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Title: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 05, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
My greatest love among alpines are plants of the Genus Androsace. Let me show you here some plants from my collection. Quite often they are difficult to keep alive, but what I can do - love is love.
The first batch of my pictures from this spring are following:
Androsace akbaitalensis
A. robusta breviscapa
A. rioxana, not the best picture, I am sorry, but new species from Spain
A. zambalensis
A. montana (Douglasia m.]
A. rigida
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 05, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
The second batch of my Androsaces includes:
Androsace ciliata
A. lehmanniana
A. mariae
A. mariae, another clone
A. longifolia, but I have some doubts
A. multiscapa
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Jozef Lemmens on May 05, 2011, 05:05:06 PM
Hi Zdenek, can you tell something about A. rioxana?
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 05, 2011, 06:25:41 PM
Hi Zdenek, can you tell something about A. rioxana?
I am sorry, Jozef, not too much. The plant is the last year and only sedling from seed of which origin I don't know. Winter it survived in my alpine house and it is planted outdoors since the early April. I was told that it is something between A. briganthiaca and halleri.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 05, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
The third and last batch of my Androsace pictures:

Androsace muscoidea
A. robusta
A. fedtschenkoi (a discutable species)
A. sempervivoides
A. hausmannii
A. ciliata x pubescens
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Jozef Lemmens on May 05, 2011, 09:19:02 PM
A. longifolia, but I have some doubts

Zdenek, in my opinion your  A. longifolia is a form of A. mariae.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 06, 2011, 06:54:31 AM
A. longifolia, but I have some doubts

Zdenek, in my opinion your  A. longifolia is a form of A. mariae.
Yes, it looks so, thank you.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: David Nicholson on May 06, 2011, 10:11:42 AM
Inspiring selection Zdenek, thanks for posting them.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Ragged Robin on May 07, 2011, 11:09:59 PM
A really lovely collection Zdenek, thank you for sharing them and showing how gorgeous they are in your alpine house.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: hadacekf on May 08, 2011, 07:57:12 PM
Zdenek,
Enjoyed your Androsaces immensely. Thanks
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 09, 2011, 04:28:49 PM
Zdenek,
Enjoyed your Androsaces immensely. Thanks
Thank you very much, Franz. My best greetings.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 30, 2011, 02:03:54 PM
I send here just three last Androsaces:
Androsace yargongensis
Androsace limprichtii
Androsace jacquemontii
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 21, 2012, 06:31:16 PM
Androsace bulleyana
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: wolfgang vorig on April 21, 2012, 07:41:57 PM
Zdenek, thanks for your great collection.

kind regards,  Wolfgang
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: astragalus on April 21, 2012, 09:45:59 PM
A beautiful collection.  Thanks for posting the pictures.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Paul T on April 22, 2012, 09:59:09 AM
Michael,

You need to issue sunglasses with that red one!!  :o :o  Beautifully bright!
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 22, 2012, 10:43:36 AM
Paul, that is the original colour,it has not been manipulated in any way. :)
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Paul T on April 22, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Michael,

I wasn't implying it had been manipulated.  I had assumed it was just that fiery colour naturally!!  I am guessing from your response that this colour is unusual in Androsace?  I grow exactly 2 of the genus.... they don't like our summers as far as I know, so I haven't gone there.  ;D
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: hadacekf on May 03, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
Androsace in my througs.
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-jacquemontii
Androsace-muscoidea
Androsace-villosa
Androsace-x-marpensis









Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on May 03, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Androsace in my througs.
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-jacquemontii
Androsace-muscoidea
Androsace-villosa
Androsace-x-marpensis

Breathtaking Franz !  :o :o :o
I wan't to ask wich compost you use in this troughs .Are they covered in winter ?
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 04, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Androsace in my througs.
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-jacquemontii
Androsace-muscoidea
Androsace-villosa
Androsace-x-marpensis
Franz, your Androsace x marpensis is wonderful! I am not able to get so many flowers.
Your A. jacquemontii seems me to be A. globifera. If it is so, it is a miracle, so many flowers!
I attach here a picture of my A. jacquemontii
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on May 04, 2012, 04:03:16 PM
Androsace in my througs.
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-cylindrica-x-hirtella
Androsace-jacquemontii
Androsace-muscoidea
Androsace-villosa
Androsace-x-marpensis

Pure magic Franz !!!!  :o :o
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: hadacekf on May 04, 2012, 08:09:26 PM
Thank you all together for the kind comments

Zdenek,
It is correct, my Androsace  jacquemontii is  A. globiferea . Thank you for your correction. 

Kris,
My soil mix consists of 25% compost, 25% garden soil, 50% sand.
Plastic roofs protect cover my through in summer and winter. Look on my website.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: ronm on May 04, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
Wonderful website Franz. 8) 8)
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: alan jones on May 05, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
Yes, Zdenek, you have got to love Androsace to raise them; they can drive us to distraction, but yours are brilliant.  Thanks for sharing them with us.  Alan J.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Zdenek on May 21, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
Three last Androsaces of this month:
A. ciliata x pubescens - probably cultural crossing
A. cylindrica x hirtella - the most easy Aretian Androsace grown
A. villosa var congesta - the real thing from Turkey
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: astragalus on May 23, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
The one I can really count on in the garden is Androsace villosa.  It seems able to accept dry conditions and most of the others I've tried cannot do so.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: astragalus on May 23, 2012, 06:07:40 PM
Sorry, forgot the picture.  If any of you who groiw androsaces know of any to try in a dry (and very cold) garden, please let me know.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Tim Ingram on May 25, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
Those pictures of Franz and Zdenek are pure magic. Like Anne our garden is dry and only stronger and more familiar species like studiosorum  and sempervivoides really do well. I must try forms of villosa because jacquemontii grows well if slowly. I wonder how many growers in the UK succeed so well with choicer species outside? They look so good in those first few pictures from Franz.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Michael J Campbell on June 04, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
Androsace lehmanniana goteborg yellow.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: David Nicholson on December 07, 2012, 04:05:42 PM
Although I specialise in Bulbs I have this notion that before I get too long in the tooth I should grow many more alpines and my Seed List choices last year and this year have been very much directed at alpines in general and particularly North American plants.

I have bought small plants of Androsace alpina, A mathildae and A (Douglasia) montana and am trying to decide whether it would be best to grow them in pots (greenhouse space problem!) troughs, or raised bed and would welcome any advice. I notice that in this thread Zdenek has shown them in both pots and raised bed and in the April 2009 Flowering Now thread WimB shows A mathildae also in a raised bed.

Given that my climate is wet and more wet if I were to try them outdoors would I need to give them protection over the Autumn/Winter seasons?

Any views greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
David, I'd think some overhead protection from wet ( maybe in summer as well as winter!!!) would be a good idea.  Something along the lines of Ian's favoured method of squares of weldmesh with a perspex lid would be a good answer. These are easily made, don't blow around and can be quickly deployed in grotty weather.
Will have a look for a link to what they look like, for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about..... ;)
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2012, 04:39:42 PM
David, I'd think some overhead protection from wet ( maybe in summer as well as winter!!!) would be a good idea.  Something along the lines of Ian's favoured method of squares of weldmesh with a perspex lid would be a good answer. These are easily made, don't blow around and can be quickly deployed in grotty weather.
Will have a look for a link to what they look like, for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about..... ;)

Here's a link to a Bulb Log with the "rain hats"  : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Aug041280927654BULB_LOG__31comp.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Aug041280927654BULB_LOG__31comp.pdf)  -they can be made any size, from single small plant size to large cushion or whole trough cover - very versatile.
 Bulb Log 31 2010 - Trough protection from rain.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: hadacekf on December 07, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
Here's a link to a Bulb Log with the "rain hats"  : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Aug041280927654BULB_LOG__31comp.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Aug041280927654BULB_LOG__31comp.pdf)  -they can be made any size, from single small plant size to large cushion or whole trough cover - very versatile.

A simple and good design!
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Graham Catlow on December 10, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
Hi,
I have a different design based on Ians 'rain hats' that I thought I would share with you.

Photos: 1&2 are of the covers in place over two of my troughs.
Photo 3: shows a cover easily removed during dry weather.
Photo 4: the underside of the cover which shows the frame that fits over the weld mesh frame.
Photo 5: the cable ties (thats what we call these in the UK), that hold the four weld mesh panels in place.
Photo 6: The weld mesh frame removed showing the flexibility of the frame.
Photo 7: the frame flat packed for the summer, (but still as a single unit due to the cable tie construction), for easy storage.
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Maggi Young on December 10, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Excellent improvement to the design, Graham, cleverly allowing a flat pack for storage.
I also like the cunning use of supports through the weld mesh to allow for the inclusion of your planted pot under the cover of the trough "hat" :   genius device!
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: Graham Catlow on December 10, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Thank You Maggie  :)
Title: Re: Androsace
Post by: David Nicholson on December 10, 2012, 06:53:57 PM
Thanks for digging out the info about the "rain hats" Maggi and thanks to Graham too for his slant on the design concept. I shall add the project to my list of jobs to do. The top of the list is to build a block plinth on which my stone sink (yes, the one I've had for about ten years and haven't done anything with!) will sit. The second is to convert the polystyrene boxes, (yes, the ones that presently take up a lot of space in the garage and have done for some time!) into troughs.

You will gather from the above that as far as job listing is concerned DIY projects tend to get left unless, as another important member has it, it's my daughter who needs something doing. ::)
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