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Title: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 09, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
Just recently new Crocus species was described from Macedonia (former Yugoslavia) - Crocus jablanicensis - close to cvijicii and veluchensis but white, with white stigma and nude throat. By picture it really resembles white cvijicii, but between cvijicii white specimens are 1-2 per million yellows. Crocus jablanicensis population at locus classicus reported as pure white without yellow ones and with white stigma. Although I suppose that mine white cvijicii has white stigmas, too (can't check my pictures at present as I'm in hospital now). Just the glabrous throat makes the main difference between both (by my opinion - I didn't see living material). Veluchensis has different shape of flower.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 09, 2011, 02:20:24 PM
Forgot to mention another feature separating new Crocus jablanicensis from Crocus cvijicii - it is much longer stigma - well exceeding anthers as you can see on attached picture. In cvijicii stigma rarely slightly exceeds anthers.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: bulborum on December 09, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
Very special one Janis :)
Pity , Not so special shape :(
Hope it is not to serious that you are in hospital ???

Roland
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on December 09, 2011, 02:46:26 PM
Yes, hope you are soon back home and in good health Janis.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on December 09, 2011, 03:11:17 PM
Great to see the crocus but very worrying to hear you are ill, Janis.
Lots of get well wishes from Ian and from me.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 09, 2011, 05:11:04 PM
With me all is OK, thanks for your wishes. I had surgical reatment on palm and now my fingers will move better. Here another picture of new crocus which I found on internet.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Tom Waters on December 09, 2011, 09:01:01 PM
Wishing you a quick and successful recovery from the surgery, Janis!
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Otto Fauser on December 10, 2011, 01:20:23 AM
Janis , glad to hear that the surgery on your hand was successful , so you will be able to post even more  of your most informative and interesting articles in the Forum ,like the new white Crocus . No doubt there are still new species in Turkey waiting to be discovered .
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 11, 2011, 02:35:53 AM
I wish you the best outcome for your hand surgery Janis. Our hands are so vitally important. To everyone of course but especially to someone handling bulbs, seeds and plants all the time.

That is a wonderful crocus and looks like something really special to greet the northern Christmas, perhaps with snow. :D
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 15, 2011, 12:16:39 AM
What a lovely discovery. Thanks for sharing with us in spite of being in hospital. May I also wish you a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 18, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
Yesterday in my postbox came nice parcel with several books from Slovenian - there were two about snowdrops, one about CVyclamens, one about 200th Anniversary of Ljubljana Botanical Garden, but for me most important was book written by Dr. Joze Bavcon - Crocus in Slovenia, 2010. ISBN 978-961-6822-04-6 
Front cover and scan of one of inner pages in attached pictures.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: bulborum on December 18, 2011, 08:29:00 AM
Is it in English
and how many pages
I see 73

Roland
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 18, 2011, 08:33:04 AM
Is it in English
and how many pages
I see 73

Roland
It is bilingual - half in Slovenian and other half - identical translation in English. In total 176 pages. English part starts on page 88. Picture captions translated in Slovenian part, too.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: bulborum on December 18, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
Did you buy it online ??
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 18, 2011, 10:58:32 AM
No, I got it from author.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: WimB on December 18, 2011, 04:22:11 PM
Roland,

If you want to buy it, you can order it directly from the botanical garden of Ljubljana, see link: http://www.botanicni-vrt.si/content/view/16/30/lang,en/
They are always willing to mail their books.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: WimB on December 18, 2011, 04:32:08 PM
Some pictures of Crocusses which have been flowering here in the garden during the last couple of weeks:

Crocus korolkowii (in bud)
Crocus laevigatus
Crocus korolkowii 'Lucky Number' (in bud)
and Crocus chrysanthus 'Uschak Orange' (in bud)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on December 18, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
Way in front of mine Wim, very nice.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 18, 2011, 08:24:45 PM
It's that difficult time of year when not a single crocus is in flower here and won't be for a couple of months at least. I'm not REALLY looking forward to autumn rains but they will breathe new life. Actually I'd welcome any rain at all here on the lower east coast of the South Island, unlike the north where devastating flooding has occurred.

The page 73 in your book Janis gives a whole new take on the wonder of Crocus vernus doesn't it? Well worth growing numerous seed forms.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 19, 2011, 07:04:44 PM
Leslie, It is not my book! I only informed about it and scanned one page (73rd) for illustration because forms pictured on this page something resembles my famous variety 'CARPATHIAN WONDER'.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: I.S. on December 20, 2011, 09:19:59 AM
  Here is my first spring flowering crocus :)
It is a very early flowering form of C. biflorus subsp. nubigena.
 
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 20, 2011, 07:57:35 PM
Marvellous, Ibrahim! With me started blooming - showed out coloured buds - stridii, punctatus, graveolens, all hittiticus stocks, 2 stocks of atticus.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 20, 2011, 08:07:43 PM
  Here is my first spring flowering crocus :)
It is a very early flowering form of C. biflorus subsp. nubigena.
 

Very nice Ibrahim .Here Crocus olivieri already finished flowering , what a strange season .....

For pictures from some Crocus taken in the Pelops in september from this year please see  :  http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8207.45
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 20, 2011, 11:58:05 PM
Janis, just bought your Crocuses book as a Christmas present for my parents. Very nice looking book.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 26, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
Today Crocus korolkowii and michelsonii joined company of early runners.

But reason of this entry isn't crocuses, simply I want to

WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN NEW YEAR AND HOPE YOU ALL HAD WONDERFULL CHRISTMAS!

Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: art600 on December 27, 2011, 11:14:07 AM
Here are some Crocus in bloom in my bulb house
1) Crocus leichtlinii
2) Crocus graveolens
3) Crocus reticulatus ssp. hitticus - must remeber to sort into striped and speckled when repotting
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: udo on December 27, 2011, 12:32:46 PM
after to warm christmas days,
Crocus ( imperati ssp.) suaveolens outside
    ``    hittiticus in a cold frame

I wish all forum members a good new year and many flowers next spring :)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: art600 on December 27, 2011, 12:40:19 PM
Udo

That is a really wonderful speckled hitticus  :)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: udo on December 27, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
Arthur,

many thanks. This Crocus have the coll.number BM 8449.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: mark smyth on December 27, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
If you want to buy it, you can order it directly from the botanical garden of Ljubljana, see link: http://www.botanicni-vrt.si/content/view/16/30/lang,en/ They are always willing to mail their books.

I cant see any links to actually order a book
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: alpinelover on December 28, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
A few crocusses in bud:
Crocus sieberi ‘Hubert edelsten’ (photo 1)
Crocus fuscotinctus (photo 2)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Kasun A on December 30, 2011, 06:52:36 PM
these are some crocuses i could find in my garden in central portugal on 17 december.


 crocus biflorus biflorus???
 crocus sieberi Bowles White?


kasun
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: bulborum on December 30, 2011, 07:06:51 PM
Crocus serotinus ??

Roland
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: tonyg on December 30, 2011, 07:11:11 PM
these are some crocuses i could find in my garden in central portugal on 17 december.
crocus biflorus biflorus???
 crocus sieberi Bowles White?
kasun
Crocus imperati mostly ... if not all of them.  Some nice forms.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Hans A. on December 30, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
I am really fascinated how variable crocus are!

Actually Crocus imperati is in flower also in my garden (together with the last dark Crocus laevigatus).
Thanks to the very generous donor ;)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Roma on December 30, 2011, 10:12:11 PM
No crocuses in the garden yet, but two pots of Crocus korolkowii and one of Crocus vernus showing colour in the frame.
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 31, 2011, 07:11:01 AM
Cloudy, rainy. cool... but unusually warm for this time of year and a lot of crocuses comes up in pots - so last ay entries for going 2011
Autumn blooming Crocus aleppicus - 2 forms from Jim Archibald and Arnis Seisums
Crocus ancyrensis
Crocus atticus from Didima
Crocus hittiticus and
Crocus graveolens
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on December 31, 2011, 07:15:55 AM
Some more wishes for New Year
Crocus korolkowii Mountains Glory
Crocus michelsonii
2 forms of Crocus nevadensis
and Crocus korolkowii Lucky Number
There are few more from biflorus group which started showing colored buds, but a litt5le too early for pictures

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 31, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
What a wonderful sight they will all be if only the sun would shine on them. :)
Title: Re: Crocus December 2011
Post by: art600 on January 01, 2012, 10:45:29 AM
I had not heard of Augis bulbs before this year and decided to buy some Crocus and Frits.

There was a bargain 100 large corms of Crocus korolkowii for €10.00  I gave some to firends and planted the remainder in pots.  

The first two shots are of Crocus korolkowii from the SRGC Discussion Weekend in 2010 - 'Kiss of Spring' & 'Dark Throat'  The remaining shots are the unnamed from Augis - will certainly be ordering more bulbs this year.

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