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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Diane Whitehead on November 02, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
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I've just come home from the Southern Hemisphere (Chile and Ecuador)
and am surprised to see that the Gentiana paradoxa/ septemfida hybrid
I wrote about on Sept 12 is still in full flower. What a great plant!
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My goodness, that is showing willing. It must have wanted to show you what you missed by going on your travels!
Hope your southern hemisphere jaunts went well.... I have been following some of the "talk" in the pbs and it sounds good..... good to have you "home" again, though!
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Russ Graham, an Oregon USA nursery owner, sent me seeds of the various
forms of Saxifraga fortunei he grows. Here are the seedlings in flower.
The flowers all look the same but the leaves vary a lot.
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Some autumn colour from the nursery I work.
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Intense colour, Uli .... that would brighten any work day :)
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Some more. Viburnum nudum cultivar 'Winterthur', a compact form.
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Intense colour, Uli .... that would brighten any work day :)
Only the sun where missed today. And this after two wonderful sunny weeks.
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Lovely colours Uli.
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Those are stunning autumn colours Uli. I am obsessed by autumn leaf colour; would almost give up spring flowers to be in autumn for ever. Almost :) I love the Vaccinium.
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Ian and I have both fallen for the Vaccinium griffithianum - we will be looking out for that one.
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I haven't been out with the camera much lately but went out yesterday to record what was flowering. It was rather windy so some pics were just too blurry to show.
There are still one or two flowers on Crocus pulchellus - such a long flowering period and all from one or two corms or seeds scattered in used potting compost. One flower on Helleborus niger, a few on Geranium 'Lawrence Flatman'. Autumn colour has not been very good. Most leaves have blown off before enough had coloured to give a show.
A few pics
A late Gentiana 'Strathmore'
A late or ?early Gentiana angustifolia
Helleborus x ericsmithii
Corydalis ochroleuca
A late cyclamen hederifolium and an early C. coum
Meconopsis x sheldonii
Galanthus corcyrensis
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I didn't find much useful about THAT Vaccinium on Google. Its name seems to be in doubt and nothing about what it truly is. Certainly I saw nothing about where one might find it. Glorious colour!
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There is a bit of colour in the greenhouse but not alpines. Begonias are such good value. They just keep on flowering.
I bought the orange one at Dobbies earlier this year. It has dark leaves and is called either 'Glowing' or 'Burning Embers.
The red is a non-stop Mocha type which amazingly survived last winter in the greenhouse.
I bought the Canna last year. It was not named and was the only dark leaved one on the bench. I think it may be a seedling. It spent the winter in the house. It was planted out in a tub but I took it inside about three weeks ago when I saw the flower buds forming.
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Yesterday's last crocuses. Today is -2. :-[
(http://cs10775.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/45874243/y_309c55c5.jpg)
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Today was my first look at my garden in daylight for far too long. :(
I went out to take some pictures of snowdrops (but the sky is so overcast that all my pictures have turned out rubbish >:( )
The only picture that turned out OK is this Zantedeschia. This is a form that is grown widely on Madeira - but I have never managed to find out if it has a cultivar name.
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John - I wonder if it is Z. 'Green Goddess'. It oftentimes has much more white on some flowers here. An aethiopica I think. We had quite a few flowers this sunless summer with no white.
A caterpillar appeared this summer which seems to only eat Zs.
johnw
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'Green Goddess' as grown in NZ usually has more green, streaking down towards the spadix I think. Perhaps it varies garden to garden or year to year.
That sounds like a horrid caterillar John. ZZ better watch out. :)
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'Green Goddess' was my first thought too. But the Madeiran plants always look like this - so I counted out GG as a possibility (not enough Green) - I think it most likely a different form.
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Although it is November we still have rather mild weather with night temps down to 10C and day temps up to 15C. Not much sun though. Some plants are still in flower too. Among those is a Salvia, possibly S. glutinosa but I am not sure. Seed from Chris Chadwell.
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Saxifraga fortunei does perform very good this autumn and so does Fuchsia molinae too.
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We also have much milder autumn than usual at my place this year. Allium virgunculae 'Hirado Komachi' looks enjoying its blooming time with a small bee.
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I've started packing my Summer garden into the lean-to for it's winter hibernation period. I was happy to see these Christmas Cacti flowering.
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'Green Goddess' was my first thought too. But the Madeiran plants always look like this - so I counted out GG as a possibility (not enough Green) - I think it most likely a different form.
John - If you google Z. Green Goddess and look under images you will see a whole range of flower types - everything from what we have in our mind's eye when we buy it to what we actually see in the garden. Lesley's on to the right track. One sight describes it as white with a green lip, if she had a green nose we could call her Mrs. Matisse.
johnw
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The first pic following is a Helleborus double pink hybrid I pictured on 2 September in full bloom and the second pic is the same plant pictured today. It bloomed well last spring too but I wonder if it will in spring 2012?
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David, I will be interested to find out what the flower power is for this plant in Spring. we are always getting questions about the effect of out od season flowering on the radio phone -in and I'd like to have an example of a hellebore to add to our knowledge of such happenings.
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As with David, I have stray hellebores in flower at the moment. We will have to wait until next spring to see how they perform then.
Paddy
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Here also things keep on going .No frost yet en temperatures of 18/19 degrees ! Very unusual.
Pyrethrum leontopodium
Anemone seedling
Clematis cultivar
Gentiana sino- ornata
Teucrium aroanium
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What is this cute plant in pix 5, a Caryopteris ?
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I think it might be Teucrium aroanium.
Isn't it lovely!
Paddy
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What is this cute plant in pix 5, a Caryopteris ?
I forgot the names Nicole , but now it is changed .
This is Teucrium aroanium from the Peloponnese . Great plant with nice grey leaves and suitable for hot&dry places. Very low and compact.
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I think it might be Teucrium aroanium.
Isn't it lovely!
Paddy
One of my favourites Paddy . Potterton used to sell it some time ago ...
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David, I will be interested to find out what the flower power is for this plant in Spring. we are always getting questions about the effect of out od season flowering on the radio phone -in and I'd like to have an example of a hellebore to add to our knowledge of such happenings.
I've made a note Maggi, will post pics accordingly.
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I think it might be Teucrium aroanium.
Isn't it lovely!
Paddy
One of my favourites Paddy . Potterton used to sell it some time ago ...
It looks like one I'd like to try - I hope someone collects seed for the Seedex!
cheers
fermi
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Thank you Paddy and Kris :D
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Took these pictures just yesterday and thought you might like to see them.
Firstly our Celmisia longifolia with the 2 trophies it has won this year. Not bragging the plant does all the work itself. Just wanted to point out that the Kirby Cup on the R was won at Blackpool in March and the Millenium trophy on the L at Ponteland in October. It's a super plant that looks good more or less all year round. It was given to us quite a few years ago by a good friend Tim West he used to run Fosse Alpines so a few of you might remember him.
The Correa 'Dusky Maid' is looking particularly good this year and well worth a photograph I thought.
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Just had a thought looking at these plants perhaps I should have put them in the Southern Hemisphere thread. ;D
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Just had a thought looking at these plants perhaps I should have put them in the Southern Hemisphere thread. ;D
Tee Hee! It'll confuse a few folks, for sure!! ;D
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Beautiful plants, Shelagh.
Love the Celmisia especially! The trophies were well deserved.
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Very nice Correa Shelagh ;)
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This is Teucrium aroanium from the Peloponnese . Great plant with nice grey leaves and suitable for hot&dry places. Very low and compact.
That's a beautiful Teucrium. Nice to see low and compact..... only seen a few Teucrium here and they're shrubby and usually a bit lanky. Very nice.
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Shelagh,
Good to see some of my countrymen growing at your place. 8)
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They seem to thrive in sunny Bury, took a bit of a hammering last winter though hope this one isn't as bad.
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only seen a few Teucrium here and they're shrubby and usually a bit lanky. Very nice.
Most or all have smells too. Some great some dreadful. T. ackermannii has deliciously scented foliage but the flowers smell like sewage to the extent that a neighbour just on the other side of the fence from where I had it in a trough, started to dig up his drains to find the leak! In spite of that, I no longer have it and wish I did. T. asiaticum smells like cat's p..!
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On the other side of the Atlantic, I still have a couple of gentians open...Kingfisher and ternifolia 'Dali'
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On the other side of the Atlantic, I still have a couple of gentians open...Kingfisher and ternifolia 'Dali'
...and you also have some sunshine to picture them in... that's a double plus 8)
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Maggie, the sun ALWAYS shines in Newfoundland! LOL!
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Maggie, the sun ALWAYS shines in Newfoundland! LOL!
I thought that was just an 'effect', caused by the sunny dispostion of the Newfies, Todd! :D
Not much sun here... dark and pretty miserable. Not at all like the Scots!! ;D ;D
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Really nice to see the Teucrium aroanium earlier on. I don't know if Robert still grows it but we will propagate it next year. I have it next to T. ackermannii, but fortunately haven't noticed the unpleasant smell of this that Lesley mentions. Perhaps I should refrain from testing it! They are a delightful genus and I seem to be growing more and more of them.
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Todd, I hope you are right ;D
The Teucriums I am familiar with are quite different from yours, Tim!
We have had mild weather, sun and no wind for a whole week. We are not accustomed to that ;)
Morning dew and the last leaves of the tulip tree:
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Really nice to see the Teucrium aroanium earlier on. I don't know if Robert still grows it but we will propagate it next year. I have it next to T. ackermannii, but fortunately haven't noticed the unpleasant smell of this that Lesley mentions. Perhaps I should refrain from testing it! They are a delightful genus and I seem to be growing more and more of them.
Very nice Teucriums Tim ! Like the last one , it looks very compact . Looks really fantastic to me . I didn't heard about it , where it came from ?
Here probably the last flowers of this year ? Stil some buds of Pyrethrum leontopodium opens and Androsace sericea wich always flower in the autumn .
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Allium thunbergii is still going strong...this is a dwarf form...maybe its virgunculae! Valeriana arizonica is also gracing me with a late flower.
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Kris, gorgeous Pyrethrum leontopodium, it is grown from seed?
Todd, Allium thunbergii - just a wonderful plant.
And we have snow and frost ...
That's the last of our flowers after the first frost to -15оС. And cyclamens under foliage and snow let out flower buds....
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Kris, gorgeous Pyrethrum leontopodium, it is grown from seed?
Todd, Allium thunbergii - just a wonderful plant.
And we have snow and frost ...
That's the last of our flowers after the first frost to -15оС. And cyclamens under foliage and snow let out flower buds....
The Lonicera is tough Natalia . The Cyclamen looks really hardy too.
Yes the Pyrethrum is grown from seed . It is not always an easy plant to grow as a mature plant but it is easy to grow from seed. The seeds germinate very wel and the young seedlings doing very wel also. But after that you have to avoid to much moist . I trie it again outside ....and this is not the first time .... :-[
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Tim, the Teurcrium in your second picture which I assume is T. ackermannii, is somewhat different from mine as I had it so maybe we have/had different species. The colour is right but I remember the flowers as being in more cone-shaped heads and the foliage quite a lot greyer. Mind you, it's 20 plus years since I had it and my memory plays tricks nowadays. I really like the third one you show. Have wou nipped and sniffed the foliage? Always worth a try as some are really nicely scented.
I was recently able to replace T. polium I'm pleased to say. I like the combo of white to greyish foliage and lime to yellow flowers.
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Here's a pic, taken today, of next doors Crab Apple Tree which has a smattering of blossom on it. Mind you, about a couple of months ago they took loads of wood off it so I suppose it's compensating. Nice to see some spring blossom in November though.
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David my pear tree has blossom on it now. Never seen anything like this before. Does this mean it won't blossom again in spring.
Angie :)
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Kris, Lonicera it is damaged by frosts... Cyclamens grow well and give self-sowing.
Pyrethrum leontopodium I didn't manage to grow up before flowering - then there was very wet summer: (
David, what charm! Thanks for such photo:)
And at us today weather forecasters promise a snow storm...
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David my pear tree has blossom on it now. Never seen anything like this before. Does this mean it won't blossom again in spring.
Angie :)
Haven't a clue Angie but I bet someone will know.
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Kris - the Teucrium musimonum comes from the Atlas Mountains. I also grow several forms of polium like Lesley mentions with wonderful woolly foliage varying from white to golden-yellow - super plants! I've only seen the Pyrethrum a few times on the showbench and always coveted it, but most plants I now grow outside. So until I make an alpine bed in the greenhouse....
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We took a walk around Culzean Castle Gardens on Sunday and,of course, I did not take my camera. In the walled garden, there was a Magnolia Grandiflora in flower along with an escallonia and a choisya ternata. The last two plants were in full bloom - not just the odd flower which could be expected. In my own garden, I have a primula nana in flower - this should be flowering in February/March. My rhod. xanthocodon is covered in blooms and several other rhodies look as if they will also be flowering. A sudden frost could do some serious damage.
Gardening used to be reasonably predictable as far as the seasons go but now you don't know what to expect.
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Some other lingering alpines...Corydalis lutea, Dracocephalum wallichii and Gentiana veitchiorum.
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Some other lingering alpines...Corydalis lutea, Dracocephalum wallichii and Gentiana veitchiorum.
Isn't it great to have such lovely 'lingerers' ? Had to be carfeul there not to be writing lingerie :o :-[
It is so damp and yucky here that such little gems of colours are much appreciated. Even if we have to search amongst the fallen leaves to find them!
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Kris - the Teucrium musimonum comes from the Atlas Mountains. I also grow several forms of polium like Lesley mentions with wonderful woolly foliage varying from white to golden-yellow - super plants! I've only seen the Pyrethrum a few times on the showbench and always coveted it, but most plants I now grow outside. So until I make an alpine bed in the greenhouse....
Thank you Tim . I put the Teucriums on my wishlist .......
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I put the Teucriums on my wishlist .......
Only three in the SRGC Seedlist ......
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Asphodelus acaulis, thanks to a forum member, ;)
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Very nice Michael.
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Asphodelus acaulis, thanks to a forum member, ;)
:) :) :)
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Some flowers of today ....
Androsace lehmanniana 'Goteborg Yellow'
Caltha scaposa
Cyclamen cilicium
Draba longisiliqua
Ipheion uniflora
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petrocosmea grandiflora
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petrocosmea grandiflora
Crikey! I'd better not show this photo to mine... it'll get feelings of inadequacy :-[
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;D ;D ;D
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:o :o :o :o :o :o
Grandiflora indeed!! ;D And the leaves just look so perfectly arranged.
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Michael, a magnificent miracle!!! You the unsurpassed master! :)
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That's a real cracker Michael.
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petrocosmea grandiflora
Crikey! I'd better not show this photo to mine... it'll get feelings of inadequacy :-[
Neither me :o
Angie :)
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Thanks folks. :)
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Back in August 2010 a friend ordered Adenium seed from Thailand. it seems it was very expensive seed from selfed named plants and promised to come true. He insisted I try some - 5 to be exact and they were tiny. I repotted them, they sulked and shrivelled. In late autumn they were moved to another greenhouse and kept dry until February. This greenhouse had a venting probalem and temps from then on routinely reached 40-50c. I kept them in there but watered them when dry. They neither missed a beat nor had any bug issues.
Suddenly they plumped up and took off like a shot, even the sickliest one. Awaiting those exquisite flowers.
John Grimshaw's Blog recently had an article on them. Big ones are quite wild-looking when they get very old. Native to Yemen (Frazer!) or Socotra (?) so heat should not be an issue though I would have thought humidity might be.
These are in 11cm pots. And now the onus is on me to see if they come true to name as my friend's light stand with several hundred plants collapsed sending the labels every which way. He did rescue the plants though.
Now this was an eye-opener. Why am I finding this just now? http://adenium.tucsoncactus.org/large.html
johnw
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Damn, if sulking and shrivelling produced those results in other things..... I'd give it a go!! ;D They look brilliant.
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Here probably the last flowers of this year ? Stil some buds of Pyrethrum leontopodium opens and Androsace sericea wich always flower in the autumn .
Always great to see all the great stuff here :)
Kris, love that Pyrethrum! I'm developing a bit of an obsession with interesting Compositae!
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petrocosmea grandiflora
Love these, Michael :) I've been watching for Petrocosmea since seeing yours a year or two back, have you seen seed available anywhere?
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No idea where you might get seed, but my plant of begonifolia produced seed last year, and I have a nice tray of seedlings.It was the first time any of them produced seed, and I will be keeping a careful watch this year for seed capsules. If they set any I will keep you in mind.
Cheers.
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Thanks, Michael :)
Congrats, John on your Adenium success thus far :) Although they come from some rather harsh looking places ( and they do love full sun even in warm climates) they appreciate a lot of water while actively growing, as well as regular uppotting and feeding..
I have just one, which lives on my windowsill all year, where it doesn't get the heat or sun it would prefer for most of the year, so is kept dryish to dry when its not getting those things, thus, progress is slow!
I like the variety of leaf and body shapes, though have to say I much prefer the species flowers to the hybrids-- but they are a fascinating example of what can be pulled from a genome!
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We've heard a lot about unseasonable flowering recently but my Oncostema (Scilla) peruviana, after 4 unproductive years, decided to flower this autumn! Inflorescence first noticed at the beginning of October as I was cutting back the lavender around it, fully out 21st November. I lifted it from the bed (it was in a basket like most of my bulbs) and plunged it in a larger pot so we could admire it but now what should I do? Feed it, try and force it into dormancy, or just let it do its own thing?
This my first post here after 'lurking' for a number of years. I have a waterside garden on the Menai Strait so looking forward to several months of damp dark with occasional frost.
Erle Randall
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Hello Erle,
It's great to have you emerge from the bushes! :D
I'd give it some feeding and let it keep going as long as it wants to.... I'm not a great fan of trying to impose my will on the plants if I can help it.... I reckon they mostly have a pretty good reason for what they do..... at least, I hope that's the case. :-\
I have a waterside garden on the Menai Strait so looking forward to several months of damp dark with occasional frost.
We're towards the opposite end and other side of the country... so you have our sympathies... though here we expect damp dark and lots of frost :P
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Thanks for the link John :D A friend has just sent some Adenium obesum seeds to me and advices are really welcome ;)
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Thanks for the link John :D A friend has just sent some Adenium obesum seeds to me and advices are really welcome ;)
Nicole, Adenium are naturally winter dormant, but they will grow anytime you can give them lots of warmth, strong light and water.. seedlings are very cute...
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A few things in the garden. Paddy
Callicarpa 'Profusion' berries
Argemone mexicana
Iris unguicularis 'Kilbroney Marble'
Galactites tomentosa
Fuchsia 'Mrs. Popple'
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Erie,
Welcome to the forum. By coincidence, we were talking last night about your area, the beautiful Menai Straits and north Wales in general. Bodnant Gardens are a treasure, Beau Maris is a delight and there are many other places we love there.
Paddy
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A few things in the garden. Paddy
Callicarpa 'Profusion' berries
Argemone mexicana
Iris unguicularis 'Kilbroney Marble'
Galactites tomentosa
Fuchsia 'Mrs. Popple'
Still summer over there Paddy? ;D 8) 8)
We had our first moderate autumn gale today, so not much left in flower after this.
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A few things in the garden. Paddy
Callicarpa 'Profusion' berries
Argemone mexicana
Iris unguicularis 'Kilbroney Marble'
Galactites tomentosa
Fuchsia 'Mrs. Popple'
Wow, Paddy- impressive! Today was warm- up to 12C or more! -and greatly reduced the snow on the ground, but its far from gone all over, and still piles where its been shovelled.. no mistaking this for anything but winter! Flowers (outdoors) are a distant memory!
Great colour on the berries :)
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2 Asarum in flower, one probably at the correct time of the year (hongkongense), the other too early (megacalyx).
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How are their leaves Pascal ?
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Hongkongense evenly dark green. That is an almost subtropical species that only grows at very few places in Hong Kong and is very rare. Megacalyx comes in a variety of leaf types similar to a lot of Asarum, especially those from Japan. The one on the picture has a leaf with many white spots but I also grow an evenly green leaved form that flowers green. Megacalyx is a species that looses its leaves during winter so I can't show it to you now, will try to remember in spring to take a picture. Even the species that retain their leaves generally are not at their best now and usually will produce a new batch of leaves in spring that show the patterns better.
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Thank you Pascal :D ;)
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Wow, Pascal. I love the megacalyx...... even more unearthly than most of them. Very different to those I've seen before.
Keep em coming!! ;D
Thanks.
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2 Asarum in flower, one probably at the correct time of the year (hongkongense), the other too early (megacalyx).
Very cool!
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Luit & Cohan,
Many thanks for your kind comments. The photographs were taken on an exceptional day for this time of year, good sunshine and warm.
By contrast, today had very heavy rain and gale-force winds and was spent indoors reading.
Paddy
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Paddy,
I meant to comment on your pics but got wrapped up in those Asarum. ::) Sorry.
The Argemone mexicana is amazing. Never seen anything quite like it? Reminds me a bit of the horned poppies, but much spikier by the look of it? That and the lovely purple thistle!! ;D Thanks for the lovely pics. 8)
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You're welcome, Paul.
Hope all is going well at home.
Paddy