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Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: daveyp1970 on June 02, 2011, 11:36:17 AM

Title: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: daveyp1970 on June 02, 2011, 11:36:17 AM
A few pics of the straight Dactlorhiza Incarnata(which is a very rare plant in these parts) and the others are of a dark purple form and of hybrids.
Title: Re: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: Panu on June 02, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Nice, but which ssp. ? The racemes seems dense and the leaves are broad and uniformly green, not like the ssp. incarnata or ssp. cruenta here.
Title: Re: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: daveyp1970 on June 02, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
Panu i will take more pics so you can have a look,i am no expert just love to see them.If you could i.d the ssp i would be very gratefull,i think the problem is there is fuschii and Dactylorhiza purpurella flowering making an id hard.
Title: Re: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: SteveC2 on June 02, 2011, 07:47:58 PM
Identifying these from photos is a nightmare but it's not that much easier in the field given the number of hybirds about.  For instance I found five of these yesterday, surrounded by southerns, hybrids and enough fuchsii to sink a battleship.  A man whose opinion I respect says ssp coccinea.  A man whose opinion I also respect says not.  Frankly I don't know what to think.
Title: Re: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: daveyp1970 on June 02, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Steve that looks like ssp coccinea but i am just a novice,Dactylorhiza's are a nightmare,me and FredG have scratched our heads loads of times looking at them in the field.I think the problem were i live, is that a lot of the nature reserves are ex colliery sites so the imported top soil comes from everywhere and anywhere so all of a sudden more than one sp pops up ,then hybridisation follows and head scratching begins.I hope this makes sense and might be wrong but its how i see it.
Title: Re: In habitat site...Dactylorhiza Incarnata
Post by: fredg on June 11, 2011, 09:17:47 PM
Nice site Dave.
I look forward to that trip next year.

I'm beginning to like the two terms Dactylorhiza sp. and Dactylorhiza hybrid.
They do save a lot of head scratching  ;D
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