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Title: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 01, 2011, 11:31:04 AM
What an exciting time in the nursery, with spring in the air, and flowers bursting out all over the place.
The irises of course will have pride of place for the next couple of months with treasures like Iris gracilipes alba, Iris verna a few PC's and MDB irises flowering at the moment and starting off the Iris season.
Happy gardening.  Bill

Iris gracilipes
Iris verna
PCI Lilac Lullaby
PCI Starshine Bright
PCI Blue seedlings
MDB Yellow Doll
MDB Dark Vader

Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 01, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
I like those, especially Dark Vader. 8) Here are two Watsonias from The King.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 02, 2011, 07:16:35 PM
Do you know which they are Anthony? I have W. coccinea which Dave Toole gave me. It's very like the redder one, but it varies between light orange and rich red so these could even be the same? Mine's nowhere near out yet but this is not the banana/mango/pineapple belt that is Tauranga ::)

No, not the same now I have a magnified look. I like the dark stems on the first one.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 02, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I would love to know the name of the dwarf one that would look fantastic in my greenhouse.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 02, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
I think it is coccinea or something very close. If I's known earlier Davey I could have sent seed. It's sown now and germinated. Next year hopefully?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 02, 2011, 08:43:54 PM
I think it is coccinea or something very close. If I's known earlier Davey I could have sent seed. It's sown now and germinated. Next year hopefully?
Lesley i have always stayed away from Watsonias thinking them to large a plant to house in the greenhouse,but that one is lovely and small and yes yes yes if you do get seed please think of me. ;D
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on October 02, 2011, 09:06:37 PM
Davey, Watsonia laccata  only grows to about 45cm and is a good greenhouse plant.

See below
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 02, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
I got them both from Bill Dijk. The dwarf one is 25 cm tall. The other more than double that. I will see if they produce seed.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 03, 2011, 06:00:44 AM
I think there are several low-growing species Davey and certainly there is a range of low hybrids in various pinks, red, paler and darker. These could be the work of Terry Hatch or his son at Pukekohe, near Auckland.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 03, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
I think there are several low-growing species Davey and certainly there is a range of low hybrids in various pinks, red, paler and darker. These could be the work of Terry Hatch or his son at Pukekohe, near Auckland.

Yes Terry Hatch was responsible for hybridising a large selection of these dwarf Watsonia's.
Somewhere in the nursery I still have a few containers of these dwarf bulbs floating around, must find them and if they set seed, will be more than happy to share the seed.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 03, 2011, 07:36:43 PM
Thank you everybody but i feel you awakened a sleeping giant in me.
Michael do you recommend any others.I have just ordered a few sp seed. ;D ;D
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on October 03, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Davey, this is the only other small one I have and I don't have a name for it,grows to about 60cm, more erect than laccata and the flowers are more tubular. I will have some spare corms next summer if you remind me,unfortunately too late this year as they have  started into growth and are 10cm already.

Cheers
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 03, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
Davey, this is the only other small one I have and I don't have a name for it,grows to about 60cm, more erect than laccata and the flowers are more tubular. I will have some spare corms next summer if you remind me,unfortunately too late this year as they have  started into growth and are 10cm already.

Cheers
OMG :oThat is stunning Michael,i would love a corm if you have spare next summer.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on October 03, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
No problem Davey, I have put your name on file for next summer.

Cheers.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ezeiza on October 04, 2011, 02:20:05 AM
Watsonia aletroides
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 04, 2011, 03:14:15 AM
Two minds with but a single thought Alberto. I won't finish the quotation. ;D This Watsonia is quite hardy in NZ gardens at least and multiplies well to a good clump.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 04, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
Watsonia aletroides
I presume you mean the plant in photo  DSC03764.JPG in post #11 on the previous page?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: jandals on October 06, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
I don't grow early flowering bulbs so I have to wait a bit longer for flowers . Things are under way here now though

Clematis marmoraria

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Lewisia tweedyi alba

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Lewisia tweedyi

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Meconopsis pseudointegrifolia

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Paeonia lutea

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Caltha palustris alba

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Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 06, 2011, 11:43:15 AM
Great selection of pictures of those good plants, Steve.
It's turned very cold here... around three degrees at nearly mid-day although bright and sunny.... your shots of Spring are very welcome... the choccie biccies are very sustaining, I'm delighted to say! ;)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 06, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Travelling north to Timaru today for beginning of Trillium Weekend tomorrow. Tonight I'll have dinner out with my son and daughter, having already unpacked and set out plants for the weekend's sales area. There are to be 9 stalls including some very good growers so I probably won't bring much money home. :( but will enjoy the weekend immensely, I'm sure.

Tim arrives very early tomorrow morning, arround 2.30am I imagine so I shan't wait up for him. One of his two sons is also coming, a budding grower I think. :)

Hopefully I'll have some pictures to post after I get home late Monday.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 06, 2011, 10:09:17 PM
Have a great weekend, Lesley! Please give our good wishes to all our Chums who'll you'll be seeing......
I've got my possum socks from Bron McCone on... it's been cold here today and I needed something cosy for the evening!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 07, 2011, 09:03:15 AM
Spring definitely here, with 20oC and gloriously sunny today. Not sure what the tree is.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 10, 2011, 09:23:19 PM
I did do, Maggi, as far as I could. It was a full on weekend with 112 registrations. We had brilliant weather for the two days tho' Monday turned cold again.

I have masses of pictures but will start a new thread for them, unless either Susan, Dave or Doug has already done that.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 10, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
Anthony can you do a close-up of the flower please? I have a couple of tree IDs I want too and will put the pics on the new thread.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 11, 2011, 07:24:42 AM
Thank you dear Southern Hemisphere friends! You remind me spring will come.  :)

jandals, Lewisia tweedyi Alba is a real gem!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 11, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
My Lewisia tweedyi alba and "ordinary" (pink) tweedyi, looked thoroughly miserable until I realized they need BUCKETS of water. I was lucky enough to be able to buy two yellow tweedyi plants (in full flower) at the Trillium Weekend. Rasied by Doreen Mear I think. There were some wonderful things for sale. :D
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 11, 2011, 11:26:55 AM
Lesley, I am full of jealousy.  :)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 11, 2011, 11:37:48 AM
Anthony can you do a close-up of the flower please? I have a couple of tree IDs I want too and will put the pics on the new thread.
Here it is Lesley. There is no stalk on the flower.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 11, 2011, 08:26:34 PM
Do you think it is some kind of cherry Anthony? Whatever, it is very beautiful.

Olga I have a batch of young pinks raised from seed David Nicholson sent to me and they haven't flowered yet but I intend to keep them all until they do and hopefully get some seed of my own. I had 2 whites, both from seed and cross pollinated them but no seed. They were too dry I think and I know better now. The yellows (2) are also from seed, from Ashwoods in the UK and I am already crossing those even though theyre young plants.  IF there is any seed on any of them, you shall have some. :)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Onion on October 11, 2011, 09:47:22 PM
Anthony,

can it be Prunus mume? A cherry as Lesley mentioned.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 11, 2011, 11:26:56 PM
I seem to remember cherries having long stalks? These flowers have no stalks. Here are some more pics:
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on October 12, 2011, 01:09:33 AM
Hi All,

After a long absence from this forum I have emerged from winter with these two fritillaria pitures.

Fritillaria affinis Yellow Form
and
Fritillaria moggeridgei (8 years from Goteborg seed)

Cheers, Marcus
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 12, 2011, 05:17:55 AM
Really nice yellows Marcus. I have good germination of the yellow affinis from the local frit group. F. aurea from Pilous took 3 & 1/2 years from germination to flowering.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on October 13, 2011, 03:22:29 AM
Hi Lesley,

Don't know how you did it with F. aurea it is a real foot-dragger with me.

I offer up two of my personal favourites in the dwarf iris clan. Both sourced from Rannweig Wallis some years ago now, the yellow one is a Farrer Medal Winner. Both are non-stop flowerers and I am sometimes concerend they will kill themselves in the process!

Cheers, Marcus

Iris suaveolens purple
Iris suaveolens Yellow
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 13, 2011, 05:26:01 AM
Here's a little treasure - I think Cynthia showed it last year,
Kennedia microphylla
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The lovely Oenothera acaulis [no, Mark, I haven't forgotten to look to seeds!]
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and one I prepared earlier ;D re-opening pink this morning,
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The last couple of jonquilla daffs, "Clare"
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and "Flo-May"
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: kiwi on October 13, 2011, 06:04:26 AM
Nice pics everyone.
Salix magnifica - what other name would be any more suitable?
Cypripedium formosanum
Fritillaria biflora
Arisaema sikokianum
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on October 13, 2011, 07:33:17 AM
I seem to remember cherries having long stalks? These flowers have no stalks. Here are some more pics:
Your tree reminds me of Prunus persica 'Double White'!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on October 13, 2011, 07:45:19 AM
Nice pics everyone.
Salix magnifica - what other name would be any more suitable?
Cypripedium formosanum
Fritillaria biflora
Arisaema sikokianum


So you grow Salix magnifica, Doug. I was wondering if I was the only one ;D


Here's a little treasure - I think Cynthia showed it last year,
Kennedia microphylla

The lovely Oenothera acaulis [no, Mark, I haven't forgotten to look to seeds!]
and one I prepared earlier ;D re-opening pink this morning,

The last couple of jonquilla daffs, "Clare"

and "Flo-May"

cheers
fermi

Fermi, Beautiful Kennedia! Is it hardy? - and is it easy from seed?  :D

It is nice to see your flowers when the snow covers the ground around here! I'm going down to lower elevation this evening 8)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 13, 2011, 09:44:00 AM
I seem to remember cherries having long stalks? These flowers have no stalks. Here are some more pics:
Your tree reminds me of Prunus persica 'Double White'!
I thought it might be a peach of some kind, but had only ever seen pink flowered forms? Thanks.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 13, 2011, 12:41:14 PM
Yes, the infamous RENA container ship, stuck on the reef, is fast turning into an absolute environmental, ecological and economic disaster.
We live only 10 minutes away from the Pacific Ocean beach here in Tauranga, but I was devastated by the sight and damage done to the golden beaches, birdlife and impact on the fishing operations. Oil is the biggest environmental problem, covering 17 kilometres of coastline, (expecting to increase to 40 km), with more than 1400 tons of oil still on board the ship which is now starting to break up, with a large crack developing in the hull on starboard, hopefully the authorities will salvage the oil of the ship before that happens. If that’s not enough, now 80 containers have fallen off the badly listing ship, which further pollute the beaches, when they spill their sometimes corrosive contents.  
It will be a big expensive job and will take a long time before the beaches will return to their former beautiful state and the social and psychological impact it has on the environmental disaster in Tauranga.
Just a few pictures taken early this morning.
Bill  
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 13, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
What a ghastly mess, Bill. That will take some work to clean up and heaven knows the amount of lasting damage done.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lina Hesseling on October 13, 2011, 01:08:14 PM
Hello Bill,

What a disaster! I was already wondering who of the forumists live in the area. With these pictures it is very clear how big the consequents are for the environment. This will take a long time indeed to recover.

Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 13, 2011, 01:24:31 PM
Amongst the debris thousand of packs of precooked burger patties over many kilometers, all the way from Dunedin.
The seagulls will have a ball feasting on this unexpected bonanza from the sea, if only they would know how to open the packets.
Do you know this company Lesley?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fleurbleue on October 13, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quite sorry for what has happened in your country  :'(
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 13, 2011, 09:43:01 PM
Bill there's a company at Green Island (nearby) which makes such stuff. It's probably them. They're called Ansco I think. NOT their fault the b....y ship reefed itself though. On the early news this morning they said the beach was oiled for more than 67kms now, and that was then, at first light.

When will it all end? Pike River, Christchurch, now this?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 14, 2011, 04:34:59 AM
Says Anzco on the packets. If they were made in Dunedin, what were they doing on a container ship? Were they being shipped out of Tauranga?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 14, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Says Anzco on the packets. If they were made in Dunedin, what were they doing on a container ship? Were they being shipped out of Tauranga?

Anthony, I suppose the container with burger patties were destined for export, and the RENA coming into Tauranga port to pick up more export cargo, never made it because it got stranded on the reef, as a result of incompetent navigation.
Crews on flag-of-convenience ships, like the grounded cargo ship Rena, which are registered in countries where there is little enforcement of international labour, safety and environmental regulations are forced to work long hours, in unsafe working conditions, for low pay.
Yet the captain and officers are not necessarily familiar with the unpredictable sea conditions and local marine knowledge here, nor are they obliged to comply with New Zealand maritime rules and regulations."
Ships owned in one country but registered in another are described as flying flags of convenience.
More than half the world's merchant ships are registered in flag-of-convenience states like Panama, Liberia and the Marshall Islands.
The International Transport Workers' Federation lists 32 flag-of-convenience registries in countries that are unable or unwilling to enforce international labour, safety and environmental laws, rules and regulations.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
One musn't pre-judge - and there will certainly be several enquiries as to the cause of the grounding - but it is said the captain, a Philipino, was celebrating his birthday the night they grounded.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 14, 2011, 10:16:48 PM
It is said the captain, a Philipino, was celebrating his birthday the night they grounded.

I rest my case your honour!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 14, 2011, 11:30:39 PM
I have heard she was 3 miles off course!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: jandals on October 19, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
First flower on Paeonia cambessedesii

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Lots of yummy rain yesterday
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 19, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
Is this a species of Mesembryanthemum?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2011, 08:13:29 AM
Is this a species of Mesembryanthemum?
Hi Anthony,
Yes, or a cultivar - the sort of thing NZers like to call "ice-plants" and Aussies tend to call "Pig-face".
Here are some of ours on our driveway - very traditional way of growing'em over here ;D
Actually these have seeded into the drive!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 21, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
My mum called the annual mesembryanthemums ice plants. The leaves look as if they have been coated in crushed ice. Confusion arises when you are told ice plants attract butterflies, so your mum fills the garden with them, only to find out Sedum spectabile is also sometimes called the ice plant! ::)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 25, 2011, 08:12:07 AM
The Ferny Creek Horticultural Society had its Flower Festival last weekend - it used to be called "The Rhododendron Festival" so I thought I'd better take some pics for Maggi!
Waratah and Protea Centrepiece
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Rh lindleyi
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Rh nuttallii
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Rh occidentale
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Rh yakushimanum
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cheers
fermi
Title: FCHS Show
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 25, 2011, 08:31:33 AM
More from the Show,
the rhodies on the bench,
sorry, the names didn't come out!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ezeiza on October 25, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
Anthony, they may be Delospermas, there are many of them.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 26, 2011, 11:59:57 PM
For those who thought that Rhodies were the only things at the Show, here are a few others,
the Blue Ribbon winner in Rock Garden Potted plants: Fritillaria grayana (biflora "Martha Roderick")
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A huge selection of Sarcochilus orchids
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Urticularia ....from Brazil
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And Masdevallia (Maxillaria) cogniauxiana from Peru
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: kiwi on October 28, 2011, 08:09:37 AM
Some delicious Rhodies there Fermides, cheers.
The garden is coming to life, a few shots from this afternoon.....
Myosotis cheesmanii.
Celmisia bellidioides.
Myosotidium hortensia.
A Salix pot looking good.
My daughters favourite plant, the bleeding heart.
Celmisia discolor - looks great even before the flowers open!
Cheers, Doug.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: kiwi on October 28, 2011, 08:28:22 AM
Some minature Iris's coming into flower this weekend.
Rhododendron 'Princess of Haddinton' - Will be bagged up within a week!
Tree paeonia.
Celmisia hybrids.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Natalia on October 28, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
Doug, you have wonderful Myosotis cheesmanii and Myosotidium hortensia! My congratulations!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 29, 2011, 07:59:39 AM
All of them nice plants Doug ,especially the natives  ;)

Here's a couple of Clematis ,from the diminutive native C.petriei to about 2 metres rambling through a fuchsia --- lovely citrus like scent that wafts into our dining room when the windows are open, followed by Clematis montana --firstly the larger vine now climbing beyond 18 metres in height and secondly a younger one nearer the house .

Cheers Dave. 
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fleurbleue on October 29, 2011, 08:34:28 AM
 :o  What a wonderful sight !  ;)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 29, 2011, 10:02:04 AM
The vine near the house used to grow beyond the vanilla tree it's currently on ,right up into the natives at the back. A storm 3/4 years ago bought down a very large limb and most of the top half of the Clematis.

A couple of early morning pics.....

--dew on Azalea
--sun on Azalea.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 29, 2011, 10:55:33 AM
This is the elusive, temperamental Iris minutoaurea, barely 2.5 cm (1inch) across,  native to Japan and China,
Unfortunately shy-flowering, but managed two flowers this time, double from the one flower last season, I am making progress.
Must try again, and find a spot in the nursery that is dryer and get a real good baking, will try anything
They are perfect for troughs or a choice spot in the rock garden, if only......
How did your division perform Lesley that I send you, any luck?
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 29, 2011, 11:16:01 AM
Cute 8)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 29, 2011, 11:18:33 AM
While we are on the subject of irises, here are a few of the Pacific Coast irises named and a few new seedlings.
Always exciting, when they flower for the first time, something to look forward to every season.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 29, 2011, 11:31:02 AM
Just a few more. Enjoy.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on October 29, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
Beautiful, Bill. What lovely colours. I saw an exhibit of paintings of these flowers which had so many different colours overlaid - very memorable.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 29, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
I suppose those frilly showgirls have a certain charm, but for  me the I. minutoaurea is the real show stopper.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 29, 2011, 12:08:06 PM
I suppose those frilly showgirls have a certain charm, but for  me the I. minutoaurea is the real show stopper.
I couldn't agree more.Well done Bill.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 30, 2011, 12:48:02 AM
This is the elusive, temperamental Iris minutoaurea, barely 2.5 cm (1inch) across,  native to Japan and China,
Must try again, and find a spot in the nursery that is dryer and get a real good baking, will try anything

Hello Bill

Not sure if this helps with our climates being so different,however i find it easy to a point that one of my clumps about a fortnight ago had 20 flowers .

No part of this property can be called 'baked'   :), and although it is in a partially sunny position growing in a sand bed with very minimal humus, you can see it probably needs more light as the leaves are well advanced at flowering time.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 30, 2011, 01:05:03 AM
Glaucidium palmatum is such a wonderful woodland plant --i couldn't help but take a pic or two yesterday.

I have planted close by ,some seedlings of the white form --if these come true it will be interesting to see what colour variations occur over time......

Cheers Dave. 
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 30, 2011, 01:15:49 AM
The piece of I. minutoaurea you sent to me Bill, is doing very well, potted and growing strongly but as yet hasn't flowered. No sign of buds this spring.

I think Toolie's pics say it all really. Every reference I've read regarding this iris says cool and moist raither than hot and dry.

The PCIs look good. Some of those seem to have their origins with Mary Barrell, past President of NZIS. I ordered and received seed of several of the Karapiro series in the June seedlist of the Society. Nothing up yet (the seed was distributed very late) but I hope they will, in time produce some interesting plants.

Doug, may I suggest that your Myosotis cheesemanii is, in fact. M. colensoi? The grey foliage is typical of that. Mine is well in bud but needs another day ot two then I'll take a photo. What we generally grow as M. cheesemanii is the brown-leaved plant available from Hokonui but David Lyttle says it isn't and maybe is an undescribed species.

Dave, the unflowered seedling of G. palmatum from Louise and I think from Alistair's stock, did come pure white which pleased me very much.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 30, 2011, 01:45:38 AM
Glaucidium palmatum is such a wonderful woodland plant --i couldn't help but take a pic or two yesterday.

I have planted close by ,some seedlings of the white form --if these come true it will be interesting to see what colour variations occur over time......

Cheers Dave. 

Dave - Superb photos of your fresh looking Glaucidium. You've made my day.

johnw   
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 30, 2011, 01:29:19 AM
I need more pots! ::)
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 30, 2011, 04:45:54 AM
Hello Bill   Not sure if this helps with our climates being so different,however i find it easy to a point that one of my clumps about a fortnight ago had 20 flowers .
No part of this property can be called 'baked'   :), and although it is in a partially sunny position growing in a sand bed with very minimal humus, you can see it probably needs more light as the leaves are well advanced at flowering time.
Cheers Dave.  

Dave, now you got me all upset and envious ;D ;D, at this rate it will take me another 10 years to catch up with your record number of 20 flowers.
I think you might be right, this little iris must be happier in the South Island with the cooler temps.
I will try different micro cooler spots and the sand bed in the nursery and try to get even close to your 20 flowers. Well done,  I am still jealous  ;D ;D
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 30, 2011, 06:29:04 AM

Dave, the unflowered seedling of G. palmatum from Louise and I think from Alistair's stock, did come pure white which pleased me very much.

Pleased to hear that it comes true Lesley ---my young seedlings are only from last years AGS of BC seedex ,however they have grown so well i planted them out recently. .


Dave - Superb photos of your fresh looking Glaucidium. You've made my day.

johnw   


Thanks John
Benefit of taking shots early in the morning i guess and also I'm becoming more confident in using the manual settings on the SLR --It's only taken me a year ........ :D


Dave, now you got me all upset and envious ;D ;D,  Well done, I am still jealous  ;D ;D

Envy goes both ways Bill   ;D--i look at some of your beautifully grown South African bulbs and i drool....

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 30, 2011, 07:25:41 AM
This is the elusive, temperamental Iris minutoaurea, barely 2.5 cm (1inch) across,  native to Japan and China,
Must try again, and find a spot in the nursery that is dryer and get a real good baking, will try anything

Hello Bill

Not sure if this helps with our climates being so different,however i find it easy to a point that one of my clumps about a fortnight ago had 20 flowers .

No part of this property can be called 'baked'   :), and although it is in a partially sunny position growing in a sand bed with very minimal humus, you can see it probably needs more light as the leaves are well advanced at flowering time.

Cheers Dave.
Dave if your little stunner happerns to form seed would it be possible to get a few.......pretty please! ;D
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 30, 2011, 10:29:34 AM
This is the elusive, temperamental Iris minutoaurea, barely 2.5 cm (1inch) across,  native to Japan and China,
Must try again, and find a spot in the nursery that is dryer and get a real good baking, will try anything

Hello Bill

Not sure if this helps with our climates being so different,however i find it easy to a point that one of my clumps about a fortnight ago had 20 flowers .

No part of this property can be called 'baked'   :), and although it is in a partially sunny position growing in a sand bed with very minimal humus, you can see it probably needs more light as the leaves are well advanced at flowering time.

Cheers Dave.
Dave if your little stunner happerns to form seed would it be possible to get a few.......pretty please! ;D

If it's sets seed, me too, please, Dave  :-* :-*.... I'm in love with the little cracker!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: JohnLonsdale on October 30, 2011, 01:23:15 PM
Hi,

I'm not sure about Iris minutoaurea's need for cooler temperatures and more moisture.  The ones shown in flower here get a good deal of direct summer sun and temperatures in the 80s and 90s F for several months. They also get pretty dry in summer, certainly never constantly moist.  The ones in more shade flower less well.  See:

http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/Plants_album/The%20Plants%20-%20%20Complete%20Collection/Iridaceae/Iris/Subgen%20Limniris%20Sect%20Limniris%20Ser%20Chinenses/I.%20minutoaurea/index.html

5" of snow here, with trees still in leaf, and the fall crocuses in full bloom.  The snow should be gone by day's end, but the broken trees won't.

Best,

J.

Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 30, 2011, 06:40:01 PM

5" of snow here, with trees still in leaf, and the fall crocuses in full bloom.  The snow should be gone by day's end, but the broken trees won't.

Best,

J.

Just seen this report.... "At least three people have been killed as a rare early season snow storm hit the east coast of the US, causing traffic chaos on roads, flight delays and massive power outages.

Governors have declared states of emergency in New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts and parts of New York as the freak winter storm dumped record-breaking snow as it churned from the Mid-Atlantic to New England.

In Pennsylvania, which was worst-hit by the storm, an 84-year-old man reportedly died when a tree toppled onto his house while he slept.

Another man was electrocuted by fallen powerlines on the side of a road in Springfield, while a motorist died in a traffic accident caused by icy road conditions in Colchester.

Residents have been urged to avoid travel altogether with many roads closed and speed limits reduced across affected areas.

Dozens of planes have also been grounded with passenger's facing long delays, as the National Weather Service says high winds and more wet, heavy snow is expected.

As many as 2.7 million homes and businesses have lost power in the storm with officials warning that it could be days before it is fully restored.

"A historic October storm is still crushing New England with heavy snow and howling winds," US meteorologist Meghan Evans said on Sunday.

The storm blanketed New York city's Central Park with 1.3 inches (3.3cm) of snow, breaking an 86-year-old record set on October 30, 1925, of 0.8 inches (2.3cm).

Canada's east coast is now braced for the wild weather, with forecasters predicting up to 20cm of snow for parts of southern New Brunswick.

The storm is also expected to hit south western Nova Scotia with high winds and up to 35mm of rain." .....
pretty bad weather for October.  We Scots will keep quiet meantime, we're  much luckier than this.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on October 31, 2011, 06:50:25 AM

Dave if your little stunner happerns to form seed would it be possible to get a few.......pretty please! ;D
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If it's sets seed, me too, please, Dave  :-* :-*.... I'm in love with the little cracker!

I'll see what i can do Davey and Maggie.

Hi,

I'm not sure about Iris minutoaurea's need for cooler temperatures and more moisture.  The ones shown in flower here get a good deal of direct summer sun and temperatures in the 80s and 90s F for several months. They also get pretty dry in summer, certainly never constantly moist.  The ones in more shade flower less well.  See:

http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/Plants_album/The%20Plants%20-%20%20Complete%20Collection/Iridaceae/Iris/Subgen%20Limniris%20Sect%20Limniris%20Ser%20Chinenses/I.%20minutoaurea/index.html



Best,

J.

Gee John
I hope Bill is sitting down when he views your pics as it appears mine is just a tiddler  ;D

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 31, 2011, 07:17:53 AM
I've had I. minutoaurea off and on over 40 years I would say and have never seen a seed pod. It's quite possible that all the material in NZ comes from a single clone from many years ago. I may be wrong but I have a slight memory about Mark McDonough growing it and getting seed. Worth an enquiry as he seems to have a number of those little species from the far east.

I'll be glad when this beastly day is finished but there are more to come.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 31, 2011, 07:19:45 AM
Just looked at John L's link. Oh My God!!!!!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 31, 2011, 07:49:46 AM
Sorry, I've been away from the Forum for a few days and had little time before to post the rest of the pics from the FCHS Show, so here are some more!
Firstly more from the Rock Garden Section
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 31, 2011, 07:55:58 AM
Some of the Floral Art
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 31, 2011, 08:03:29 AM
Some Vireya Rhododendrons,
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 31, 2011, 08:13:28 AM
Some Australian Native flowers
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tim Ingram on October 31, 2011, 09:43:18 AM
Fermi - and here's one in our garden! Grevillea rosmarinifolia 'williamsi', a really good coloured form of the species that is said to have arisen in New Zealand in the 1920's (according to that wonderful tome 'The Grevillea Book'). It flowers almost continuously throughout the year and withstood our tough last winter (though admittedly tucked up against the house). I find the Australian Proteaceae completely fascinating, as is typical of a gardener living in a place where very few of them can be grown!!
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: kiwi on October 31, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Hi Lesley,

Myosotis cheesemanii is very close to M. colensoi (Kirk) J.F.Macbr. from which it differs by its low cushion-forming rather than open mat-forming habit, uniform rather than variable leaf hair length, short rather than long lateral branches which unlike M. colensoi do not extend beyond the rosettes. Both species are also ecologically distinct; M. colensoi is confined to limestone rock and associated soils, M. cheesemanii a high alpine of cushionfield and snow banks.
NZPCN

Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: JohnLonsdale on October 31, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
I've had I. minutoaurea off and on over 40 years I would say and have never seen a seed pod. It's quite possible that all the material in NZ comes from a single clone from many years ago. I may be wrong but I have a slight memory about Mark McDonough growing it and getting seed. Worth an enquiry as he seems to have a number of those little species from the far east.


Lesley,

I usually get seed on koreana, odaesanensis and henryi, but never collected any from minutoaurea.

Would be happy to send you some.

Best,

John
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 01, 2011, 03:59:33 AM
Yesterday I visited a small section of bush at Point View reserve about 10 minutes from where I live. When, in 1769, Captain James T. Cook boldly went where no one (at least from Whitby, Yorkshire) had boldly gone before and 'discovered' New Zealand, he saw that the local inhabitants ate the unexpanded leaf bud at the top of the trunk of the nikau palm (Rhopalostylis sapida) as a vegetable. It is New Zealand's only native palm and the most southerly growing species of palm. It was also eaten by members of his 1769 expedition to New Zealand. Members of the expedition referred to the nikau palm as "cabbage tree" or "cabbage palm". This name soon came to also refer to Cordyline australis, so that by the time the first European settlers arrived it was used almost exclusively as a common name for the Cordyline. The reserve is also full of ponga - the silver fern (Cyathea dealbata) and mamaku - the black tree fern (C. medullaris).
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ray on November 02, 2011, 02:44:11 AM
Some of my Hosta's doing heaps better out in the ground,not to bad for snail yet.bye Ray
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 02, 2011, 03:06:27 AM
Your hostas are looking great Ray. I love those little forms. I saw some great plants with psychodelic colours today, in the damp garden of my overnight hostess in Ashburton where I'd gone to do a Crocus talk last night. In the drizzle and rain the lime and gold shade stand out so well and contrast beautifully with the blue kinds. Love them all.
Title: Re: October 2011 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ezeiza on November 02, 2011, 03:50:03 AM
Ray, it is not common to see such fine Hostas in a mild climate like yours.
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