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Title: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on September 05, 2011, 08:19:26 PM
The AGS Ulster Group have their biennial snowdrop day

Saturday February 18th 2012 10am to 4 or 5pm

On show are two fabulous snowdrop gardens and a garden with 10s of 1000s of G. nivalis and Crocus tommasinianus.

Book flights now for cheap deals. I can pick up 4 people from Belfast International airport which is 4 miles from my house
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: freddyvl on September 12, 2011, 09:22:22 PM
Schneeglöckchen Tage in Nettetal (Oirlich, Deutschland)
25. und 26. Februar 2012 jeweils von 10.00-17.00

Snowdrop days Nettetal (Oirlich, Germany)
February 25th and 26th 2012 from 10 AM - 5 PM
with Avon Bulbs, Monksilver and many others

See: www.oirlicher-blumengarten.de/seiten/offene-tuer/offene-tuer.html

. For John (Kentgardener): My offer from last year is still valid. Once you have to make it to Belgium  ;)
. For Hagen: 700 km should be no problem for ..... snowdrops !!!!!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on September 12, 2011, 09:44:36 PM
Freddy,
snowdrops under hamamelis, there is only one place I like so much .......
At first it was a long way to snowdrops,
now it`s a short way to friends.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on September 12, 2011, 11:46:55 PM
Freddy and Hagen, we will be there!!!!!!!!!!! We are looking forward to this! And Hagen, I like the way you say this.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on September 13, 2011, 12:11:44 AM

Quote
At first it was a long way to snowdrops,
now it`s a short way to friends.

I agree, Lina.... Hagen captures all that is wonderful about the combination of beautiful  flowers and good friends  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on September 13, 2011, 08:37:29 PM
Did any UK-base forumists make it to Nettetal last year?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on September 15, 2011, 11:15:49 PM
Slightly wider question; could others based in the UK suggest which European snowdrop do's are most worth attending based on their experience? Happy to receive PMs if preferred.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on September 15, 2011, 11:32:24 PM
More like who is organising a bus?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on September 16, 2011, 12:03:40 PM
Did any UK-base forumists make it to Nettetal last year?
KentGardener John did.... isn't there some news of that here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6670.0    ........ I remember spectacular cakes and puddings..... at this time of year John is probably busy taking his exotic tropical plants indoors for the winter..... he'll be around soon, I expect!  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: GoodGrief on September 18, 2011, 11:31:13 AM
More like who is organising a bus?

Was rather hoping to get to some of the German/Belgium/Dutch events next year.
Pity, I recall the organised 'coach trip' last season got cancelled from lack of interest (or was that lack of funds?).

Malcolm.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Gerard Oud on September 19, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
Our SnowdropGala will be held on the 18 and 19 th of February 2012!

We do have 3 or 4 more participants next year so we keep growing and growing.
The website needs updating but will happen soon!

www.sneeuwklokjesgala.nl
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on September 19, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
May be able to make it next year Gerard,in fact just checking my shift pattern if it does not clash with the Gala,we shall be over
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on October 02, 2011, 10:53:08 AM
I fly to Madeira on Feb 18th for my fathers 80th birthday so am going to miss just about every snowdrop event in 2011.   ::)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 02, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
John, and I thought I could meet you at home next year.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on October 02, 2011, 12:05:55 PM
I could always pop over for a weekend in March if there are still flowers to see near your place.   ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on October 10, 2011, 11:06:10 AM
Does anyone know of any more snowdrop 2012 dates either in the UK or Belgium/Holland? Maggie, is anything known about Edinburgh or Dunblane dates?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 11:21:26 AM
Dunblane Early Bulb Day is on 18th February.... this year it will be "Cyclamen Day" ..... speakers are Melvyn Jope and Martyn Denny.  8)

As yet I know nothing about any Snowdrop event at Edinburgh but Ian the Christie Kind will likely have more info in due course.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 11:33:17 AM
This is the only Snowdrop info  for 2012 I can find at the moment... no word on the RBGE site at all as  yet.

http://www.cambosnowdrops.com/
For Scottish Snowdrop Festival....
1st February - 13th March - Open Daily 10 to 5pm
Snowdrops by Starlight 2012
11 to 19 February
If you would like any further information on any of the events
please contact Cambo by telephone on 01333 450054 or email  cambo@camboestate.com


http://www.perthshire.co.uk/index.asp?lm=428

http://atholl-estates.co.uk/event-detail.cfm/event_ID/466/title/Snow%20Drop%20Festival%20at%20Blair%20Castle
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 10, 2011, 08:39:49 PM
Can anyone help me with the date of world famous galanthus Gala 2012? I would try to accede holy galanthus ground of Great Britain next year, but I don`t know when the best time could be??
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 08:44:25 PM
Keep an eye on this link, Hagen... all the details will appear there, I am sure: http://monksilver.gerard-payne.net/galanthus-gala/
Edit by maggi: it seems this is NOT an official monksilver site!
Don't ask me what's going on, I haven't a clue... these snowdrop folks are a law unto themselves, it seems. :-\ ???
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 10, 2011, 08:48:25 PM
the exactly date isn`t given? Can I understand it right, Maggi?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 08:54:57 PM
The exact date wasn't shown there, Hagen... but I find this.......

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7697.0  for information about  Snowdrop Study Day at The Garden House Thursday 9 February  2012

And this site tells of a trip planned to the RHS and the Galanthus Gal and the dates for the tour are from the 8th February to the 15th February 2012.... so that gives you time to visit the English Gala and get back to the continent for the other Galas!



http://www.iris-ney.de/44/Galanthour/Reisetermin_2012.htm
Galanthour 2012

Die vierte Schneeglöckchenreise
von Iris Ney
zur Galanthus Gala und zur RHS Spring Show in London sowie durch viele private Vorfrühlingsgärten, Spezialgärtnereien und winterliche Parkanlagen


vom 8. Februar bis zum 15. Februar 2012


Anmeldung und Informationen über:
Tel: +49 (176) 96609769
mail@iris-ney.de



 14th and 15th February are the dates for the RHS London plant and design show ..... ???
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 09:05:25 PM
My goodness, these snowdrop trips seem popular.....
http://www.baur-gartenreisen.de/de/gartenreisen/reiseprogramme/schneegloeckchen-in-schottland.html
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 10, 2011, 09:12:31 PM
the exactly date isn`t given? Can I understand it right, Maggi?

My best guess is Saturday 11th February
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 10, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
Maggi, I hope to come with a friend, not with a bus ;D
Thank you for the date of Monachorum, I believe this is the entrance date.
Very good, my own galanthus are sleeping yet  this time.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on October 10, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
If I would want to go to the Gala, would I have to buy a ticket very early? And where do you do this? I would love to go, but I am not able to plan this very early.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on October 10, 2011, 10:00:41 PM
another Monksilver web site! :o
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 10, 2011, 10:42:31 PM
the exactly date isn`t given? Can I understand it right, Maggi?

My best guess is Saturday 11th February

That seems to be the date the rumour mill has, and I understand it is highly likely to be in Devon.  This means that the Cottage Garden Society event would be the 18th and may be in Kent.  However, all I can say is that no-one really knows until we are told! 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: freddyvl on October 10, 2011, 11:19:37 PM
Maggi, I hope to come with a friend, not with a bus ;D
Thank you for the date of Monachorum, I believe this is the entrance date.
Very good, my own galanthus are sleeping yet  this time.
Which friend ? And if you have many friends, you still need a bus   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2011, 10:02:32 AM
Maggi, I hope to come with a friend, not with a bus ;D
Thank you for the date of Monachorum, I believe this is the entrance date.
Very good, my own galanthus are sleeping yet  this time.
Which friend ? And if you have many friends, you still need a bus   ;D ;)

 Well said, Freddy !! ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
If I would want to go to the Gala, would I have to buy a ticket very early? And where do you do this? I would love to go, but I am not able to plan this very early.

Lina, I think that you need to book very early, when the date and ticket sales are announced  :-\
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on October 11, 2011, 11:43:31 AM
I did expect this already. Probably there are more people who want to go, then there are tickets. Another option would be to go with the Galanthustour that is organized by Garden Tours and where Hanneke van Dijk is the hostess. But here also you cannot get a booking very easy. People who did join earlier are the first ones that can book. And then the buss is full most of the time. But eventually I will get there.
Thanks Maggy for you reaction.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 13, 2011, 10:12:39 PM
I am really disappointed!!  The two main Galanthus events in our region is at the same weekend AGAIN!
Why? Galanthus weekend at Kalmthout, Belgian, is at the same time as Galanthus weekend at Nettetal!
This is not funny. Why donn't they communicate? I think Nettetal was first with their date. So Kalmthout should communicate about this.

Sorry, but I really am disappointed.

Lina.
I'm not surprised you are disappointed Lina... it does seem crazy to have the two events at the same time.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on October 15, 2011, 09:19:30 AM
Well here is an extract from the e mail from Cottage Garden Society

Members Day will be held on Saturday 18th February 2012. We will be visiting Christopher Lloyd’s garden at Great Dixter in East Sussex to see their collection of snowdrops (hellebores and crocus). We will, as usual, meet in the nearby village hall in the morning.

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on October 15, 2011, 06:17:49 PM
Thanks for this Chas. However I didn't know Great Dixter had snowdrops. I thought they went in for much more exotic things there.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on October 15, 2011, 08:16:01 PM
There is a growing interest in snowdrops amongst gardeners down in the south-east and the Kent Group of the Hardy Plant Society is holding its 11th annual Snowdrop & Hellebore Extravaganza at Goodnestone Park Garden, near Canterbury, on Sunday 19th February. Rod Leeds will be giving a talk. This event has always been good fun regardless of freezing winds and melting snow on occasions, and there is a nice warm lecture room and tea room!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on October 16, 2011, 09:14:07 PM
Keep an eye on this link, Hagen... all the details will appear there, I am sure: http://monksilver.gerard-payne.net/galanthus-gala/

Joe Sharman would like to tell people the above web site is not an official new web site.

This is web site for information http://www.monksilvernursery.co.uk/ (http://www.monksilvernursery.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on October 16, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
Good grief, the link I gave has all the Monksilver info.... what are these 'drop fiends playing at?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on October 16, 2011, 10:58:36 PM
a dinnae ken
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on October 17, 2011, 08:32:06 AM
The Belgian equivalent to the UK 'Galanthus Gala' is scheduled for Saturday 25th February.  This is a small event compared to the UK Gala, attracting about 50 people in 2011.  There is a link here http://www.provant.be/kalender/vrije_tijd/domeinen/arboretum_kalmthout/collecties/hamamelis/2012_02_25_sneeuwklokjesweeken.jsp?module=tcm:7-12959-4&page=3&referer=tcm:7-20462-64 but this is in Dutch.  I use the Google Chrome browser which will provide a translation into English.

I went to this event last February and had a good time there.  The location is an arboretum in Kalmthout which is in a very pleasant rural setting in North Belgium, close to the Dutch border.  It is easily accessible by public transport as the arboretum is a very short walk from Kalmthout train station and this is on the main line between Antwerp and Roosendaal.  Stopping trains call at Kalmthout at least once an hour.  You need to book and pay in advance for the event but I was allowed to book in advance and pay on the door because the form of payment (by bank transfer) requested by the arboretum is ridiculously expensive from a UK bank.

In the morning there were three lectures, two in Dutch and, fortunately for me, one in English.  These were mounted very smoothly and efficiently with good audio-visuals.  Although I speak no Dutch I was able to follow the broad thrust of the Dutch talks and I also met quite a lot of Dutch people who recognised me from the UK Galanthus Gala which they had attended and were kind enough to speak to me in English during the social parts of the event.  Hanneke van Dijk was particularly kind, whispered English help with the Dutch lectures and later took time off from selling her book to walk me over to the excellent snowdrop display which was in another building that I had not found.

After the lectures there was lunch then the sale started at 2pm (much more civilised than the UK scrabble).  There were around six stands selling snowdrops, including Roger Harvey from the UK.  If you were looking for snowdrops you cannot find in the UK there wasn't too much on offer, mostly ones that had been found and cultivated by Valentin Wijnen - he had a sales table.  The arboretum itself had some of the readily-available snowdrops, lots of snowflakes and a large collection of hamamelis cultivars.           
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on October 19, 2011, 06:54:35 PM
our dates are up...

http://www.beningtonlordship.co.uk/events/snowdrops.shtml

if anyone wants to visit outside of the official opening please get in touch nearer the time, more than happy to arrange a quieter visit.

I am planning another Snowdrops & Cake, with added soup ;) not settled on a date yet to avoid clashing with group bookings, I'm hoping for Sunday 19th but probably can't fix it till end of Nov.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on November 02, 2011, 11:17:21 PM
I have it from a good source that the Gala in 2012 will be in Devon/Cornwall actual venue not yet determined. Is it to early to say "Welcome to the end of the known world" ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on November 09, 2011, 09:43:45 AM
I have it from a good source that the Gala in 2012 will be in Devon/Cornwall actual venue not yet determined. Is it to early to say "Welcome to the end of the known world" ;D

see here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8074.0

I'm tempted to say something about Galanthus Grockles..... but I won't  :-X
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on November 10, 2011, 08:23:23 AM
Does anyone know if there usually a separate Galanthus "do" in Holland?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on November 10, 2011, 09:05:07 AM
Steve, are you planning a trip to Holland?
There will be a "Sneeuwklokjesfeest" (Snowdropparty) in februari at Dineke Logtenberg's farm, De Boschhoeve, at Wolfheze. I have not seen a date, but you can keep an eye at her web-site. www.boschhoeve.nl
Normally here are several growers and also people who sell galanthofilia. And always two or three different talks.
In my own neighborhood (this is the north part of Holland, close to the german border) we have 2 Snowdropsundays. Februari 26 and march 4. If you are interested I can give you more details of this event.
Ofcourse there is also the event that is organiser by Gerard Oud. Sneeuwklokjes gala. Februari 18 and 19.
So you can choose, or visit all.  :P
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on November 10, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
Wow, Lina, what a lot of choice! Better get my diary out.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on November 10, 2011, 05:02:19 PM
There is one address you should visit when you are in Holland. Annie Fallinger has the National Collection of Snowdrops in the Netherlands. She lives In Dordrecht, close to Rotterdam. Her collection is over 500 cultivars. In februari she has open days, but she is very flexible when people want to visit her garden on a different day. This all together makes a trip to Holland worthwhile.  :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on November 28, 2011, 12:10:25 AM
Republic of Ireland Galanthus and Hellebore day

Snowdrops and other Spring Treasures
Saturday, February 4th, 2012


Venue:
Sandbrook House http://www.sandbrookhouse.com/index.htm  (http://www.sandbrookhouse.com/index.htm) (1 mile from Altamont Gardens, Co Carlow) 

Programme :
9.30am: Registration. Tea, coffee, biscuits.

10.00am - 11.00am: “From Old to Gold”  Alan Street (Avon Bulbs)

11.05am - 12.05pm: “Heavenly Hellebores”  Richard Bramley (Farmyard Nurseries, Wales)

12.15pm - 1.15pm: Lunch at Sandbrook

1.20pm - 2.20pm: “Special Snowdrops and How to Keep Them”  Jim Almond, keen snowdrop enthusiast

2.30pm - 5.00pm: Visit to Altamont

Snowdrops, Spring bulbs, hellebores, etc for sale (Avon Bulbs, Farmyard Nurseries)

Tour of the Snowdrop collection with Paul Cutler, head gardener at Altamont. 

Early booking advisable. No refunds. Ticketed event, limited number.

Cost:
€50 (before December 20th)
€60 (before January 20th)

Cost includes lectures, lunch, admission to bulb sale, tour of snowdrop collection.

Contact: 
Hester Forde (Coosheen Garden) hesterfordeATgmail.com
Robert Miller (Altamont Plant Sales) 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on November 28, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
Altamont does not seem to be particularly convenient for an airport if you wanted to travel from overseas.  Dublin Airport must be a few hours away, although I once caught a coach from Dublin Airport to Waterford that must have passed nearby.  Any thoughts?   
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on November 28, 2011, 11:11:02 AM
Alan the AA say it's 53 miles from Dublin airport and 68 miles via the motorway. Timing for both is roughly the same but you can put the foot down on the motorway
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 28, 2011, 04:03:13 PM
Any member of the HPS who expressed an interest in a snowdrop group should have received details of:

NOTICE OF THE FIRST HPS GALANTHUS GROUP AGM and STUDY DAY
Our inaugural Annual General Meeting will be held from 9.30am on Sunday 19th February 2012 in the Village Hall at Chaddesley Corbett near Kidderminster, Worcestershire. The AGM will be followed by a lecture given by Jim Almond (National Collection holder of Oncocyclus Irises).  His talk entitled ‘Special Snowdrops and How to Keep Them’, supported by his excellent photography, is followed by a visit to the nearby garden of HPS member Olive Mason who has an extensive snowdrop collection and an excellent winter garden.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on November 28, 2011, 04:11:36 PM
I've seen Jim's Iris collection, wow
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ashley on November 28, 2011, 05:30:04 PM
Altamont does not seem to be particularly convenient for an airport if you wanted to travel from overseas.  Dublin Airport must be a few hours away, although I once caught a coach from Dublin Airport to Waterford that must have passed nearby.  Any thoughts?   

I doubt that Altamont is well served by public transport Alan, so probably the most efficient way would be to hire a small car from the airport.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 28, 2011, 05:36:18 PM
Brian, who is the current contact for membership of the HPS and the snowdrop group? I really must get around to renewing my membership, especially as the AGM won't be too far from me.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 28, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
Martin the details are here:

http://www.hardy-plant.org.uk/
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on November 28, 2011, 08:29:07 PM
Martin the details are here:

http://www.hardy-plant.org.uk/

 Brian, I was searching the site earlier and could find no mention of the Galanthus group at all  :-\ ???
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 28, 2011, 10:57:31 PM
Maggi I was pointing Martin to membership matters.  The information on the Snowdrop Group will appear in the next HPS National Newsletter.  Membership is limited to HPS national members (as with the CGS Group).
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2011, 11:20:16 AM
Thanks, Brian.

My point is that it must be hard to attract members to join when there is no mention of the Galanthus Group or how one might join that  in the general membership area of the site.  Even if only open to HPS members, it all seems rather opaque.  :-X
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 29, 2011, 12:52:42 PM
Hopefully it will become more easy once the group is up and running Maggi.  The HPS members did have the opportunity to express an interest in it's formation earlier this year.  I just hope that they co-ordinate with the Cottage Garden Group so that they have meetings at opposite sides of the country so that those who can't get to one can go to the other 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 29, 2011, 11:01:46 PM
Thanks, Brian.

My point is that it must be hard to attract members to join when there is no mention of the Galanthus Group or how one might join that  in the general membership area of the site.  Even if only open to HPS members, it all seems rather opaque.  :-X

This has now been rectified Maggi, and it now appears as the featured specialist group on the main page.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on November 30, 2011, 11:31:25 AM
Thanks, Brian.

My point is that it must be hard to attract members to join when there is no mention of the Galanthus Group or how one might join that  in the general membership area of the site.  Even if only open to HPS members, it all seems rather opaque.  :-X

This has now been rectified Maggi, and it now appears as the featured specialist group on the main page.

 Excellent..... that must help draw in folks!

I take the liberty of repeating the info here.... so anyone thinking of joining the Hardy Plant Society knows they have a definite contact re  the Snowdrop Group....
"In addition to a number of Local Groups, the HPS has a number of Specialist Groups.
This month, we feature our newest specialist group, the
HPS Galanthus Group

The first AGM of this group will take place on Sunday 19th February 2012 in Chaddersley Corbett, Worcestershire. The meeting will be followed by a talk on “Special Snowdrops and How to Keep Them” by Jim Almond plus a visit to a nearby garden with an extensive collection of snowdrop cultivars.

If you are a keen snowdrop grower, this is the group for you. See the Specialist Group pages or email galanthus@hardy-plant.org.uk for more information. "
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 31, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
A note from Glenchantry about where you can buy their "short supply" 'drops in the coming year......

" Because of distance and health issues we regret we will not be
attending the English Galanthus Gala in 2012. The many varieties of
snowdrops that we have in numbers too small for this list that we
normally offer at the Gala will be available at:

1. Myddleton House Gardens in Enfield EN2 9HG on 4th February
[10.30am-1pm]
[Details from Monksilver Nursery, Oakington Road, Cottenham
CB24 8TW]

2. The Cottage Garden Group Snowdrop Day at Northiam and Great
Dixter on 18th February.
[Details from Marion Swaffield, 46 Willesley Gardens, Ashby de la
Zouch, Leics LE65 2QF]

We regret that these cannot be pre ordered and will only be available
at these events. Please note that because of lack of space we will be
unable to take orders from the January 2012 list to these events."

 Wol and Sue

If anyone would like the Glen Chantry snowdrop list, for bulbs to order in the green, please drop me an email and I'll be happy to pass it on.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Jane on January 01, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
Hello All,
Happy New Year! I have not had time to post for a while because we have been run off our feet. I have had the odd moment to read the posts in all areas of the forum and find it all very inspiring. For the first time this year I will be opening my garden for snowdrops. I started collecting in 2004 and now have a nice selection of varieties. My husband and I have also started trying to turn  2 areas of woodlands into a snowdrop walk. Last year I planted over 40,000 Galanthus nivalis. I am hoping that visitors will enjoy seeing us at the start of our Snowdrop history. We are opening on Sunday 19th February 11am to 4pm, although visitors are welcome by appointment throughout February. We can be found at Abbeywood Gardens, Chester road, Delamere, Northwich, Cheshire, CW8 2HS, I'll put our website address in case you want a quick peek www.abbeywoodgardenscheshire.co.uk. Kind regards Jane and Dave.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 05, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
Another event for 'drop fiends....
http://www.harveysgardenplants.co.uk/Talks.asp#galanthus2012 .... with a talk by Valentin Wijnen  
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 06, 2012, 12:52:15 PM
This just in from the Chelsea Physic Garden......

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Snowdrop Days Saturday  4 to Monday 13 February 2012 at Chelsea Physic Garden

In London for RHS February show?

SPECIAL RHS MEMBERS OFFER: 2 for the price of 1 on Monday 13th February on production of RHS membership card

 

Snowdrop Extravaganza at London’s oldest botanic garden.  Galanthomania with snowdrop theatre (featuring rare snowdrop cultivars from Joe Sharman’s Monksilver Nursery) , trails, guided tours, talks and workshops to celebrate the coming of spring. Over 40 different types from Monksilver will be on sale, while the Physic Garden shop and renowned Tangerine Café will have snowdrop themed goods and foods to satisfy the tastes all galanthophiles, from the beginner to the expert.

 
Leading snowdrop expert Joe Sharman will give a talk and a guided tour of winter flowering plants at Chelsea Physic Garden  on Sunday 5 February. FREE, Booking advised for talk , 2pm.
 

Other events include:
 

Wed 8, 10am -12.30pm     Compost Clinic led by Michael Holland. A workshop which ‘lifts the lid’ on the creation of earth .. the ultimate black gold (£25)

Wed 8, 10am – 4pm          Botanical Illustration One Day Course on snowdrops with Gillian Barlow (£105)

Thurs 9, 10am – 4pm        Chelsea Physic Garden scooped 5 of the top prizes at the 2011 London Honey Show last August, including Best All Round Honey.

Chelsea Physic Garden beekeeper Peter James leads a one day Introduction to Bee-keeping course at the Garden (£95). A practical insight into the life of a bee-keeper and what’s needed to get started

Sat 11, 2pm         Honey Tasting - Chelsea Physic Garden beekeeper Peter James leads the audience through the tastes, aromas and textures of one of nature’s most delicious foods  (£20)

 

For further details please visit:  www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk  or to book events please call 020 7349 6471.

 
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Bee on snowdrop
Photo: Mark Pateman

 For more information about the Garden visit our website www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk


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Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 06, 2012, 03:49:31 PM
Folks, please note update to above post... more info included!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 12, 2012, 06:53:18 AM
Quote
1. Myddleton House Gardens in Enfield EN2 9HG on 4th February
[10.30am-1pm]
[Details from Monksilver Nursery, Oakington Road, Cottenham
CB24 8TW]

not far from me and could probably go, is this a ticket only thing?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 12, 2012, 07:51:26 AM
The Myddleton House sale is supposedly for buyers and sellers who cannot make it to the Galanthus Gala in Devon.  So I don't think it can be ticket-only (unless you get a free ticket if you apply too late for the Gala and don't get a place).  It has certainly not been advertised as ticket-only so I guess people will turn-up anyway.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 12, 2012, 08:22:26 AM
ok thanks, not going to gala & looked on the M House website and couldn't see any info about it.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 12, 2012, 10:33:13 AM
I was surprised there was no information on the Myddleton House website too Richard, but as I understand it you just turn up!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 12, 2012, 06:13:45 PM
unless I hear otherwise that's what I will do then  ;D

I thought that would probably be the case with it being a sale but no info on their site does seem odd.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 12, 2012, 06:18:51 PM
I presume that is because the sale is essentially a "private function" put on Joe Sharman for which Myddleton House happens to be the venue.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Gerard Oud on January 12, 2012, 06:53:28 PM
I heard a good tip from someone to put money on a English top Jockey Joe Sharman and his horse Monksilver ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on January 12, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
I heard a good tip from someone to put money on a English top Jockey Joe Sharman and his horse Monksilver ;D

Would that make him Trotter's Merlin?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 15, 2012, 08:48:44 PM
Quote
1. Myddleton House Gardens in Enfield EN2 9HG on 4th February
[10.30am-1pm]
[Details from Monksilver Nursery, Oakington Road, Cottenham
CB24 8TW]

not far from me and could probably go, is this a ticket only thing?
A kind friend has helpfully provided this information about the Snowdrop Event at Myddleton House on February 4th :
The  official time is 10.30 am to 1pm.
The entry to the plant sale is £3.50p per person which will
also give free access to the garden.
Proceeds will be allocated to help  fund the vitally important restoration of the historic rock garden at E.A.Bowles’ home and the site of his passionate interest in all things horticultural.

Previous booking is not needed as entry to the plant sale will be collected  by staff at the garden. Therefore no prior booking for tickets is required.

Nurseries attending are Monksilver [Joe Sharman], Michael and Anne
Broadhurst,  Woodchippings [Richard and Val],  Ann Borrill and Glen
Chantry [ Sue and Wol Staines]
A very good selection of unusual snowdrops  should be available.

 The Myddleton House web site has now been updated
recently to include details of this event and the location and
directions to the garden:

http://www.leevalleypark.org.uk/en/Events/index.aspx?LocationID=26     main events page

http://www.leevalleypark.org.uk/en/Events/index.aspx?EventID=672   snowdrop event info 4/02/12




Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on January 15, 2012, 08:59:58 PM
Thanks Maggi (and Maggi's friend)

Good to know the details as a few of us might be turning up.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 15, 2012, 09:05:35 PM
ditto, thanks for clearing that up, was a little concerned about turning up uninvited  ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 16, 2012, 10:49:52 AM
And ditto from me.  The gardens of Myddleton House are lovely in spring time (although late February would probably be a better time than early February).
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 16, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
And ditto from me.  The gardens of Myddleton House are lovely in spring time (although late February would probably be a better time than early February).

Do you think that applies this year, too, Alan, when so many folks are finding their plants are     galloping ahead of schedule?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 16, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
Time will tell, Maggi.  I'm on about the same lattitude as Myddleton House but around 40 miles to the North.  Although I can find examples of plants that are way ahead of schedule, the majority in this area and in my garden seem to be close to their normal schedule.  The peak display of snowdrops is certainly some weeks off.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 17, 2012, 09:55:21 AM
same here, but I am worried about the groups that have booked for the end of Feb, if we have another mild spell I suspect many of the specials will be over.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on January 19, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
Some details of the 'Snowdrop & Hellebore Day' being held by the Hardy Plant Society in Kent at Goodnestone Park on Sunday 19th February.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 20, 2012, 05:49:30 PM
NGS Snowdrops Garden Openings 2012

http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx

Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 20, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
NGS Snowdrops Garden Openings 2012

http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx

Paddy

 What a great list.... and so many forumists/ SRGC members showing their lovely gardens  8) 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 20, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
You should also look under the Latest News section on the NGS home page http://www.ngs.org.uk/ .  This gives more detailed information on snowdrop venues in Kent and Essex.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 20, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
NGS Snowdrops Garden Openings 2012

http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx

Paddy

 What a great list.... and so many forumists/ SRGC members showing their lovely gardens  8) 8)

Maggi, I failed to recognise the gardens as belonging to forum/SRGC members. I did spot Jo's garden in Devon.

Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 20, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Paddy are you going to Hester's event?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 20, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
No, Mark, not going. I'm afraid these Yorkshire people on this forum have had an effect on me. I now seriously begrudge parting with my money.

I was talking to Bob and know that he and Margaret are travelling - you too? I would have liked to meet them both as I haven't met them in a while.

Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 20, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
Are Bob and Margaret going to the Gala?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 21, 2012, 10:27:25 AM
NGS Snowdrops Garden Openings 2012

http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx

Paddy
I think I could manage three Paddy:
Robins Wood
Cherubeer
Spring Platt

Although I could be wildly wrong 8)

 What a great list.... and so many forumists/ SRGC members showing their lovely gardens  8) 8)

Maggi, I failed to recognise the gardens as belonging to forum/SRGC members. I did spot Jo's garden in Devon.

Paddy

I think I could manage three Paddy:
Robins Wood
Cherubeer
Spring Platt

Although I could be wildly wrong 8)



edit by maggi to sort out a quote box muddle  ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 21, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
Brian,

Who owns which garden?

Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 21, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Robins Wood  Carole Smith
Cherubeer  Jo Hynes
Spring Platt Carolyn Millen

I tink ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 21, 2012, 02:06:53 PM
Thanks, Brian. I must go back and look at them again. Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 21, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
im not going either because i ll be in england the following week for a week
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 21, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
Colesbourne features in the Daily Telegraph today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardenstovisit/9025624/The-whites-of-spring-snowdrops-at-Colesbourne-Park.html
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
Today I had my first snowdrop event. Not a lunch but tea/coffee and home made cake after a look at the snowdrops in the front and back garden. I invited members from the local RSPB group that I belong to. It went down very well despite chilly wind. Most snowdrops were open.

I think I will start doing one in mid/late January every year
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 22, 2012, 05:59:08 PM
Is anybody going to this event http://www.blackcottnursery.co.uk/snowdrop_day.html.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 22, 2012, 06:08:22 PM
Yes  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 22, 2012, 07:50:12 PM
That's two of us Brian
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 22, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
I know at least three lurkers who will also be there ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: JohnMi on January 23, 2012, 09:40:18 AM
For anyone interested; Spring Platt will be open under the NGS on Sat and Sun 4th and 5th Feb and Fri 19th
from 12 pm until 4pm. At present about 120 different ones are blooming, we are always early as they are plunged
in perforated pots in raised beds. The collection is now about 350 different ones.
The address is Spring Platt, Boyton Court Road, Sutton Valence, Maidstone, Kent ME173BY.
Phone 01622 843383.
John & Carolyn Millen
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 23, 2012, 10:03:44 AM
For anyone interested; Spring Platt will be open under the NGS on Sat and Sun 4th and 5th Feb and Fri 19th
from 12 pm until 4pm. At present about 120 different ones are blooming, we are always early as they are plunged
in perforated pots in raised beds. The collection is now about 350 different ones.
The address is Spring Platt, Boyton Court Road, Sutton Valence, Maidstone, Kent ME173BY.
Phone 01622 843383.
John & Carolyn Millen

being determined to visit more this year weather permitting I'll probably try and pop down after a quick trip to Myddleton house on the Sat 4th.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2012, 11:22:37 AM
For anyone interested; Spring Platt will be open under the NGS on Sat and Sun 4th and 5th Feb and Fri 19th
from 12 pm until 4pm. At present about 120 different ones are blooming, we are always early as they are plunged
in perforated pots in raised beds. The collection is now about 350 different ones.
The address is Spring Platt, Boyton Court Road, Sutton Valence, Maidstone, Kent ME173BY.
Phone 01622 843383.
John & Carolyn Millen

 Hello John.... hope the weather is good for your open days. Have fun!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: MargaretB on January 23, 2012, 11:50:14 AM
Quote
Is anybody going to this event http://www.blackcottnursery.co.uk/snowdrop_day.html.

First posting, so please be kind if it goes wrong!

I shall be going.  It looks like those going to the lectures will have the opportunity for first dibs at the snowdrops being sold! :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2012, 12:08:15 PM
Hello Margaret, Happy First Post!! :)

 I think this sounds like a good day out... two talks... sales.... soup... what's not to enjoy  ::)

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 23, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
Welcome Margaret, don't forget to bring my seeds on Saturday ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on January 23, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
Welcome to the friendliest plant discussion forum on the net Margaret.   8)

Are you going to be a mainly 'Galanthus only poster' like me - or the whole forum for the whole year?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: MargaretB on January 24, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
Welcome to the friendliest plant discussion forum on the net Margaret.   8)

Are you going to be a mainly 'Galanthus only poster' like me - or the whole forum for the whole year?

Thanks for the messages of welcome. 

Hellebores are my main vice, but galanthus come a strong second.  Mustn't forget primula auricula, cyclamen etc etc too! I expect to learn a lot from the Forum.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 24, 2012, 11:44:24 AM
Welcome to the friendliest plant discussion forum on the net Margaret.   8)

Are you going to be a mainly 'Galanthus only poster' like me - or the whole forum for the whole year?

Thanks for the messages of welcome. 

Hellebores are my main vice, but galanthus come a strong second.  Mustn't forget primula auricula, cyclamen etc etc too! I expect to learn a lot from the Forum.

I have to say, Margaret, that you have just joined a collection of like minded people, we are all as bad as each other ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 24, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Just opened my post and found that Colesbourne features in the RHS magazine 'The Garden' this month.  Everyone will be beating a path to your door John ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 24, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
Reading further there is a Roy Lancaster visit to Foxgrove Plants too ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 24, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
Just opened my post and found that Colesbourne features in the RHS magazine 'The Garden' this month.  Everyone will be beating a path to your door John ;D

Reading further there is a Roy Lancaster visit to Foxgrove Plants too ;D ;D
..and an article by Tim Ingram.... and contributions from Andy Houghton.... etc etc etc..... half the Forumists in this issue! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 24, 2012, 12:14:14 PM
Welcome to the friendliest plant discussion forum on the net Margaret.   8)

Are you going to be a mainly 'Galanthus only poster' like me - or the whole forum for the whole year?

Thanks for the messages of welcome. 

Hellebores are my main vice, but galanthus come a strong second.  Mustn't forget primula auricula, cyclamen etc etc too! I expect to learn a lot from the Forum.

I have to say, Margaret, that you have just joined a collection of like minded people, we are all as bad as each other ;D

 Margaret, Brian is correct...basically  we are a self-help group for hopeless plant addicts  :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on January 24, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
hopeless is about right, I was going to be very strict this year and limit the number of hellebore seedlings I potted, spent the morning doing what I always do and pot them all up, haven't got room for them  ::)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: evolutionplantsman on January 24, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
Could someone let me know what the deal is at the Myddleton House snowdrop sale on 4th Feb? I assume that anyone can show up? What time do the doors open for the sale? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 24, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Could someone let me know what the deal is at the Myddleton House snowdrop sale on 4th Feb? I assume that anyone can show up? What time do the doors open for the sale? Thanks in advance.
No problem, Tom... go back a couple of pages to page 5 of this thread... or follow this link:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7858.msg226160#msg226160      ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: evolutionplantsman on January 24, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
Great - thanks!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 24, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Is anyone going to Myddleton House and the Gala? If yes can you do me a favour?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on January 24, 2012, 10:13:41 PM
Yes I am if I get gala tickets Mark
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on January 25, 2012, 09:42:16 AM
I am off to Myddleton and the Gala,if tickets are forthcoming .
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on January 25, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
Don't mention Gala tickets to me.  The fact that the Gala is 2 weeks 3 days away and I still don't know for certain that I can go is becoming a bit of a sore point.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on January 25, 2012, 10:16:46 AM
Well the money went out of my account for the gala, but still no ticket........ :-\
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 25, 2012, 11:19:47 AM
Chas I'll contact you later
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 28, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
Joe has said today that everyone who has asked for tickets will be getting them so go ahead with any arrangements, he is going to try and get them out at the beginning of this week - but if you have booked and don't receive them, he will have a list there so will know they have not arrived.  Also if anyone else wishes to go to the Gala there are still some places available.

Lovely to see so many forumists and lurkers at the talk at Blacksmiths nursery, thanks to Ben and Sarah for hosting it.  A really sociable occasion and no I could not resist buying some more ::) ::)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on January 28, 2012, 05:46:23 PM
Emma, my money is gone too.
And I will be in GB much earlier, than the tickets arrive G. :D
What should I do? Nothing - I`m looking forward!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 28, 2012, 07:42:01 PM
he will have a list there so will know they have not arrived.  Also if anyone else wishes to go to the Gala there are still some places available.

I'm ticking off names
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 28, 2012, 08:00:42 PM
Joe has said today that everyone who has asked for tickets will be getting them so go ahead with any arrangements, he is going to try and get them out at the beginning of this week - but if you have booked and don't receive them, he will have a list there so will know they have not arrived.  Also if anyone else wishes to go to the Gala there are still some places available.

Lovely to see so many forumists and lurkers at the talk at Blacksmiths nursery, thanks to Ben and Sarah for hosting it.  A really sociable occasion and no I could not resist buying some more ::) ::)
Brian i am no longer a snowdrop meet virgin  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on January 28, 2012, 08:19:25 PM
Brian i am no longer a snowdrop meet virgin  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know things happen in the fracas but really!  ::)

johnw
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 28, 2012, 08:47:45 PM
 
Brian i am no longer a snowdrop meet virgin  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know things happen in the fracas but really!  ::)

johnw
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 28, 2012, 11:16:15 PM
Brian i am no longer a snowdrop meet virgin  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know things happen in the fracas but really!  ::)

johnw
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

...and it was painless too
 :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on January 29, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
...and it was painless too :D ;D :D

Fine by me as long as you didn't scare Hobson's horses.

johnw
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 29, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
I have to say it was also a pleasure to meet Sharon(if your lurking you no who i am talking about)the day before sorry i didn't talk to you on the day,and also Cliff Curtis the day before WOW That man snowdrop knowledge is off the scale,I love the fact he knows all the background information about every snowdrop he points to ...Incredible.It was  fantastic to watch father and daughter in action as well amongst the snowdrops.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on January 29, 2012, 12:02:26 PM
I can well believe you've been enjoying the last few days, Davey.  You've been super busy!

I know Ian's been having a great time with Sharron, her folks,  Carol,  Barbara and Bob and Ann who have given him such super hospitality and and all the others he's been being looked after by  during his trip over the last few days.
 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 31, 2012, 07:02:01 PM
Well I spent most of the morning talking  ::) (when I wasn't listening to the lectures) so didn't take any photos.  We were treated by Rod Leeds to the sight of three lovely pots of snowdrops Castle Green Dragon, Llo'n'Green (presumably a play on Lohengrin) and Castle 02/20.  Thanks to Colin - a lurker (I think) for these photos.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on January 31, 2012, 07:55:13 PM
wow Green Dragon and wow I didnt realise Lo looked so good
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: loes on January 31, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
Green Dragon is stunning! goes on my wishlist ,next to Green Tear.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on January 31, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
Brian,
thank you for these eyecatchers.
no more comments
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 31, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
Green Dragon is stunning! goes on my wishlist ,next to Green Tear.

Castle Green Dragon is a beauty, and fantastic potential for breeding purposes. I keep wanting to reach into the photograph and see if the pollen is running!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on January 31, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
Brian - Lovely ones.  Guess you're not singing Purse'sFull after that booth.  But bet Gotterdamerung when you got home.

johnw
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 31, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
Just for show John, Rod's lecture was "Galanthus - some favourites old and new"  and they were at the front of the room for us all to admire - no sales.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2012, 12:11:58 AM
Green Dragon is stunning! goes on my wishlist ,next to Green Tear.

Castle Green Dragon is a beauty, and fantastic potential for breeding purposes. I keep wanting to reach into the photograph and see if the pollen is running!

 This rather fetching snowdrop is from Scotland.  :)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 01, 2012, 11:11:59 AM
Just as I thought I was doing well with 'Cowhouse Green', which I bought on a visit to Rod and Jane's garden, than along comes 'Castle Green Dragon' - what an Aladdin's Cave these snowdrops are!!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 01, 2012, 04:50:17 PM
What about Margaret Biddulph and Moya's Green, if virescents oil your cogs?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 03, 2012, 11:51:06 AM
Any one else going to be at Myddleton House tomorrow ?   I am going , unless there's a lot of snow to stop me.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 03, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
I shall look for the hat Emma  :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on February 03, 2012, 12:43:21 PM
Be carefull, Brian!
John will probably wear one too. ;D

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on February 03, 2012, 01:25:08 PM
I'll be at Myddleton for 10:30 as long as I can get everything ready for tomorrow by this evening.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 03, 2012, 02:48:22 PM
Be carefull, Brian!
John will probably wear one too. ;D

Lina.

Fortunately Lina I have seen Emma before so I don't think I will rush up to John by accident ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 03, 2012, 03:56:15 PM
See you all there then,except I do not finish work until 6am ,so please excuse me if I am not at my best,I think I may drive straight down and have 40 winks when there
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 03, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
See you all there then,except I do not finish work until 6am ,so please excuse me if I am not at my best,I think I may drive straight down and have 40 winks when there

That's dedication for you, or madness !    v ::)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 04, 2012, 06:44:17 AM
Just arrived home and its -7 here see you all later....................and Emma definiately madness
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 04, 2012, 07:12:49 AM
Looking forward to seeing everyone that makes it later. 

So annoying that this cold snap has happened right now as the next 3 days are my most snowdrop intensive of the season!   >:(
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on February 04, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
nice to see everyone, shame it was so cold but there were some lovely plants & I really could have spent a small fortune, came away with two & really pleased to have got Lapwing.

sorry I missed the group photo due to phone call.

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 04, 2012, 05:04:59 PM
Had a wonderful day  ;D nice to catch up with friends and not have the scrum of the Gala. Got back home just as the first flakes of snow began to fall , its now settling on the ground   :-\
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 04, 2012, 05:23:52 PM
what goodies did you get? Was it the Myddleton event today?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 04, 2012, 05:54:19 PM
Yes Mark it was,unfortunately no Greenish though,bought a few goodies off my wanted list so rather pleased,no doubt a group picture will appear in good time,and I echo Emma's comment

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Had a wonderful day  nice to catch up with friends and not have the scrum of the Gala
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on February 04, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
I picked up Lapwing & Melanie Broughton, both very nice plants.

wasn't much within the budget I had set myself, really wanted Kildare & Cowhouse Green but as usual I look at the prices and think it's too much for one bulb.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 04, 2012, 06:47:08 PM
I was delighted to get 'Miss Willmott' - three scapes on the bulb I got, sometimes has four per bulb.  Many thanks to Sue and Wol.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: RichardW on February 04, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
Brian, sorry I didn't recognize you when I arrived  :-[

must have been freezing standing there for hours, hope you had a good day.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 04, 2012, 07:28:21 PM
I was delighted to get 'Miss Willmott' - three scapes on the bulb I got, sometimes has four per bulb.
wow!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 04, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Brian
I noticed you had a cunning plan to get round the goodies before the let us peasants in. ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 04, 2012, 09:34:19 PM
And I also missed one on my list and Wol and Sue had it
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 05, 2012, 01:26:11 PM
I got myself a 'clovis'  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 05, 2012, 02:00:12 PM
I noticed you had a cunning plan to get round the goodies before the let us peasants in. ;)

If cunning involves setting off four and a half hours earlier and standing in -4 for four hours, it was indeed that  :D but my snowdrops were either pre-ordered anyway or gifts.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 05, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
Didn't Wol and Sue's list have one Miss Willmott on it?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 05, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Does Miss Willmott look special or is it simply know for the number of scapes? Has anyone seen Glechantress?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: David King on February 05, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Does Miss Willmott look special or is it simply know for the number of scapes? Has anyone seen Glechantress?

It's a really nice little snowdrop an looked lovely when it arrived home last night.  Will take some close up pictures if I have time.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 06, 2012, 01:15:37 AM
I was delighted to get 'Miss Willmott' - three scapes on the bulb I got, sometimes has four per bulb.  Many thanks to Sue and Wol.

By the time Sue told me about 'Miss Willmott' it had just sold out - looking forward to seeing photos of it.

I had a great day and would love to do it all over again in a more controlled manner and with more money!  I am very happy with the plants I bought and managed to cross many off my wish list.....but added twice as many back on it  :)  It was pretty cold but I was running a high 'fever' - have never seen so many beautiful snowdrops in one small space - it was torture  ???  I must have looked like a maniac running around !

It was lovely to see the members from the forum again - thanks for the lift Arthur  ;)

I was over the moon to pick up Cider with Rosie, Gloria, Homersfield and Gemini + quite a few others  ::)

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 06, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
must have looked like a maniac running around !

I'm just too much of a gentleman Jennie, I'm glad you entered into the swing of things with such gusto ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: art600 on February 06, 2012, 11:02:27 AM
I picked up many from my wish list and one that is absolutely delightful and has not been mentioned on the Forum before.

Galanthus 'Ruth Maclaren' from Wol & Sue - a very vigorous plant at an incredibly reasonable price.  I have a ready made clump all in one pot.  Will post a pic later.

The day was great - meeting fellow fans and looking at the work that is being done to rstore the garden - a very nice volunteer lady gave us an escorted guide to the snowdrop area.  Looking forward to seeing the snowdrops in full flower and standing proud when I return to Myddleton House on the 18th.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 06, 2012, 11:10:24 AM
Did nobody go to the Republic of Ireland Galanthus and Hellebore day last Saturday?  I was hoping we would get a report on how it went.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ashley on February 06, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
I couldn't.  Nor did Paddy go as far as I know.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 06, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
I got myself a 'clovis'  ;D

Lucky you Emma - I would love to get that one day.  Was it there for sale or had you ordered it?
Jennie
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 06, 2012, 04:20:04 PM
it was on the Monksilver stand, just the one. So i snapped it up, and gave it a hug  ;D told it it was coming to live with me now  8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 06, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
Emma, with a hat like yours I'm surprised the 'drops don't throw themselves off the tables into your arms, with little squeaks of joy.  8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 06, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
The Irish event was attended by 125 people. I dont know if they were all Irish or if any crossed over from England. I heard Avon was in demand and lots of goodies were bought.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 06, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Did nobody go to the Republic of Ireland Galanthus and Hellebore day last Saturday?  I was hoping we would get a report on how it went.

Alan, No I didn't attend and haven't heard any comment about it to date. Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 07, 2012, 09:07:31 AM
Emma, with a hat like yours I'm surprised the 'drops don't throw themselves off the tables into your arms, with little squeaks of joy.  8)

I am the one who squeaks with joy when i find a drop ive been after for ages  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 07, 2012, 09:48:05 AM
Here is the happy Emma proudly showing her mum two new plants that are going to live in Dorset.   :)

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 07, 2012, 10:02:35 AM

Nice pic. :)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 07, 2012, 11:12:30 AM
 ;D that's a nice picture,  Mum then tried to touch the poor frozen 'Clovis' and got glared at by me lol
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 07, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Here is the happy Emma proudly showing her mum two new plants that are going to live in Dorset.   :)


Is it me or do the snowdrops look like there bowing to royalty(if they could talk they would be saying 'Mam')
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 07, 2012, 12:05:47 PM
;D that's a nice picture,  Mum then tried to touch the poor frozen 'Clovis' and got glared at by me lol

Lovely natural photo Emma.  May I be really nosey and ask what your second plant was - as you look so happy  ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Sean Fox on February 07, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
Here is the happy Emma proudly showing her mum two new plants that are going to live in Dorset.   :)



Well the cat's certainly got the cream with that beaming smile, nice photo.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 07, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
;D that's a nice picture,  Mum then tried to touch the poor frozen 'Clovis' and got glared at by me lol

Lovely natural photo Emma.  May I be really nosey and ask what your second plant was - as you look so happy  ;)

The second pot is 'Bunch' , i later went back for 'Fatty Puff', by that time i had a bag (i think)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 07, 2012, 05:41:30 PM
;D that's a nice picture,  Mum then tried to touch the poor frozen 'Clovis' and got glared at by me lol

Lovely natural photo Emma.  May I be really nosey and ask what your second plant was - as you look so happy  ;)

The second pot is 'Bunch' , i later went back for 'Fatty Puff', by that time i had a bag (i think)

Ooh Nice - I never saw that either but I did get a Fatty Puff that looks really sad now that it has thawed out.  I could not actually focus on writing that day as I need laser correction on my right eye - but I think it was probably just as well 'cos if I could have seen the names I would have wanted even more  ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 07, 2012, 06:52:00 PM
Jennie

I got my frozen snowdrop pots home from Myddleton House, stood them in my alpine house at 4C, propped up all the spathes and leaves with labels, let them defrost, then carefully watered. Even so I was sure I would lose two including Chandlers Greentip that I paid an arm and a leg for. Now, 48 hours on, the leaves look normal and springy and I've been able to dispense with the labels, and it looks as if everything is going to pull through.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 07, 2012, 08:26:15 PM
Jennie

I got my frozen snowdrop pots home from Myddleton House, stood them in my alpine house at 4C, propped up all the spathes and leaves with labels, let them defrost, then carefully watered. Even so I was sure I would lose two including Chandlers Greentip that I paid an arm and a leg for. Now, 48 hours on, the leaves look normal and springy and I've been able to dispense with the labels, and it looks as if everything is going to pull through.

Oh dear - maybe I should water them a little.  Glad to hear your treasures perked up.  I have slung all the boots off the boot stand outside the back door (under cover) and the snowdrops are all languishing there in above freezing temperatures.  Most look ok but they are going over fast.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 08, 2012, 07:15:54 AM
The wheels on the bus go round and round. Very tired and on my way to Belfast City Airport. Decided to go to the Garden House event. Pot of snowies for Jo smelling great beside me.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: jppreaux on February 08, 2012, 09:15:39 AM
Good morning,

I went to the sale of "Perce-neige" at Myddelton last week-end. I met there  the owner of "Glenchantry" and gave him my email address. I forgot asking his email address for contacting him now. Does somebody has it and could give it to me ? I hope so.
I have spent the sunday in Kent with friends and have seen much snow but not many drops...
I have friends living in Japan. One of them would like to order Galanthus in nurseries (UK, Belgium, Germany... )
Could somebody tell me if a nursery could spend bulbs to Japan ?
 I have already sent bulbs myself but there is a risk and it is not legal...
Thanks for an help.
All the best.
JPierre
 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 08, 2012, 09:18:40 AM
Dear JPierre

I was at Myddleton House too - I would have said hello if I had known you were there.

Wol and Sue Staines are members on here and you can find their email address on their profile on this link

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=861
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: jppreaux on February 08, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
Thank you so much John !
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 08, 2012, 12:10:33 PM
nearly missed my flight "final call for passenger Smyth please make your way to gate B this flight is ready to leave". Oops
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: GoodGrief on February 08, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Heading off on the long drive to Devon. Seems pretty frost-free compared to here in the South East. My snowdrops are still under several inches of snow.

Looking forward to reacquainting myself with galanthus and galathophiles!

Regards, Malcolm.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 08, 2012, 12:58:11 PM
Hope you all have safe journeys and a great time!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on February 08, 2012, 01:50:39 PM
JPierre

Next time do announce on the Forum that you will be visiting.  So sorry to hear that you missed meeting all those friendly Forumists.

johnw
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Torsten Junker on February 08, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
I will also be going tomorrow! Look forward to meeting everyone :)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 08, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
i too am looking forward to tomorrow, i stopped off at Snape cottage on the way down to Plymouth  ;D   had a nice cup of tea with Angela and Olive Mason  :)   
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 09, 2012, 05:22:48 PM
Does anyone know any details about Great Dixter on the 18th Feb?
I wondered if you have to book in advance and/or be a member of the CGS?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
Deatials I have are these Jennie... suggests a Member's Day....I've found the email contact which I didn't have in the previous posting about this event. ......


The Cottage Garden Society’s Snowdrop Group Member’s Day will be held on Saturday 18th February 2012 in Kent. 9am. The venue is Northiam village hall, Northiam, Rye, East Sussex, TN31 6PH and there will be a visit to Great Dixter. Speakers: Richard Hobbs; Tales of Snowdrops. Fergus Garrett; Snowdrops at Great Dixter. Plant sales and Monksilver Nursery order collection.
NB. Members will have received more details in the CGS Snowdrop Group newsletter.
Enquiries to: Marion Swaffield, 46, Willesley Gardens, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, LE65 2QF
Email: marion.swaffield@sky.com
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2012, 06:07:55 PM
Further to the above: see this page http://thecottagegardensociety.org.uk/Regional%20Groups/local_groups/view_group/38 to find details of membership of the CGS Snowdrop Group.....Members must belong to The Cottage Garden Society before they apply to join the snowdrop group.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 09, 2012, 06:15:31 PM
Sorry just catching up and found this.  Yes Jennie, it is a members day, you have to be a member of both the CGS and the snowdrop group or a guest of a member.  I dare say if they are not sold out they might sign you up on the day if you contact them to find out first...
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 09, 2012, 06:33:15 PM
Thanks Maggie & Brian
I have joined the CGS online with Paypal and then thought I would be able to do the same with the Snowdrop Group......but no.....you have to apply by letter.  I have emailed the Group Administrator to ask her advice.  I am also surprised that of all the counties that have a Regional Group there is not one for Kent - this always seems to be the way.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 09, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
Well we hope to see some of you at the Gala on Saturday,thats if it stops snowing here, >:(


And Jennie,I am sure that Marion will help you to get to the CGS day in Kent
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
Well we hope to see some of you at the Gala on Saturday,thats if it stops snowing here, >:(

Still snowing is it? Is it lying around too?

Ooops! Just searched the weather forecast...  it's not a good picture, is it?  
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 09, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
It's snowing heavily here. That, combined with the fact that I'm in bed with a very bad cold/flu thing which seems to be getting worse rather than better, suggests that I probably won't make it to the gala. I suspect I may not be the only one.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 09, 2012, 11:07:21 PM
Yes Maggie,it is still laying,we shall still try to get there, we have all day tomorrow to travel ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: scatigaz on February 10, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Does anyone know of any good snowdrop gardens in northern England that also sell a few of the more unusual varieties. The areas i am looking at are Yorks, Lincs, Derbys and Lancs areas. I have been to hodsocks for the last two years and enjoyed it very much but the plant sales are rather limited. Many thanks Gary.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 11, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
I received my CGS quarterly today and an email from Jean Roscoe.  She said I should write to Gil Hadland about the snowdrop group....but....she may not be organising it anymore so will pass it on to the appropriate person!  It is proving harder to get into the Northiam Village Hall than getting an invitation to the Queens Garden Party  ???

I don't think snail mail back and forth will get me tickets in time - so I give up.  Also it looks as if the snowdrop group may be folding as they cannot find anyone new to run the group.  So that is the outcome of that  :-\
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 11, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
I went to the CGS Snowdrop Group meeting last year and it was very well attended but I'm sure there were spare seats in the hall.  Jennie, given that you are already a CGS member I cannot imagine you would have any trouble getting a ticket if you went along on the day.  Particularly so if you mention that you are a dynamic individual with a flare for organization and a bit of free time on your hands!   
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 11, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
 Particularly so if you mention that you are a dynamic individual with a flare for organization and a bit of free time on your hands!    

Ha!  Free time - what's that?  

A few photos taken outside the back door yesterday - which is as far as I have ventured in the past week

1.  South Hayes - which I have wanted for years
2.  Ray Cobb
3.  My new form of sandersii ex Lowick
4.  gracilis 'large ovary'
5.  Henry's White Lady
6.  Sir Herbert Maxwell
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: vivienr on February 11, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
Does anyone know of any good snowdrop gardens in northern England that also sell a few of the more unusual varieties. The areas i am looking at are Yorks, Lincs, Derbys and Lancs areas. I have been to hodsocks for the last two years and enjoyed it very much but the plant sales are rather limited. Many thanks Gary.

If you can stretch to north Notts. then you could try Felley Priory. It is easy to find just off J27 of the M1. The opening hours are a bit complicated but they are open Tues - Fri and every other Sunday. They do not seem to be having a special snowdrop event this year. They have about 60 snowdrops around the garden. It is not a big garden but has some interesting plants. I have not been this year but in previous years they have had around 20 snowdrop varieties for sale in the small nursery (at reasonable prices) plus other bulbs and perennials.

http://www.felleypriory.co.uk/ (http://www.felleypriory.co.uk/)

Last year I went to Renishaw Hall, south of Sheffield, which had an early plant fair with a lot of snowdrops, but they are not opening til the end of March this year.
I am planning to visit Rode Hall in Cheshire tomorrow (postponed from last week because of snow), but I don't know if they will have anything for sale.
There were a few snowdrop gardens in Lincolnshire that opened under the NGS scheme but I haven't checked them out this year.

http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx (http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-garden-openings-2012.aspx)

I think the hard weather of the last few winters round here has meant that fewer places are willing to open.

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 11, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
Oops, sorry - meant to post the above photos in Feb Snowdrops thread.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: scatigaz on February 11, 2012, 09:56:06 PM
Thanks Vivienr. North Notts is no problem. Might well give that a try. The other one i might try is Easton walled gardens.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 14, 2012, 04:55:43 PM
Just a quick reminder for anyone in Kent this coming weekend: the Kent HPS are holding their annual 'Snowdrop & Hellebore Extravaganza' at Goodnestone Park Gardens on Sunday 19th February, 11.00am to 4.00pm. Rod Leeds is giving a talk at midday (limited seats) and a wide variety of plants and snowdrops will be available for sale. The snow has melted just in time (!) giving us the chance to lift a few of the rarer snowdrops in our garden. Look forward to seeing anyone who can make it into the farther reaches of the south-east!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 15, 2012, 09:07:03 PM
photos from The Garden House study day
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 15, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
some photos from Jo's garden
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 15, 2012, 09:21:27 PM
London RHS show....last picture is for Hagen........some one in my local chip shop must eat gherkins  :-X
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 15, 2012, 09:23:20 PM
I will post more pictures another night  :)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 15, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Hello to any lurkers i may have met on my travels  ;D , it was nice to meet everyone.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 15, 2012, 10:58:16 PM
Has this been mentioned before?
Snowdrop Open Day - 19 Feb
Drops of delight
Open Day at Brandy Mount House for National Galanthus Collection

Sun 19 February  11.00 to 16.00 (In aid of St John's Church Bells Appeal)

More information: www.brandymount.co.uk

Teas at the Alresford Community Centre
Event Location: Brandy Mount House, Alresford, Hampshire SO24 9EG
Event Contact: Mr Michael Baron 01962 732189


Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 15, 2012, 11:27:11 PM
Some random crowd scenes (and it was crowded at lunch time) from the RHS show on Tuesday.  You should be able to spot various galanthophiles and, I think, the gentleman who was attempting the 'KentGardener' look.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 15, 2012, 11:29:49 PM
This one was intended to go in the last post.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 15, 2012, 11:31:07 PM
Other than snowdrops and Hellebores what plants are available to buy at the show?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 16, 2012, 04:16:56 AM
Thanks for the pics of events attended.  I didn't see Melvyn at the RHS show but can see him in a picture.   Shame I didn't get the chance to say hello.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Melvyn Jope on February 16, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
Good morning John,
Sorry to miss you, I had to leave the show at 11.30 which I think is about the time that you arrived. Thanks for your blog photos, hope you have a good holiday.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 16, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
Thanks for the pics of events attended.  I didn't see Melvyn at the RHS show but can see him in a picture.   Shame I didn't get the chance to say hello.

There are a lot of us looking forward to seeing Melvyn, and Martin Denny, at Dunblane this Saturday..... we can all say hello to him on your behalf  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 17, 2012, 05:12:11 PM
And their fame continues to spread.

http://sea-of-immeasurable-gravy.blogspot.com/2012/02/shiny-happy-people-2012.html?spref=fb
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 17, 2012, 05:20:36 PM
Hoorah.  A picture of Jennies new hat.   ;D

They missed one though - I counted 4 at the show.   ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 17, 2012, 05:51:08 PM
And their fame continues to spread.

http://sea-of-immeasurable-gravy.blogspot.com/2012/02/shiny-happy-people-2012.html?spref=fb


 ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
And their fame continues to spread.

http://sea-of-immeasurable-gravy.blogspot.com/2012/02/shiny-happy-people-2012.html?spref=fb


 ;D

 Am I the only person thinking there is a business opportunity here for Emma and Mrs T. making  Elizabeth Harrison Hats?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on February 17, 2012, 07:08:43 PM
I'll bet T&M have lawyers working round the clock to copyright the name!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 17, 2012, 07:09:28 PM
Now I see what you mean about the hats - they are great, even better collectors items than the snowdrops! Does anyone remember the famous gardener Thelma Kay; she was an extremely fine gardener and also maker of hats. Maybe the two go together?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2012, 07:30:36 PM
I'll bet T&M have lawyers working round the clock to copyright the name!

I don't think they can. The snowdrop is in the market with the name already. The reason they paid 50k for that hyacinth was, I think to have the whole rights to it. Here they've bought one snowdrop.

It's a good idea for a publicity campaign from T&M's view,  though. They'll get any amount of free air time on this, though less perhaps than it might have got if a private buyer had been successful.  That alone will earn them a fortune, even if the micro-propping fails and they never get it to market in mass.  There are others with the drop, it will go on in their hands, also.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ronm on February 17, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
I say  ... so what?? T&M have paid the ( unbelievable for me ) amount of money. If they do well from it in the future, great! If not ... well that's business. I wish they would do this with many, many, many, more of the Fritillaria, Scorpiris, Oncocyclus, Scilla, Crocus, Muscari, Narcissus, etc. get the message? If they did I may be able to grow thousands of these stunners in my garden instead of one or two and hoping I live long enough to see a colony!
Hope you make £ millions T&M !!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2012, 08:22:22 PM
I'd like it if more of the affordable  stuff they (T&M) sell  would actually live long enough to grow.... :-X
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ronm on February 17, 2012, 08:25:42 PM
I have no experience of that Maggi. ??? ???
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
Lucky you, Ron .... I have and several others have reported trouble of that nature inthe Forum over time... :'(
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ronm on February 17, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
Sorry Maggi, newbie here and hadn't caught up with those postings yet. I'm sure there have been issues, as there are with many plant purchases from whoever, ( see discussions on naming various species of many genera on many threads etc.). " Conservation though propagation and distribution". Would we rather have had a private buyer, and maybe never seen it again? I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2012, 08:55:09 PM
Quite so, Ron.... you make a good point.... I don't disagree with you... just smarting from some wasted cash in the past, that's all!  :P
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ranunculus on February 17, 2012, 10:01:04 PM
Now I see what you mean about the hats - they are great, even better collectors items than the snowdrops! Does anyone remember the famous gardener Thelma Kay; she was an extremely fine gardener and also maker of hats. Maybe the two go together?

That's amazing Tim ... we were only discussing Thelma a few days ago.  We were fortunate enough to welcome her as a lecturer to East Lancs AGS many moons ago and to visit her garden in Cheshire on a group outing.  What a formidable, but enchanting character.
She welcomed us to her garden and lectured indoors with her navy blue hat on.   ;D

... And well done - you have forced me to contribute to a SNOWDROP topic (completely against my better judgement)!   :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 18, 2012, 09:56:48 AM
Yes - Thelma came and talked to our HPS Group and stayed with us. I was amazed what she was growing in her garden in what I thought was the freezing cold 'north' - plants like Bomarea which flowered and set seed on the wall of her house. In fact I realise now that the climate here may well be colder with the continental influence. Apparently she was a friend of Lowry and had one of his paintings, so hats and gardening, and wonderful art (and she was also a magistrate) all go together. It says a lot about the value of gardening!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 18, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
And their fame continues to spread.

http://sea-of-immeasurable-gravy.blogspot.com/2012/02/shiny-happy-people-2012.html?spref=fb


 ;D

 Am I the only person thinking there is a business opportunity here for Emma and Mrs T. making  Elizabeth Harrison Hats?  ??? ;)

I will get right on it  ;D and will have a word with Mrs T  aka some lady lol
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 18, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
some hats in the making and 4 finished hats  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on February 18, 2012, 03:40:53 PM
Emma, this is so nice!!!

Your mother is very creative. Next year you can sell some at the Gala. I would be the first to buy one.

Second row, second hat is my favorite!

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 18, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
Our snowdrop day happened today. As usual it was cold and trying to snow now and again. The plant stall raised over £400 from under 12 varieties for sale £5 to £20 each with one or two bulbs per pot. Two gardens as usual were fantastic with some great clumps of desireable snowdrops.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 18, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
some hats in the making and 4 finished hats  ;D

These are superb!

And SUCH fun!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 18, 2012, 08:34:33 PM
some hats in the making and 4 finished hats  ;D

These are superb!

And SUCH fun!

Why thank you  :-*
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 18, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
Went to the CGS Snowdrop group meeting today in Northiam,Kent,then on to the Gardens at Great Dixter,a superb day and thankfully we missed the rain,ooooooooooh and I actually won a prize in the raffle(makes a change for me)great to meet up with some forum members,and lurkers.......................you know who you are ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 18, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
Utterly zonked after a round trip to the Dutch event at Boschoeve via a Study Day at Colesbourne.   Thanks to Alan B for the suggestion, and to forumists Lina and Loes who were so hospitable, and all their friends including Hanneke van Dijk and Annie Fallinger. Gert-Jan van der K gave a fascinating talk liberally laced with pictures of the desirable and unattainable. Boschoeve is essentially a huge barn + polytunnels where you can buy every spring bulb imaginable, anemone, paeonia, oxalis, dahlia, flowering shrubs at prices much lower than UK, etc. Purchased Funny Justine and Rheingold. Quietly spent 2 euros on a greentip 4x4 woronowii lurking in a crate of ordinary worononwii. Visited Harry Pierik's  fascinating Zwolle garden and saw the first poc scharlockii. On to Leiden to buy a violin and back to the Hook, off the ferry at Harwich at 6.30 am, and down to the Northiam CGS event where SRGC aficionados were noticeably thin on the ground (maybe you are all back at work making money to afford Feb. 2013?),  started nodding off during the talks, came home and crashed.  
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: emma T on February 18, 2012, 08:57:12 PM
ooo id love a 'Funny Justine ' just for the name alone (it also looks quite quirky  ::)  )
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 18, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
I'd have bought some also - maybe next year I'll visit the Netherlands as an alternative to the Gala
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 18, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
Visited their nursery last march and left my e mail address for one this year, and heard nothing,I see they were advertised on the web site at 40 Euro's,and said they were sold out
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on February 18, 2012, 09:14:36 PM
It was indeed a lovely day at the Boschhoeve and in Harry Pieriks garden. It was very nice meeting Steve and all the others mentioned. Next week in Nettetal we hope to meet forumists and/or lurkers too.

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on February 18, 2012, 09:21:54 PM
Yes - Thelma came and talked to our HPS Group and stayed with us. I was amazed what she was growing in her garden in what I thought was the freezing cold 'north' - plants like Bomarea which flowered and set seed on the wall of her house. In fact I realise now that the climate here may well be colder with the continental influence. Apparently she was a friend of Lowry and had one of his paintings, so hats and gardening, and wonderful art (and she was also a magistrate) all go together. It says a lot about the value of gardening!

I knew Thelma well and in fact the bomarea which was a wonderful sight grew under a plastic roof of her carport in a narrow bed.

She did indeed have a Lowry which was hung in the lounge.Formidable yes but generous to a fault with her plants.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 19, 2012, 01:05:30 AM
some hats in the making and 4 finished hats  ;D

How did I miss this thread?!  What a surprise to see my head on that blog!  A lady did come up to me and ask me if she could take a photograph of the hat as she said she collects anything to do with snowdrops!  She asked me where I bought it - and I answered ......well....from some lady on ebay of course  ;)

Love the new collection of designs.  I like the one on the second row (left) and the grey version of mine at the bottom.  Everyone on the forum should own one and wear them to the RHS next year - Arabella will be running around in pure excitement.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: kentish_lass on February 19, 2012, 01:12:16 AM
Went to the CGS Snowdrop group meeting today in Northiam,Kent,then on to the Gardens at Great Dixter,a superb day and thankfully we missed the rain,ooooooooooh and I actually won a prize in the raffle(makes a change for me)great to meet up with some forum members,and lurkers.......................you know who you are ;D ;D ;D

Glad to hear you missed the rain Chas.  I really wanted to go and had the ticket and everything....but I cannot drive as my sight is very blurry now and I can hardly read let alone drive.  Roll on 6th March when I go to Moorfields Eye Hospital to get it sorted out.  What was the collection at Dixter like?  Who was selling at the CGS?  Any photos anyone?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 19, 2012, 10:58:48 AM
... and saw the first poc scharlockii.   

That would be 'Charlotte Jean' I take it Steve?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 19, 2012, 12:46:19 PM
Firstly a picture of Hunton Giant growing well in David and Anke Way's garden,which we visited the day before the CGS Day







Secondly a couple of pictures from Great Dixter on Saturday Afternoon before the rains came




Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 19, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
... and saw the first poc scharlockii.   

That would be 'Charlotte Jean' I take it Steve?

I was with Joe Sharman when he found "Charlotte Jean" (as it has now been named).  Although it has a split spathe, it was in amongst a large population of entirely normal nivalis snowdrops growing "wild".  So there is nothing whatsoever to suggest it derives from scharlockii snowdrops; it just shares a common feature of a split spathe.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: johnw on February 19, 2012, 08:34:53 PM
I was with Joe Sharman when he found "Charlotte Jean" (as it has now been named).

She's immaculate.  Has she hit the streets yet?

johnw
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 19, 2012, 08:52:53 PM
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 19, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
We were very lucky to have a beautiful sunny day for the snowdrop and hellebore day at Goodnestone Park in Kent. Something like 550 people turned up, though relatively few real snowdrop afficianados. But then you only need a few to generate quite a bit of excitement! Rod and Jane Leeds brought some really special varieties along and my long awaited desire for the distinct 'Godfrey Owen' was satisfied. Rod gave a talk at midday on winter and early spring bulbs, which was fascinating and entertaining, and introduced many of us (even knowledgeable AGS members!) to a host of new and different plants, such as the Japanese 'tulip' Amana edulis (very hardy and flowering now), a range of new forms of Eranthis, a number of crocus (dalmaticus really stood out for me), a mouthwatering selection of snowdrops of course, and some fine fritillaries (including the very nice yellow form of pyrenaica).

The garden at Goodnestone does not have a wide selection of unusual snowdrops but has been planted with increasing drifts of nivalis over the past ten of fifteen years which make a fine show under the trees. The owner, and maker of much of the garden, Margaret Fitzwalter, has been a good friend of the Kent Hardy Plant Society for many years, and it makes a pleasant and relaxed place to hold an event like this. The success of the snowdrop day over the last ten or so years prompted us to celebrate with a 'Snowdrop Cake' (actually suggested by pictures put on this forum earlier on - so our thanks), which made a nice morsel at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 19, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
I was with Joe Sharman when he found "Charlotte Jean" (as it has now been named).

She's immaculate.  Has she hit the streets yet?

johnw

There is a picture here http://galanthus-online.de/kultivare-a-d/charlotte-jean.html

To the best of my recollection, Joe Sharman sold a small number via his list in 2010.  These were sold as "Charlotte" but the name was changed to "Charlotte Jean" when it became known that there was already a snowdrop named "Charlotte".  Since then I understand he has sold a few more at shows (I'm indebted to 'KentGardener' who told me some of this). 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ChrisD on February 20, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
Firstly a picture of Hunton Giant growing well in David and Anke Way's garden,which we visited the day before the CGS Day


Chas

I tend to prefer the taller/larger drops, is Hunton Giant really a giant? Lovely group in your photo but it is always difficult to get an idea of scale from a photo.

What others do people grow that are noticeably taller?

Thanks

Chris
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 20, 2012, 10:32:41 PM
I dont own any pocs because of the difficulty telling them apart without labels. I would buy Charlotte Jean. Who sells it?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 20, 2012, 10:35:29 PM
This Sunday is Margaret Owen's snowdrop day. All money raised from entry, snowdrop sales, soup, cake, coffee, tea goes to MS.

If you go you will meet Ian Christie. I'm sure he'll be amazed by her collection and will anyone who has never been. Sadly the N. Irish 3 are not attending this year. I wish I was
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 20, 2012, 11:47:29 PM
This Sunday is Margaret Owen's snowdrop day. All money raised from entry, snowdrop sales, soup, cake, coffee, tea goes to MS.

If you go you will meet Ian Christie. I'm sure he'll be amazed by her collection and will anyone who has never been. Sadly the N. Irish 3 are not attending this year. I wish I was

Mark, is there a link to a website with info on opening time, directions etc?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 21, 2012, 07:18:49 AM
The address is Acton Piggot near Shrewsbury. There will be signs up pointing the way. Gate open at 11am or maybe 12pm
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 21, 2012, 07:50:38 AM
.... I would buy Charlotte Jean. Who sells it?

Pay attention Mark; Joe Sharman has been offering for sale since 2010, but only occasionally. 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 21, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
This Sunday is Margaret Owen's snowdrop day. All money raised from entry, snowdrop sales, soup, cake, coffee, tea goes to MS.

If you go you will meet Ian Christie. I'm sure he'll be amazed by her collection and will anyone who has never been. Sadly the N. Irish 3 are not attending this year. I wish I was

Mark, is there a link to a website with info on opening time, directions etc?
From previous years - and I expect the same applies this year -  the notice has been :
Garden  of Mrs Margaret Owen MBE, open, 11am-3pm, The Patch, Acton Pigott, nr Acton Burnell, Shrewsbury SY5 7PH.
Snowdrops for sale, raffle, produce, hot soup, home-made cakes, tea & coffee. Entry £3, proceeds to Multiple Sclerosis charity (01743 362139).

 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 21, 2012, 01:05:09 PM
I cannot remember why we are discussing "Charlotte Jean" in this thread but here is a picture (taken today).  She not really doing what she is supposed to; the spathe on the right is split to a depth of about 2mm although you cannot see that from this camera angle. 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 21, 2012, 01:11:16 PM
Lovely Alan, does the spathe split even more?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 21, 2012, 02:37:32 PM
Good question Brian.  I have only had mine since April 2010 and I don't have a picture of it in flower from last year.  However I do have a picture of it growing in-situ in 2004 so I'll let you be the judge.     
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 21, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
Cheers Alan, I think I see some of them with a deeper split - or is that wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 22, 2012, 10:28:50 AM
... and saw the first poc scharlockii.   

That would be 'Charlotte Jean' I take it Steve?
No Brian, Charlotte Jean is not a scharlockii. It was found in a population devoid of scharlockii types. The snowdrop I saw in Holland is the first poculiform scharlockii.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 22, 2012, 05:37:09 PM
... and saw the first poc scharlockii.   

That would be 'Charlotte Jean' I take it Steve?
No Brian, Charlotte Jean is not a scharlockii. It was found in a population devoid of scharlockii types. The snowdrop I saw in Holland is the first poculiform scharlockii.
Does it have a name then Steve?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 22, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Yes, but courtesy requires that it is the discoverer/namer who should have the pleasure of announcing it.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 22, 2012, 09:11:20 PM
Do let us know when it is announced
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
I cannot remember why we are discussing "Charlotte Jean" in this thread but here is a picture (taken today).  She not really doing what she is supposed to; the spathe on the right is split to a depth of about 2mm although you cannot see that from this camera angle.  
Lovely Alan, does the spathe split even more?
Good question Brian.  I have only had mine since April 2010 and I don't have a picture of it in flower from last year.  However I do have a picture of it growing in-situ in 2004 so I'll let you be the judge.      

Günter Waldorf's page for G. 'Charlotte Jean'
http://galanthus-online.de/kultivare-a-d/charlotte-jean.html  ...shows a sharlockii scharlokii- very lovely it is, too.

 Edit to correct spelling error.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 22, 2012, 10:54:47 PM
Yes, Maggi, but we are going round in circles here.  Charlotte Jean sometimes must have a split spathe like a Sharlockii because that is how Joe Sharman has described it and how Günter Waldorf has photographed it - but manifestly not every time or every year.  The one I have now was very kindly given to me by Joe Sharman because I lost my original but neither of my two flowers has a split in the spathe of any note.  Nor do many of the flowers in my picture of the original source clump.  The source was a wood full of normal nivalis snowdrops without split spathes.   
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2012, 10:05:50 AM
Alan, yes we see again and again that so many of the named 'drops are not stable in the characterisitics that made them stand out. But Joe described CJ as a sharlockiischarlockii, did he not? This is a differential from "normal" nivalis. Is it not the case that most named drops have been singled out as being different from their peers?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 23, 2012, 02:31:28 PM
Yes, Maggi, but you're not called Maggi Young just because of your youthful appearance but because Young is your family name.  Likewise I think a Scharlockii should be so-named because it derives from other snowdrops in that family, not just because it has the appearance of a Scharlockii.  And CJ was found on a bank of normal earless nivalis snowdrops in a wood full of normal earless nivalis snowdrops.   
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 23, 2012, 10:58:59 PM
Thanks Alan, that's clear.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 12:40:55 AM
Yes, Maggi, but you're not called Maggi Young just because of your youthful appearance but because Young is your family name.  Likewise I think a Scharlockii should be so-named because it derives from other snowdrops in that family, not just because it has the appearance of a Scharlockii.  And CJ was found on a bank of normal earless nivalis snowdrops in a wood full of normal earless nivalis snowdrops.  

A youthful appearance? I should be so lucky!  ;D
I am called Mrs Young because I married Mr Young.

Galanthus nivalis 'Sharlockii'  'Scharlokii' usually has green tipped outers and the deeply split spathe.
As I understand it, it can arise in any nivalis population and comes true from seed.
A white version can thus be expected to appear  in some otherwise "normal" populations, even without a significant presence of other sharlockii types. There must always be a situation where one plant is the first.  
The literature describing these plants seems to support this. Good enough for me  ;)


edit to correct mis-spelling
 
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 24, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Galanthus nivalis 'Sharlockii'  usually has green tipped outers and the deeply split spathe.
As I understand it, it can arise in any nivalis population and comes true from seed.
A white version can thus be expected to appear  in some otherwise "normal" populations, even without a significant presence of other sharlockii types.

The problem with Scharlockii is that it celebrates its 200th anniversary in 6 years time and at least a proportion of its seedlings comes true.  Therefore it is extremely widespread in cultivation but with many variants.  Under those circumstances I think it is quite dangerous to believe that it has arisen spontaneously in a garden in any country where snowdrops are widely cultivated.  On the other hand, there is now no way to distinguish a snowdrop with a large split spathe that has arisen by a spontaneous mutation in an otherwise normal population from a pre-existing Scharlockii variant that has got there by chance (e.g. squirrels).

At this year's Galanthus Gala there was a very interesting talk by Dr Joze Bavcon on Slovenian snowdrops.  Slovenia has a wide distribution of wild G. nivalis and Dr Bavcon has found many unusual and interesting forms.  To the best of my recollection he made no mention of ever finding a Scharlockii type.  This must either mean they don't occur or they are so commonplace that they are not worthy of note.  If it is the former then I would be inclined to believe that they rarely arise spontaneously in a truly wild population.  Is anybody in a position to pose this question to Dr Bavcon?


Today I had some free time and went to look for Charlotte Jean in her original location.  After a lot of concentrated staring I found two all-white poculiform flowers with a large split spathe roughly where I remember Joe Sharman found them in 2004.  They were the only poculiform snowdrops I found there and the only snowdrops I found with a large split spathe.  I took a photograph of these snowdrops in-situ which I had hoped I could post here as a challenge to spot the two flowers in a sea of normal snowdrops but I cannot do this because you lose the resolution that is necessary to see the detail if I reduce the file size to the 500kB required to fit the forum.  Pity, because I think it would have made 'Where's Wally/Waldo' seem trivially easy.                       
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 05:30:58 PM
Alan....about your photo dilemma... might you post the picture of the group and another of a magnified area of your photo? That might work for you.  It is possible to retain a great deal of info in a photo under the 500kb size, as has been demonstrated often in these pages, where the most extraordinary details can be clearly seen.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 24, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
Here's my picture but at this resolution it's too pixelated to be able to make out the split spathe or be sure about the lack of markings.  I'll post a magnified area presently.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2012, 06:49:43 PM
Thank you, Alan.... I can see one at least... it does look like a Scharlockii scharlokii to my eyes.

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 24, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
I sent Brian Ellis a copy of the full-resolution photo and he got it very rapidly - but I'll wait a while before posting the magnified area shot to give others a chance to play.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 24, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
Years of practice on schoolbooks and proof reading Alan ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
Ian Christie will be at Margaret Owen's day on Sunday. Make sure you saw hello to him.

The weather forecast is for a good day. It will be warm so the snowdrops should be looking great. I'm well jeal.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: steve owen on February 26, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
Margaret's garden was a picture, warm sunlight and fairly still. Snowdrops at their absolute best. Probably the best-grown snowdrops I have seen bar Wol and Sue Staines' - a high bar indeed. The cream cake was amazing. Some interesting snowdrops on the sales table, some I hadn't heard of before, i.e. Charles Wingfield, Chris Sanders, Finale, and Tricia Tay. Ian Christie was in good form. Margaret has a small patch of Boyds Double that was flowering its head off - an incentive to get mine to do the same.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on February 26, 2012, 07:36:43 PM
Here's a close-up of my earlier shot.  Easy now?

Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 26, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
Steve I'm sure Finale is in your garden - Washfield Warham

Charles - http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20charles%20wingfield.html (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20charles%20wingfield.html)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 26, 2012, 08:05:23 PM
Here's a close-up of my earlier shot.  Easy now?



Yep. I can see them both.  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on February 26, 2012, 10:20:01 PM
Ian Christie will be at Margaret Owen's day on Sunday. Make sure you saw hello to him.
He was, and I did, also Cyril.

The weather forecast is for a good day. It will be warm so the snowdrops should be looking great.
It was, and they were  ;D

Margaret has a small patch of Boyds Double that was flowering its head off
Nice to meet you, as well, Steve.  No pics??

I'll start off with that Boyd's Double - not to everyone's taste, but certainly in good form
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on February 26, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Priscilla Bacon
Bess
Chris Sanders
Gwen Black
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on February 26, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
A few unknowns
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on February 26, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
A Trym-type
Poculiform
Trimmer
The Whopper
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2012, 10:30:40 PM
Ian Christie will be at Margaret Owen's day on Sunday. Make sure you say hello to him.
He was, and I did, also Cyril.

Nothing like a bit of sun to make them look good.... and the snowdrops, too  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on February 26, 2012, 10:33:23 PM
E A Bowles
and my personal favourite, Woodpeckers
And to finish - That's not a snowdrop

Two stories overheard on the way round
1. (looking at the Leucojum) "that's a nice snowdrop, it's got spotty dotty petals"
2. "did you hear about that rare snowdrop in Scotland that went for thousands of pounds - I think it was a pink one"
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: mark smyth on February 26, 2012, 10:48:00 PM
what a year to miss Margaret Owens. Probably the warmest day there in years
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 27, 2012, 08:51:19 AM
Thanks Diane, some lovely ones there.
Quote
and my personal favourite, Woodpeckers
Yes it is a nice one, never seen it but it looks good in the photos.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: loes on February 27, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
Very,very nice photos Diane .my favourite is Boyd's  Double,a freaky beauty
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: chasw on February 27, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
I'm hoping that my Boyd's double will open up this year looks really good in your picture Diane
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on February 28, 2012, 06:36:32 AM
Very,very nice photos Diane .my favourite is Boyd's  Double,a freaky beauty

I have to agree.  Freakily beautiful.  Still on my wish list. Ihave never seen it in the flesh anywhere.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ArnoldT on February 29, 2012, 02:49:32 AM
A bit of Galantomania on this side.

http://lindenhillgardens.com/about-jerry/galanthus/
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: art600 on February 29, 2012, 08:12:42 AM
I am glad I live here and can buy at UK prices  :o
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ichristie on March 01, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
Hi all. Cyril and I had a fantastic time on our trip down South the first visit was to Margaret Owens garden on the Sat then back on the Sunday for the sale it was really sunny and all the snowdrops were fantastic. We managed to meet several of the Snowdrop greats will post more pictures from the trip later, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 01, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
On monday we had a lovely day with a small group, visiting eachothers garden.
We started with coffee and snowdropcake!

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Paddy Tobin on March 01, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
Well, there's style: Ian modelling the latest range of snowdrop jackets. Looking very well,

Lovely to see Margaret Owen's garden. It is one I have heard a great deal of from friend.

Paddy
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 01, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
On monday we had a lovely day with a small group, visiting eachothers garden.
We started with coffee and snowdropcake!

Lina.
The very best way to start, Lina! 

And behind the terrace I see some VERY BIG snowdrops... real giants!
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 01, 2012, 08:19:28 PM
Maggi, these are real collectors items! ;D

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 01, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
Maggi, these are real collectors items! ;D

Lina.
I can believe that..... but I expect not many people have a garden large enough for such rare flowers  :o
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: ichristie on March 02, 2012, 07:59:27 AM
Hello again, we left Margarets and headed South to visit Robin and Sue White at Blackthorn, Cyril has created some new Daphne hybrids which Robin is quite excited about. We had a really special tour around the garden by Robin and Sue and stayed at The Flower Pots where else would a gardener stay? a great pub and good food and beer, a few pictures, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 02, 2012, 08:07:05 AM
Thanks for the pics, Ian. Nice to see Robin and Sue's garden again - haven't been there since the nursery closed.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: loes on March 02, 2012, 10:31:04 AM
On monday we had a lovely day with a small group, visiting eachothers garden.
We started with coffee and snowdropcake!

Lina.
The very best way to start, Lina! 

And behind the terrace I see some VERY BIG snowdrops... real giants!

Funny enough I do have the same very,very big snowdrops!

They are in the sittingroom now but they are too big,I have to find a new home for them.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Thomas Seiler on March 02, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
Impressions from my snowdrop lunch last Sunday:
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 02, 2012, 09:10:05 PM
Great atmosphere, Thomas!
Your snowdropcake looks very tasty. And i adore the youngest member at lunch.
Is it family?

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Thomas Seiler on March 02, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
Not family, but a very good friend. Young Meta is 6 months old. When grown up, she eventually might dream of a garden with snowdrops and does not know why ...  :)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: JimF on March 02, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
To everyone posting photos and descriptions of galas, events, visits, and national collections - THANK YOU! I swing between swooning and being green tipped with envy.

Meanwhile my mind swirls at all the new snowdrops. We only need pink singles, pink doubles and pink albinos, as well as climbing forms of all sorts before it can ever stop!

May it never stop.

Jim
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on March 03, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
Thank you for sharing the pictures of the snowdrop lunch Thomas.  I wonder why one poor person has been banished to be outside while you all tuck into the delicious cake in picture number 5.   :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 03, 2012, 09:19:51 AM
Now I am beginning to wonder if the 'snowdrop cakes' will make their way onto ebay! I always thought that the real reason to grow snowdrops was the warm meal inside after looking at them in the garden. What lovely pictures.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Thomas Seiler on March 03, 2012, 06:07:53 PM
Thank you for sharing the pictures of the snowdrop lunch Thomas.  I wonder why one poor person has been banished to be outside while you all tuck into the delicious cake in picture number 5.   :D
Sad fate of a smoker ... ;D  But it wasn't really cold outside that day ...  :D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2012, 06:18:51 PM
Thank you for sharing the pictures of the snowdrop lunch Thomas.  I wonder why one poor person has been banished to be outside while you all tuck into the delicious cake in picture number 5.   :D
Sad fate of a smoker ... ;D  But it wasn't really cold outside that day ...  :D

 ;D ;) I guessed that was it!  Poor soul... his own choice though... and the food was just as good with a great view  :) 8)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on March 06, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
Alan, yes we see again and again that so many of the named 'drops are not stable in the characterisitics that made them stand out. But Joe described CJ as a sharlockiischarlockii, did he not? This is a differential from "normal" nivalis. Is it not the case that most named drops have been singled out as being different from their peers?

We had a very interesting talk this evening on plant hunting in Western Turkey from Joe who had been looking at primula found at the point where the alpine variety gives way to P.sibthorpii (have I got that right) at about 900m.  I took the opportunity to ask him about 'Charlotte Jean'.  He confirmed that there are other European examples of poculiform Galanthus nivalis 'Scharlockii', however 'Charlotte Jean' is the first named.  We can argue all we like about which was found first, but this one was named first.  He confirms that I had heard him correctly at the Blacksmith's talk.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 10, 2012, 05:00:14 PM
Today, together with a group of gardenfriends, I visited a very nice snowdropgarden in the northern part of Holland.

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Brian Ellis on March 10, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
Lovely to see such a mass of snowdrops Lina, thanks for showing us ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 10, 2012, 10:46:16 PM
So pretty right to the edge of the pool.  I guess there are no ducks?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: KentGardener on March 11, 2012, 05:54:32 AM
Lovely Lina - fingers crossed I might get to see some snowdrops in Holland during 2013.   ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Alan_b on March 11, 2012, 08:10:27 AM
That's a fantastic quantity of snowdrops in lovely setting, Lina.  Are they all nivalis and all the same?
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 11, 2012, 09:32:44 AM
John and Alan, they are nivalis and flore pleno. The owners bought the place about 40 years ago, the snowdrops were there then already. It is an historical stone house. There are also lots of wild tulips but they do not flower. Does anyone know why this happens?

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 11, 2012, 09:59:04 AM
It would be great to have you here, John.

Lina.
Title: Re: Snowdrop events 2012
Post by: Carolyn Walker on March 17, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
I thought everyone might like to see a galanthophile event in the US.  On March 10, Winterthur Garden in Delaware, which encompasses 60 acres and has the best naturalized collection of snowdrops in the US, held its annual Bank to Bend lecture.  The speaker was David Culp, a very knowledgeable US horticulturalist with a passion for snowdrops (you may have met him at past Galas), and his topic was "Snowdrops: Jewels of the Winter Garden".  The lecture was preceded by a fabulous brunch and followed by guided tours of the March Bank of bulbs.  Normally, snowdrops would have been in bloom but because of the extremely warm weather that we have been having it was more glory-of-the-snow.  Follow this link to see a short slideshow of the gardens: http://gardenblog.winterthur.org/2012/03/16/friday-wanderings/ (http://gardenblog.winterthur.org/2012/03/16/friday-wanderings/).  Carolyn

1.  The Winterthur mansion, formerly the home of the du Pont family and now the premier museum of American decorative arts, with glory of the snow.

2.  Carolyn's Shade Gardens sales table of snowdrops, hellebores, etc.

3.  Charles Cresson, a US bulb authority, with a prominent local collector.

4.  The lecturer David Culp on left, local collector middle, Hitch Lyman from Temple Nursery, whom many of you know, on the right.
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