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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Hans J on April 15, 2011, 03:27:29 PM
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Hi all ,
today I will start a new puzzle - in this time for a rare shrub .
I have collect a little seedling before some years on a travel ...I know the name ;D
This plant grows free in one of my borders ....and it is around 1,50 m high
Now I wait for any ideas 8)
Hans
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There's probably a trick, but maybe Lotus corniculatus? ;)
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:o I wrote : 1,50 m ....
Lotus corniculatus is 5 - 30 cm ;D
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Thermopsis ?
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Sorry ....no Thermopsis :-\
I wrote :
"I have collect a little seedling before some years on a travel " ....this travel was in Europe :P
it is the first time that this plant flowers for me !
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Maybe an Adenocarpus complicatus?
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No ...this plant comes from the Canarian Islands :-\
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Is it Lupinus arboreus perhaps?
Maybe an introduced species.
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No - sorry Graham ....my plant grows natural in this area :D
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Cytisus battandieri Hans ?
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Nicole ...sorry ....but Cytisus battandieri is from Marroco :P
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May be C. nigricans... :-\
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Hans, I think, I think, I think I may have received seed of this plant - from you?
Paddy
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Nicole ...sorry ( thats the wrong genus )
Paddy ....no seeds ( as I wrote ...this is the first time with flowering ) ....
My hope was that you Paddy as specialist for trees and shrubs could know it !
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Anagyris latifolia? Or a Teline?
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Sorry ....Anagyris latifolia is also from Gran Canaria :o
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Hans,
My first reaction was Thermopsis or Piptanthus and I know that you could not have collected either of these.
Me - and expert on shrubs! I must have given you the wrong impression. I am a generalist - a little bit of this and a little bit of that. As we say, "A jack of all trades and a master of none."
Paddy
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Is it a type of Caragana?
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I think it is similar Teline maderensis.
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Genista monspessulana syn Cytisus monspessulana syn Teline monspessulana?
Paddy
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A colutea species?
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Maybe a Cassia?
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Just found this thread and will give it a try too:
Chamaecytisus hirsutus ??
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Sorry friends for my long silence ....but I was for some days on a holiday trip ;D
Sorry to say ....but all answers are wrong !!!
Maybe this will help you a bit : the habitat of this plant is Montenegro -former Jugoslawia :D
Happy easter time
Hans 8)
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Ah, I was sure I had the correct answer. Now I am completely stumped.
Paddy
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some of you are on the right way :
Familia: Fabaceae
Subfamilia: Faboideae
Tribus: Genisteae
;D
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here is a new picture from today :
..maybe this will also help you .....
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Petteria ramentacea?
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Petteria ramentacea?
Oh dear... this shows my ignorance... never heard of that..... :-[
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;D ;D ;D
and the winner is :
Brian Ellis !!!
congratulation !
knows anybody this shrub ?
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Maggi ...dont worry ! ::)
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I found this...... a postage stamp from Montenegro...... ::) 8)
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Congratulation Maggi !
maybe also ...."Per ardua ad astra" :P
this travel was sometimes really a bit strange ....but we had no serious problems ;)
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I must admit to never having seen one in the flesh, as it were. A good puzzle Hans ;)
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Brian :
Maybe my shrub will make seeds ( I dont know if it self fertil or not ) ...my second plant has not survived :'(
So I can distribute this nice plant a little more !
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Well done, Brian. Good puzzle, Hans.
Paddy
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Sorry, to see this so late.
We grow it in the nursery I work, from seeds collected, two years ago. I know this species for over 20 years. Some very fine examples grow in front of the canarian house in the botanic garden of Hannover.
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Hi all ,
good news today from here ;D
I have now collect the fruits and there was some seeds inside ...if anybody is interestet so please write me a PM
It is really a nice garden plants and it should be more distributet !
Hans
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I received seed of Petteria ramentacea from Hans and I wrote to Uli W. (Onion)who is "our" shrub expert, to see if he had any advice for how to sow the seed for best results ? If the seeds should be deep or do they need light... and should it be sown now and put outside for the winter or sown under glass in spring time?
Dear Uli has given this answer....
"Hello Maggi,
the seeds of Petteria ramentacea are best sown in autumn. They need a cold period. In the nursery we put them in a unheated glass house. We covered them with sand and use our normal broadleaf substrate (nothing special). The seed is covered with 1 cm of sand. Need dark conditions to germinate. Germinate very quickly around March.
Very important: the slugs love the young seedlings. We lost some in one night.
Can't say how the grow when sown outside, because all our seeds are in the unheated glass house, the oldest we have in the nursery (more than 80 years old. Used in the past as a fern house).
Hope I can give you some help with this nice plant.
Uli "
Many thanks .... first to Hans for the seeds and then to Uli for his advice! Thanks, Friends!
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Thank you Maggi for asking Uli and for Uli to give us such good advices !!!
I still have some seeds to give away and now with this good tips is it easier ...more forumists should try to grow this plants !!!
Hans
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Seed and instructions are now to hand and hoping for successful germination next spring.
Paddy
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Sorry ....but all seeds are gone !
Hans
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I am pleased to say that my seeds are germinating as nothing happened last year, they have been totally neglected outside through the last winter apart from being kept dry. I have administered slug repellents and am keeping my fingers crossed :)