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Title: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Arda Takan on September 01, 2011, 02:05:03 PM
I gathered this seed pod from wild. It has a pinkish colour. Seeds are black. They look like muscari-hycantilla-allium seeds.
Has anyone any idea about what they may be?
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: PeterT on September 01, 2011, 08:16:41 PM
Can you show a sharper picture Arda, or else describe the seeds and the capsule? does the capsule have three compartments , are the seeds thin or fat / round?
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: PeterT on September 01, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
How tall is the stem and how big is the seed pod? is the stem branched?
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Arda Takan on September 01, 2011, 09:48:28 PM
capsule has 2 parts. seeds are thin.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: PeterT on September 01, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
then it is not a bulbous Iris, it is not Hyacinthacea or Allium, could it be Tulip or Fritillaria? with a small bulb which did not manage a third chamber?
You should sow the seeds in your garden Arda, and push a long lable very deep, so that it stays untill the seeds flower and the writing will be protected in the soil.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Arda Takan on September 01, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Do tulips or frits have black seeds? I thought their seeds are flat and scale-like
This plant's seed pod and capsules( I don't know the exact word) I mean the whole breeding thing looks like hyacinthella's
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Arda Takan on September 01, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
Or maybe this plant is not bulbous right? I didn't dig it. It was just an assumption
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 01, 2011, 10:37:33 PM
A much smaller, sharper picture would help. Can you manipulate it to achieve that? Frits and tulips are roughly triangular in shape, flat, and a tan/light brown colour.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 02, 2011, 02:00:12 AM
Reduced in size and with attempts at sharpening, I believe I recognize the individual dried floret shape as an Allium, looking like a drying Allium inflorescence with the pinkish remains of flowers on thin pedicels, and one or two black seed in evidence.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: PeterT on September 02, 2011, 07:18:49 AM
Yes Mark I think you are right, I had misinterpreted the picture to be a crushed capsule with the side partially missing but I believe it is actually an umbell. Are some allium seeds flattish? or just angular?
Some tulips can have black seeds, It was because you said te seeds were flat Arda, that I was trying to think of bulbs with flat seeds, not spherical.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: Arda Takan on September 02, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
Thank you all for help
Peter, I said I thought tulips have flat seeds I didn't mean the this unknown plant's seeds are flat. They are thin. I'll take a photo of seeds after I remove capsules.
Title: Re: Unknown bulbous plant's seed pods&seeds
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 03, 2011, 03:13:51 PM
Yes Mark I think you are right, I had misinterpreted the picture to be a crushed capsule with the side partially missing but I believe it is actually an umbell. Are some allium seeds flattish? or just angular?
Some tulips can have black seeds, It was because you said te seeds were flat Arda, that I was trying to think of bulbs with flat seeds, not spherical.

Alliums can have seeds of various shapes. The Allium head shown is probably in the Codonoprasum section (such as A. flavum) and they have flattish angular seeds, a trifle thicker on one side than the other, like a thin angular crescent.  Seed of a species like A. thunbergii is nearly totally flat, unusual for the genus. Seed of an Allium section like Melanocrommyum are typically like hard rounded pellets.
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