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Title: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Knud on July 20, 2011, 10:05:03 PM
I have had a bright green, very dense cushion plant growing in a through for five years now, and this June it bloomed for the first time, six flowers in total. The first picture is a close-up showing the cushion and the flowers, the second picture shows its general form (the "big" green mound in the fromt between the two saxifrages).

Can anyone help me identify this cushion?

Thank you,
Knud
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: tonyg on July 21, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
My first thoughts led me to Sagina subulata but the foliage is not right.  Arenaria were next on the list, Arenaria norvegica perhaps?  :)
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: hadacekf on July 21, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
Perhaps it is Minuartia stellata.
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Maggi Young on July 21, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
Knud, I agree with Franz that it may  be Minuartia stellata... that fits better to my eyes with the very neat tight cushion.
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 21, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
A really nice cushion, even apart from the flowers. I've not seen it before.
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Knud on July 24, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
My first thoughts led me to Sagina subulata but the foliage is not right.  Arenaria were next on the list, Arenaria norvegica perhaps?  :)
Thanks, Tony, for your suggestion. I had been wondering about arenaria, but the cushion seems to dense and the leaves to "substantial". It would be nice if it was A. norvegica.

Knud
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Knud on July 24, 2011, 10:04:59 PM
Perhaps it is Minuartia stellata.

Thank you, Franz, I have checked all references I can find on Minuartia stellata, and I think you are right. The only detail that doesn't fit is the flower, mine seem more "stellar" in form than the pictures I have found of M. stellata on the internet, but I guess flower form can vary. M. sedoides has flowers shaped more like mine, but has no petals, and mine do.

Knud
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Great Moravian on July 25, 2011, 10:33:37 AM
Count stigmas.
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on July 25, 2011, 10:42:16 AM
This is what I grow as Minuartia caucasica...  :-\

Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Maggi Young on July 25, 2011, 10:58:43 AM
Count stigmas.

Sagina : stamens 4, 5, 8, or 10, arising from base of ovary; filaments distinct; staminodes absent

Minuartia : stamens 10 (8-10 in M. godfreyi), arising from hypanthium; filaments distinct; staminodes absent

Arenaria : stamens 10 (ca. 8 in A. livermorensis), arising from base of ovary; filaments distinct; staminodes absent
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: hadacekf on July 25, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
Luc,
Minuartia caucasica is not a accepted name.
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Knud on July 25, 2011, 08:05:46 PM
Count stigmas.

Sagina : stamens 4, 5, 8, or 10, arising from base of ovary; filaments distinct; staminodes absent
Minuartia : stamens 10 (8-10 in M. godfreyi), arising from hypanthium; filaments distinct; staminodes absent
Arenaria : stamens 10 (ca. 8 in A. livermorensis), arising from base of ovary; filaments distinct; staminodes absent

My goodness, Maggi, where do you find all this information? Thank you. And Great Moravian, thank you for your tip. The flowers are long gone, but a little manipulation of my picture revealed ten stamens, shown below. The new question is, from where do they arise? I must admit that we are now at a level of detail beyond my knowledge of botany, but I'm learning.

Luc, your plant looks very similar to mine, but flowers with slightly fuller and "rounder" petals?

Knud
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: johnw on July 25, 2011, 10:02:06 PM
My goodness, Maggi, where do you find all this information?

Knud  - I think she dabbles in the occult.  ;)

johnw
Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Maggi Young on July 25, 2011, 10:16:38 PM
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Knud  - I think she dabbles in the occult.  Wink


Don't listen to John, Knud.... you've been to my house... you know I have no broomstick  ;)
(which is probably why the place is such a mess! :-[  )

Looks like the stamens are connected to the base of the ovary in your photo.

 www.efloras.org             :)     


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Title: Re: Unknown cushion plant
Post by: Knud on July 26, 2011, 07:15:42 PM

Don't listen to John, Knud.... you've been to my house... you know I have no broomstick  ;)
(which is probably why the place is such a mess! :-[  )

Looks like the stamens are connected to the base of the ovary in your photo.

Absolutely Maggi, I won't listen to John. I saw no broomstick, but come to think of it, I saw no mess either.

Thank you for the link and help with ID, seems I have an Arenaria. Hopefully it will bloom again next year, I will check more thoroughly then.

Knud
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