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Specific Families and Genera => Cacti and Succulents => Topic started by: Peter II on July 30, 2011, 05:02:44 PM

Title: Talinum
Post by: Peter II on July 30, 2011, 05:02:44 PM

Talinum sediforme

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6217/ict00011.jpg)

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/538/ict0004.jpg)



Talinum calycinum

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3531/img0066rl.jpg)

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4702/img0069w.jpg)



Talinum spec. (parviflorum?)

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5383/ict0001.jpg)

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3644/ict0002.jpg)

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Ezeiza on July 30, 2011, 06:23:08 PM

Very interesting, Peter. So many variants in this genus.

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 30, 2011, 11:23:08 PM

I have T. okanaganense in a trough. It is just about invisible until it flowers then vanishes again soon after, though I've been able to get a little seed from it. It's cute and welcome to do its little thing when it wishes. :)

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Kovacs Pal on July 06, 2012, 03:01:25 PM

Hello Peter,

You have got very nice plants!

Can you (or anybody else) tell me what the difference is between T. calycinum and T. spinescens?
Thank you in advance

Pál

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Peter II on July 06, 2012, 05:04:31 PM

I'm sorry. But I have no idea.

If you can German:

T. calycinum Engelmann (in Wislizenus, Mem. Tour
North. Mex., 88, 1848). T: USA, Kansas 1 Oklahoma
(Wislizenus s.n. [MO]). - D: S und C USA (Missouri und
Nebraska, S-wärts bis Arkansas und Texas), im
wesentlichen W des Mississippi; sandige Böden. I:
Britton & Brown (1913: 37).
= Claytonia calycina (Engelmann) Kuntze (1891);
incl. Talinum teretifolium Torreg (1853) (nom. illeg.,
Art. 53.1).

[2] Aufrechte, mehrjährige Kräuter mit ziemlich
verdicktem Wustock und aufrechten Tr bis 3 - 10 cm
hoch; Blä fast stielrund, 2.5 - 7 cm x 1 - 2 mm Ø,
zugespitzt; Inf cymös mit Bra an jeder Gabelung;
Infstiel schlank, 6 - 23 cm; Ped schlank; Sep eiförmig
bis ± kreisrund, 4.5 - 5.5 x 5 - 6 mm, oft bis zur Frzeit
ausdauernd; Pet breit eiförmig, 10 - 15 x 5 - 9 mm, lila;
St 25 - 45; Na kopfig; Fr kugeligeiförmig, 6 - 7 x 4.5
mm Ø; Sa 1 - 1.1 mm, schwarz, glatt.


T. spinescens Torreg (US Expl. Exped., Phan., 17: 250,
1874). - D: SW Kanada (British Columbia), NW USA
(Washington, Oregon).

= Claytonia spinescens (Torreg) Kuntze (1891)
Phemeranthus spinescens (Torreg) Hershkovitz (1997).

[2] Mehrjährige Kräuter bis 30 cm mit ± holzigem
Caudex; Tr mit ausdauernden, verdornten Mittelrippen
alter Blä; Blä fast stielrund, linealisch, 1 - 3 cm x 1 - 2
mm Ø, stumpf, basal in einen kurzen Blastiel verjüngt;
Inf wenigblütig, cymös, Gabelungen mit Bra; Infstiel
schlank, 7 - 19 cm; Ped schlank; Sep kreisrund bis
eiförmig, 2.5 - 4 mm; Pet oval bis verkehrt eiförmig, 6 -
8 mm, rotpurpurn; St 20 - 30; Gr fadendünn, fast so lang
wie die Pet; Na fast kopfig; Fr eiförmig-kugelig, ± 5 x 4
mm Ø; Sa 1 mm, glatt oder am Rücken gerippt.

Aus dem Sukkulenten Lexikon Teil 2

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Lori S. on July 06, 2012, 05:18:50 PM

More info that might be helpful:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=242415802 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=242415802)
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=242415794 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=242415794)

Title: Re: Talinum
Post by: Kovacs Pal on July 06, 2012, 08:25:16 PM

Thank you for the answers. Both of them were useful.
Pali