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Title: Latin name confusion
Post by: Peppa on January 11, 2012, 07:11:36 AM
Hi all,

I hope that this is the right place to post this.... if not, please let me know, and I'll move it.

I have a little Latin name confusion. When we talk about Semiaquilegia/Aquilegia, I'm curious where the species adoxoides is classified. In Japan, the plant is called 'ヒメウズ', and some sites give them the Latin name Semiaquilegia adoxoides http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=3&taxon_id=200008166, but I have seen others that refer to the plant as simply Aquilegia adoxoides. I went to the Kew Gardens' nomenclatural search page that Gerry kindly recommended to me (as related to a different topic), but neither is listed. I have found some references, http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/1999-October/033878.html, but this specific thread was from more than ten years ago. Does anyone happen to know what the acceptable name happens to be currently?

Thanks very much!
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 11, 2012, 07:53:48 AM
You could try asking "Mr Aquilegia" AKA Bob Nold on the NARGS Forum!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Peppa on January 12, 2012, 07:25:14 AM
Thanks, fermi, for the reference! That sounds like the way to go! ;D
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Gerry Webster on January 12, 2012, 10:11:36 AM
Peppa - try having a look at 'The Plant List' here:

http://www.theplantlist.org/

The Kew list to which I previously referred you is only for Monocots.
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 12, 2012, 02:22:26 PM
I would agree Gerry, just taking a look at The Plant List, and the summary that Hubert Agback put together in that 10-year old Alpine-L message, the names and synonymy are in agreement with The Plant List.
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 12, 2012, 08:59:09 PM
Bob Nold is also Mr Penstemon, isn't he?
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Maggi Young on January 12, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
Bob Nold is also Mr Penstemon, isn't he?
He is indeed, having a book on that genus under his belt, as well as "Columbines: Aquilegia, Paraquilegia, and Semiaquilegia"  and "High and Dry: Gardening with Cold-Hardy Dryland Plants"
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Maren on January 12, 2012, 10:44:57 PM
This is listed on the International Plant Names Index (IPNI) as
# Ranunculaceae Aquilegia adoxoides (DC.) Ohwi -- Bull. Natl. Sci. Mus., Tokyo No. 33, 72 (1953). (IK)

and

# Ranunculaceae Aquilegia adoxoides (DC.) Ohwi -- Fl. Jap. [Ohwi] 533. 1953 (IK)

The IPNI is maintained by the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 13, 2012, 12:15:21 AM
The important thing to know about IPNI.ORG, it is a great resource to find published latin binomials; hardly a day goes by where I don't use this resource.  However, it is not a resource to find out about accepted taxonomy and synonymy; IPNI.ORG is neutral on that aspect.  One must attempt to find consensus among taxonomic authorities, such as The Plant List, Tropicos, and floras governing in areas where the subject plant species is native, things like the online Flora of North America or Flora of China, etc.  

The epithet "Aquilegia adoxoides" is a synonym of Semiaquilegia adoxoides.  

In the Flora of China (and in The Plant List & Tropicos), Semiaquilegia is regarded as a valid monotypic genus containing just Semiaquilegia adoxoides from China, Japan, Korea.  All current taxonomic resources agree on its status:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=130061
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008166
http://www.theplantlist.org/browse/A/Ranunculaceae/Semiaquilegia/
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/50164388?tab=acceptednames
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/27105108?tab=synonyms

Semiaquilegia adoxoides, new record found in Taiwan:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=semiaquilegia%20adoxoides%20japan&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftesri.coa.gov.tw%2Fhtmlarea_file%2Fweb_articles%2Ftesri%2F1730%2F00164%2520%2520Semiaquilegia%2520adoxoides.pdf&ei=-HcPT5DVLcTy0gH6v8ylAw&usg=AFQjCNEumCsCTL1_2haQKy57TXJcEorDgg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=semiaquilegia%20adoxoides%20japan&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftesri.coa.gov.tw%2Fhtmlarea_file%2Fweb_articles%2Ftesri%2F1730%2F00164%2520%2520Semiaquilegia%2520adoxoides.pdf&ei=-HcPT5DVLcTy0gH6v8ylAw&usg=AFQjCNEumCsCTL1_2haQKy57TXJcEorDgg)
...another version with some photos:
http://tai2.ntu.edu.tw/taiwania/pdf/tai.2004.49.1.44.pdf

A view of the root:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:Semiaquilegia_adoxoides_root.jpeg (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:Semiaquilegia_adoxoides_root.jpeg)

Small photo of the flower, taken in Korea:
http://www.asianflora.com/Ranunculaceae/Semiaquilegia-adoxoides.htm
...and a much better close-up of the flower:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nalgae/2432950225/
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Peppa on January 14, 2012, 03:33:09 AM
Thanks everyone for the great information!

The Kew list to which I previously referred you is only for Monocots.

Gerry, thanks for the link again! I wasn't actually familiar with the English term 'monocot,' but once I took a look at my English/Japanese dictionary I realized what it meant... :)

Hi Mark, thanks for all the info and for taking the time to list all these resources for me. It very helpful and I really appreciate it!

Maren, I saw several sites that listed the plant as Aquilegia adoxoides as well; that's why I was originally confused...thanks so much for helping me figure this out!

Thanks again to everyone for all your help

Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 14, 2012, 09:47:03 PM
My little brother was most confused when I told him the potato plant wasn't Smoothinox fluffyflora. ::)
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Peppa on January 14, 2012, 11:05:39 PM
My little brother was most confused when I told him the potato plant wasn't Smoothinox fluffyflora. ::)
My dictionary didn't have that specific Latin term. Must be Martian.  ;)
Title: Re: Latin name confusion
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 15, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
My little brother was most confused when I told him the potato plant wasn't Smoothinox fluffyflora. ::)
Crispiskinia fluffyinteria
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