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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 11:26:58 AM

Title: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 11:26:58 AM: Following on from a pm conversation with Melvyn last night about the ID of this snowdrop here are some photos and measurements.

height of leaf from where it emerges from the sheath - 14cm
width of leaf at it's widest point 25mm
height of spath tip - 19cm
Leaves convolute
Largest leaf inverse convolute
twin scaped
flower outers 3cm
flower inners 15mm
inner mark 7mm

I'm waiting for a photo of a normal ikariae leaf set of this plants leaf.

How does this plant compare to your G. snogerupii?
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 07:27:08 PM: One more photo

I assume no one grows G. snogerupii
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: emma T on February 24, 2012, 07:58:58 PM: I grow it. It flowered in November and i think i put some pictures of it on the forum
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 08:03:53 PM: I think a few forumists grow it..... there is also this thread with pictures of it in habitat , from Hans J.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1599.0
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 08:06:14 PM: Quote from: emma T on February 24, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
I grow it. It flowered in November and i think i put some pictures of it on the forum
You did indeed, Emma.... here http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8037.msg218276#msg218276
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: ronm on February 24, 2012, 08:10:28 PM: Where can I get one for our wedding anniversary on 21 st April, please?
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 08:18:17 PM: Two photos just in showing G. ikariae against G. ?snogerupii

ikariae on the right of each photo
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 24, 2012, 09:23:22 PM: Mark my friend has a lovely clump but like Emma it finished ages ago.
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 09:25:01 PM: The group beside the rocks was taken today
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: ronm on February 24, 2012, 09:27:46 PM: Shame. Perfect addition to a romantic night in!
Must get a bulb or two for next year ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 09:39:36 PM: It's a great name, isn't it?

From some time ago :

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5002.msg136546#msg136546
Quote from: Tony Willis on February 16, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
Quote from: mark smyth on February 15, 2010, 09:30:26 PM
.... it used to be ikariae ssp snogerupii but it has now become a seperate species

Interesting comment Mark.

In the 'The Genus Galanthus' book Aaron Davies on page162 clearly states there is no basis for this, having examined populations in the wild and seen their variability. I wonder where it was published and what new information has become available.Perhaps we are moving towards the publication of another expensive revised edition!

Plant list gives :http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-307552
Galanthus ikariae subsp. snogerupii Kamari is a synonym of Galanthus ikariae Baker

This name is a synonym of Galanthus ikariae Baker.

The record derives from WCSP which reports it as a synonym (record 307552) with original publication details: Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 103: 124 1982.

Full publication details for this name can be found in IPNI: urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:916999-1.
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 25, 2012, 10:51:49 PM: Marcus Harvey in Tasmania offered it for sale a few years ago, maybe 5. As a ssp of ikariae it is permitted here but I LOST MINE >:( :'( under heavy, overgrown grass. I FEEL VERY BAD ABOUT IT. ??? >:( :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Paul T on March 18, 2012, 05:16:59 AM: I grow it here too, originally from Marcus. It definitely does look a lot like ikariae, but I find it a bit better proportioned. The leaves I find are a bit distinctive too. Very floriferous, and multiplying fairly well.

I'd grow it for the name alone. ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 18, 2012, 10:34:46 AM: If it's a form of ikariae it shouldn't flower in November, but must do strange things in the UK? In its normal habitat it flowers in the spring.
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 18, 2012, 11:54:42 PM: It was for the name alone that I bought it Paul. Must see if Marcus can oblige again. ???
Title: Re: Galanthus snogerupii
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 19, 2012, 12:28:25 AM: It grows in damp shady situations. I wonder if it would grow here? It's damp and shady today! :)