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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: mark smyth on November 08, 2011, 10:40:13 PM
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The Galanthus Gala will take place on Saturday February 11th
at the Garden House in Devon. The Gala garden will be the Garden House where Matt will put on a display of snowdrops. The school, still being finalised, is about 10 minutes away.
The pencilled in speakers are
Ranvig Wallis talking about her Trym seedlings, G. krasnovii, G. koenenianus and G. k.....?
Dowling Monroe - modern yellow snowdrops
Joze Bavcon - Slovenian snowdrops
The open gardens on the Sunday are those of Jo Hynes and Rosemoor
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For those staying in Devon after the Garden House event there will be three gardens open, as part of the Galanthus Gala, on Friday February 10th between 1pm and 3pm across the border in Cornwall
Pentillie Castle - http://www.pentillie.co.uk/gardens (http://www.pentillie.co.uk/gardens)
Pentillie Castle, Paynters Cross, St. Mellion, Saltash, Cornwall PL12 6QD
Ince Castle - http://www.incecastle.co.uk/ (http://www.incecastle.co.uk/)
Ince Castle, Elm Gate, Saltash, Cornwall PL12 4QZ
Signposted from the A38 West of Saltash, to Trematon and then Elmgate.
Nancy Davey's garden
no adress just now
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For those unable to attend the Gala due to the distance Joe is organising a one off snowdrop sale at Myddelton House Gardens on February 4th.
This is the only venue that Wol and Sue will be attending this year.
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For those unable to attend the Gala due to the distance Joe is organising a one off snowdrop sale at Myddelton House Gardens on February 4th.
This is the only venue that Wol and Sue will be attending this year.
Doesn't that mean that the growers will be pretty much sold out by the time of the gala, with not much on the sales tables in Devon? Especially if Wol and Sue won't be there.
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Only Joe and the Staines are going to Myddleton House as far as I understand.
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Only Joe and the Staines are going to Myddleton House as far as I understand.
They're pretty much the backbone of the sales hall. I suppose Matt will be selling.
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I shall be conspicuous by my absence ;D
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No offence, David, but the Gala is such a large and crowded event it would be difficult for anyone to be conspicuously absent. I would just assume they were lost in the throng somewhere.
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David why dont you attend? You will meet many forum members
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would like to get to a Gala one year but will try and get to Myddelton House Gardens instead and spend some my bosses money ;D
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I will try and do both ! ::)
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I think that we shall also try and do both :)
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Not sure I can afford to do both. :-\
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David why dont you attend? You will meet many forum members
The meeting Forum members bit would be fine but I couldn't cope with the intense boredom of the other bits ;D
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I wouldnt call it intense boredom. The lectures are the shortest bit of the whole day. There is lots of socialising
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David.... do you get the feeling that the Drop Fiends don't "get" irony ?
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Erm. Yes ;D
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The venue for the Gala is Kelly College, Tavistock PL19 0HZ.
For those who smoke there is no smoking allowed on any part of the school grounds
Registration 9.30am to 10am
Lectures 10-12pm
Lunch from 12pm
Sales 12pm-1pm
Matt will have display of rarities in the lobby of the house.
The event sold out in 4 days last year
Nancy Davy's house is at "The Little House" 19 Lower Port View, Saltash, Cornwall PL12 4BY
The entrance fee is £3.50. It's open 1pm to 3pm. Teas available but no toilet.
No parking allowed on her road
The entrance fee for Ince Castle is £3.50
The entrance fee for Pentillie Castle is £6.00
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The venue for the Gala is Kelly College, Tavistock PL19 0HZ.
Take your cap with you Mark you could be meeting the landed gentry! ;D
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And your bathers,son Chris when he was swimming for the county ,went to a training camp at Kelly College
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My "Dear Snowdrop Lover" letter of invitation to the Galanthus Gala arrived today. It does not have far to come as Monksilver Nursery is just the other side of Cambridge.
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I say, does one have to have an invitation?
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Not at all just send a letter back requesting
your one's tickets to attend.
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It might help to send a cheque with one's letter. From memory, Gala tickets were £26, lunch was £10 and admission to The Garden House was £6.
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OH NO i havent had my letter yet :'( :o :'(
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My letter came today! Isn't that quick? But I will not be there this year. :-\
Hopefully next year if it is not to far from London. But I am looking forward to all your photos and comments. :D
Lina.
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My neighbour's had my letter . The one time they bother to pick up the post and its something important to me !!!!!
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It might help to send a cheque with one's letter. From memory, Gala tickets were £26, lunch was £10 and admission to The Garden House was £6.
So just a profit making "bash"all round then?
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Is that so terrible, David? Nurserymen aren't generally found amongst the wealthier members of our society. If one of them can organise a snowdrop "bash" and make some money from it, well good for them I say.
Or was that irony again and you wanted to point out what a bargain price it is?
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As a nurseryman I have to agree! But I haven't made it to one of the Gala's yet because I am afraid of all of the elbows!!
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I would love to meet the elbows of other snowdroplovers. :D
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Is that so terrible, David? Nurserymen aren't generally found amongst the wealthier members of our society. If one of them can organise a snowdrop "bash" and make some money from it, well good for them I say.
Or was that irony again and you wanted to point out what a bargain price it is?
Me ironical? Nah, wrong person, you must have been thinking of Maggi ;D
I'm fairly certain Joe Sharman and Alan Street aren't down to their last halfpennies, but, in any case I'm a great supporter of small British nurseries throughout the year. Indeed most of the Nicholson children's heritage ends up in Nurserymen's hands.
It was only today that Mrs N (who labours long and hard to ensure that our current account costs us nothing, but costs the Bank a fortune to offer it to us and thereby reduces our Banker's bonus) shouted up to me that that nice Gorge(sic) Osborne (is this the same bloke who plays in a rock band and bites off animal's heads?) had further extended the Nurserymen's bounty by paying me a £10 Christmas Bonus. Wonderful!!) I was careful to check, however, that said Mrs N had also an entitlement to her own £10. Now she is of the "magic age" she gets 50% of my Winter Fuel Allowance and this, of course, means a considerable reduction in my bulb purchasing budget.
I have given some thought to organising a Hooped Petticoat Narcissus Gala (very apt since they too all look much the same) and planning is reaching an advanced stage. Ivybridge Chippy and the Indian Take Away are both keen to participate. The Methodist Church Hall (so there can't be a raffle) is likely to be the venue, although it will lack the ambiance of Kelly College. My friend Mike, who grows them too, is willing to open his garden for £6 a throw. All I have to do now is to attract one or two of my most hard-up Nurserymen friends and I'm up and running. £50, all in should just be about right. ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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Is that so terrible, David? Nurserymen aren't generally found amongst the wealthier members of our society. If one of them can organise a snowdrop "bash" and make some money from it, well good for them I say.
Or was that irony again and you wanted to point out what a bargain price it is?
Me ironical? Nah, wrong person, you must have been thinking of Maggi ;D
It was only today that Mrs N (who labours long and hard to ensure that our current account costs us nothing, but costs the Bank a fortune to offer it to us and thereby reduces our Banker's bonus) shouted up to me that that nice Gorge(sic) Osborne (is this the same bloke who plays in a rock band and bites off animal's heads?) had further extended the Nurserymen's bounty by paying me a £10 Christmas Bonus. Wonderful!!) I was careful to check, however, that said Mrs N had also an entitlement to her own £10. Now she is of the "magic age" she gets 50% of my Winter Fuel Allowance and this, of course, means a considerable reduction in my bulb purchasing budget.
David do you have to be really old to get the £10 bonus?
I have just bought some nice plants with the winter fuel allowance (both mine and Mrs W's) but a bit more is always welcome.
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David do you have to be really old to get the £10 bonus?
Yes.
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David - I'll join you in the hoop-petticoat gala though £50 seems on the low side for rich forumists (concessions for 'senior citizens' of course). Many happy hours could be spent discussing whether there are any real differences.
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Thank you Gerry, I had you signed up in any case. Of course it will be free for pensioners (so that's me and you sorted!) I'll just 'soak' Tony Willis and the other "sprogs" to make up the profits ;D
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Tony,
Check your Bank Statement ;D
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Hello to all,
well yesterday I could reserve some tickets for the gala at the garden house and the one in Tavistock. I'm very excited and hope that I can meet some of the forumists there!
Also, thank you for the e-card in October.
Kind regards, Martina
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I'm booking a place at David's Gala. It sounds like an occasion I would enjoy.
Paddy
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I already had you had on the list Paddy ;D
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Hello to all,
well yesterday I could reserve some tickets for the gala at the garden house and the one in Tavistock. I'm very excited and hope that I can meet some of the forumists there!
Also, thank you for the e-card in October.
Kind regards, Martina
I'm sure you will have a great time, Martina. I hope that Forumists attending will look out for you and introduce themselves.
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I'm booking a place at David's Gala. It sounds like an occasion I would enjoy.
I like the sounds of it too, except that Hooped-Petticoat daffodils always up and die on me so there wouldn't be much point!
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Alan, petticoats, hooped or not, have nothing to do with it.
Paddy
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Hi Maggi,
what about the Galanthus lovers' ellbows? :) Hope they are not too hard!
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Hi Maggi,
what about the Galanthus lovers' elbows? :) Hope they are not too hard!
Martina, I think you must be steadfast in your approach, but keep a big smile on your face... that will disarm them! ;) ;D
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Or dress something like this ;)
(http://www.ihavenet.com/images/nfl-2008-kurt-warner-arizona-cardinals.jpg)
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But the elbows could still get bruised in that outfit Chas.
If I ever go to the gala I think I would need to wear something like this ;D
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But the elbows could still get bruised in that outfit Chas.
If I ever go to the gala I think I would need to wear something like this ;D
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Well, then I will watch out for people dressed up like this knowing this are the forumists!! ::)
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im thinking of this for the gala ;D
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Love it Emma, I'll keep a lookout for you but I you may be difficult to spot ;D
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I'm really quite tempted now - I have some knee pads I could put on my elbows! (PS: I like all the other plants Joe grows too).
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I dont think the Gala is as bad as people think.
This could be the year to try it out. Because it's so far away numbers may be down but numbers could be normal because those in the south west dont travel when it's far away
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My neighbour needs a flask, sandwiches and an overnight stay if she goes to Plymouth, and thats 14 miles away ;D
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im thinking of this for the gala ;D
That's great, Emma, but you forgot your hat!
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Has anybody got their Gala tickets yet? It's four weeks hence now and I would like to know if I will be able to go or not.
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Not heard a thing yet Alan
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The money has gone from my bank account, so either im going or Joe has run away with my money lmao ;D
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Alan, the money from my cheque is gone, so I hope for an ticket :).
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Someone called Mark Smyth will be the first point of call at the Gala. He will be on the registration table. If you know him say "hello".
He will also be looking after pre-orders. If anything is missing it will not be him 8) only joking :)
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Unlike the Galanthus Gala, all of the tickets for the Hooped Petticoat Narcissus Gala were sent out weeks ago to the thousands who had begged to attend and the proceeds have been invested following much advice from my Investment expert Mr H Redknapp!
Ivybridge chippy have laid in vast amounts of spuds and fishing boats out of Plymouth have been on overtime for weeks. The Chefs at the Indian are producing Biryani as though there were no tomorrow and I thank, most sincerely folks, the good people of Ivybridge who have extended the loan of their freezers. Once he gets Sunday out of the way the Vicar has promised to give the Methodist Hall a bit of a clean and if he gets time a lick of paint.
I'm only sorry that I shall be unable to personally greet all the visitors but Mr Redknapp and I have some rather pressing business in Monaco on that date.
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Just in case you missed the news here http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7858.120 it seems that the Galanthus Gala was not so popular this year so if you applied for tickets you got them. What's more, there are still some spare spaces (so there you are, David, I know behind the bravado you are secretly just itching to go).
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Yeah! ::)
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I'll pay your way. You dont have to go anywhere near the sales area and you will enjoy meeting forum members
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Very kind Mark but no thanks, I'll be there in "spirit" ;D
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Do any Yorkshiremen collect snowdrops, or is it against their religion?!
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Unlike the Galanthus Gala, all of the tickets for the Hooped Petticoat Narcissus Gala were sent out weeks ago to the thousands who had begged to attend and the proceeds have been invested following much advice from my Investment expert Mr H Redknapp!
David - To my dismay, I've noticed you popping up on the snowdrop thread recently. I bet you intend to spend your ill-gotten gains (the proceeds of gambling with our money) on an EBay snowdrop.
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This Yorkshireman collects snowdrops. I am really addicted. Sad i know but just cant help it lol.
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Do any Yorkshiremen collect snowdrops, or is it against their religion?!
Sad to say I have to raise my hand ;D
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David - To my dismay, I've noticed you popping up on the snowdrop thread recently....................
Only to hone my subversion skills Gerry and to spread disinformation. I've been reading too many le Carre books lately ;D
I'm finding said Mr Redknapp an invaluable advisor especially on matters of taxation (or more appropriately, not!!) but regretfully he knows even less than me about Snowdrops.
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Well Tim, there you see it, at least two Yorkshiremen ignoring their heritage and spending money on little white flowers that all look the same when they should be applying their mantra-Hear all, see all, say nowt. Eat all, sup all, pay nowt.
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Well Tim, there you see it, at least two Yorkshiremen ignoring their heritage and spending money on little white flowers that all look the same when they should be applying their mantra-Hear all, see all, say nowt. Eat all, sup all, pay nowt.
It's the 'see all' and 'pay nowt' that I have trouble with David ;D
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A Yorkshire lass as well. ::) Yellow fever is the most virulent though, daffs rule!
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Bridlington born,bred, and educated. A snowdrop named Flamborough Head thrives in my garden. Qualified to play cricket for the county and free pass to Betty's Tea Rooms at Harrogate. Where has tha been since ah saw thee?
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.......... Qualified to play cricket for the county..............
Now, there's the rub, so is everyone else these days, no matter where they were born. FST will have turned in his grave, many times.
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Finally
Gala ticket arrives in the post ... but, unusually, without the sales list that normally accompanies it.
Nor the map referred to, only written instructions.
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Same here Alan ,was also hoping sales list would be included,maybe e bay is working better for him
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The silly thing is that the only possible excuse for being so late in sending out the tickets was a delay in finalising the sales list.
Did you get a map, Chas ... anybody?
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Alan, if you or anyone else is coming to mine on Sunday it would be VERY well worth using the directions which can be found on the ngs.org.uk site, or my own garden website. Or satnav EX19 8PP and follow parking signs.
If anyone gets into the village of Dolton you're done for, there's no mobile signal and we're about a mile and a half away on the Winkleigh side, that is east :)
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Hmm, so where Joe Sharman's instructions say "Find the junction on the B3217 which crosses the A3124" I should find this junction but continue past it on the A3124 (heading south east away from Great Torrington) then and look for a right turn some way down the road?
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Exactly Alan ;D ;D
The right turn has a brown tourist sign that points you to the fisheries. I expect we'll put up some signs too ::)
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Tickets came, but no sales list.
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The snowdrop list is definitely being mailed this week. Europe probably tomorrow and UK a day or two later
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My tickets for the Gala arrived here today with the description how to find the gardens. Now I only have to take the plane on Tuesday, hire a car and drive all the way down to deepest Devon ...
Hello Jo, I'll come and see your garden on Sunday after the Gala. I just had a look on your website and it looks like paradise!
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the school
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map
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Thanks Thomas, looking forward to it. Lets hope the arctic winter in europe doesn't come our way next week :)
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Jo BBC are saying -11 next week. I went out to plant some goodies today - the soil is rock hard
Out of interest who is going to the Gala?
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i am ;D
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Since the absence of a sales list from Joe Sharman was remarked upon earlier in this thread, I thought I should mention that mine arrived in the post today. Since "orders received after 7th February will not be accepted" there is a tight deadline should you wish to order something.
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Looking forward to reading reports of the Gala today ???
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I suppose we better give them a chance to get home Maxine :D
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Mark here ... Dont want to change Jo's settings in case she doesnt remember
Maxine great to meet you yesterday. Dont think the lab liked me. He growled very close to the family jewels.
The Gala was the best in a very long time. Dick Turpin was on the door relieving people of their snowdrop money ;D
Three great lectures especially Bob Wallis. Ranveig was ill. He took us through Europe looking at species and assosiated plants and then to the garden to look at the Trym babies and selections.
Dowing Munroe looked at yellows old and new with lots of humour - that's him and not the snowdrops
Joze Bavcon from Slovenia showed his selections - boys and girls just wait until they hit ebay!! He had fours books for sale. One on his selections, a tiny version showing his selections, one on Crocus that grow in Slovenia and his selections and one of Cyclamen purpurescens.
Best deals in the sales hall came from Anita Thorpe. Multiple bulbs in pots for the price of a single one. I gave her all my money. Melvin Jope had lovely Cyclamen from Tile Barn - I bought those - and seed raised ikariae from various locations. He also had his usual selection of reginae-olgaes and peshmenii.
Long Acre were selling masses of Hellebores and some thibetanus. The latter I saw when I delivered snowdrops to the hall but on return they were gone.
Lots of new 'drops on Joe's stand - Sharman's Late, (John's) Y Fronts
Loads left on the tables at the end including some not seen by me before.
Some "drug dealing" took place in the car park of East Lambrook Manor - great to meet Michael and co. again.
The food was the best in a long time - well done Kelly College.
Great to meet Hagen - thanks for the nice words
Great to meet the lurkers from across Europe again
Went fishing :-X
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Jan and I have just arrived home from the gala ,we both had a good day,and I only bought 3 drops,how good is that
The weather was fab, especially ,when we found out today it had been -15 here earlier today :o :o
Jan really chuffed as we stayed at the Jamaica Inn
And pleased to meet you Hagen
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If the Gala did not sell-out this year then you really wouldn't have noticed as the lecture hall was packed with people, too many to even say hello to everybody, let alone chat. As usual there was a coach party from Holland and another from Germany. By normal Gala standards things went very smoothly although this might not have been the case without the loan of batteries, laptops etc. from members of the audience. The three talks were all interesting and delivered in contrasting styles. Then there was the usual scrum at the sales tables. I manged to resist temptation, having succumbed at Myddleton House last week.
Actually, I had a bit of a Damascene revelation whilst looking round the snowdrops the previous day. It occurred to me that there are many fine snowdrop collections but often they mostly contain the same snowdrops so one doesn't often see something unusual. I don't have room for a big collection anyway so I thought it would be a good idea to try and populate my collection with less well-known snowdrops, perhaps those associated in some way with people I have got to know through the forum, as well as the ones I have found myself. So, reader, be forewarned - you may be hearing from me.
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By the way, dare I suggest that the magic of moderation be used to split off the, err, 'debate' on nomenclature into its own thread as it seems to have lost any relationship to the Gala?
I have split the thread as suggested.There is now: 'Galanthus naming- digression from Gala 2012 thread'
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Seems a dearth of pictures from the gala this year. Didn't anyone take a camera? Or am I missing something?
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Perhaps folks are still out and about visiting more gardens, David?
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Hagen showed me lots of photos last night that were on his laptop. Hopefully he will be able to post some when he gets back to his house in Germany later this week?
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Perhaps folks are still out and about visiting more gardens, David?
That hasn't shut them up in the past. ::)
johnw
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Perhaps I'll have to grit my teeth and go another time. ;D
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We wait with bated breath 8)
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I hope that you two are not sitting in separate rooms using separate computers on Valentines day!
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Valentine's what? I thought it was Tuesday.
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I hope that you two are not sitting in separate rooms using separate computers on Valentines day!
...and I was outside selling snowdrops ;D
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I plan to post some more about the Gala as soon as I get a spare moment, which will probably be in a day or two.
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Cheers Alan, patience is a virtue ;D
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I hope to sort through my photos and post up later today.
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It will be most appreciated by us all Emma :-*
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I can't wait to see them Emma ;D
I must make the effort to go to more galanthus do's next year.
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Just landed at Belfast City Airport. Had brilliant time in Devon. Daren't look ag the bank account until next pay day when Im in England again ;D
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'trumps' was every where at The Garden House
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A gathering of Galanthophiles
'Green Arrow'
i spied this at The Garden House
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'trumps' was every where at The Garden House
only 300 I was told
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someone needed more than one wheel barrow to cart things home - Hellebores, Cyclamen, Corydalis, Narcissus, Pulsatillas, Eranthis .....
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Was that your carry-on Mark?
Standing on my head reading your labels - Yaffle, Tiny....come clean.
johnw
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:-X :)
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yes Yaffle and Tutu are in there
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Good photos Emma do you have any more??
The weather at the Garden House looks much nicer for the Gala than the thick rainy Dartmoor mist we had there for Matt's snowdrop day 2011.
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I was expecting all the Gala and other open day pix to be absolutely full of snow... a pleasant surprise to see that conditions were much nicer than that for all your visits.
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There was no snow at all :) and i do have more photos to post when ive got a spare few minutes.
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Three gardens in Cornwall had been open on Friday before the Gala. The first one we visited was Pentillie Castle and Estate, standing within 2,000 acres of mature rolling woods and parkland that overlook the River Tamar. Vast drifts of snowdrops had naturalized there, though, unfortunately, many of them did not show up this year, as the owner said. Nevertheless, we were given an impressive tour through the garden. Here some impressions:
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The second one open for the Gala was Ince Castle of Alice Boyd, a large peninsular estate and garden with superb views across the Lynher estuary. A wall planted with hellebores and snowdrops was very nice.
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The third one was Nancy Davy's The Little House in Saltash with a wonderful collection of snowdrops. The weather was rather terrible this day, cold and with rain, so I did take no photographs of individual snowdrops, which were closed. But I have never seen a snowdrop theatre before. Here it is:
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Lovely pictures Thomas - I wish I had been on your coach trip.
That mosaic in the garden of Nancy Davy is lovely.
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We, Mathias and I, were not in the coach but travelling individually - though we met the German group in all three gardens that day.
Yes, the mosaic is beautiful. Quite an unusual presentation.
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I thought that moss-covered bench was amazing. Maybe Avon should borrow it for their next Westminster display?
Malcolm.
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I wish I had been on your coach trip.
Apparently the coach carrying the German galanthophiles got stuck fast in a narrow lane on the way to Ince Castle, too far from the destination to get out and walk. I think it was there for about 45 minutes before managing to free itself. So you don't want to have been on that particular coach trip and it's just as well that Thomas wasn't.
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Crikey... wonder if that was because the driver was following SatNav instructions, or it's just a very narrow
lane?!! :D
Hope we'll have no such difficulty on our coach trip to Dunblane tomorrow.. ;)
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Crikey... wonder if that was because the driver was following SatNav instructions, or it's just a very narrow
lane?!! :D
Cornwall does narrow very well indeed especially out in the sticks
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Yes, I imagine it does... and English lanes seem to have high hedge on banks, making them more tricky to navigate and see what's coming....... even narrow Scots roads don't, for the most part, have that "corridor" feeling :-\
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Yes, I imagine it does... and English lanes seem to have high hedge on banks, making them more tricky to navigate and see what's coming....... even narrow Scots roads don't, for the most part, have that "corridor" feeling :-\
Devon's very much the same, impossible to see anything other than road and hedge. Not like Yorkshire of course where all the horizons are big :P
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Some good impressions of the gardens, thanks for posting them Thomas. Nice snowdrop theatre, they seem to be gaining popularity as a way of displaying snowdrops. At least you don't have to prostrate yourself to smell the scent ;D
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On Sunday after the Gala the garden of Jo and her husband was open for visitors of the Gala. I loved the woodland walk with snowdrops and the willow allée was great. And very welcome was the hot soup. Thank you so much, Jo!
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Some more impressions from Jo's garden. On the last picture there is a pot with Galanthus 'Mark's Tall', a present from Mark to Jo, growing much taller in the open ground, as I heard, at least in Northern Ireland.
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It's about time I dyed the white hairs :o
Mark's Tall grows to 30cm once settled