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Cultivation => Cultivation Problems => Topic started by: Claire Cockcroft on January 17, 2012, 06:19:44 PM
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I grow Anemonopsis macrophylla well enough to get flowers and seed set but I don't think I do a particularly good job of it. I have a nice pot of seedlings planted last year and I just received seed of a couple of special forms. Can someone offer advice on how to grow Anemonopsis well? Planning for the spring is a good way to forget about today's snow, sleet, and generally miserable conditions.
Thanks.
Claire
Bellevue, Washington
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Your weather sounds horrible, Claire... worse than here!
There have been several mentions of this pretty plant in the Forum.... here is a list of links, with the names of the Forumists growing it.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5921.msg165060;topicseen#msg165060
Gerry Webster and Rodger Whitlock
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7378.msg206312;topicseen#msg206312
Wim
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7532.msg208095;topicseen#msg208095
Wim
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4196.msg168464;topicseen#msg168464
Tetsuo
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3968.msg106586;topicseen#msg106586
Lori Skulski
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3784.msg101172;topicseen#msg101172
Wim
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5843.msg162103;topicseen#msg162103
The Onion Man
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=822.0
Martin R
(Source mentioned : http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5135.0)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2069.msg51631;topicseen#msg51631
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6242.0 Kristl Walek
There may be some help for you there!
edited because I missed some out .
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The obvious but not very helpful answer is that it depends upon your location. ;D
I can only say that it grows well for me in dappled shade in sandy not too fertile humusy soil under hazels. Usually I need to water in late spring early summer because that is the driest season here. the drainage is good because it sits on a slope. It seems to be perfectly frost hardy here and I have colder winters than you have in WA.
Good luck with them
Göte
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I have to agree completely with Göte, Claire.
Here it grows well in shade under a Cherry tree (the normal form) and under a common walnut (the white form). It grows in soil with good drainage (our local sandy soil mixed with leafmould) and get's watered in summer (when it would be too dry for them to thrive). But I have to say that it took about 3 years for them to start growing well. This year they both set seeds quite well! Perfectly hardy here too, but my climate is warmer than Göte's so...
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I lost all my Anemonopsis plants last winter when we first had very cold weather (for us) in November and December, then a rather mild and wet January and part of February followed by very cold weather in the last part of February and nil snow cover. The previous winter was cold too but more stable cold throughout the season and snow cower all winter.
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Thank you, Maggi, for the links. I noted the issue of sun burn and also the drainage requirement. My soil is creek bottom clay that's been heavily amended with arborist's shreddings, so I'll have to look for spots with the best drainage.
After a very mild and dry start to winter, we're having a good dose of reality. It seems appropriate that this little Julie primula is named 'Snow White'.
...0 degrees C and sleet/snow/rain mix off and on all day
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I've only lost Anemonopsis in summer dry. I have a nasty feeling I may also have lost Primula 'Snow White' too. After a very little rain last week (the weeds have been rejuvenated) we are again cooking.
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Well I won't be any help for your question Claire.
You seem to be doing better growing yours than I have been mine, I'd love to have flowers and seed. I've only had foliage each year since planting in 2007. Mine is planted in a raised be in the shade garden. I'll be checking out all of Maggie's links. :)
The weather here is the same as yours - yucky cold, snow and miserable. Doesn't sound like any improvement - forecast for overnight is "Winter storm warning - significant snow accumulation". :(
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Hi Claire,
In the wild, Anemonopsis macrophylla grows only in the subalpine zones with relatively high humidity at around 1000 m above sea level under deciduous forests in northeast Japan.
They don't like direct sun at all and they should be planted in humus-rich but well-drained soil. They don't like to be dried out (or over-soaked) and are relatively cold hardy but they won't tolerate a hard freeze either. They don't need a lot of fertilizer but do need a little, otherwise they will be slow to mature, so give them slow-release fertilizer in mid-April and September, and give a weak liquid fertilizer twice in April/May, and again in September/October.
I'd be happy to chat more at our next chapter meeting. :)
Here is a link with some good pictures of Anemonopsis macrophylla in the wild. Hope it helps!
http://sikisansaku.sakura.ne.jp/232_mitake/hana/0608.html
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Thank you for the link Peppa
Such beautiful graceful flowers - I'll be giving mine a little boost at your suggested appropriate times.
Julie
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Peppa
that is a very good link.
I find that it grows easily in rich moist soil and last winters freeze to -7c did it no harm but a day in the sun burns the leaves of. I am waiting to see if the seeds of 'White swan' germinate.
I see from the map you live in the middle of the freeway ,how is that for growing conditions? :)
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I see from the map you live in the middle of the freeway ,how is that for growing conditions? :)
As long as you are agile, it's not too bad. :P ;D
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I see from the map you live in the middle of the freeway ,how is that for growing conditions? :)
As long as you are agile, it's not too bad. :P ;D
;D ;D ;D
I expect the traffic makes for constant air movement, so not too much botrytis to worry about? I believe that traffic fumes kill 99 per cent of all garden pests, too. Worry that it might kill the gardeners as well, though...... ::) :-X
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They may not get deep freezes in their natural habitat, but none of mine were damaged last winter, they survived -20C with no snow cover both in pots and in the garden. (I did however loose every single Asteropyrum :P )
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They may not get deep freezes in their natural habitat, but none of mine were damaged last winter, they survived -20C with no snow cover both in pots and in the garden. (I did however loose every single Asteropyrum :P )
I assumed they were killed by the winter but it could have been slugs in early spring too although I didn't spot many last spring. Glad I hadn't any Asteropyrum to loose ;)
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I doubt that hardiness is the issue---my very large Anemonopsis colony back in Ontario certainly did fine with lows to -35C or colder and with often, no snow cover. Usually frozen rock solid.
BUT my plants *always* struggled in the hot, dry and humid summers, even though they grew in the best woodland conditions I was able to provide (good, rich soil, moist but well drained, etc. etc.) I had to water them almost non-stop during the summer to keep the foliage from becoming crunchy and even retreating underground, even though they were in high shade. By flowering time, if I was lucky, I could count on 30-50% of the plants flowering---only the ones that had not been weakened by all the heat and humidity that never abated, even at night. Even my succulents had problems in that climate as their CAM mechanism (which needed some relief from the heat at night) could never get it.
I brought a large colony of them with me when I moved here to Nova Scotia---where they have thrived from the minute they got planted. In the beginning this was not even in proper soil---they were literally just heeled in the existing sandy soil as I was just building new woodland gardens from bare lawn. Soil here is very acidic--back in Ontario was very alkaline. As I have begun to improve the soil conditions to rich, humousy, I have actually not noticed much change in their health, which is interesting.
They are also now in a maritime climate, with plenty of natural moisture in the air and cool summers. Even when it is hot during the day, it always cools down at night. The level of heat and humidity is nothing compared to Ontario. What I find the most difficult is figuring out how to grow them to best effect in the garden---as I find them very difficult to place right aesthetically.
I would have guessed that being in Washington State, your weather, at least, might be similar to that here.
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CAM = Crassulacean acid metabolism
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e32/32f.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassulacean_acid_metabolism
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Maggi - thank you for always being on top of things. Thank you for the links - very interesting information.
Kristl - Nice to know they shouldn't freeze to death. I'm hoping my plants will bloom this year. Our summers can sometimes have quite long dry periods, but night time temps are usually cool. Right now we are receiving plenty of the wet stuff.
Peppa and Claire are both in the northern part of the state where they've had a quite a bit of snow/ice and power outages. I'm certainly glad to be missing out.