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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Hans A. on January 03, 2012, 09:58:19 PM
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Not typical rock garden plants, but as they are still flowering in the garden... ;)
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My goodness... in January! That shocks me, even for the Balearic Islands! :o
This summer was so useless I got only ONE flower open on the lilies in my pond ONE!!!
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I was also very surprised to see them still flowering, hope they all will survive the next months as this is a testplanting with tropical varieties (balearic islands are not very cold, but still far away from beeing tropical ::)).
One flower is not the best result, did you try the fantastic scottish native N. alba var. minor? I remember to have seen it in ponds of the Inner and Outer Hebrides, they were quite floriferous.
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It IS the Scottish native ! Grown from a little one taken from a lochan on a relatives farm many many moons ago.... you'd think it would be more cooperative!
Must admit that the site of my pond is too heavily shaded.... :'(
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I took this photograph two days ago, on 2nd January. It's not my garden but the front garden of a neighbour just down the road. The house wall at the back faces North West and there is a brick boundary wall extending forward to the right, mostly out of shot. So it's quite a sheltered location, won't get any sun until late afternoon but the other side of the boundary wall will get sun and perhaps that keeps the area warm. Anyway, for whatever reason we have leucojum aestivum and ipheon in full flower.
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Just been outside to photograph a snowdrop but thought I would cheer David up, here is Daphne 'Jacqueline Postill' just a year or two older than yours I think. I hope yours is now flowering for you this year?
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Funny you should post that today Brian. I've just been out in the garden for the first time for ages (more remedial fence repairs) and noticed my "Jacqueline Postill" has four little flower clumps on it. All four are at the back of the plant (where until earlier this week there was a fence panel!) and I hadn't noticed them. None at all at the front of the plant, but I'm thankful for small mercies ;D If we have have a day soon when I can go out without being blown over I'll try to get a pic.
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I am jealous! My very pretty specimen of "Jacqueline Postill" succumbed to death in the very harsh last winter :(
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Daphne 'Jacqueline Postill' seems to be in a long and lingering death here, looking perfectly miserable but still struggling to put out a few flowers. The last two winters have really punished it; such a pity as it is about eight feet tall and had looked well for many years.
Paddy
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Daphne 'Jacqueline Postill' seems to be in a long and lingering death here, looking perfectly miserable but still struggling to put out a few flowers. The last two winters have really punished it; such a pity as it is about eight feet tall and had looked well for many years.
Paddy
Mine is getting a bit out of control. About 10 ft tall and 6ft wide. Still flowers reasonably well, but not as heavily as when young. I'm going to try Michael's advice and cut it back after flowering this spring. Also have a couple of dozen seedlings from it that really need potting up so they'll grow on to flowering size. Be interesting to see how they differ.
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Glad yours is flowering David, next year it will probably be covered.
Martin, mine was a present from Richard Hobbs, he'd cut his back and it sent out one or two suckers, this is one. Perhaps you should try that too Paddy? Commiserations to you Hoy, you must be missing the scent.
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Glad yours is flowering David, next year it will probably be covered.
Martin, mine was a present from Richard Hobbs, he'd cut his back and it sent out one or two suckers, this is one. Perhaps you should try that too Paddy? Commiserations to you Hoy, you must be missing the scent.
Thanks Brian, yes I do! I am looking for a new one! I had two different cultivars bought from Glendoick some years ago. I think theirs succumbed last winter too.
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Brian, there are some suckers already growing around the plant and I think it might be worthwhile simply cutting the main plant back to the ground. We'll see.
Paddy
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Hamamelis 'Ruby Glow' starts flowering. :D
(http://666kb.com/i/c05dhzo81paonyfyc.jpg)
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looks very promising Emma. i do like this one, very nice :)
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A few for foliage in the garden today. Could be a very chilly night.
johnw
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Scrumptious shortias John. I've at last potted up your babies, 42 of them! ;D
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Scrumptious shortias John. I've at last potted up your babies, 42 of them! ;D
Time we visited the family planning workshops Lesley. ;)
johnw
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Seems a bit late for that! :o
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Today flowering in the garden:
. Clematis cirrhosa var. balearica: This winter-flowering Majorcan clematis has fragrant, creamy-white flowers speckled inside with reddish-maroon 'freckles' and bronze-tinted evergreen leaves. Best planted against a sunny wall.
. Corydalis ledebouriana: Flowers are purple to violet with a pale pink to white spur bloom in January/March above compact mounds of glaucous foliage. Native to Central Asia. A plant for a well-drained, sunny soil and avoid too much moist in summer.
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Today flowering in the garden:
. Clematis cirrhosa var. balearica: This winter-flowering Majorcan clematis has fragrant, creamy-white flowers speckled inside with reddish-maroon 'freckles' and bronze-tinted evergreen leaves. Best planted against a sunny wall.
. Corydalis ledebouriana: Flowers are purple to violet with a pale pink to white spur bloom in January/March above compact mounds of glaucous foliage. Native to Central Asia. A plant for a well-drained, sunny soil and avoid too much moist in summer.
Love the Clematis. Providing a sunny wall here might be too difficult...... :'( :'(
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Helleborus ballard hyb.
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At this moment I have Hepatica nobilis, Primula veris :o and Dianthus gallicus :o :o :o (one flower though..) in flower. Never seen this before. It strikes me that these plants are from warmer area's than they are living here in my garden/pots (P. veris is a clone from Dordogne, France). The species I grow from colder area's are not showing any signs of early growth or flowering. I'm puzzling if there's a reason for this difference???
Any idea's?
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At this moment I have Hepatica nobilis, Primula veris :o and Dianthus gallicus :o :o :o (one flower though..) in flower. Never seen this before. It strikes me that these plants are from warmer area's than they are living here in my garden/pots (P. veris is a clone from Dordogne, France). The species I grow from colder area's are not showing any signs of early growth or flowering. I'm puzzling if there's a reason for this difference???
Any idea's?
Yes, that's quite naturally. Plants i.e. from Norway isn't that easy to fool - I mean, they can't be awakened too early in the spring because the possibility of frost and snow later in the year is very high. It is not only the temperature that has effect on germination/sprouting but the length of the day too.
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At this moment I have Hepatica nobilis, Primula veris :o and Dianthus gallicus :o :o :o (one flower though..) in flower. Never seen this before. It strikes me that these plants are from warmer area's than they are living here in my garden/pots (P. veris is a clone from Dordogne, France). The species I grow from colder area's are not showing any signs of early growth or flowering. I'm puzzling if there's a reason for this difference???
Any idea's?
Yes, that's quite naturally. Plants i.e. from Norway isn't that easy to fool - I mean, they can't be waked too early in the spring because the possibility of frost and snow later in the year is very high. It is not only the temperature that has effect on germination/sprouting but the length of the day too.
That makes sense. So the consequesces of dying for southern/warmer area plants are less severe than for northern/colder plants. Thus relying on daylength rather than temperature is necessary for colder area plants. Thanks for the insight!
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Yes, quite so!
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An unusual occurence on two counts. There are three very early flowers on this Gentiana acaulis but all of them have unusual white tips to the petals. The first photo is of the patch in the spring showing no white tips and the second is the open flower now with the white tips. The three flowers have appeared at different points in the group, (only one open - two still in bud). I can only think that it has something to do with the weather. I dead head the plants so no chance of seed production to create a new variety.
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Hi all thank you for all the pictures they give us hope for spring. We have super blue skies but very hard frost overnight, I post two pictures of adonis amurensis, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Graham - my question is the other way round from Hans. We have a few flowers on Gentiana acaulis at the moment but how on earth do you get such wonderful flowering in the spring? Is it something to do with the cooler days of the north? Silene acaulis also only flowers very poorly compared to the wonderfully free-flowering cushions one sees in the mountains.
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I can only think that it has something to do with the weather. I dead head the plants so no chance of seed production to create a new variety.
You could always take a cutting or two from the growth area where the white-tipped flowers are and if it happens to be a sport, preserve it that way, but like you, I suspect it is probably weather-related.
Re cooler days in the north for better flowering of Gent. acaulis, I suspect it is more related to planting conditions or to the particular seedling/clone that Graham grows. I have a lot warmer here than in Scotland (sorry) and get superb flowering on G. acaulis every spring, a few in the autumn as well. Mine is in a raised bed with a lot of grit but also humus and in most years gets well watered which I think has a lot to do with it. It's been in the same place for 12 years now and gets a bit of Osmacote 9 months thrown at it from time to time.
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Tim,
I really have no idea why it does so well. Other than it has been undisturbed for over five years. The top 5cm is quite humus rich but below that it is quite heavy not sure of the composition. Lesley seems to refute the idea it could be summer weather related.
Lesley,
I will see what some cuttings produce.
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Thanks Lesley - watering sounds a good possibilty since we do get very dry here and I rarely water unless we have long spells without rain. Gentiana acaulis is such a wonderful plant when flowering well that I think shall I try harder and grow it in a number of different places.
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Graham, why do you dead head the gentian? I know they're a bit tatty to start with but as the seeds swell, they're quite attractive, especially in quantity, and something for the seedlist. :D Leaving them on seems to make no difference to how many flowers there are next time. Last year I picked nearly half a cupful of seed!
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Frosty foliage
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Frosty foliage
It looks familiar Roma . Here also some frost but this is the first frost of this winter ....
But during day a blue sky and a lot of sun ....Tomorrow the dream already has to finish ...again some rain and warmer temperatures..
Some pics of the sunny weekend.
Dionysia aretioides x archibaldii
Dionysia 'Judith Bramley'
Ranunculus calendrinioides in bud
Tristagma sellowianum
Narcissus romieuxii
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Graham, why do you dead head the gentian? I know they're a bit tatty to start with but as the seeds swell, they're quite attractive, especially in quantity, and something for the seedlist. :D Leaving them on seems to make no difference to how many flowers there are next time. Last year I picked nearly half a cupful of seed!
But Lesley they would make the garden look untidy ;D I know I should collect seed for the seed exchange but I just find it difficult to see things going over and looking untidy. I am happy to let some go over if anyone asks for seed in time :)
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I took these pictures a couple of days ago and the plants have a lot more flowers now I counted 25 on each.
They are Cyclamen elegans X alpinum and the other IS NOT but is labelled Cyclamen coum albissimum 'Golan Heights' which when I looked it up is white so who knows what this one is. Sorry the pictures aren't better.
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Nice to see what you all have blooming.
The first of the Iris (reticulata?) emerged yesterday.............
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g430/longk48/DSC_1703.jpg)
Good news is that the flower buds on both of my Clianthus puniceus are unaffected by the recent frosts.
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The spring is more advanced at your place, Melanie!
Here a cold spell has set in with clear but freezing weather. The emerging Crocuses awaits more sun to open their flowers.
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Looks like they still have their overcoats on Hoy.
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Looks like they still have their overcoats on Hoy.
Oh yeah, they need it dearly. Much rain, hail, sleet and almost no sun the last weeks! Seems we get a week with more sun but colder temps too! I can't think of any reason they wanted to leave the safe soil at all ;)
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Crocus 'Firefly' in by greenhouse & cyclamen coum in the garden. My first iris has its nose through, but not in bloom yet. Your cyclamen are lovely, Shelagh.
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Cracking coum,Christine 8)
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Thanks Maggi. If only I could do the same in a pot..... I am so envious of people who can grow them so they show nicely....
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Thanks Maggi. If only I could do the same in a pot..... I am so envious of people who can grow them so they show nicely....
I prefere to grow all my hardy plants outside in the garden! I have no wish for more pots! They are reserved tropical and sub tropical plants ;)
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Frosty foliage
It looks familiar Roma . Here also some frost but this is the first frost of this winter ....
But during day a blue sky and a lot of sun ....Tomorrow the dream already has to finish ...again some rain and warmer temperatures..
Some pics of the sunny weekend.
Dionysia aretioides x archibaldii
Dionysia 'Judith Bramley'
Ranunculus calendrinioides in bud
Tristagma sellowianum
Narcissus romieuxii
Kris your Tristagma looks fantastic can't for my seedlings to flower.
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Chris thats a smashing cyclamen coum 8)
Angie :)
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Thanks Angi :)
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Cyclamen coum so far are not flowering brilliantly for us but there are some marvellous forms I have had from Tilebarn Nursery, including these two forms. The third photo shows a unique form of hederifolium again from Tilebarn, with an early flower spike of one of the loveliest of muscaris, M. pseudomuscari (chalusicum). And finally a Corydalis new to me, quantmeyeriana 'Chocolate Stars' (from our autumn visit to Edrom Nursery), growing with cyclamen and Astelia nervosa.
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Cyclamen coum so far are not flowering brilliantly for us but there are some marvellous forms I have had from Tilebarn Nursery, including these two forms. The third photo shows a unique form of hederifolium again from Tilebarn, with an early flower spike of one of the loveliest of muscaris, M. pseudomuscari (chalusicum). And finally a Corydalis new to me, quantmeyeriana 'Chocolate Stars' (from our autumn visit to Edrom Nursery), growing with cyclamen and Astelia nervosa.
Superb Cyclamen coum Tim .The first one has nice leaves with very good silvers and good pattern . You even forget that he has to flower....The Corydalis is also new to me, a very unusual colour but it fits wel with many other colours in your border.
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The first bud of Adonis amurensis rise above the ground...It looks this one has to scope with havy frost this week ...
In the glashouse Ranunculus calendrinioides is almost ready to open his flowers .
In the rockgarden Cyclamen alpinum is already that far .
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Cyclamen coum so far are not flowering brilliantly for us but there are some marvellous forms I have had from Tilebarn Nursery, including these two forms. The third photo shows a unique form of hederifolium again from Tilebarn, with an early flower spike of one of the loveliest of muscaris, M. pseudomuscari (chalusicum). And finally a Corydalis new to me, quantmeyeriana 'Chocolate Stars' (from our autumn visit to Edrom Nursery), growing with cyclamen and Astelia nervosa.
Lovely leaf forms on the Cyclamen Tim. I like the Corydalis too. When I Googled it for more information I came across this:-
http://www.rizreyes.com/Corydalis_temulifolia_Chocolate_Stars.html
so it could be C. temulifolia.
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Cyclamen coum so far are not flowering brilliantly for us but there are some marvellous forms I have had from Tilebarn Nursery, including these two forms. The third photo shows a unique form of hederifolium again from Tilebarn, with an early flower spike of one of the loveliest of muscaris, M. pseudomuscari (chalusicum). And finally a Corydalis new to me, quantmeyeriana 'Chocolate Stars' (from our autumn visit to Edrom Nursery), growing with cyclamen and Astelia nervosa.
Lovely leaf forms on the Cyclamen Tim. I like the Corydalis too. When I Googled it for more information I came across this:-
http://www.rizreyes.com/Corydalis_temulifolia_Chocolate_Stars.html
so it could be C. temulifolia.
Riz used to be an active forumist.... we have had discussions and photos before of this interesting Corydalis..... sadly it has been lost with the loss of the old archive of the Forum. >:( :'(
Diane Whitehead wrote about it in 2008....
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The first bud of Adonis amurensis rise above the ground...It looks this one has to scope with havy frost this week ...
In the glashouse Ranunculus calendrinioides is almost ready to open his flowers .
In the rockgarden Cyclamen alpinum is already that far .
Great plants beginning, Kris. I know what you mean about the threat of frosty weather..... :o
Super portrait photos of them too. 8)
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Cyclamen coum so far are not flowering brilliantly for us but there are some marvellous forms I have had from Tilebarn Nursery, including these two forms. The third photo shows a unique form of hederifolium again from Tilebarn, with an early flower spike of one of the loveliest of muscaris, M. pseudomuscari (chalusicum). And finally a Corydalis new to me, quantmeyeriana 'Chocolate Stars' (from our autumn visit to Edrom Nursery), growing with cyclamen and Astelia nervosa.
Lovely leaf forms on the Cyclamen Tim. I like the Corydalis too. When I Googled it for more information I came across this:-
http://www.rizreyes.com/Corydalis_temulifolia_Chocolate_Stars.html
so it could be C. temulifolia.
Riz used to be an active forumist.... we have had discussions and photos before of this interesting Corydalis..... sadly it has been lost with the loss of the old archive of the Forum. >:( :'(
Diane Whitehead wrote about it in 2008....
here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1469.msg37034#msg37034 .... it is only shown as foliage in a pic with Cardamine.
Prefers some light shade, we discovered..... now feeling even worse about the loss of the Archived Forum.
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I share your loss Maggi :(
By the way noticed that the first post in the link that you gave was one from the late, and sadly missed, Hans Hoeller.
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And that's another great loss, David. Hans is sorely missed.
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Links to the FOC for the two Corydalis, just for interest:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242314864 C. quantmeyeriana
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242314926 C. temulifolia
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Thanks David and Maggi - yes temulifolia it must be. I do hope it sets seed after flowering. Some corydalis do and others seem to need to cross pollinate. It is certainly a plant we should propagate!
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Eranthis hyemalis is heralding spring while they predict frost down to -10°C for the following week ::) ::)
Eranthis hyemalis 'Schwefelglanz' should be in flower too, if the snails hadn't found him first >:( >:(
And Fritillaria raddeana is in flower already, normally this species flowers here in March, so he's vey early this year!
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Just been outside to photograph a snowdrop but thought I would cheer David up, here is Daphne 'Jacqueline Postill' just a year or two older than yours I think. I hope yours is now flowering for you this year?
Such foul weather today but no snow yet, keeping fingers crossed. So catching up on some posts - only just seen Brian's early January post. After thinking that I'd lost my Jacqueline Postill in last year's freeze when it was competely defoliated and lost all its buds, I am enjoying a return to flowering and its delicious scent - just wonderful. Been flowering for a couple of weeks or more now. Some pics taken last weekend - only wish I could post a sample of the scent..........