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Title: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Philip MacDougall on May 28, 2011, 07:32:03 PM
Have been travelling in eastern Turkey these last 2 weeks. Somewhat tired of kabops and white bread. Difficult internet at times. Had to share this, near Ayder today, many were flagging but there were still some good ones out. Will try to post photos when I return. Philip
Epigaea gaultheroides
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on May 28, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
Ohh! SWOON! SWOON! This is one of my all time FAVOURITE plants.
We were very happy to be awarded a First Class Certificate for it some years ago.
A plant of incredible beauty and lovely scent..... I never thought to see it in such quantities from the wild.... thank you, Philip.... you make an old dear VERY happy!  :-* :-* ( even if the pix are a little wide!)
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: johnw on May 28, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
Ohh! SWOON! SWOON! This is one of my all time FAVOURITE plants.
We were very happy to be awarded a First Class Certificate for it some years ago.
A plant of incredible beauty and lovely scent..... I never thought to see it in such quantities from the wild.... thank you, Philip.... you make an old dear VERY happy!  :-* :-* ( even if the pix are a little wide!)

Pass the smelling salts Maggi!!!

Ken for johnw
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Brian Ellis on May 29, 2011, 09:28:00 AM
What a wonderful site, someone pick Maggi up off the floor please ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: arillady on May 29, 2011, 10:26:51 AM
Wonderful about this site is that you see plants that you have never seen or heard of before.
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Otto Fauser on May 30, 2011, 07:58:33 AM
Like Maggi ( hope I'm not an old dear ) I swooned at the expanse of the Epigaea.I used to grow years ago -it was only the size of a dinnerplate , but 2 days of summerheat ( 43 Celcius ) was the end of it .
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Philip MacDougall on June 01, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Alright Maggi, This one is something I think even you haven't grown.
Phelyphaea tournefortii. Phelypaea tournefortii
Starting the long flight home tomorrow, back to the land of Starbucks and reliable internet.
Philip
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Philip MacDougall on June 01, 2011, 09:17:22 PM
Crapped out on the spelling. Phelypaea tournefortii
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 01, 2011, 10:07:09 PM
I don't think too many folks have grown this very showy member of the Orobanchaceae ;)

I've only seen photos of it, mostly from Marijn van den Brink .......
http://photos.v-d-brink.eu/

The rich colour and velvet texture is just irresistible to me........I've got some Tanacetum parthenium in the garden... do you think the Phelypaea would like that as a host? :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Diane Clement on June 01, 2011, 11:05:29 PM
However, some of us have seen the rather similar looking Phelypaea coccinea in cultivation, a few years ago at Chesterfield show grown by Neil Hubbard Phelypaea coccinea growing on Centaurea (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/shows/results/shows2008/shows/chesterf/images/George_Young/sizedChesterfield_08_Class_113_Phelypaea_coccinea_growing_on_Centaurea_Neil_Hubbard_Certificate_of_Merit.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Brian Ellis on June 02, 2011, 08:32:42 AM
What an extraordinary thing, does it grow in huge numbers if there is a mass of host plants?
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 02, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
However, some of us have seen the rather similar looking Phelypaea coccinea in cultivation, a few years ago at Chesterfield show grown by Neil Hubbard Phelypaea coccinea growing on Centaurea (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/shows/results/shows2008/shows/chesterf/images/George_Young/sizedChesterfield_08_Class_113_Phelypaea_coccinea_growing_on_Centaurea_Neil_Hubbard_Certificate_of_Merit.jpg.html)

Well remembered, Diane... and a fine certificate of merit for Neil Hubbard's achievement in growing this lovely oddity.  Seems that tansey's are not its only host. 
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
OH MY GOD!!! This thread didn't appear in my Inbox so I had missed it altogether. When I die please lay me to rest in the middle of those stunning pink flowers. If it's by Friday that's OK. Not only smelling salts needed, but defibrillator as well please. Surely Philip, that sight will be one of the great highlights of your life. 8) 8) 8), and thanks Maggi and John for the rather casual remarks on the Arisaema thread, that pointed me in the right direction. ::)
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: johnw on June 06, 2011, 02:38:43 AM
Lesley - Good thing Philip's in medicine he can defibralte you though he probably buys cheap batteries at Canadian Tire.

johnw. 
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: art600 on June 06, 2011, 03:53:19 PM
Philip

I too was travelling in Estern Turkey at the same time as you.  Sadly did not see the magnificent Epigaea.

Did manage to get excellent brown bread  ;D

Would not ever long for a Starbucks coffee ::)

Hope to post some photos later this week.
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 06, 2011, 10:01:02 PM
Lesley - Good thing Philip's in medicine he can defibralte you though he probably buys cheap batteries at Canadian Tire. johnw.

He'd better use the one we have each Saturday at the market then. Can't rely on cheap batteries. ;D Happily, even with 8-10,000 people at our Farmers' Market each Saturday morning, I've not yet had to use it, though am trained to do so. Usually it's the occasional cut or ankle sprain, or last week, a wasp sting. 

My heart rate is gradually returning to normal and I've even been out to the young EE. repens and asiatica plants to say "Why can't you do that?"
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 06, 2011, 10:34:56 PM
Starbucks here is pretty good actually Arthur. :D
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on June 07, 2011, 07:53:19 PM
Crapped out on the spelling. Phelypaea tournefortii

the good memories come up again. We also saw him last year in Turkey Philip!
On our way to Bayburt ....
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 23, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
The outstanding plant Phelypaea boissieri has featured on a postage stamp.........

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Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 25, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
That's a very nice stamp. We have rugby players on our latest batch ???
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 25, 2011, 10:46:15 PM
That's a very nice stamp. We have rugby players on our latest batch ???
Crikey... those must be large stamps........
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Janis Ruksans on June 29, 2011, 07:52:57 AM
Another plant from Eastern Turkey with fantastic aroma - monocarpic Neotchihatchevia isatidea pictured at very end of May this spring between Kop Daģ gec. and Soģanli pass. Sorry, if in spelling is some mistake.
Janis
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Janis Ruksans on June 29, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
Another plant from Eastern Turkey with fantastic aroma - monocarpic Neotchihatchevia isatidea pictured at very end of May this spring between Kop Daģ gec. and Soģanli pass. Sorry, if in spelling is some mistake.
Janis
Sorry, forgot to add pictures
Janis
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 29, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
This rather  extraordinary plant, Neotchihatchewia isatidea  is a synonym of  Tchihatchewia isatidea edit : Tchihatchewia isatidea is a synonym of Neotchihatchewia isatidea

Paul Cumbleton has featured it in the Wisley Logs ....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Mar021299081464Log_2_of_2011.pdf
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 30, 2011, 05:10:25 AM
Like a coloured and hairy version of our Notothlaspi rosulatum. Same family of course.

Thanks Maggi, I had missed that Log altogether, at the time.
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Janis Ruksans on July 01, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
This rather  extraordinary plant, Neotchihatchewia isatidea  is a synonym of  Tchihatchewia isatidea

Paul Cumbleton has featured it in the Wisley Logs ....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Mar021299081464Log_2_of_2011.pdf

Maggi,
Correctly - Tchihatchewia isatidea is a synonym of Neotchihatchewia isatidea
Janis
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: arillady on July 01, 2011, 08:49:31 AM
Could someone please give the phonetic pronunciation of both these species?
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 01, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
Well as Michauxia tchihatcheffii is pronounced ker-hat-chee-ovii, I would think it is probably ker-hat-che-via.

I'm only posting this Pat in the hope someone will pick me up on my mis-pronunciation :D
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on July 01, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
This rather  extraordinary plant, Neotchihatchewia isatidea  is a synonym of  Tchihatchewia isatidea

Paul Cumbleton has featured it in the Wisley Logs ....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Mar021299081464Log_2_of_2011.pdf

Maggi,
Correctly - Tchihatchewia isatidea is a synonym of Neotchihatchewia isatidea
Janis


Quite right Janis, I got it backwards! It is Tchihatchewia isatidea which is the accepted name
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Janis Ruksans on July 03, 2011, 08:44:13 PM
Well as Michauxia tchihatcheffii is pronounced ker-hat-chee-ovii, I would think it is probably ker-hat-che-via.

I'm only posting this Pat in the hope someone will pick me up on my mis-pronunciation :D
Tchi-ka-tche-vi-i (i - pronounced as i, not ai)
Janis
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 03, 2011, 08:45:21 PM
Well as Michauxia tchihatcheffii is pronounced ker-hat-chee-ovii, I would think it is probably ker-hat-che-via.

I'm only posting this Pat in the hope someone will pick me up on my mis-pronunciation :D
Tchi-ka-tche-vi-i (i - pronounced as i, not ai)
Janis

Of course, what a silly mistake to make, thanks Janis.
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: arillady on July 03, 2011, 11:30:27 PM
Thanks Janis
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 04, 2011, 06:44:19 AM
Not a name to be sneezed at!
Title: Re: Eastern Turkey
Post by: arillady on July 04, 2011, 08:14:31 AM
Or remember easily ::)
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