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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: BULBISSIME on January 01, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
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First sternbergia of the year... S. candida, just open with pale sun...
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Fred,
Lovely Sternbergia! A promising start of the new season.
Happy New Year to all Sternbergia friends!
Poul
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First sternbergia of the year... S. candida, just open with pale sun...
Wonderful plant, Fred - perhaps you should start a new topic ;)
Here S. fischeriana is still in flower, it started before christmas. This springflowering species always blooms in december here - S. candida normally in January.
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Very nice Fred. I'll have to wait another 2 weeks or so.
Congratulations Hans - we don't often see this. Is it growing outside?
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Yes, a new thread needed - and opened :D
What a charming flower to open the new year. Thanks Fred 8)
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May I ask for some advice with Sternbergia lutea, please. I grow mine in pots outdoors in a shade net tunnel with open ends, facing south. They make nice leaves and good bulbs, but I can't get them to flower. Any suggestion ??? ??? ???
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May I ask for some advice with Sternbergia lutea, please. I grow mine in pots outdoors in a shade net tunnel with open ends, facing south. They make nice leaves and good bulbs, but I can't get them to flower. Any suggestion ??? ??? ???
Maren - grow them in full sun - not shaded. Feed heavily with high potash fertlliser. Keep dry & as hot as possible when dormant (i.e., hotter than you think is desirable).
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May I ask for some advice with Sternbergia lutea, please. I grow mine in pots outdoors in a shade net tunnel with open ends, facing south. They make nice leaves and good bulbs, but I can't get them to flower. Any suggestion ??? ??? ???
Gerry's suggestion is a good one Maren. You're not alone I can't flower them outside either.
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Thank you for your advice. I shall write it on the label for reference. :) :)
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First sternbergia of the year... S. candida, just open with pale sun...
What a nice present for the first day of the year Fred...
I bought this one three years ago and I stil wander when it wil flower for the first time here ....
Must check this years performance but it looks it is not an easy one to get in flower in our conditions ...
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Wonderful plant, Fred - perhaps you should start a new topic ;)
Here S. fischeriana is still in flower, it started before christmas. This springflowering species always blooms in december here - S. candida normally in January.
Never tried this one Hans , but it seams a good plant to make a bridge between both autumn and spring flowering gems.
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Well done Hans, I don't grow this specie which seems quite desirable....
Kris, I also was waiting for 4 years before to get this first flower..... 8)
I grow it now with the Onco irises so absolutely dry and warm in the summer and it seems to be the right treatment.
have to wait for the next year if I get another flower... ;D
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Well done Hans, I don't grow this specie which seems quite desirable....
Kris, I also was waiting for 4 years before to get this first flower..... 8)
I grow it now with the Onco irises so absolutely dry and warm in the summer and it seems to be the right treatment.
have to wait for the next year if I get another flower... ;D
Ok thanks Fred , I wil be patient and give them the same treatment as my Onco's ...
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grow them in full sun - not shaded. Feed heavily with high potash fertlliser. Keep dry & as hot as possible when dormant (i.e., hotter than you think is desirable).
I give my plants the same treatment as Gerry and they do flower nearly every year.
My plants however are only 1 cm high at the moment. So flowers are for February I guess.
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May I ask for some advice with Sternbergia lutea, please. I grow mine in pots outdoors in a shade net tunnel with open ends, facing south. They make nice leaves and good bulbs, but I can't get them to flower. Any suggestion ??? ??? ???
grow them in full sun - not shaded. Feed heavily with high potash fertlliser. Keep dry & as hot as possible when dormant (i.e., hotter than you think is desirable).
I give my plants the same treatment as Gerry and they do flower nearly every year.
My plants however are only 1 cm high at the moment. So flowers are for February I guess.
Sternbergia lutea in flower in February Luc ? :o
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Congratulations Hans - we don't often see this. Is it growing outside?
Thanks Gerry, Kris and Fred - yes it grows in the garden, it is a fine plant but not very floriferous with me (but still much better than 'Sternbergia sicula Dodona Gold').
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Sternbergia lutea in flower in February Luc ? :o
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Kris
I hope he means Sternbergia fischeriana - mine is just emerging from the soil.
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Kris
I hope he means Sternbergia fischeriana - mine is just emerging from the soil.
That's what I was tinking also Arthur ....Or he has a Sternbergia lutea subsp vernalis or he is stil enjoying the newyears recep.......... ;D
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I was talking about sternbergia candida. Weren't you ??
The same treatment is recommended for S. lutea of course.
No new years drink so far, I'm still on leave, as is the whole building industry !!
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
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Hans,
I grow a S. colchiciflora form which looks similar.
Poul
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Thanks Poul,
those S.colchiciflora I grow are quite different to this one (narrow curled and darker leaves without this "neck")- but as the distribution is very wide it surly seems to be a good option!
By colour and leafform I thougt it might be S. clusiana (or fischeriana) - but size of the plants would be very small...
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S. clusiana
Roland
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Finally the flower opened
the sun in the afternoon helped a little
Roland
Sternbergia candida
(http://s19.postimage.org/4g9zgasq7/Sternbergia_candida_55081.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4g9zgasq7/)
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
The leaf shape & absence of flowers suggests S. clusiana to me. I've had a bulb for over 10 years & never seen a flower!
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
The leaf shape & absence of flowers suggests S. clusiana to me. I've had a bulb for over 10 years & never seen a flower!
I agree, but the clusiana leaves are (typical) much more than 8 cm when mature. That was why I suggested colchiciflora.
Poul
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Here in Apulia, Southern Italy, the Sternbergia fischeriana is now in full flowering 8)
Although this species is reported to be scented, I feel just a very light scent.
Angelo Porcelli
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That is very impressive Angelo. Congratulations!
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Superb clump, Angelo! :o
Do you grow them in full sun?
Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
The leaf shape & absence of flowers suggests S. clusiana to me. I've had a bulb for over 10 years & never seen a flower!
I agree, but the clusiana leaves are (typical) much more than 8 cm when mature. That was why I suggested colchiciflora.
Thanks a lot, comparing the different leaves of the plants I see those of S. clusiana are the most similar.
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Yes Hans, it's in full sun, in a rather sandy soil. The bulbs are deeply buried and I think I have them in place from 6-7 years. No waterings at all, just a bit of slow release fertilizer (15-9-15) in November
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Thanks a lot Angelo, should give my plants a bit more of sun - the relationship flowers and leaves in your plants is much better! My grow in semishade and the flowers are hidden in between the leaves.
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
Dimitri - please can you set out the reasons for this identification?
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Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
Dimitri - please can you set out the reasons for this identification?
Gerry!
1) by simple morphology, as I growed some years Ungernia oligostroma; also I'm happyly growing Sternbergia species - colchiciflora, candida, fischeriana, lutea and I know these two genera differ by habit even when they just vegetate....
2) by non-flowering in culture - as I know it is very difficult to force this plants to bloom in culture because of their mostly desert nature growing, my Ungernia never bloomed at me in zone 5.....
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Dimitri - Thank you.
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Dimitri - Thank you.
not at all, Gerry! ;D to specify we should check in list all Ungernia species growing in Iran but it could be difficult without flowering of plants..... I know only U. flava and U. trisphaera from Iran...
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Dimitri - Thank you.
not at all, Gerry! ;D to specify we should check in list all Ungernia species growing in Iran but it could be difficult without flowering of plants..... I know only U. flava and U. trisphaera from Iran...
Ungernia species pics from one famous Russian plant site:
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/6292.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/12700.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/63893.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/3476.html
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Dimitri - unfortunately your links do not seem to work. With 'Firefox' I get the message " Bad Gateway".
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The links to photos of Ungernia species flowers open well for me using Firefox.
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I get "Bad Gateway" too with IE ???
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Photos opening no problem with IE.
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Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
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Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
Same here. Very odd.
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Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
Same here. Very odd.
Might it simply be the site was busy?
This internet thing is full of mysteries :-\
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Dimitri - unfortunately your links do not seem to work. With 'Firefox' I get the message " Bad Gateway".
I don't know, Gerry, possibly your net provider makes some filters for Russian sites))))))) But Ungernia pics from there are extremely beautyfull as for me - very interesting plants from Amaryllidaceae.
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Dimitri - unfortunately your links do not seem to work. With 'Firefox' I get the message " Bad Gateway".
I don't know, Gerry, possibly your net provider makes some filters for Russian sites))))))) But Ungernia pics from there are extremely beautyfull as for me - very interesting plants from Amaryllidaceae.
Dimitri - The links work fine now. Nice pictures. (I don't understand the internet!)
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Ungernia, what a beautiful Genus! :o :o :o
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Just after a week of the fischeriana show, it's the round of S. candida. I find this species slower to increase than fischeriana. Also I don't smell any scent at all, in spite of literature reporting this species is freesia scented :o while fischeriana has just a faint scent.
P.S. I can't find the way to put the preview photo, where can I read a post, please?
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Angelo, lovely S. candida
I am not sure if the usual method for photos works for photobucket pictures. :-X :-\
Usually all you need to do is load the file from your computer, without any {img} coding and the thumbnail picture appears at the end of your post. or, you can have it appear in the text by writing {attachthumb=1} but using the square backets
( I use the { instead of [ because that would show as a an error when not actually loading a file)
Perhaps some one else can explain this better?
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That's wonderful Angelo.
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Ok it seems to work now, I didn't understand there was a way to upload photos straight to the messages
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Well done Angelo, you've managed to understand my rambling words!
Again, super flowers.
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Just after a week of the fischeriana show, it's the round of S. candida. I find this species slower to increase than fischeriana. Also I don't smell any scent at all, in spite of literature reporting this species is freesia scented :o while fischeriana has just a faint scent.
P.S. I can't find the way to put the preview photo, where can I read a post, please?
Great plants Angelo ! :o
It looks like Italy has the ideal conditions for this two Sternbergia's . Do you have more bulbs to share with us ?
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It's autumn in the Southern Hemisphere! Here's the first of the Sternbergia sicula in our garden -
these were grown from seeds from Rannweig Wallis in about 1998 which were labelled as "from Crete"
- there is some variation in petal shape.
cheers
fermi
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Lovely, Fermi.
Those Ungernia pics on the previous page are amazing. The first ones remind me of Rhodophiala. Very, very cool. 8)