucky' is C. kentuckiense, C. 'Regina' is C. reginae, C. 'Parville' is C. parviflorum var. parviflorum, C. 'Pueblo' is C. parviflorum var. pubescens!
But then it starts: C. 'Regina White' is said to be a hybrid, but which one?
As for 'Kentucky Maxi', 'Kentucky Pink' and 'Kentucky Pink Blush', I haven't got a clue...from the name I would say they are all Cyp. kentuckiense hybrids
Anyone care to guess??
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That farreri is beautiful 8)
Do you give it anyspecial treatment or grow it like other Chinese Cyps?
Cheers,
Alex
nothing special :)
but the small rhizoms up to now frostfree in cold frame
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Garden orchids from the Netherlands (http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/ (http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/)) is selling a lot of Cypripediums in Belgium now;
I'm still wondering which species and hybrids they are selling though!?!
I take it C. 'Kentucky' is C. kentuckiense, C. 'Regina' is C. reginae, C. 'Parville' is C. parviflorum var. parviflorum, C. 'Pueblo' is C. parviflorum var. pubescens!
But then it starts: C. 'Regina White' is said to be a hybrid, but which one?
As for 'Kentucky Maxi', 'Kentucky Pink' and 'Kentucky Pink Blush', I haven't got a clue...from the name I would say they are all Cyp. kentuckiense hybrids
Anyone care to guess??
lets wait until we see first flowers...............
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lets wait until we see first flowers...............
You can see the flowers here: http://www.gardenorchid.com/assortiment/ (http://www.gardenorchid.com/assortiment/)
If you click on the flowers you can see some more pics!
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And here for the "hybrids??":
Cypripedium 'Kentucky Maxi': http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19692/image/9837/ (http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19692/image/9837/)
Cypripedium 'Kentucky Pink Blush': http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19691/image/9704/ (http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19691/image/9704/)
Cypripedium 'Kentucky Pink': http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/image/9827/id/19693/ (http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/image/9827/id/19693/)
Cypripedium 'Regina White': http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19698/image/9692/ (http://plantenbestel.nl/catalog/product/gallery/id/19698/image/9692/)
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Cyp Parviflorum
https://plus.google.com/photos/105169228901870620843/albums/5196219194231611569/5736121806101812370
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hello,
as far as I heared from an "insider",
various Kentucky lines have a kentuckiense backbone
to which colours of other lines have been introgressed into.
but he did not say what was introgressed.
the Regina white is reginae alba,
the Kentucky Maxi for me is "Gabriela" hybrid with fasciolatum
but no real idea what the others could be, sorry
there are some more hybrids from same source with montanum parent,
all are "unregistered" yet.
flowers of two of them will follow for me in about 3 weeks...........
cheers
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Cyp Parviflorum
https://plus.google.com/photos/105169228901870620843/albums/5196219194231611569/5736121806101812370
nice parviflorum cultivar, Michael :)
cheers
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hello guys,
this is the next of those 'selected' alba clones, but its the best
Cypripedium x ventricosum ' Uwes alba #2 '
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120428-132955-416.jpg)
enjoy
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Here's 'Pueblo' in my greenhouse yesterday - looks like fairly typical pubescens to me, no?
Alex
P.S. Where do they get these names??!!
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............... Where do they get these names??!!
from the fantasy................
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I would imagine the names were chosen to indicate (to the authorities?) that the plants are hybrids, not species. Different rules for exportation apply to species. But of course, there could be other reasons. ;) ;) ;)
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Hallo Dieter,
I am puzzled by the choice of name for Cypripedium x ventricosum ' Uwes alba #2 '.
When I studied Latin in the last century, 'alba' meant 'white' and it is generally understood that if a plant form is named as 'alba', it lacks red pigmentation.
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hello,
as far as I heared from an "insider",
various Kentucky lines have a kentuckiense backbone
to which colours of other lines have been introgressed into.
the Kentucky Maxi for me is "Gabriela" hybrid with fasciolatum
Here is one in Flower.
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Cypripedium japonicum in flower now, in situ. It is the first time that I enjoy this species in the wild, astonish so warm climate...
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some Cypripedien today
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hello,
I think the "kentucky" was wrong labelled in the garden center.
this is nothing with kentuckiense,
neither the species nor a hybrid with kentuckiense.
nice flower though.
cheers
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Hallo Dieter,
I am puzzled by the choice of name for Cypripedium x ventricosum ' Uwes alba #2 '.
When I studied Latin in the last century, 'alba' meant 'white' and it is generally understood that if a plant form is named as 'alba', it lacks red pigmentation.
hello Maren, yes you are right :)
but you overlooked the posting #114
......I bought this from a known nursery as "selected alba form"
but now it is a genetic mutation,
not bad ;)
Cypripedium x ventricosum ' Uwes alba #1 '
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120427-103758-799.jpg)
...................
indeed it is not "alba" , the funny name is just a reminder for me,
that the guy cheated me many years ago with 4 plants of these.
no one was white.
but I will show you next days some "true"whites,
and all are NOT from "Uwe" :)
cheers
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The names applied to the Gardenorchids offerings are marketing names and nothing more. The first four last year Pueblo is parviflorum pubescens; Parville is parviforum parviforum; Regina White obviously reginae alba and Kentucky is kentuckiense. It is a pity that the grower will not tell us what the new hybrids are and that they are not registering them. I have about 30 Kentucky Pink Blush in flower and there is quite a variation but many are very similar to Phillip. The Kentucky Maxi is indeed like Gabriela. I like the way the bowl darkens as it gets older. Because many of the plants are flowering early through being grown in a greenhouse there is likely to be a lot of variation when the later plants flower. I have yet to see a pink in flower . My concern is the number of plants I have found this year with poor root systems. I think it is party due to the high organic cntent of the compost and possibly the summer temperatures they were grown in.
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Forgot to say. If anyone is visiting RHS Harlow Carr in the next few weeks you should be able to have a close look at all seven of the Gardenorchids cypripediums as the RHS has just purchased 50 from me to be planted in a new bed complex.
Jeff
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The Kentucky Maxi is indeed like Gabriela. I like the way the bowl darkens as it gets older.
Is that kind of colour change often found in Cyps, Jeff?
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The naming of cyps is the personal choice of the original breeder who registered the cross. Perhaps the original 'Uwes Alba' was white, but since all cyps are grown from seed, subsequent crosses may throw up different colours. I think Dieter is right about Cyp. kentucky looking wrong, but he must have better garden centres than the UK if he can find cypripediums in them. Most garden centre staff would glaze over, as if you were speaking Latin, if you asked about them.
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Thanks all for the help, to summarise, you can never be really sure about the Cyp you get when you buy one from Garden Orchids(??)....or at least not of the hybrids:
but 'Kentucky Maxi' could be 'Gabriela' (kentuckiense x fasciolatum) and 'Kentucky Pink Blush' could be 'Philipp' (macranthos x kentuckiense)....
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cypripedium tibeticum
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3972/tibeticum20121.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/tibeticum20121.jpg/)
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Hello Hakone,
lovely C. tibeticum flower, good shape. But is the flower colour really as light as shown or has your camera cheated and made it lighter? We discussed this elsewhere, it is so difficult to capture the darker reds.
Beautiful plant, though, I have just taken delivery of 30 young plants of C. tibeticum from Holger Perner and I hope they turn out as nice as yours.
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another cypripedium tibeticum
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6999/tibeticum20122.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/tibeticum20122.jpg/)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/149/tibeticum20123.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/tibeticum20123.jpg/)
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cypripedium Aki and cypripedium tibeticum
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9602/akiundtibeticum.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/akiundtibeticum.jpg/)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6081/aki20121.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/aki20121.jpg/)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3852/aki20122.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/aki20122.jpg/)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1435/tibeticum20124.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/tibeticum20124.jpg/)
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These are very pale tibeticum. Mine were really dark. My favourite is the one with dark netting over yellow on the tepals.
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Thanks all for the help, to summarise, you can never be really sure about the Cyp you get when you buy one from Garden Orchids(??)....or at least not of the hybrids:
but 'Kentucky Maxi' could be 'Gabriela' (kentuckiense x fasciolatum) and 'Kentucky Pink Blush' could be 'Philipp' (macranthos x kentuckiense)....
It seems so Wim , as we also discussed on our Flemish forum .As you know this one is also from them ...
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And from the same source ...but I was thinking this is maybe Cypripedium parviflorum subsp. pubescens ?
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hello Kris,
for me this is not pubescens,
no doubt there is also fasciolatum influence in the flower.........
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hello,
some more flowers opened.............
Cypripedium X ventricosum 'white'
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114050-355.jpg)
Cypripedium Gisela 'yellow strain'
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114015-888.jpg)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114401-159.jpg)
Cypripedium Hybrid (Aki X kentuckiense)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114015-261.jpg)
Cypripedium hotei-atsumorianum
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114015-794.jpg)
Cypripedium Hybrid Carol Ilene
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120505-114015-549.jpg)
enjoy
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Goofy - nice plants - at least one of your x ventricosums is almost white!
Is the hotei from Jeff? I see that rareplants is now offering this form of macranthos.
Regards,
David
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hello David,
the white ventricosum is NOT from "Uwe", ;)
its a plant from W. Frosch, about 10 years old now.........,
the hotei is about 50 years in cultivation
and I received a piece about 5 years ago from a buddy.
the hotei now selling on the web are from "dutch" source..........
cheers
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Goofy really nice plants thanks for sharing 8).
Angie :)
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Goofy - do you know if these current hotei's are all from the same source?
I also have an aki x kentuckiense with a bud on the way - I'll post soon.
I'm hoping for the pure yellow form.
So it seems that pure white or cream ventricosums are quite rare.
No-one seem to offer them.
I have a Frosch plant of 'ventricosum pale' that is very similar to yours,
David
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Cypripedium henryi
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7607/cypripediumhenryi20120.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/cypripediumhenryi20120.jpg/)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1092/cypripediumhenryi2012.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/cypripediumhenryi2012.jpg/)
Cypripedium Gisela Sabine
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1637/cypripediumgisela2012.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/cypripediumgisela2012.jpg/)
Cypripedium japonicum
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9158/cypripediumjaponicum201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/cypripediumjaponicum201.jpg/)
Cypripedium parviflorum
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1636/cypripediumparviflorum2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/cypripediumparviflorum2.jpg/)
Cypripedium planipetalum
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9405/cypripediumplanipetalum.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/cypripediumplanipetalum.jpg/)
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Nice photos Hakone - is the gisela a 'yellow' form of the cross?
David
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Hello David,
sorry please , not Gisela , is Sabine
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Goofy - do you know if these current hotei's are all from the same source?
I also have an aki x kentuckiense with a bud on the way - I'll post soon.
I'm hoping for the pure yellow form.
as far as I heared they are from the same source.................
and the Aki Hybrid IS THE "YELLOW FORM"
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20110417-133518-534.gif)
so hope that you are the "lucky guy"...............
cheers
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hello Kris,
for me this is not pubescens,
no doubt there is also fasciolatum influence in the flower.........
Hello Dieter , thanks for your reply . So another label that I have to change ...and again another mistery ....
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Cypripedium Sabine
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3794/cypripediumsabine201200.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/cypripediumsabine201200.jpg/)
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6840/cypripediumsabine201201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/cypripediumsabine201201.jpg/)
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Hakone - nice plants but your sabine looks too tall for this grex.
It looks much more like aki or aki pastel.
Photos are of Sunny( fasciolatum x calceolus).
A nice big potful and an excellent grower.
It has really nice deep green foliage every year - much better than any other cyp.
I ought to try to put a pod on this plant this year, not sure with what,
Regards,
David
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hello friends,
it was a nice day to take some more pics.
Cypripedium farreri #2
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120507-204827-896.jpg)
Cypripedium pubescens 'longpetal'
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120507-204827-229.jpg)
Cypripedium parviflorum makasin
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120507-204827-799.jpg)
and
Cypripedium Hybrid Sebastian
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120507-204827-307.jpg)
enjoy
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The 'Sabine' above doesn't look like the clone I had, grown from a Paul Christian £3 seedling. http://www.cypripedium.de/English/garden/growth/growth.html (http://www.cypripedium.de/English/garden/growth/growth.html)
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Hakone - nice plants but your sabine looks too tall for this grex.
It looks much more like aki or aki pastel.
Photos are of Sunny( fasciolatum x calceolus).
A nice big potful and an excellent grower.
It has really nice deep green foliage every year - much better than any other cyp.
I ought to try to put a pod on this plant this year, not sure with what,
Regards,
David
David,
thank you very much , you're right , it is Aki Pastell ( mislabelling from nursery )
Regards,
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I always wanted Cypripedium parviflorum var makasin. I believe it is deliciously scented?
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Cypripedium Gisela
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1715/cypripediumgisela201201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/cypripediumgisela201201.jpg/)
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8509/cypripediumgisela201202.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/cypripediumgisela201202.jpg/)
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Cypripedium x andrewsii
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3503/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/205/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg/)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3503/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg/)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3503/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/cypripediumxandrewsii20.jpg/)
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Some of my Cyp hybrids in my garden.
Notice Emil almost overgrown by a clump of Trillium albidum, which became very large this year. I have to move the Cyp to give it some space.
1 to 3 are my favorite Cyp: Sebastian. #3 is flowering for the first time.
4 and 5 are x andrewsii
6 is Erika
7 is Emil
8 is Ingrid
9 is Gisela Pastel
10 is a lighter colored form of x andrewsii
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John, nice collection
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Hello all wonderful pictures I am surprised that so many Cypripediums are flowering well do not think the flowers outside will last long as the weather is foul. A few pictures from my garden and plants in pots under cover, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Some really nice Cyps there 8)
Angie :)
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Unusually coloured tepals in the macranthos.
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Hi Ian,
Your Parville is very colorful. Very nice. I have seen lesser colored ones.
Cheers,
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Looks very like 'Emil'?
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Looks very like 'Emil'?
It does. But since Parville is a trade name of Dutch nursery Anthura Garden Orchid and is actually parviflorum it is no surprise that it can look like 'Emil'.
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How can a species be marketed under a trade name? :-\ I've not seen red on the pouch of parviflorum before.
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How can a species be marketed under a trade name? :-\ I've not seen red on the pouch of parviflorum before.
For the sake of commerce I think. They do it with other species too.
They have Pueblo, which is pubescens. Kentucky, which is kentuckiense. Regina and Regina white, which are reginae. Now they have hybrids too like Kentucky Pink Blush. Visit their website and look at their assortment: http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/assortiment/ (http://www.gardenorchid.com/en/assortiment/)
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By the way. These marketed species by Anthura are aimed for the mass public, who are less interested in the scientific names. These orchids are sold at Garden Centres and even DIY stores for what I consider bargain prices: 20 to 25 euros for multibudded clumps. When the flowers are 'over' you can even buy multibudded specimens for about 10 euros at these DIY stores last year.
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10 Euro :)................ John , You can bring me some ;D
I also bought some like this ? hybrid.....should be a kentuckie maxie 2 flowering buds just 20 euro. and parville with 7 flowers in it..
In the garden is flowering Macranthos ,and white macranthos
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My very green Cypripedium henryi which has rotted of at the base as it flowered. Lets hope there are some dormant buds on the roots.
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Nice rocky set up you've got there for your Cyps.
Your Kentucky Maxi looks a bit like kentuckiense x fasciolatum.
When I encounter these Garden Orchid Cyps on a clearance sale at the DIY stores (mostly in Germany, but the border is just a few miles away) I will think of you ;)
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cypripedium Hans Mall
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9066/cypripediumhanssmall201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/cypripediumhanssmall201.jpg/)
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9066/cypripediumhanssmall201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/cypripediumhanssmall201.jpg/)
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hello friends,
just some more interesting pictures:
Cypripedium hybrid (montanum X tibeticum)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110727-553.jpg)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110728-434.jpg)
Cypripedium calceolus (european)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110622-133.jpg)
Cypripedium parviflorum #1
very long spirally twisted petals
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110728-698.jpg)
Cypripedium parviflorum #2
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110728-104.jpg)
enjoy
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Sarmieata, your little ferny grotto looks amazing...
thanks for showing :)
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A few other Cyps flowering now:
1. Cypripedium 'Rascal'
2. Cypripedium parviflorum parviflorum. I also have parviflorum makasin but these need two more years before they start to flower.
3. Cypripedium candidum x kentuckiense
4. Cypripedium calceolus
5. Cypripedium x andrewsii different clump
6. and 7. are other 'Sebastian' forms starting to flower. Nr. 6. for the first time with two flowers. Nr. 7 looks a bit like the new hybrid
'Lusarem'.
Cheers,
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John, your cyps are doing really well. Lovely plants.
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hello friends,
some of the Cyp Hybrids just flowering
Cypripedium Gabriela (fasciolatum X kentuckiense)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-110623-482.jpg)
Cypripedium Pixi (calceolus X tibeticum)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120511-123608-224.jpg)
Cypripedium Philipp (macranthos X kentuckiense)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120513-132319-766.jpg)
the next two "Shawnas" are from different breeders....
Cypripedium Mem. Shawna Austin #1 (hotei-atsumorianum X calceolus)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120513-132355-34.jpg)
Cypripedium Mem. Shawna Austin #2 (hotei-atsumorianum X calceolus)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120513-132319-758.jpg)
Cypripedium Johnny Petersen (parviflorum X rebunense)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120513-132319-669.jpg)
enjoy
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Indeed nice cypripediums John , the one ,s i like ;) Thanks John and stephen you like my rocky " wild" garden.
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Some of the hybrids are nice, but some are just a waste of a pot. I love montanum and tibeticum, but the hybrid is awful! :P
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Some of the hybrids are nice, but some are just a waste of a pot. I love montanum and tibeticum, but the hybrid is awful! :P
no problem............
DONT BUY IT ;D
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Thanks Anthony and Sarmienta. Lost a couple newly planted Cyps this winter though :'(. Three roots systems completely turned to mush :-\
And with this weird yo-yoing spring weather we had a few others aborted their flowers just before flowering ???.
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no problem............
DONT BUY IT ;D
You paid money for it? :o ;D Anyone tried to import flasked seedlings to NZ? Shouldn't be a problem, except perhaps in the MAF imagination, as they are germinated on sterile media?
Thanks Anthony and Sarmienta. Lost a couple newly planted Cyps this winter though :'(. Three roots systems completely turned to mush :-\
And with this weird yo-yoing spring weather we had a few others aborted their flowers just before flowering ???.
Losing plants is always sad. I did several times, but it was usually to wrong position, or not making sure the worms hadn't dragged clay in from the surrounding soil. I drenched the plants in fungicide to reduce that risk.
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(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4993/garden201203.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/garden201203.jpg/)
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You paid money for it?
No, its a gift from a person who hates me.........
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20110417-133518-534.gif)
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No, its a gift from a person who hates me.........
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20110417-133518-534.gif)
Hey Goofy,
Please do hate me for your farreri #2. :P ;D ;D
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You paid money for it? :o ;D Anyone tried to import flasked seedlings to NZ? Shouldn't be a problem, except perhaps in the MAF imagination, as they are germinated on sterile media?
Losing plants is always sad. I did several times, but it was usually to wrong position, or not making sure the worms hadn't dragged clay in from the surrounding soil. I drenched the plants in fungicide to reduce that risk.
Hi Anthony,
Fortunately I don't have clay soil, but what's with the clay? ???
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Hey Goofy,
Please do hate me for your farreri #2. :P ;D ;D
sorry John,
I never hate any person...........
( ..................... but sometimes I have an allergy against somebody ;D )
maybe some time seedlings will be available :)
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Hi Anthony,
Fortunately I don't have clay soil, but what's with the clay? ???
My garden in Dunblane was solid clay. I had to dig huge pits and fill them with perlite to grow my cyps in the garden. Even then the worms would drag the clay in. With the rain we got - remember I could grow cyps in pots and rarely have to water them - would make my garden into a swamp. My lawn sloped 30o, and even a week after rain, the grass at the top would still be water logged. ::)
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Anyone tried to import flasked seedlings to NZ? Shouldn't be a problem, except perhaps in the MAF imagination, as they are germinated on sterile media?
I don't know about NZ importation rules but in Aus you can bring in 12 flasks without excess fees. Phytos to prove they are flask grown. And a sight inspection fee. CITES is not needed for flask orchids. That's the easy part.
There's the risk of them dyeing even before they arrive, its all about timing. Flasks were available in April, August would be better but the labs in the northern hemisphere could not provide this. In April I had a batch overheat on arrival at Sydney airport when it was 30c. Cyps in gel media are very sensitive to temperature fluctuations. I lost some to a bacterial rot when in growth the first year. Its a cheap way to import a lot but expect a lot of losses. I managed to keep alive 20% over the years and are all species so it was a challenge.
Best to do some research, speak to MAF officers and ask if your able to import flasks and the costs?
Overall I know of some importers that imported 2 yr old hybrids to Aus with exemptions to fumigation and thats where the losses were.
Good luck!
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My garden in Dunblane was solid clay. I had to dig huge pits and fill them with perlite to grow my cyps in the garden. Even then the worms would drag the clay in. With the rain we got - remember I could grow cyps in pots and rarely have to water them - would make my garden into a swamp. My lawn sloped 30o, and even a week after rain, the grass at the top would still be water logged. ::)
Thanks. Luckily I have sandy soil. The rain just poors through, but I have to be careful. Some tiny parts of the garden have a layer at a depth of 30 cm, which is highly compressed and does not drain very well. If I do not open that layer up, which is about 20 cm thick, I will have a tiny swamp there too. For every Cyp clump I dig down deep to be sure such a layer is not present.
How is your NZ soil? Better suited than in Dunblane?
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After three years in the ground and only showing leaves my x alaskanum is finally flowering now. Yee Haw!
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Cypripedium Gabriela
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8210/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg/)
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8210/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg/)
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8210/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/cypripediumgabriela2012.jpg/)
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My first this year, and a new one for me from a very kind forumist :) Two flowers now and another to come. Rather bent over by the wind, rain and hail of the last few days.
Cypripedium 'Giselle'
Edit. Oops wrong thread this is in the garden not a pot. :-[
maggi edit : it's in the right place now ;) :)
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My first this year, and a new one for me from a very kind forumist :) Two flowers now and another to come. Rather bent over by the wind, rain and hail of the last few days.
Cypripedium 'Giselle'
Edit. Oops wrong thread this is in the garden not a pot. :-[
maggi edit : it's in the right place now ;) :)
Thanks Maggi,
But I thought I'd gone mad ;D I didn't see your edit at first and went looking in the Cyps in pots thead to see what I had done and was just about to edit my edit to remove it so I didn't look as though I didn't know what I was doing, and then I saw your edit and realised I didn't neeed to edit my edit. ???
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I often feel like that, Graham... sit down with a cuppa or a beer and you'll soon feel better :-*
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Time for a cuppa then!
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How is your NZ soil? Better suited than in Dunblane?
Solid clay, but I don't think we have a cold enough winter to grow them successfully?
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hello,
today some species Cyps
Cypripedium calceolus
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120516-124704-501.jpg)
Cypripedium guttatum
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120513-132319-791.jpg)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120516-125616-161.jpg)
Cypripedium pubescens
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120516-124703-560.jpg)
enjoy
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I had a clump of calceolus which grew in the shade. The tepals were always washed out, greenish with very little of the dark maroon, so I moved it to full sun (actually, anywhere north of Yorkshire, full sun is regarded as light shade) and from then on the tepals were really dark and I was happy. ;D
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Thought you might like to see my cypripedium 'Emil'.
It was my first foray into cyp's & it was a tiny thing when I bought it from Paul Christian. I planted it in free draining compost in a terracotta half pot as I read they were shallow rooted & needed sharp drainage. It didn't do very well at all just one stem each year for the next five or so years & the leaves were yellowish.
About two years ago I decided enough was enough, if it was tough enough to survive my learning curve then it should be tough enough to survive re-potting in to a deep plastic rose pot with better planting substrate. Since then it has romped away.
I picked up a tip from a grower of tropical orchids to use 'Orchid Focus' fertiliser as it does not contain nitrogen in the form of urea which he said orchids dislike.[attachimg=1]
Mike
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Cypripedium sp3, maybe a form of tibeticum or macranthum, or tibeticum X franchetii. Anyway, very very beautiful!
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Nice form of 'Emil' Mike. I grew it in the garden and it went from a wee non flowering plant to 60 flowering stems in just a few years.
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Thanks Anthony... :D
I'm tempted to start growing them in the garden too.
I've read the Frosch website however do you have any tips on how I should prepare a site Anthony?
My soil is on the heavy side.
Mike
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Dig a 'king big hole and fill it with the same mix you use in pots. If you have a problem with excess rain, as I did in Dunblane, then plant the crown slightly above the general garden level and cover with no more than an inch of mix and a layer of gravel? I used to use pond baskets, but you need to make sure they have fairly wide mesh to prevent roots being trapped as they grow through into the garden soil.
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Cypripedium Rascal
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5329/cypripediumrascal201202.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/cypripediumrascal201202.jpg/)
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/671/cypripediumrascal201203.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/cypripediumrascal201203.jpg/)
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hey,
just another C. calceolus in my garden (from South Tyrolia source)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120518-135555-33.jpg)
enjoy
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Very nice. :)
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Could this be a cypripedium ventricosum ?? Jonny
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hey,
where did you get it?
for my eyes "not very typical"
cheers
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hello,
nice Sunday yesterday,
so could take some nice pictures.
I am happy that it survived last winter, but flowering later than last years
growing in pot in pure "NZ sphagnum", with a good layer of fine pine bark.
Cypripedium acaule
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120520-171550-972.jpg)
also a "surviver", one of two plants,
but much smaller than last year
Cypripedium montanum
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120520-171612-769.jpg)
season tends to the end,
so now waiting on the "reginae and its hybrids" and the kentuckienses.
cheers
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Dieter,
Your acaule and montanum are mouth watering. I still haven't succeeded in getting my acaule to flower. But I hope next year will be the case. Since last year I moved my acaule to a live Sphagnum bog and the roots never looked healthier than before. Killed too many when trying to grow them in pots even in acid media. For what I can see they like the live Sphagnum conditions.
Montanum is one I still am searching for, but have high hopes for some I.V. seedlings next year. Until then I'll have to settle with its hybrids, which are nice too.
Here is another one:
montanum x kentuckiense from Gartenwerkstatt-Schreiner in Germany.
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hello John,
really nice clone :)
cheers
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Thanks for the advice Anthony, I've not logged on for a few days so sorry for not responding sooner.
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Johnny,
it could be a ventricosum cross- the colours have the look of 'ventricosum pale' from Michael Wienert.
However the flower shape is very much kentuckiense - see the overhanging dorsal and long droopy petals.
What do you know of the origin of the plant?
David
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Cypripedium parviflorum var. pubescens f. planipetalum today.
johnw
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Fantastic plants everyone! Fortunately not too many should be growable here in Spain. ;)
Hope those will like it for a longer period of time.
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Cypripedium Parville
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hello friends,
some hybrid Cyps from last days.
its awful hot here, about 30 Celsius.
new and unknown unbekannt#1, but not bad
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132419-298.jpg)
montanum X tibeticum, another cultivar not so strong growing.
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132418-829.jpg)
3 reginae hybrids
Ulla Silkens
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132418-704.jpg)
Ulla Silkens white
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132418-94.jpg)
Rheinsberg Sparrow Egg (reginae X passerinum) flower is small, 5cm span
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120521-131446-806.jpg)
Lothar P.
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132142-652.jpg)
Philipp
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120523-132727-490.jpg)
the season tends to the end here,
still waiting on the kentuckienses..........
enjoy
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Nice Cyps Goofy..is 30c unusual temperatures for this time of year? does it get higher? Looks like they are coping with it. :)
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Stephen,
30 and over is for few days in the year only, but with global warming, the average will rise.
yes, they can stand that fairly well for some days.
most plants grow between bushes or north facing wall and rims of bushes.
cheers
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I think I remember the temperature reaching 30oC in maybe only a couple of years in all the years living in Dunblane?
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Dieter,
Your Rheinsberg Sparrow Egg is nice. A bit more pinkish in color in the pouch isn't it? Is it an easy hybrid? Scarce one too I believe. I haven't found any sources for it.
Only one Cyp still have to start to flower now in my garden and still waiting for it. It is the hybrid montanum x reginae.
Hot days are here too, fortunately some ending with heavy rain and thunder storms, so the plants get more than enough water and it cools down a bit in the night. The forecast for this Pentacostal weekend gives lovely temperatures of 20 to 25 degrees and sunny. Good for the plants and certainly good for me 8) ;D
Cheers,
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Dieter,
Your Rheinsberg Sparrow Egg is nice. A bit more pinkish in color in the pouch isn't it? Is it an easy hybrid? Scarce one too I believe. I haven't found any sources for it.
the flower "is fairly white"........
its easy, but not showy, the long stem, the little flower.
I bought it from the breeder, and registered it for him.
have never seen it for sale later.
Only one Cyp still have to start to flower now in my garden and still waiting for it. It is the hybrid montanum x reginae.
my plant shows the little flower bud,
but with this heat it will open in the next days............
Hot days are here too, fortunately some ending with heavy rain and thunder storms, so the plants get more than enough water and it cools down a bit in the night. The forecast for this Pentacostal weekend gives lovely temperatures of 20 to 25 degrees and sunny. Good for the plants and certainly good for me 8) ;D
same as forcasted here in Berlin
hello, just read the bold entries above
cheers
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First Cypripediums this year
1.Emil
2.Gisella
3.It was supposwd to be Gisella Pastel
4.Cypripedium guttatum
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Oleg,
your cypripedium guttatum is lovely, very dark in colour. Mine have just finished. It's a little warm in England for cypripediums.
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But C.formosanum, japonicum and Chinese species must benefit from your warm weather (esp. winter). Here,alas, they are not good growers.
This C.guttatum is from Altai and feels good forming loose clumps. You never know where shoots will turn out.
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that it is too warm for cypripediums in England, just a little hot at the moment, where we are experiencing temperatures close to 30 degrees celsius. Leaves can flag a little during the day, but this can be managed by increasing shading and making sure they don't dry out.
Your comment on C. guttatum is encouraging. I grow mine in pots at the moment but will plant them out later, so that the rhizomes have freedom to move wherever they please. :)
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Some lovely Cyps, there. Isnt it amazing the difference in these plants. I have some nice flowers out now. I can't believe that months ago mine were showing shoots and all of a sudden they slowed down. Oh well at least they have all survived and all looking good.
I just forget to take some photos, this heat is slowing me down.
Maren 30degrees it to hot for me. I just don't understand why people on the tv and obsessed with heat and want temperatures to be in the thirties or above, me and my plants struggle. 25 degrees is good for me. I felt like jumping in with my Koi yesterday, water was only 22 but polytunnel was reading 40. I need to find some sort of shading.
Angie :)
Cant find the little o for degrees on my mac.
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Cant find the little o for degrees on my mac.
Angie, don't you have the wee square, next to the moving <-M<- above the row of smileys with sup in it? Just click it and put "o" inside the brackets and you get o. Otherwise type sup inside square brackets followed by o and then /sup inside square brackets.
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Hey Anthony you are not just a pretty face then ;) Did it and previewed it and yes it works :-* Now I only have to remember this.
Angie :)
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;D ;D ;D
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26oC it works :)
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Cant find the little o for degrees on my mac.
Angie,
Just type Alt and 0(zero) simultaneously on your mac and you'll get the little º for degrees in case you want to use it other than on this forum ;)
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Thanks John. I am just hopeless with these things ::) ;D
Angie :)
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Thanks John. I am just hopeless with these things ::) ;D
Angie :)
No you're not. The majority of Apple users don't know these specific key board combinations. I certainly don't and I always have to look things up 8) ;D
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Another shot of my x alaskanum. Just can't get enough of these little beauties.
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Lovely pic of a lovely orchid. I wish I'd tried these delicate beauties.
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John, really nice specimen :)
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Another shot of my x alaskanum. Just can't get enough of these little beauties.
Hi John,
would you say that the C. x alaskanum is easier to grow than its parent C. guttatum?
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Quick question for the Cyp. people, if I may: I have a nice C. macranthos that I've grown for 12 years now (originally from Chen Yi, so it dodn't have the best start!) and it normally puts up a couple of FS or just less shoots despite a lot of neglect. This year it didn't appear, so i dug down into the pot to find a very healthy rhizome and lots of healthy roots with a rotten shoot (there might have been more than one). Is there hope for the plant to get back to a FS shoot soon, or is this a dead end now? i think they do have subsidiary shoots sometimes, but I can't see one i this case. Will it take may years to reach its former size if it can? Advice welcome!
Cheers,
Alex
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Hi John,
would you say that the C. x alaskanum is easier to grow than its parent C. guttatum?
Hi Maren,
I am not sure. I have lost all my guttatums in the garden, whereas x alaskanum (four clumps) keeps coming up each year with leaves and one is starting to flower now. But the guttatums I received had all short roots systems; probably wild dug >:(.
The x alaskanum needs time to settle in well to flower though. All of them where bought mature and with flowering sized buds, but none of them flowered all these three years up until now. As with japonicum and being a spreader I think it will need sufficient length in their root system to start flowering.
I have started again with guttatum this early spring, but with a seedling 2 years from flowering with a healthy long root system, so now I have high hopes for it to survive and start flowering in two or more years.
Best,
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Quick question for the Cyp. people, if I may: I have a nice C. macranthos that I've grown for 12 years now (originally from Chen Yi, so it dodn't have the best start!) and it normally puts up a couple of FS or just less shoots despite a lot of neglect. This year it didn't appear, so i dug down into the pot to find a very healthy rhizome and lots of healthy roots with a rotten shoot (there might have been more than one). Is there hope for the plant to get back to a FS shoot soon, or is this a dead end now? i think they do have subsidiary shoots sometimes, but I can't see one i this case. Will it take may years to reach its former size if it can? Advice welcome!
Cheers,
Alex
Alex,
If the root system is healthy it will survive. Just plant the roots in the pot again maybe sprayed or dusted with some fungicide around the shoot and maintain your normal growing procedures, but don't neglect it ;). It will send shoots again next year although smaller and probably not flowering.
Good luck.
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Thanks, John, I'll do that.
Cheers,
Alex
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hello friends,
these two today.
not so good this year
Cypripedium Anne (reginae X macranthos)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120528-082522-427.jpg)
and only few flowers this year on
Cypripedium reginae albiflora
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120528-131355-376.jpg)
nevertheless ENJOY :)
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John your Cyp alaskanum is brilliant 8) so is your photo taking.
Ang :)
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Hello,
very light colored, but I think still tibeticum!
added 30/05/12
Hello,
I have been told that my light coloured tibeticum is in fact franchetii because of its hairy ovarium!
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I agree with Angie about the alaskanum and the reginae albiflora is wonderful.
A couple of my lesser offerings
Cypripedium flavum
Cypripedium calceolus
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Unusual colour for tibeticum. I could never keep it, or flavum happy.
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Hello,
I have been told that my light coloured tibeticum is in fact franchetii because of its hairy ovarium!
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Hello,
I have been told that my light coloured tibeticum is in fact franchetii because of its hairy ovarium!
Refers to this post on previous page : Re: Cypripedium 2012
« Reply #253 on: May 29, 2012, 06:00:39 PM »
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Lovely, nevertheless. 8)
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hello friends,
some pics from today.
just another
Cypripedium Ulla Silkens
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124515-869.jpg)
fairly new hybrid, not so breathtaking, small like the montanum
Cypripedium (montanum X reginae)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124514-197.jpg)
some of my Cypripedium kentuckiense
Cypripedium kentuckiense cv. John L. from a buddy in the US
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124515-229.jpg)
closeup
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124515-926.jpg)
Cypripedium kentuckiense cv. Michael
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124559-210.jpg)
Cypripedium kentuckiense cv.#3
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120531-124515-548.jpg)
enjoy
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Seen at a semi secret location in Cumbria on Tuesday. Cypripedium calceolus
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Hi Shelagh,
you are fortunate indeed to see this wonderful clump of C. calceolus. A lot of effort is being put by The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, and English Nature into re-introducing this species back into the British countryside. :)
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hello friends,
does anybody knows by the chance anything about
Adrian from "orchidsbypost" ? ? ? ?
PM welcome :)
tks
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Seen at a semi secret location in Cumbria on Tuesday. Cypripedium calceolus
The file name on your photo is a bit of a giveaway.....
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The file name on your photo is a bit of a giveaway.....
Oops, I've fixed that!
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As I explained to Ron it was a bit misleading as we drove a few miles and we had a native guide ;D
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In comparison to Dieter's hybrid my montanum x reginae is a bit more like reginae.
These are indeed not spectacular but more delicately colored.
Cheers,
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hey John,
its interesting too
:)
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Seen at a semi secret location in Cumbria on Tuesday. Cypripedium calceolus
(Attachment Link)
Shelagh, is this a historical introduction from Europe, or one of the more recent British ones? There was such a plant near Carnforth that was vandalised a few years back, but survived.
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Anthony it is one of the Kew raised introductions and is monitored by local volunteers I think. There was tape all round the area. Several clumps but some had gone over. I'll post another clump.
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Shelagh
I went to see them last year and although they were wonderful I think you have got an even better flowering year. They seem to be establishing very well over a wide area.
One I saw last year in May,this was the best clump.
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They certainly seem to be happy in their situation Tony. Long may it last.
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Such a shame that they had to be brought back from the brink. Let's hope they are left for all who see them to enjoy. My fascination with these legendary plants began with the Brooke Bond "Wild Flower" cards, and listening to my Grandmother, who collected and pressed wild flowers.
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Its a wonder that theres not a chain wire fence surrounding the area....and its good to hear that Kew's efforts in conservation is working for these orchids.
thanks for showing
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The one remaining original plant was in a cage. Rumour has it for many years the flowers were removed to protect it from thieves?
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I wonder if public sensibilities to rare native plants like Cypripedium calceolus now would mean that the likelyhood of damage to colonies was reduced these days? I live in hope. Very lovely to see them establishing like this and it must indicate that the prospect of much wider spread in the future is hopeful. The greatest success will be when they begin to appear from natural seeding which will also reduce the need for such careful policing. May be a while I imagine.
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Unfortunately we don't have Cypripedium calceolus growing native in The Netherlands.
Although in 2009 a discovery was made in the most southern part of The Netherlands in Limburg province in a protected calcareous grass land. See the photo below from the discoverer.
Was this a spectacular new find? Having a Lady Slipper Orchid growing native in The Netherlands would have been quite awesome. The habitat was very suitable for this orchid to germinate and grow, but than it would have been seed from the nearest location in the neighbouring German Bundesland Nordrhein-Westfalen, which is still a few hundred kilometers away from the Dutch location.
So scientists did some field and desk research and with the help of Michael Fay of the Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew the DNA could be traced to an Austrian line of calceolus. Therefore the plant was unfortunately planted :-\. The results of the research were published in Dutch publication "Het Natuurhistorisch Maandblad" edition November 2010.
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The one remaining original plant was in a cage. Rumour has it for many years the flowers were removed to protect it from thieves?
I once went to see the one remaining plant only about five years ago and it was a poor thing growing in a hedgerow. It had one half eaten flower and was easily identified by the large frame tent pitched next to it supposedly occupied by a guardian who was absent no doubt because it was cold and raining.A total anticlimax.
A couple of years later somebody tore the top growth off but did not remove the roots and this seemed to spur it into better growth.
The ones planted via the Kew project are much finer specimens growing in the open and doing well.
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This is good news for the species Tony, but sad about the original plant. With the changing UK climate it might now be time to bite the bullet and find new habitats for it. Arnside Knot in Cumbria is the last English locality for the Scotch argus butterfly (Erebia aethiops), which is common in the Scottish borders (and from north and west of Tyndrum in Glen Lochy, but that environment would be unsuitable). The butterfly used to be found at Grassmere in Yorkshire too.
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I returned on Friday from the AGS Gardens of Gothenburg trip. One of the highlights was a visit to Kinnekulle, 'flowering mountain' 150km NE of Gothenburg. We were led into a wood along a path which became a boardwalk as the soil got wetter. We expected to see a few clumps of Cyprepedium calceolus and to have to queue for photographs. What we saw was quite overwhelming. A large are full of Cyps was roped off and a circular path off the main path allowed us all to spread out and take pictures of as many clumps as we wished. Our guide Gerben Tjeerdsma said he had been there 4 or 5 times before but this was the best he had seen them. I feel we were very privileged to see such a sight.
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My word, I think the phrase used is "locally plentiful" 8) :o
Worth the trip for that alone, eh, Roma ?
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Roma that's amazing, what a beautiful sight all those Cypripediums must have been 8). Something that I would have thoroughly enjoyed if I had been there.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Angie :)
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Hear, hear!!! what a wonderful scene. The timing just perfect. Interesting to see some multifloral Cyp. calceolus. Thank you. :) :) :)
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Cypripedium kentuckiense, a gift from a kind forumist.
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Healthy calceolus usually has more than one flower per stem. This site/sight is amazing. Thanks for posting these pics Roma. It must have been a magical experience?
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Magical to see...Cyps in the wild...good to see some form of educating the public and with a guided tour and a board walk to protect their habitat. :)
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Magical to see...Cyps in the wild...good to see some form of educating the public and with a guided tour and a board walk to protect their habitat. :)
Couldn't agree more Stephen. By the way, Hope you are having a great birthday!
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Roma's pictures reminds me of the Austrian Lechtal calceolus population. Also a sight to see :o :o :o 8):
Cypripedium calceolus in Nature 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPUgOb_uRcI#ws)
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That is indeed an impressive sight
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What a wonderful video. I have just been transported to this wonderful site. 8)
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John, thats amazing :o 8)
Angie :)
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first day first cyp
Cypripedium parviflorum, roadside near Tobermory, Ontario. There were plants every couple of yards along the road,mostly going over
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Tony, what a lovely surprise. :) :) :) and you were able to stop the car to take a picci ;) ;) ;)
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first day first cyp
Cypripedium parviflorum, roadside near Tobermory, Ontario. There were plants every couple of yards along the road,mostly going over
Tony the ground looks bone dry,was it?
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Maren
we were having lunch down a side road and there were dozens all along the edge,just going over.
Yes very dry.
Very mild winter and no rain,the bog we visited to see sarracenia was dust dry in parts. Cyp reginae was in flower there but too far away to photograph.
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Another day another cyp
Cypripedium reginae in a ditch near the hotel
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Wow Tony that's a pretty nice ditch...looks to be growing with a western red cedar?? did you notice the mulch cover, do they grow in sphagnum moss?
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Stephen
it its growing in dense vegetation of grass, ferns, dwarf firs, and other herbs. Not wet but damp. It is difficult to see driving along as only the flowers are visible above the greenery
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Tony,what a sight that must be to come across.I can't wait for your report.
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Hello every CypriAddict !
I'am CypriAddict too ;D
My contribution in photo.
Cypripedium formosanum
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08504.JPG)
Cypripedium parviflorum and Cypripedium pubescens
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08515.JPG)
Cypripedium kentuchiense
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08537.JPG)
With flower open
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08687.JPG)
Macro of Cypripedium kentuchiense
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08703.JPG)
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08603.JPG)
Somes buds , in the month of April 2012
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08591.JPG)
Cypripedium henryii
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08584.JPG)
Cyp flavum
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08761.JPG)
Cypripedium parviflorum
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08824.JPG)
Cypripedium reginae
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08819.JPG)
Cypripedium calceolus
(http://galeriedesorchidoux.free.fr/galerieorchidoux/albums/userpics/10041/DSC08879.JPG)
Finaly an nature area ..in Alps ..The Cypripedium calceolus in the wild...Absolutely fabulous
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lbKUNxSW5OY/T_3Nc3ZtQlI/AAAAAAAAAWE/_eO9FuG-M54/s720/DSC09759.JPG)
See you soon
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Now that more and more (new) hybrids become available, prices become more reasonable too. It seems that the roots systems for sale become larger too.
I received this great looking Cypripedium Annegret this week from Germany. The price I paid for this healthy four nosed root system is less than I paid for some other single nosed smaller hybrid a couple of years ago.
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John - I've had the same experience this year.
I bought the hybrid 'Jens' and fasciolatum x segawai this autumn and both arrived as 4 flowering size nose plants like yours.
They were ordered as 2-3 nose plants.
Regards,
David
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Yes, hybrids from Laneside Hardy Orchids I ordered gave the same experience like your's.
I guess there is nothing to complain about this season of delivery isn't it David? I am certainly not :) 8).
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John - this increase in the size of plants offered for sale has been happening for a year or two now, particularly with the hybrids. I'm not complaining!
My plants came from a well known vendor in Wrexham who has a reputation of not being cheap.
His prices have also dropped quite a bit recently,
Regards,
David
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John thats a great looking Cyp, its great when you receive a plant that is better than you were expecting. I have had some good Cyps from them. My cold frame is full and I have been scared to look and see what else there is out there.
I suppose I could always start with another cold frame ;D
Angie :)
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I have noticed the price change of the Wrexham vendor too ;)
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John thats a great looking Cyp,.........
I suppose I could always start with another cold frame ;D
Angie :)
Thanks Angie,
It is an addiction isn't it? Maybe we should come up with a name like the Galantophiles or Croconuts.
"Cypri-addicts" or "Cypriholics" or something ;D?
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I suppose I could always start with another cold frame ;D
You may as well give in to the temptation Angie, you're going to need another cold frame anyway when your current Cyps get bigger and need bigger pots. ::)
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What's the cold frame for? :-\
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Thanks Angie,
It is an addiction isn't it? Maybe we should come up with a name like the Galantophiles or Croconuts.
"Cypri-addicts" or "Cypriholics" or something ;D?
Its Anthony's fault, it's his plants that started my collection, seeing his wonderful plants and knowing that they could grow up here was just the start. And off course he kindly parted with some of his Cypripediums. Thanks Anthony.
John at least we can see the difference in our plants straight away, ok I can hear all you galanthophilies ;)
Peter I bet I have a long way to go before I catch up to you ;D
Anthony cold frame is just somewhere that I can group the pots together. I find if I don't have my pots somewhere out of the wind they just get knocked about and also the pots get really frosted.
Angie :)
ps can someone pm the Wrexham vendor don't know who they are
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I did the same Angie - just an open frame, but I ended up with too many pots, so they spilled out onto the slabbed patio. Any I tried in the greenhouse just died.
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I did the same Angie - just an open frame, but I ended up with too many pots, so they spilled out onto the slabbed patio. Any I tried in the greenhouse just died.
The first few that I purchased I kept them in my greenhouse and I too killed them ;) ;D
Angie :)