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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Maren on May 23, 2011, 11:18:56 PM
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Hi,
did anyone see the Laurent Perrier show garden at the Chelsea Flower Show? it had a superb carnation plant, a species, deep red and tall, all alone in the middle of a dry, sandy patch. Alan Titchmarsh mentioned its name tonight on the telly, but I didn't have a pencil and paper at hand. If anyone catches the name, please please reply.
It was also nice to hear that one of the presenters thought the best display of all was by the Alpine Garden Society. Music to my ears. ;D ;D ;D
I won't be going this year. I usually support the Orchid Society of Great Britain with hardy plants such as cypripediums and dactylorhizas, but due to the hot spell in April none of my plants made it to the show. That somewhat reduced my motivation to go. Also, sometimes I think one sees more on the telly than in person because of the crowds, even on a members' day.
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I was impressed by the Dianthus also. Fortunately I had recorded the programme in case I missed it, so was able to rewind and check the name: Dianthus carthusianorum
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Terrific, Peter, I knew I could rely on you. Many thanks. Now the challenge is to find out where to get it from. ;D ;D ;D
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Ian wasn't down to Chelsea for the Joint Rock meeting yesterday and with the flight disruption because of the Volcano dust clouds, that's just as well... he would not have got home. BA pulled all the Aberdeen bound flights from yesterday afternoon so they didn't have any planes stranded here by the dust. They are always quick to pull north bound flights in any case... it is VERY irritating. Wonder if the other Scots headed to Chelsea yesterday got home... haven't heard yet. ???
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Hi Maggi, thanks for asking; the Edinburgh crew got back OK - a bit late and via Glasgow! The Edinburgh flight was cancelled by the time we got to Luton but we were eventually offered the last flight back to Glasgow, with our cars at Edinburgh airport. I finally got home about 1.30 - totally wiped out but happy! haven't heard about Sandy who went from London City.
Great day out though. Some fantastic gardens and stands in the Great Pavilion. Just checked the rhs website for the awards. Kevock got a Silver-gilt flora and AGS got gold. Fabulous news well done to all. I will upload some photos when I've had a chance to get wake up properly.....
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Glad you got home eventually, David.
Kevock got a Silver-gilt flora and AGS got gold. Fabulous news well done to all.
Well done indeed.
Ian said he heard the AGS mentioned last night as being a super display and it is great that Kevock has done so well on their first venture to Chelsea!
The SRGC Gang will be working with Kevock for this years' display at Gardening Scotland at the beginning of June.
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The dianthus carthusianorum on Google seem to be pink, the one on TV appeared bright red.
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I noticed that, David, I really would like the red one rather than the pink.
A very generous person from the South of France already offered cuttings and seed!!! What a wonderful forum this is, and the people on it. :D :D :D
Would anyone going to the show please ask at the Laurent Perrier stand for a plant and supplier list ? that would be terrific.
I knew I should have gone but it's too late now. :'(
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I want it also but only the red one
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Hope Alan Titchmarsh didn't mean dianthus caryophyllus (carnation).
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Some images of the AGS gold medal exhibit. I thought this was a superb display of rock garden plants in a 'natural' setting. Some excellent rock work which in no way detracted from the excellent plantings and attention to detail in the crevices and other nooks and crannies (yes, I know the rocks are made of polystyrene or similar, but very effective nonetheless). Hearty congratulations to Ray Drew, Tim Lever and others (sorry for not having all the names of those involved) who worked so hard to achieve such a high standard and to provide such an advert for rock gardening. This was Ray's first time as team leader- so particularly well done.
The little Japanese Scutellaria laeteviolacea took my eye in the woodland part of the planting. There was also a wonderful Spiranthes sinensis in there too (sorry no pic of this - I find them particularly difficult to get in focus with a point-and-click camera.
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Lovely pictures. :) :) :)
Regarding the Dianthus carthusianorum, it's a conspiracy. I googled the Laurent Perrier garden, which has a plant list and a replica small garden design you can try for yourself AND you can buy the plants online, how about that for making the most of a captive audience. But the Dianthus is nowhere to be found. :'(
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And many congratulations to Stella and David Rankin of Kevock for their Silver-Gilt medal on their first occasion. Well worth the hard work and worry put into their display. Here are some pics.
Some really outstanding plants in their display - look out for the Arisaema propinquum, Stellera chamaejasme var chrysanthus and the arching, frothy displays of Saxifrages.
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David, what great pictures. The AGS Stand looks just lovely... what super colours... a rich looking collection of more "accessible" plants, it appears.......Ray,Tim and their Team have done a wonderful job. The display just reeks of fabulous summer, really! Can't havew been easy with the spring weather we had.... so much material must have been past ages ago... great to see such a profusion of colour.
The Rankins have done well to gain a Silver Gilt Award at their first Chelsea.... the logistics of managing all that in London from Lasswade is horrifying to me! The Stellera are almost as good as Darren's!Some great plants and a novel display.
Exciting to have these pictures to enjoy, thanks, David 8)
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Also in the Grand Pavilion, the Kirstenbosch Botanic Garden exhibit is magnificent! A two-sided representation of distinct South African landscapes. Side one with xeric plants, side 2 with proteas galore with a Table Mtn back drop.......
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I understand that the build of the AGS garden, designed by Ray, was lead again by John Humphries, so well done to John as well as to Ray and the others who will have helped to make this super display.
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If you google 'Dianthus carthusianorum' then click on the 'images for...' result, there are many pictures, mostly in pink, but some a deeper, redder colour. I suppose you would have to buy it in flower to check you had the colour form you wanted.
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Nice photo of the Scutellaria laetoviolacea on the AGS display....... that species was on the show bench in Aberdeen last Saturday, from Roma, I think.
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At the BBC's Chelsea website you can tell them what you would like to see more coverage of during the week (they mentioned this on last night's programme). I have already made my request for a better look at the AGS stand.
www.bbc.co.uk/chelsea/coverage/contact-us.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/chelsea/coverage/contact-us.shtml)
It does look like a good show this year.
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Regarding the Dianthus, are sure it was from the Laurent perrier garden? (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Shows-Events/RHS-Chelsea-Flower-Show/2011/Gardens/A-to-Z/Laurent-Perrier-Garden-by-Luciano-Giubbilei-Natu)? because in the Daily Telegraph garden (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Shows-Events/RHS-Chelsea-Flower-Show/2011/Gardens/A-to-Z/The-Daily-Telegraph-Garden) there is Dianthus cruentus (http://www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/perennials/dianthus-cruentus-/classid.2000010181/) which is very red and quite tall in it. Crocus.co.uk supplied the plants to both gardens by the way.
If it is then the only places I have found it, who have stock are
http://www.rareplants.de/shop/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=678&P_ID=8319
http://www.pflanzen-vielfalt.de/product.php?products_id=910105
World's End Gardeen Nursery (http://www.worldsendgarden.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=DIACRU) say they have it arriving soon
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..if it is cruentus that anybody wants, I've got some seed of that....
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Having not gone to the Chelsea Flower Show this year it is wonderful to see these images so quickly on the website. Stellera seems to be a Scottish speciality - I remember writing to Ron McBeath about it years ago, and eventually grew a single plant from seed which lasted three or four years but eventually gave up the ghost. It is very exciting to see a plant on Stella and David Rankin's display. It would be great if all the good comments about the AGS display could translate into really good programme on tv about alpines. Maybe this will come.
Re. Dianthus carthusianorum - I have grown this in the vivid red form and it is relatively short-lived but does set quite a bit of seed. However, under the same name at Kew and elsewhere I have seen a larger flowered pink plant with nothing of the same pizzazz! Another name I have come across is D. ferruginius which sounds as though it may be more accurate. Unfortunately I have lost the plant for some years and it would be great to get it back again. We used to sell it on the nursery so there may be growers who have kept it going.
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Just been watching a recording of today's daytime programme and they (Andy Sturgeon) refered to the dianthus as Dianthus cruentus.
When you google that name, the pictures look more like the plants on the TV!
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Sandy Leven isn't home fron Chelsea yet. He was flying to/from London City airpot. Told to go away and comer back today there are still no flights so he and another chap he met at the airport have hired a car and are driving back to Scotland. :-X
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Having not gone to the Chelsea Flower Show this year it is wonderful to see these images so quickly on the website. Stellera seems to be a Scottish speciality - I remember writing to Ron McBeath about it years ago, and eventually grew a single plant from seed which lasted three or four years but eventually gave up the ghost. It is very exciting to see a plant on Stella and David Rankin's display. It would be great if all the good comments about the AGS display could translate into really good programme on tv about alpines. Maybe this will come.
Stellera does pretty well in Lancashire, too, Tim :)... see Darren's plant here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6565.msg202576#msg202576
It would be great if all the good comments about the AGS display could translate into really good programme on tv about alpines. Maybe this will come.
We can but hope but knowing a little about the workings of the BBC, I would not hold my breath. :'(
There are hundreds of complaints over the years on the BBC website about Gardener's World, for instance, and they have had little impact.
Some of the finest programmes about alpines were presented years ago by the late Geoffrey Smith.... nowadays the BEEB seems to think that sort of thing too "specialised" ::)
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nowadays the BEEB seems to think that sort of thing too "specialised"
I wouldn't say that about all sections of the BBC; since discovering I can record 'The Beechgrove Garden' on our Sky box, I've become a regular gardening programme viewer again.
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Pics of John Amand's Gold exhibit .....
Lots of lilies, some frits, arisaemas, cypripediums, pleiones and much else in a mossy woodland setting. Never seen so many cyps!! wonderful!
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So pleased that Big John got Gold again. My connection is being awkward and I cannot enlarge the pictures so I'll give up and try tomorrow!
Thanks, David!!
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Tim & Maggi - my Stellera originally came from the Rankins and was bought from their stand on our visit to the Perth SRGC show about 6 years ago. It seems to be no trouble here. It is in a clay pot plunged in a frame. I've never repotted it - I just change the top few cm of compost every year. I do put a cover on the frame in winter but don't think it necessary and last year I think it let the plant get too dry in late winter/early spring and the flowers aborted - every single one!
John Forrest in Blackpool grew it very successfully for many years also.
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what about that new Anemone ?nemerosa/apennina x Anemone summer flowering specie Wild Swan with blue backed white flowers. I want it.
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http://www.rhs.org.uk/Shows-Events/RHS-Chelsea-Flower-Show/2011/Video/Plants
I just found this short interview with David Rankin at Chelsea.
Stupid thing! It is the 1:33 one 'A look around the Great Pavilion'.
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David
Thanks for digging it out I'd never have found it!
The M.punica are wonderfully sorrowful; red silken kerchiefs.
I only wished the TV coverage showed more - I shall watch tonight more in hope than expectation.
Frazer
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Well found, David. I've been trying in vain to find anything "useful" on the BBC website.
Christine Walkden was doing a piece on alpines, which I hoped would cover Kevock and the AGS, in yesterday's "RedButton" service but I never managed to catch that..... all I got on the loop was the show gardens... came into the room at one point to find the picture frozen on the Kevock stand but that was it. >:(
There is talk of choice of videos on the BBC's youtube chaneel too, but the Chelsea stuff there is from last year and takes forever to load and plays in fits and starts. It may be worth keeping an eye on that, in case they load some later.
Nice to see Colin Crosbie from Wisley on the RHS videos, though.
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There's a longer feature on the iPlayer from last night's programme (at 0.49.15 ), probably only viewable by UK residents:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011knh2/RHS_Chelsea_Flower_Show_2011_Episode_8/
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If I hear the words "design", "designer" or "concept" one more time......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There's a longer feature on the iPlayer from last night's programme (at 0.49.15 ), probably only viewable by UK residents:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011knh2/RHS_Chelsea_Flower_Show_2011_Episode_8/
Such fun: at about 12 minutes in Carol Klein speaks about our Corydalis 'Craigton Blue' .... of course she says it's from the forest floors of Szechuan and likes shade... when it's a hybrid (of two Chinese species) from Aberdeen where it like full sun... but apart from that...... :D ;)
Can anyone tell me which stand this was on?
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did anyone see the trough demo? A miracle happened. While they were chatting hyper-tufa put itself on the fish box. Sack the continuity person ;D
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Yes, Ian caught the trough piece and recorded it.... lord knows how long those troughs will survive...they wouldn't last six months here.
They had no hypertufa underneath the base, just the polystyrene fish box and no holes in the box to allow the hypertufa to key well to the box (unlike the method Ian uses for his cement ones) and no word of drainage holes in the bottom. Not a recipe for a long-life trough in our climate, for sure and I'm not convinced it would be hardy anywhere else, either!
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Yes, too many words and not enough plants. It's such a pity when the so called experts get things wrong, one wonders what else they don't know but talk about at length. I think it's the worst Chelsea coverage ever. And that darned Muzak .........:'( :'(
But on the bright side, thanks for spotting that the red Pink was indeed on the Daily Telegraph show garden. I'll have to wind back to find the correct name. :) :) :)
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Oh well they cannot please everybody,we have thought it has been one of the better years for coverage. We expect a low standard and filter out the rubbish such as the 'celebrities'. On the whole really enjoyed it.
I do however wonder first of all why the RHS feels the need to invite these people and secondly how they decide whom to invite. I googled one who grinned inanely into the camera and found it gave his occupation as a media celebrity?. Fortunately not being a member my subscription is not used to subsidise their jolly day out.
Sometimes its a relief to be a nobody
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Hi Tony,
maybe you can teach me how to filter out without having to watch it all and forgetting the trivia. I'd love to be able to do that. ;) ;) ;)
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I'll have to wind back to find the correct name.
Maren, it's definitely Dianthus cruentus, Andy Sturgeon's mentioned it twice now ;)
Also on the bright side, having recorded the programmes because I'm out at work/in the garden, it allows you to fast forward thorugh the waffle to the interesting bits. Just 'watched' two of the half hour daytime episodes in twenty minutes. ;D
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Hi Tony,
maybe you can teach me how to filter out without having to watch it all and forgetting the trivia. I'd love to be able to do that. ;) ;) ;)
Maren
record it and fast forward through the c..p. We do this for any programmes with adverts in them. It is amazing how short they become.
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There's a longer feature on the iPlayer from last night's programme (at 0.49.15 ), probably only viewable by UK residents:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011knh2/RHS_Chelsea_Flower_Show_2011_Episode_8/
Such fun: at about 12 minutes in Carol Klein speaks about our Corydalis 'Craigton Blue' .... of course she says it's from the forest floors of Szechuan and likes shade... when it's a hybrid (of two Chinese species) from Aberdeen where it like full sun... but apart from that...... :D ;)
Can anyone tell me which stand this was on?
Remember Maggi, full sun anywhere north of Yorkshire is shade. This is why I could grow trilliums and cypripediums, both shade loving, in full sun.
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I suppose so, Anthony.
It would be nice if the BBC and RHS could give a little more thought to the wider UK at times, though, wouldn't it? :-X
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Mary and I spent a very enjoyable day at the show on Tuesday last - 8a.m. to 7.30p.m. Boy, did I murder a few pints afterwards.
It was a good day out. We felt the gardens were not as great as previous years though we liked the Cleve West gardens, the Monaco Garden and the one by James Wong which was shoved into a terrible corner, overlooked by a large building, such a pity.
The displays in the pavilion were excellent and there were all sorts of displays outside to catch attention.
We went to Great Dixter (horrible place!) and Sissinghurst Castle on Sunday, Kew - full day on Monday(where we saw Michael Benedito's vegetable garden - that's Michael from Madeira, a forum member, who is there as a student) , Chelsea Flower Show on Tuesday and on Wednesday a walk around the centre of London and then the Chelsea Physic Garden in the afternoon.
Some photos of Michael Benedito's vegetable garden at Kew below.
An enjoyable few days. Paddy
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At lunch today, I caught the CHELSEA show on BBC. The first thing I saw was some character telling me how to use my "smart phone" to swipe a card of some flower or other which would then take me to a web site describing the plant. Of course, a smart phone is a prerequisite, of every gardener - whatever a smart phone is!!!. Then I had an instructional talk from a designer telling me how to be up to date with fashionable garden design. I think I uttered something like "get stuffed you posy ........ !" I think I would even prefer the X factor to this guff ! Than heavens for the Beechgrove Garden.
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what about that new Anemone ?nemerosa/apennina x Anemone summer flowering specie Wild Swan with blue backed white flowers. I want it.
Mark it was raised by Elizabeth MacGregor in the south of Scotland.... see this http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7334.msg203014#msg203014
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Tom,
you cast aspersions on the Smart Phone - I haven't even mastered recording a TV programme. Maybe it requires a recording machine??? Only just got my computer back and it's not all joy and celebrations. But at least I can read the Forum. :) :)
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Tom,
you cast aspersions on the Smart Phone - I haven't even mastered recording a TV programme. Maybe it requires a recording machine??? Only just got my computer back and it's not all joy and celebrations. But at least I can read the Forum. :) :)
Maren my TV( sky ) asks if you want to record the series so I did, but it only recorded the Chelsea programmes in the afternoon. I never thought about Chelsea being on BBC 1 and BBC 2, what a bumber I have missed all this viewing now.
Angie :)
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I suppose so, Anthony.
It would be nice if the BBC and RHS could give a little more thought to the wider UK at times, though, wouldn't it? :-X
I have heard rumours that the RHS might take on a garden in the Wirral to give them a foothold in the Northwest as well as doing "more" - whatever that means - in Scotland. I note that George Anderson (ex RBGE and now Beechgrove presenter) is standing for the RHS Board so together with Dougal Phillips (of New Hopetoun Garden Centre) they may encourage greater coverage of RHS activities in Scotland. RHS when it left the Home Counties and moved northwards certainly re-invigorated Harlow Carr at Harrogate.
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Maggi,
You asked....
Such fun: at about 12 minutes in Carol Klein speaks about our Corydalis 'Craigton Blue' .... of course she says it's from the forest floors of Szechuan and likes shade... when it's a hybrid (of two Chinese species) from Aberdeen where it like full sun... but apart from that......
Can anyone tell me which stand this was on?
We had it....The Alpine Garden Society that is... Tim Lever brought 6 plants from Aberconwy.....on Saturday morning they sold out in the first hour of the show and we could have sold hundreds through the day.
I pointed a couple of Deesiders in your direction....hope they find you.
Cheers, JH
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Hello John... congratulations on your part in another sucess for the Gold Medal. Your team will be delighted and I am sure Ray is even more so!
AGS Stand looked lovely. We thought that Craigton Blue was probably on the AGS stand, but the photos we have seen so far didn't show that aspect so we weren't sure.
The corydalis has appeared on one or two Chelsea stands in the past ( including the AGS one in previous years, I think)... it was nice to see it picked out for comment. :D
We can only sympathise with the exhaustion and anti-climax you must be feeling now, John.... perhaps you should join the exodus to Gardening Scotland next year and completely wear yourselves out!
Will be keeping a lookout for those Deesiders!
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Before I forget, did anyone see the interview with Diarmuid Gavin (he of the hanging garden at Chelsea Flower show). He spoke about a Brazilian vine, a beautiful climber with striking red flowers. I forgot to note down the name. Can anyone help? :)
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Maren, the presenter with the nasal whine.... ???Chapman, kept saying that plant lists for the gardens were on the (BBC?) website but I have yet to find them. :-\
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Yes, Maggi, I looked everywhere, turned over every stone, leaf and webpage, but nothing. Pity. One should suggest to the RHS to maintain a searchable plant list where you can input parameters like: seen where? presented by? date? colour? origin? tentative name? Wouldn't that be fun. ;) ;)
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Maren was it this Passiflora miniata (http://www.google.com/search?q=Passiflora+miniata&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en-GB___GB314)?
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Hi Neil,
thanks for your suggestion, it is beautiful but it wasn't the one I was after. Worth pursuing, though, the colour is phantastic.
The plant was of the same colour, but it appeared to have a string of flower buds, as you would find on a phalaenopsis orchid, whereas passiflora has distinct individual flowers.