Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: hochu on February 19, 2012, 03:15:29 PM
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I want to show their first success in the selection Scilla sibirica. This is the result of crosses white and lilac forms.
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A scilla from Lebanon with its first flower: scilla libanotica
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May I ask, is Scilla gorganica still a recognised species and is it still in cultivation?
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I don't know if there was an name change.
I still grow the pale blue one. I think Janis has the white one.
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Thank you Luc. I have been searching around and can find very little reference to it anywhere. I thought I read somewhere that it had been moved out of Scilla, but I cannot re-find where I read that :-[.
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Thank you Luc. I have been searching around and can find very little reference to it anywhere. I thought I read somewhere that it had been moved out of Scilla, but I cannot re-find where I read that :-[.
Ron, the place to look is The Plant List (http://www.theplantlist.org/)
Scilla gorganica, S greilhuberi, S hohenackeri, and a few others are now in Fessia (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=fessia) although I have not seen many people using this new genera
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Ah, yes Fessia. Thanks very much for the lead and the information Diane.
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I was searching for an ID for this one....We have seen this Scilla in NE Turkey on Kaçkar Mts near Ayder . I think the height was around 2300m .
Many thanks.
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Kris, nice upward facing scilla :D
Here are Scilla ingridiae, from JJA Seeds. Ex. a N. Stevens coll. Turkey, SE of Kahramanmaras (according to the seed list descriptions). The last pic is with S. armena. Last season, Janis mentioned this S. ingridiae something like S. armena, so I bought an armena bulb from him for a comparison ;)
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Kris
I think Tatsuo has provided your answer :)
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Me? ??? ??? ???
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Where and how do you grow all your little treasures YT ?
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Nicole, I grow my living gems at around here ;) ;D
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8490.msg232844#msg232844
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What a lucky "fellow" you are ;D ! Thank you Tatsuo ;)
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:D :D That Janis sure is a great salesman! ;D ;D ;D
Lovely growing YT, 8)
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Scilla bifolia is opening apace this week for me.
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Kris
I think Tatsuo has provided your answer :)
I was thinking on S.armena Arthur , but now .......
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Scilla bifolia is opening apace this week for me.
Fred is that the pink form,i am colour blind and can't quite pick out the shade.
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Yes Dave, it's pink ;D
I have the blue too but that needs a better pic 8)
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Now renamed as Oziroe biflora rosea.
This was Chionodoxa but is now Scilla luciliae Valentine's Day, only a week late.
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Now renamed as Oziroe biflora rosea.
I think there's a mixup here. The name Scilla bifolia is still OK, in all its colour forms (phew!).
Scilla biflora is now Oziroe biflora. Oziroe is a South American genus.
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Thanks Diane, my age is beginning to show.
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A first time flowering for me.
I like it ;D
Scilla bithynica
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I like it too Fred ;D
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I was searching for an ID for this one....We have seen this Scilla in NE Turkey on Kaçkar Mts near Ayder . I think the height was around 2300m .
Many thanks.
Scilla armena.
Janis
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Scilla ingridae ( seeds collect in Turkey before many years )
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Two stocks of Scilla winogradowii - my favourite Scilla.
Janis
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Scilla peruviana
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Janis,
I can see why, with the lovely dark stem in combination with those beautiful striped flowers. The flowers themselves remind me of Scilla tubergeniana (syn mischtschenkoana), but taller and with that wonderful dark stem. Very nice, and new to me. Thanks.
And thanks to all the others posting. Some wonderful Scilla in here, that is for sure. So many to choose from. 8)
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Scilla bithynica revisited 11 days later ;D
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Fred i am so impressed with your bulb collection ;D I will be over soon i have few to add to your collection ;D
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Two stocks of Scilla winogradowii - my favourite Scilla.
Janis
Janis, have you changed your mind?
As far as I can see, this years Scilla-thread is still a bit short.
All the more I am delighted by your photos of this marvellous Scilla!
Thank you!
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Where is S.gorganica , that beautiful flower shown in Janis's book?
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Scilla bithynica
Beware Fred it can be invasive if you don't remove the seed pods
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Can't remember which Scilla this is. Possibly sibirica ssp armena?
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Not sure where to put these
Chionoscilla x allenii
Chionodoxa - not sure if it is a species or hybrid
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Scilla bifolia - The best pink form known to me which I got from Chriss Brickell and named as 'Chris' Favourite'.
Scilla libanotica from Wallis aand as last
two pictures of most likely new scilla found by Arnis in Hustup (Armenia?)
Janis
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What a intense flower colour of your new scilla, Janis :o 8) 8)
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....... and as last two pictures of most likely new scilla found by Arnis in Hustup (Armenia?)
That's a very good deep blue, MrsG will be after that one ;D
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....... and as last two pictures of most likely new scilla found by Arnis in Hustup (Armenia?)
You have mentioned the variation in colour over different climatic conditions, Janis.
Here is a comparison to the new Scilla from 2010...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5157.msg144813#msg144813
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....... and as last two pictures of most likely new scilla found by Arnis in Hustup (Armenia?)
You have mentioned the variation in colour over different climatic conditions, Janis.
Here is a comparison to the new Scilla from 2010...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5157.msg144813#msg144813
Yes Maggi, comparing both you can see that flowers this year are darker, but leaves paler. It depends mostly from temperature. Of course the light at picturing moment makes some corrections, too. Today is cloudy, cold and no sun at all.
Janis
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Roma,
Is that white Scilla bythinica, or another species mixed in. If white, I'm guessing I've missed the fact that there is a white form. ??? It looks great.
Janis,
Great colours, definitely as you say a great pink, and that deep blue is brilliant. Colour reminds me of sibirica ssp taurii, but shape isn't right. Thanks for showing us.
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Yes, Paul that is a white Scilla bithynica. I started off with a group of white and group of blue but they have been self seeding and are getting mixed now. They were growing under raspberry plants but I have removed the rasps and have yet to decide where I am putting the Scilla when I rearrange that part of the garden. One thing for sure they are not to be allowed near where I have most of my ornamental plants. Crocus pulchellus, Lilium martagon and Tulipa sprengeri are enough bulbous 'weeds' for that area
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Scilla bythinica and Lilium martagon are the kind of weeds I wouldn't object to ;D
Particularly when S. bythinica is a white form.
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two Scilla from south of Italy
Scilla dimartinoi
Scilla peruviana (it's a very dark blue form)
both are sweetly scented
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Fred i am so impressed with your bulb collection ;D I will be over soon i have few to add to your collection ;D
Not entirely correct.
I went over there, the second part is certainly correct as this new hernia will vouch ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Scilla bythinica and Lilium martagon are the kind of weeds I wouldn't object to ;D
Particularly when S. bythinica is a white form.
I agree Fred. I don't mind if my normal bythinca becomes a little weedy, but I'd love it even more if it were a white I think. ;D One man (or woman)'s weed is another man (or woman)'s treasure!! 8)
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My best S. armena (by colour) and Scilla khorasanica.
Janis
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Both looking lovely Janis, but the S. khorasanica, very very nice. :o :o :o
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Very nice, Janis!
Just a little question:
Last year, you wrote about your remaining seedlings of your scilla gorganica. How are they doing? Did they flower this year?
And if so, how were the flowers colored?
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Some forms of Scilla sibirica.
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To be continued ... :)
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Very nice indeed Alex
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Thank you David! Even Scilla sibirica ...
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Thank you David! Even Scilla sibirica ...
Very impressive, Alex!
What a wide variation for scilla siberica!
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Yes Boyed! But I had to work around some 10 hectares of forest :)
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A British native ;D
Scilla verna
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The late blooming Scilla litardierei now starting in my garden.
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Today it's Scilla scilloides DJH#277 from Heronswood in 1996.
johnw
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Smart species John ;)
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I'd say that was a Scilla with attitude John ;)
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Scilla/Prospero intermedia and autumnale are flowering today.
Poul
See reply below...
Ups!
I just found out that it was not Scilla intermedia (or more correct Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium) that I showed in a previous post :-[. It is Barnardia numidica (Scilla numidica). Here are the pics with correct names.
Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium has just poked through the gravel. I will post a pic when it is in flower. To my excuse its flowers are very similar to Barnardia numidica's.
Poul
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So many nice species in this genus... ::) Thanks for sharing all this pics with us, but now I'm envious of each of them ::)
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Scilla/Prospero intermedia and autumnale are flowering today.
Poul
This is really early Poul, i still have to wait until October!
By the way Scilla intermedia is now Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium,
one of these cases where name is longer than the plant itself...
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So many nice species in this genus... ::) Thanks for sharing all this pics with us, but now I'm envious of each of them ::)
Yes, there are many nice species and I find most of them easy to grow. Nicole, if you are interested, I have spare bulbs (or seeds) of many of them. Unfortunately they are in growth now so you have to wait until next year.
Poul
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This is really early Paul, i still have to wait until October!
By the way Scilla intermedia is now Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium,
one of these cases where name is longer than the plant itself...
Yes, it is earlier than normal. But autumn comes earlier here in the north, so it is not extraordinary.
We had a hot and dry May followed by a relative cold and rainy July, so now many of the bulbs think it's autumn.
Thanks for the name correction!
Poul
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I'll wait, I can absolutely wait for them Poul ;D
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Ups!
I just found out that it was not Scilla intermedia (or more correct Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium) that I showed in a previous post :-[. It is Barnardia numidica (Scilla numidica). Here are the pics with correct names.
Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium has just poked through the gravel. I will post a pic when it is in flower. To my excuse its flowers are very similar to Barnardia numidica's.
Poul
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Wow Poul that looks quite an impressive Scilla. This was the best we managed when we had the bulbs. This is a 3 inch pot.
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Wow Poul that looks quite an impressive Scilla. This was the best we managed when we had the bulbs. This is a 3 inch pot.
Thank you Shelagh, but yours have a very nice, deep colour!
I grow mine in a 10 cm square pot, and it seem quite happy. I have only a poor pic to show how it look now, but here it is.
Poul
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Prospero obtusifolium subsp. intermedium (former Scilla intermedia)
Poul
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Prospero obtusifolium subsp. Intermedium today
Poul
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Nice to look at them flowering ;)
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A couple of spring scillas
Scilla melaina
Scilla bithynica
cheers
fermi
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Fermi, nice to see some less common spring flowering Scillas!
Scilla lingulata ciliolate is flowering now in the northern hemisphere.
Poul
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Pehe, your bulb season is getting into speed very well!
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I got this from Garry Reid, a "local" bulb seller, as a dwarf form of Scilla natalensis back in 2004 - it was potted and unfortunately started to rot! I planted it out in a raised bed and it has slowly recovered and has now come into flower.
I presume it is Merwilla dracomontana but the foliage is rather narrow and the only pic I can find on the interweb shows broad foliage.
What do others think?
cheers
fermi
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Now its bigger "brother" (or "sister"!) is in bloom,
Merwilla plumbea (syn Scilla natalensis)
cheers
fermi
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Prospero autumnalis 'Album' is also in flower at the moment.
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Very nice, Oron. Is it as delicate as it looks?
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Oron comes this one true from seed ?
Roland
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Paul,
It just looks delicate, i find Prospero autumnale to be a tough plant.
Roland
It does come true from seeds if i manage to isolate it, but quite difficult for me as i grow many forms.
Any way i collect the seeds, the Albino form is recognised from the first year as the leaves have a different color which is unusual bright green.
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Well maybe one day if you have a few spare seeds
we can swap some
Roland