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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Diane Whitehead on September 02, 2011, 02:43:49 AM
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Kirengeshoma palmata with flaring flowers like yellow lilies.
I have never seen it looking like this - they've always been
almost tubular.
It's been a very cool summer. Could that have caused it?
I didn't have my camera, so can't append a photo.
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Have you checked K. coreana (koreana/koreana group)? Or read Dan Hinkley's description in his book (http://www.danielhinkley.com/uploads/thumbnails/Hinkley_Perennials_150x0.jpg)
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I think it often takes some nicer weather to get the Kirengeshoma to fully open its flowers , Diane.... though this can, and does, happen, even in the UK!! I remember seeing it looking very lily-like in the Stones' garden at Fort Augustus.
I can't show you a photo of one I grow... because it is one of the (many) plants Ian tells me we have no room to grow.... here is a picture from the RBGE site:
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Diane, if it's of any help for you here is what I always have grown as K. koreana ( coreana?)
Kirengeshoma koreana
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Yes, my friend also grows koreana, which is smaller and paler. It was also opening wider
than normal.
My palmata is not open yet. It doesn't often manage to get beyond the bud stage, because
it is a favoured snack for deer.
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Trip round the garden with the camera today getting pics of what shouldn't be in flower at this time of the year.
Helleborus-a double pink form
Dryas sundermanii-the third set of flowers this year-sorry about fuzzy pic.
Pulsatilla
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Yes, my friend also grows koreana, which is smaller and paler. It was also opening wider
than normal.
My palmata is not open yet. It doesn't often manage to get beyond the bud stage, because
it is a favoured snack for deer.
According to literature koreana is the taller one and with more open flowers which are not as nodding and pendulous as palmata.
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This is Viola pedata - the bicoloured variety - growing in a sand bed -
in the first line especially built for this tricky species. Autumn flowers are
not unusual with this violet.
Gerd
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Gerdk - that is a truly stunning Viola!
My contribution is Bessera elegans.
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Thank you Meanie, Love your Bessera too. If I only would be able to
cultivate this outstanding autumn flowerer with more success.
Gerd
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Meanie, great pic of a lovely plant!
Poul
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Some highlights from my garden
Oxalis lobata
Colchicum pannonicum
Colchicum hybrid
Arum italicum
Eucomis bicolor
Different Tigridas
Sternbergia lutea
Poul
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Very nice Poul. My Tigridias were in flower weeks ago and are in fruit now. Can you get away with leaving them in the garden through the winter where you are?
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Thank you David! No they are not hardy here so I must lift them and keep them frostfree during winter.
Poul
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Ferns at Wisley from the weekend:
Cheilanthes maderensis
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Cheilanthes sieberi:
(they had many other Cheilanthes on display, as well)
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Nice to see all the beautiful and colourful plants still cheering us and the gardens up at the start of autumn. Here many plants are still in bloom, but have been so for a long period in this cold and wet summer.
The Alcea kurdica has had 4-5 stalks blooming for at least six weeks now. It is a wonderful plant, very pale yellow, robust, and reliable. Last year something ate its petals, I suspected snails until a large chunk of petal flew past my nose, in the firm grip of a wasp. A few minutes later the wasp was back, cut another piece and took off in the same direction. Stripped almost all the flowers, but haven't been seen this year. The very dark Hollyhock (Alcea sp 'Black Watchman'?) is included for contrast, flowers at the same time, but it struggles in our garden at only half the height of the A. kurdica.
The Amorpha nana is another reliable flowerer here for late August and September. I have it at the edge of the rock garden, freezing back in the winter keeps it compact. The individual flowers are very small, the spike about 10 cm (4") long. It took a few years before it started flowering, but that wasn't really a problem, as the foliage is very attractive.
The Clematis heracleifolia was very late to appear after the winter this year, I thought we had lost it. Its flowers also appeared very late, only a week or two ago. The flowers are small at less than 2 cm (3/4") across, but the colour is as beautiful as its smell.
The Fuchsia magellanica in the last picture froze right back to the ground last winter, and is only now coming into bloom. These buds opened just last week.
Knud
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Knud, the clematis is stunning... but you have lots of interesting plants there to cheer this season.
I hope you have good enough weather for the Fuchsia to open lots of blooms after its late start. !
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The Amorpha nana is another reliable flowerer here for late August and September. I have it at the edge of the rock garden, freezing back in the winter keeps it compact. The individual flowers are very small, the spike about 10 cm (4") long. It took a few years before it started flowering, but that wasn't really a problem, as the foliage is very attractive.
Some lovely things there Knud I hadn't heard of this one, the foliage reminds me of indigofera.
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Thank you, Maggi and Brian. Yes, there is still a lot of flowers to brighten the garden, and in this dark and dreary weather we are having they appear brighter than normal. But only eight or so flowers on the fuchsia this year.
You are right Brian, it looks like indigofera. Its various common names in North America, where it comes from, include at least two of the following words: dwarf, false, fragrant, wild, indigo, indigobush. Ours has a pleasant sweet, but faint smell. Amorpha is in the pea-family, and grows in various prairie-types in Canada and the US. Its name apparently refers to its 'mis-shapen' flower, it has only one petal. If I remember correctly, we got seeds for this plant from Kristl's Gardens North about 10 years ago.
Knud
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Knud, your Clematis heracleifolia is better coloured than mine but my Fuchsias are more floriferous than yours (this year at least) ;)
Although they often freeze down they always reappear.
Fuchsia magellanica riccartoni and F. m. molinae
I haven't tried any Amorpha yet.
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Believe it or not, it is a wet afternoon here in what is called the sunny south east (of Ireland) and time I posted a few photographs of things in flower at the moment.
Colchicum 'Waterlily'
Actaea rubra in fruit
Hydrangea 'Ayesha'
Hydrangea 'Vanille Fraise'
Kniphofia caulescens
Potentialla 'Arc en Ciel'
Viburnum setigerum in fruit
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Very nice Paddy. I especially liked the Potentilla, how tall is it please?
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A lovely dark Alcea Knud, and a nice group of Colchicum Paddy.
A couple from me.
Anemone hupehensis
Allium senescens montanum ssp. glaucum
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Knud, your Clematis heracleifolia is better coloured than mine but my Fuchsias are more floriferous than yours (this year at least) ;)
I haven't tried any Amorpha yet.
Hei Trond,
I read somewhere that the colour of the C. heracleifolia varies from pale to quite deep blue; I guess we were lucky with ours. The Fuchsia had many more flowers last year, when it also started from "below ground". There has been less sun this summer, and it grows under a Hazel-tree, which has had a much denser canopy this year, so lack of light could possibly explain the few flowers? I really like your F. m. molinae, never heard of that one.
We had a few Amorpha nana's, and would have been happy to give you one, but alas, we gave away the last one last year. It thrives here, despite our un-prairielike conditions. It gets a little bigger each year, and is now about 40 cm (16") high and and about as wide. It is a very light and airy little bush.
Knud
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I second David, Paddy, and also liked the Potentilla, and the colchicum, and the.... A large, 25 year old 'thicket' of Kniphofia in our garden was reduced by the frost last winter to 5 small flowers this summer.
Two very nice bunches, Graham, I particularly liked the Allium. Our A. huphensis are pink, I don't think I have seen such white ones before.
Knud
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Very nice Paddy. I especially liked the Potentilla, how tall is it please?
Hi David, the potentilla is just a foot tall and is a good one. We saw it in a garden last year and bought a plant this spring which, very obligingly, divided into five smaller plants immediately so we have a nice clump now. It is a good one. In the same garden, where we saw this one, we saw another potentilla which was very similar, a good big double flower, but I never got the name for it. I think you might find it and the one above listed in Cotswold Plants' (Bob Brown) catalogue. It might be 'Emily' - just had a look at the catalogue.
Paddy
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A few more from the garden this week. Paddy
Hydrangea 'Quadricolur'
Eupatorium maculatum atropurpureum
Aconitum 'Royal Flush'
Actaea pachypoda
Sedum 'Matrona'
Roscoea cautleoides
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Very nice Paddy. I especially liked the Potentilla, how tall is it please?
Hi David, the potentilla is just a foot tall and is a good one. We saw it in a garden last year and bought a plant this spring which, very obligingly, divided into five smaller plants immediately so we have a nice clump now. It is a good one. In the same garden, where we saw this one, we saw another potentilla which was very similar, a good big double flower, but I never got the name for it. I think you might find it and the one above listed in Cotswold Plants' (Bob Brown) catalogue. It might be 'Emily' - just had a look at the catalogue.
Paddy
Many thanks Paddy.
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Interesting to see Fuchsia magellanica looking so well in Norway 8) In my garden it suffered last winter, only recovering to the point of flowering by midsummer or later rather than early spring.
A fine selection Paddy. Last night's wind and rain made it distinctly autumnal here. I wonder what we'll have left after storm Katia has passed through.
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Ashley,
We certainly won't have any apples left on trees; they are dropping continuously now in the light winds we had yesterday and today.
Paddy
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Latana red hot.
Eucryphia x intermedia, Rostrevor' before the storm defoliates it
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WOW!!! LOVE those hot colours, Michael. 8)
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WOW!!! LOVE those hot colours, Michael. 8)
Those hot colours remind me autumn and winter soon. :( I like more green and cool colours.
Athyrium vidalii
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The last phloxes flowers
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First flowers of New Zeland delphiniums
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Harvest. :)
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The hot colours remind me of summer, Olga (the hot summer we never had this year :()
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Olga, you're a lady after my own heart - lots and lots of garlic. I lifted some late garlic only yesterday, one called "Elephant Garlic" where the individual cloves are as big as most other garlic bulbs. It is good roasted with mixed vegetables.
Paddy
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Dianthus superbus subsp. longicalycinus, a clone from Taiwan
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The hot colours remind me of summer, Olga (the hot summer we never had this year :()
Martin, we had a hot and dry summer again. May be that's why I dont like hot colours now.
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Paddy :)
We lifted all garlic before the rains we enjoy now. We have only a few kinds, one must be planted in autumn and other in spring.
Some onions continuing talking about harvest. :)
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Scilla peruviana is just in flower here. They were grown from BC seed labelled good dark blue. At least one is flowering white.
johnw
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Great vegetable garden, Olga.
We plant all our garlic in autumn and harvest in July. For the last two years we have planted onion sets in autumn and they have been disasterous - not drying well, not storing and most rotting; a waste of time.
Paddy
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Three reliable late bloomers here, and which do well whatever the weather throws at them. Asters, colchicum, and rudbeckias, here represented by one of my favourites of the species, Rudbeckia subtomentosa. This year it stands 170 cm (5'8") tall, a very gracious Rudbeckia. The seed for this plant came from Gardens North about ten years ago, so it is certainly a long-lived perennial in our garden and climate.
Knud
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These flowers are at my front door where I try to have a few flowers
as a welcome all year long.
Two of them are unexpected, though. I grew a plant of Campanula
primulifolia about 20 years ago in the back yard and haven't had it
since.
The gentian is also a mystery. The only nearby gentian label is for a seed
exchange G pannonica, and it is certainly not that. The leaves seem
too narrow for it to be septemfida, but perhaps they vary.
Crocus banaticus is one of my few crocus successes. I think perhaps
the solid tangle of plants keeps its bulb protected from digging rodents.
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This year it stands 170 cm (5'8") tall, a very gracious Rudbeckia.
Wow! That must be glorious in the garden... and it's a great photo. 8)
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Diane, I have a feeling that visitors will always enjoy a walk to your door, even without all these super plants ;)
I'm not sure what the gentian is... but the close-up is a super shot.... they are such pretty flowers, just asking to be made into a painting to keep forever!
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Epimedium membranaceum at sunset....
Surprisingly, but it continues to blossom.
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You have to be quick to follow this thread!
Knud, if you want a piece of molinae mail me your address!
Ashley, the F m riccartoni is quite hardy here but freezes down to the soil in harsh winters. I know however of gardens with huge shrubs of fuchsia that never freeze.
Last winter I lost several other fuchsias that had been hardy for several years :(
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Knud, if you want a piece of molinae mail me your address!
Thank you, Trond, very kind. I will send you an email.
Knud
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For hot colours lovers. :)
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(http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7841.0;attach=312461;image)
The gentian is also a mystery. The only nearby gentian label is for a seed
exchange G pannonica, and it is certainly not that. The leaves seem
too narrow for it to be septemfida, but perhaps they vary.
Leaves at three in whorls and hexamerous flowers suggest a hybrid between
Gentiana paradoxa and Gentiana septemfida.
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This year Nesocodon mauritianus started with a bunch of flowers not until the end of August/beginning of September.
Gerd
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How attractive, well worth waiting for Gerd :)
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What beautiful bells, it awakens my greed. I guess it is not hardy in my northern climate.
Ulla
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This year Nesocodon mauritianus started with a bunch of flowers not until the end of August/beginning of September.
Gerd
I didn't know anything about this lovely plant so I went searching the internet.... this is very interesting : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1618895/ .... the plant has coloured nectar! :o 8) 8)
Edit: found a photo showing the nectar.... http://www.biopix.com/photo.asp?photoid=65201&photo=nesocodon-mauritianus
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Gerd, wonderful photos of beautiful plants!
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This year Nesocodon mauritianus started with a bunch of flowers not until the end of August/beginning of September.
I didn't know anything about this lovely plant so I went searching the internet.... this is very interesting : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1618895/ .... the plant has coloured nectar! :o 8) 8)
Edit: found a photo showing the nectar.... http://www.biopix.com/photo.asp?photoid=65201&photo=nesocodon-mauritianus
I thought this 'rang a bell' (pardon the pun) and found a pic I took when Mark Smyth took us to Glasnevin Botanics in April this year - this was probably in a glasshouse, though
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cheers
fermi
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Thanks for kind remarks!
Yes, it's an exciting indoor plant but it causes horror for orderly people because it distributes its ruddling nectar all around.
Gerd
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Аutumn mood...
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What a super little study - so simple and lovely!
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Windfalls. Paddy
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Chestnuts. Paddy
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Аutumn mood...
Natalia,
do you know the name of the Berberis species ?
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Onion,
No, I do not know, but if you really need - ask .... photographed in the garden of my friends :)
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Natalia,
not so important. But I like Berberis when they have a lot of berries for the birds.
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Maybe I can help you with the Berberis...It should be Berberis koreana (orange berries), or more probably the 'Red Tears' Cv/selection (red berries). A true beauty indeed! But a prickly beauty too! >:(
Pictures of B. koreana taken at the Aubonne arboretum in Switzerland (between Geneva and Lausanne)
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Coucou Zeph,
nice to read you on th SRGC forum ! good to get news when we're living 20 km away each other ;D
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Hello Bulbi! You know, I'm mainly learning and lurking, here....and this is the place where I first met our friend "Biodiversite"! The world gets tinier and tinier every day, but the paths are longer and longer to reach one another! ;D
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At last we saw the sun after too many rainy and windy days. The autumn flowers clearly don't like this kind of weather!
Crocus banaticus
Crocus speciousus in front of a colchicum autumnale hybrid
Colchicum speciosum Album in rather poor condition, dirty and rumpled
Poul
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Maybe I can help you with the Berberis...It should be Berberis koreana (orange berries), or more probably the 'Red Tears' Cv/selection (red berries). A true beauty indeed! But a prickly beauty too! >:(
Pictures of B. koreana taken at the Aubonne arboretum in Switzerland (between Geneva and Lausanne)
Zephirine,
my first thought was B. koreana, too ;). As you record a beauty, but a prickly one. We had have a cultivar 'Rubin' of B. koreana with a red/orange-red autumn foliage, in the nursery I work. But we "lost" the plants. The workers hate them because of the prickly caracter.
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Corn marigolds growing in a field of barley near Glenhead Farm, between Dunblane and Doune, Perthshire.
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Hi
Second flowering for the corydalis cashmeriana. But what a disappointment!
First pic showing the bright pure blue colour from may, second pic showing the flowers which have recently opened on the same plant as before...
Amazing change isn't it? What is involved in such a difference? I first thought that the temperatures had an influence on the colour, but it isn't warmer now than last may.
Light intensity perhaps?
I noticed the same with the blue meconopsis, which turn to a fade bluish pink at the end of flowering, as if the plants were "tired" of producing those great blues of the beginning.
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Philippe, magnificent specimens!
Corydalis especially with purple flowers. :)
After a dry summer in our gardens many plants bloom a second time.
Photos from the garden of my friend
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Back to the forum after a holiday and very busy September
Just to confirm Natalia's words: second flowering of a dianthus and Phlox
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Sorry, the dianthus picture is blurred, will try again. Any ideas of what it is? (Grown from seed as D.freynii which it is not)
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In flower here now:
Sternbergia greuteriana
Iris 'Eco Little Bluebird' (flowering out of season)
Saxifraga 'Sugar Plum Fairy'
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Hi All
One of my brief visits to SRGC during Non-SNOWDROP season. ;D
Work is being very demanding this year so my garden has taken a back seat. But I have a day at home (and to myself) today so a few quick pictures and random shots from maison de kentgardener.
I'll be back when the little green and white beauties start appearing. ;)
John
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John, what is the hellebore-like plant in the middle of picture 4?
WimB, I like the 'Sugar Plum Fairy' :D
Here some plants have started the autumn colouring process; Actinidia kolomikta is one with nice fall colour.
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An unknown berberis from China (Chadwell seed).
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John the last Hederefolium is just incredible.See you later...Did Samantha flower for you mine didn't :'(?
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Hi Trond
The plant you mention in picture 4 is Begonia luxurians - a couple of my friends have reported this as hardy(ish) in their gardens so I am trialling it in this little part of Kent.
Davey m8 - your lovely 'Galanthus 'Samantha'' bulbs flowered beautifully for me. Hopefully she/they will reappear in early 2012. 8)
John
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Hi Trond
The plant you mention in picture 4 is Begonia luxurians - a couple of my friends have reported this as hardy(ish) in their gardens so I am trialling it in this little part of Kent.
Davey m8 - your lovely 'Galanthus 'Samantha'' bulbs flowered beautifully for me. Hopefully she/they will reappear in early 2012. 8)
John
Thanks, John. I would never guess a Begonia ??? However I have had hardy begonias in my garden for years (I bought corms from Heronwood) however they have all disappeared now. It is not the weather but they were swamped by greedy stronggrowing neighbours.
Does Begonia luxurians have a corm?
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I have only had this plant since April so I am not that familiar with it's growth yet. It was given to me as a rooted cutting.
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Now flowering in our garden:
Begonia grandis, rose and white form
Begonia sutherlandii from Lesotho is not hardy, the tubers are kept dry in winter
Hosta Tortilla Chips started very late to flower
The Ipomoea flowers last only for one day, but each new morning enjoys us with new flowers.
Pelargonium quercetorum is another hardy species from Southeastern Turkey.
Stenbergia lutea and Taraxacum pseudoroseum love the unusual warm late summer weather
we have.
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Davey m8 - your lovely 'Galanthus 'Samantha'' bulbs flowered beautifully for me. Hopefully she/they will reappear in early 2012. 8)
John
Cheers for that John you have made my day. ;D
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Davey / John - Has a shot of Samantha ever been posted?
johnw
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The Nesocodon mauritianus is quite something! On the subject of coloured nectar, I found this the other day.............
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44793369@N00/305449262/in/faves-35724365@N05/
One of the highlights of the year for me is when my Tibouchina urvilleana bursts into bloom. It will have to move into the consrvatory soon, but should be in bloom until mid to late November.
And can there be a better annual than Nicotiana sylvestris?
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Davey / John - Has a shot of Samantha ever been posted?
johnw
John when i first found and lifted the clump i did but it was a rubbish picture. My plants didn't flower last spring so i couldn't take a pic,i think Johns is the only ones to flower.I hope we will get a pic this spring,she now is in a a few gardens so hopefully she will be on the galanthus thread early next year.
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John of Kent - loooooovely scollies :D
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Lovely pictures from everyone!
I like especially John’s cyclamens with very decorative leaves.
Yesterday autumn leaves.
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Good luck to each of you! ;)
First blooms of Reineckia carnea, the chinese lily-of-the-valley!
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Lovely pictures from everyone!
I like especially John’s cyclamens with very decorative leaves.
Yesterday autumn leaves.
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Lovely mixture of leaves and shades of colour Olga
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Still waiting on a couple of my Tricyrtis, but these are the ones so far.
T.formosana
"Taiwan Adbane"
T.hirta
"Harlequin"
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Very nice Meanie, i'm starting to like these now.
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found this little one flowering this morning Delosperma Floribunda 'Stardust'
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John of Kent - loooooovely scollies :D
Thanks Anne - they really are my favourite fern - where else do you get such variation of form. 8)
Many are back ups for the National Collection of Scollies.
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Hi Anne,
a few more quick pics from today. 8)
The pics never do them justice - they look so much better in the flesh. If you ever find yourself in my part of Kent feel free to pop in.
John
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John of Kent - loooooovely scollies :D
Thanks Anne - they really are my favourite fern - where else do you get such variation of form. 8)
Ah - I would probably say from polypodies, which are my favourites! I'd love to see your ferns, but unfortunately rarely get that far south.
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John of Kent - loooooovely scollies :D
Thanks Anne - they really are my favourite fern - where else do you get such variation of form. 8)
Many are back ups for the National Collection of Scollies.
John, do you grow those "scollies" from spores?
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I have grown from spore before (using 'the Wright way to grow from spore' ;) )
But these named forms I always increase from division or leaf base cuttings.
Except for Kay's Lacerated that often comes true from spore.
John
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I have grown from spore before (using 'the Wright way to grow from spore' ;) )
But these named forms I always increase from division or leaf base cuttings.
Except for Kay's Lacerated that often comes true from spore.
John
OK, thanks.
I have grown some ferns from spores and division but never tried leaf base cuttings. How do you do that? Does it work from all ferns?
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Leaves are turnig yellow and red but ..........Spring is in the air... ;D
Ranunculus crenatus (ssp autumnale ;D)
Caltha scaposa (ssp autumnale ;D)
Primula watsonii (ssp autumnale ;D)
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A very good photo of a beautiful primula, Kris.
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I have grown from spore before (using 'the Wright way to grow from spore' ;) )
But these named forms I always increase from division or leaf base cuttings.
Except for Kay's Lacerated that often comes true from spore.
John
OK, thanks.
I have grown some ferns from spores and division but never tried leaf base cuttings. How do you do that? Does it work from all ferns?
The leaf base cuttings I read about in an old book and didn't believe it could work! The idea is to dig up the scollie, give it a wash, peel off the old leaf base where they are attached to the stem, plant these UPSIDE DOWN in damp sterilised silver sand, place in a bag and wait for small plantlets and roots to form on the bit sticking above the sand! I have found it works a treat and is the best method for increasing these rare Asplenium scolopendrium forms.
I've never tried it with any other ferns.
Regards
John
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I have grown from spore before (using 'the Wright way to grow from spore' ;) )
But these named forms I always increase from division or leaf base cuttings.
Except for Kay's Lacerated that often comes true from spore.
John
OK, thanks.
I have grown some ferns from spores and division but never tried leaf base cuttings. How do you do that? Does it work from all ferns?
The leaf base cuttings I read about in an old book and didn't believe it could work! The idea is to dig up the scollie, give it a wash, peel off the old leaf base where they are attached to the stem, plant these UPSIDE DOWN in damp sterilised silver sand, place in a bag and wait for small plantlets and roots to form on the bit sticking above the sand! I have found it works a treat and is the best method for increasing these rare Asplenium scolopendrium forms.
I've never tried it with any other ferns.
Regards
John
I learn something new every day here! I will try this method. However I have only quite common specimens of scollies but they are fine to learn the technique. Maybe it works on other Aspleniums as well.
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As far as I know this is unique to Asplenium scolopendrium.
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As far as I know this is unique to Asplenium scolopendrium.
Strange . . .
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Very...