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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Linda_Foulis on November 13, 2011, 06:55:51 PM

Title: need ID please
Post by: Linda_Foulis on November 13, 2011, 06:55:51 PM
Hello All,

We found this in a mossy shaded area growing with club moss, ferns and other forest floor plants.  It behaved like a wild strawberry, sending out runners.  The berry picture is of a single berry but it also produced multiple berries.  The berries have a single seed. 
Location was south west of Rocky Mountain House, Alberta.
I've gone through all of my books and not found anything even close???  Any assistance would be great.

Thanks
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Lori S. on November 13, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
It's running raspberry, Rubus pedatus:
http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ri%5Cubus+pedatus&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1917&bih=984&sei=ghfATuabI4aGiQL6t-n4Ag#um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=rubus+pedatus&pbx=1&oq=rubus+pedatus&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3417l3524l0l5048l2l2l0l0l0l0l127l229l0.2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3e0af84670a00d65&biw=1917&bih=984

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=RUPE

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0808+2013

Flora of Alberta, Moss and Packer: "slender creeping branches up to 1 m long and very short, erect flowering shoots, the latter 2-4-leaved; leaves mostly pedately 5-foliate, the two lateral leaflets often cleft almost to the base"; fruit "1-6 drupelets".

Berries of Alberta, Olga Droppo:  leaves "mostly 5-foliate or 3-foliate"; "occasional in moist woods and mossy banks in the mountains of western Alberta and in the Swan Hills".
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Maggi Young on November 13, 2011, 07:35:37 PM
 I knew that I knew it - thank goodness for Lori coming up with the name before I tore my hair out.  :-X

Sometimes I have sympathy with the "things we know we don't know and thing we don't know we do know" muddle that a certain USA politician got into .... if I know I don't know something then I can have a calm curiosity to discover what it is.... but if I know I know but cannot remember, it drives me crazy!  ::)
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Linda_Foulis on November 13, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
Thank you Lori, I was hoping you'd reply.  Yes that is it. 
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Lori S. on November 13, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
You're welcome, Linda.

Both of those things (thinking I know something but don't, knowing I know something but can't think of it) are happening more and more often to me, Maggi - not sure which is worse!
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Maggi Young on November 13, 2011, 08:03:35 PM
.......... not sure which is worse!
That's another of the things I don't know...... :'(
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 13, 2011, 08:40:26 PM
.......... not sure which is worse!
That's another of the things I don't know...... :'(

We're getting to be quite a big club aren't we? ???

You know though Lori, that we want to know - is the fruit edible?
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Maggi Young on November 13, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
Edible, yes.... but how fruitful it is... that is to say.... how many acres of the stuff do you need for a pie? ....that I cannot say....  Lori, we need you again... or Stephen B   :)
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Lori S. on November 13, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
I don't believe I've sampled it myself but it certainly does look like one of those things that would take all day to pick a pie's-full!  Alberta Berries is pretty terse and declines to describe the flavour, admitting only to "edible".   ::)
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Paul T on November 14, 2011, 09:45:29 AM
I just love the word 'Drupelets' in the description.  Yes, I know what it means, but it just sounds so silly for some reason.

OK, you all know I'm strange, so just live with it.  ;) :P
Title: Re: need ID please
Post by: Stephenb on November 14, 2011, 10:42:30 AM
Edible, yes.... but how fruitful it is... that is to say.... how many acres of the stuff do you need for a pie? ....that I cannot say....  Lori, we need you again... or Stephen B   :)

I don't yet have any experience, but I now have a few plants as seed Cohan sent me germinated in the spring. This is wha Plants for a Future say about it:

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Rubus+pedatus
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