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Title: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Kasun A on August 08, 2011, 01:27:12 PM: Today afternoon suprise to see Colchicum Bizanthum Album in my garden :) is this normal to bloom in this time or is it early?

hier in south france we having for almost a week of AUTUMN weather with rain ,,and lots of plants are flowering again and big time MUSHROOMS.

kasun

colchium byzantium Album.jpg
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edit by maggi : I have resized Kasun's pictures for him... click on them to enlarge.....
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: PeterT on August 09, 2011, 09:53:25 PM: Very beautifull Kasun, How long have you had this Colchicum?
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Kasun A on August 11, 2011, 06:41:21 PM: since 2-3 years time but last year they bloomed in september,
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: mark smyth on August 11, 2011, 08:20:03 PM: my Colchicums that are flowering now are 5 weeks early! They flowered at the end of August last year and this year they started at the end of July
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: xthomasx on August 13, 2011, 05:05:37 PM: These are some preemie Colchicum autumnale. The first of a few thousand that grow all around here :)
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 14, 2011, 09:06:39 AM: Hello Mark, nice pics - as always ;D
Hello Thomas, good landscape for long walks :D

Hello folks, can you tell me the differences between AUTUMN QUEEN and C speciosum ssp bornmuellerii please. My types look like the pictures show (yesterday). But in the book of Rod Leeds Csb is checkered and has brownish/purple anthers (and never yellowish) ???
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: PeterT on August 14, 2011, 09:42:22 AM: What do the leaves of your 'Automne Queen' look like Hagen? and do you know it's parentage?
as to C ssp bournmulleri - either the book is wrong or you have the wrong plant.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: mark smyth on August 14, 2011, 06:49:21 PM: Most of these flowers are not standing this evening. Very heavy rain flattened them this afternoon. Why would they flower so early?
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 14, 2011, 10:25:23 PM: Good pic Mark, is it AUTUMN QUEEN? PRINCESS ASTRID??
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: mark smyth on August 14, 2011, 10:29:57 PM: Hagen it has no name but could be named. I will post a photo from last year soon
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: mark smyth on August 14, 2011, 10:59:18 PM: Hagen two photos here http://marksgardenplants.com/colchicum%20tesselated%20hybrid.html (http://marksgardenplants.com/colchicum%20tesselated%20hybrid.html)
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: hadacekf on August 17, 2011, 07:20:14 PM: Hagen' s Colchicum 'Teufelskralle' flowers also so early.

Colchicum tenorii flowers also one month in former times, but it is the true plant.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 18, 2011, 05:59:34 AM: Very very early Franz. Here TEUFELSKRALLE isn`t out of the ground. I like to see it increases well.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 18, 2011, 06:02:15 AM: Mark, why your tessellated flowers can`t be AUTUMN QUEEN. I cannot find differences. May be it is the time of flowering?
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: udo on August 21, 2011, 08:08:18 PM: Hello all,
my first realy Colchicum ( not Merendera ) this autumn,
a early C.variegatum. :P
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 23, 2011, 07:45:12 AM: Dirk, very beautiful!

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 23, 2011, 07:52:04 AM: 1. Unexpected Colchicum davisii flower.
2. Davisii a I do not agree upon the right way to show the flowers.

Maybe a hint that it would like a bigger pot

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: ArnoldT on August 23, 2011, 02:04:02 PM: Poul:

Maybe not a bigger pot. The flower buds on Colchicums are initiated from the base of the bulb. It could be that the bud "saw" the light from the drainage hole and took the shortest distance to the light.
Arnold
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Maggi Young on August 23, 2011, 03:44:42 PM: I agree, Arnold.
Colchicum do form their flower growths from side and base and so they often make this sort of determined "escape" from their pots. You've got to applaud their initiative!
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: ArnoldT on August 23, 2011, 05:58:22 PM: Obviously the phototropism is a stronger driver than the geotropism!
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: mark smyth on August 23, 2011, 06:47:07 PM: Quote from: Hagen Engelmann on August 18, 2011, 06:02:15 AM
Mark, why your tessellated flowers can`t be AUTUMN QUEEN. I cannot find differences. May be it is the time of flowering?

Hagen there is no reason it can not be Autumn Queen. Will I measure flowers?
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 24, 2011, 09:33:30 AM: Thank you Maggi and Arnold!
I let it stay in the pot. I am not that experienced with colchicum in pots, most of them are in the garden. I got two davisii bulbs last year and as I didn't know how hardy it is, one was potted and the other planted in the garden.

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: hadacekf on August 24, 2011, 10:17:38 AM: My poor plants must at present bear a temperature of 37° C.

Colchicum montanum
Colchicum byzantinum forma alba
Colchicum autumnale from Greece
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on August 24, 2011, 10:13:39 PM: Quote from: hadacekf on August 24, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
My poor plants must at present bear a temperature of 37° C.

Colchicum montanum
Colchicum byzantinum forma alba
Colchicum autumnale from Greece

They don't look poor to me Franz , very healthy and nice plants ...
Here in flower : C. autumnale 'Lysimachus' and Colchicum troodii .
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 25, 2011, 08:21:32 AM: Quote from: hadacekf on August 24, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
My poor plants must at present bear a temperature of 37° C.

Colchicum montanum
Colchicum byzantinum forma alba
Colchicum autumnale from Greece

And still they look immaculate Franz !! :o

I like "troodii" Kris ! :D
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on August 25, 2011, 05:58:30 PM: Quote from: Luc Gilgemyn on August 25, 2011, 08:21:32 AM
I like "troodii" Kris ! :D

Thanks Luc , I like it myself ... Grows in the same habitat as the very fine Cyclamen cyprium in the Troodos mountains in Cyprus .
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 26, 2011, 06:33:33 PM: The colchicum season starts outside with a lot of types this year.
AUTUMN QUEEN
GRACIA
HERBSTKUGEL
NANCY LINDSAY
C. speciosum
C. speciosum DOMBAI
C. x agrippinum
C. laetum
C. davisii
C. cilicicum PURPUREUM
C. byzantinum INNOCENCE
POSEIDON = JAROSLAVNA
DISRAELI ??
are blooming now. That is a lot early in August.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Arda Takan on August 28, 2011, 10:41:02 PM: Today I tried to hunt this colchicum but no luck :'(
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4114/p1040601.jpg)
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 09:23:50 AM: Hey Arda, your are looking for Colchicum bivonae???
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Arda Takan on August 29, 2011, 09:57:21 AM: I don't know its name Hagen, but I do know the plant in picture lives the place I looked. The taker of photo said it was end of august 2010 so yesterday I went to same place but couldnt find any colchicum.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:06:32 PM: A little bit more sun and the world is much more friendly
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:16:51 PM: Here is Colchicum variegatum. I got plants from different sources, you can see it exactly.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:19:43 PM: Colchicum x agrippinum with swollen and glowing filaments.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:23:34 PM: Colchicum davisii with pale antheres.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:25:14 PM: Always a pleasure: NANCY LINDSAY.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 29, 2011, 08:08:39 PM: Quote from: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
A little bit more sun and the world is much more friendly

A lovely view Hagen!

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Maggi Young on August 29, 2011, 08:16:36 PM: A pleasure to see your flowers and the garden in the sunshine, Hagen.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 08:52:15 PM: Hi Poul, what do you think, should I plant C davisii outside in the ground??? I saw, you have the plant in a pot.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 09:03:42 PM: Yes Maggi sunshine opens our hearts, lures the plants out of the ground and is good for fine pics too.
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Arda Takan on August 29, 2011, 10:13:45 PM: Great colchicums Hagen
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on August 30, 2011, 05:48:50 AM: Hi Arda, I would like to see fields/meadows full of colchicum, you have in turkey. I believe, turkey is a colchicum-wonder-land!
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: Arda Takan on August 30, 2011, 09:12:37 AM: So would I Hagen. But unfortunately according to a flora database there is only 1 colchicum species in the city I live. And as said before I tried to find it on sunday but I couldn't find a single flower...
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 30, 2011, 10:29:55 AM: Quote from: Hagen Engelmann on August 29, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
Hi Poul, what do you think, should I plant C davisii outside in the ground??? I saw, you have the plant in a pot.

Hi Hagen,

I have two C. davisii bulbs. One in pot is in flower now and one planted in a raised bed in the garden. There is no sign of the one in the garden yet, so I do not know if it has survived the last hard winter. If it has, I would say it is hardy, and I will plant the other bulb in the garden too. I will let you know when the one in the garden (hopefull) is in flower.

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicum 2011 August
Post by: pehe on August 30, 2011, 08:53:58 PM: Two of the smaller colchicum flowering today.

Colchicum cupani
Colchicum corsicum

Poul