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General Subjects => General Forum => Topic started by: Hans J on April 10, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
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and now I declare the fungi saison 2011 for open ;D
My wife has found today :
Morchela esculenta ( thats the true Morel )
Disciotis venosa ( similar taste )
;) Hans
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Congratulations to Hans' wife! I'd never heard of Disciotis venosa, but it seems it's a red-listed (endangered species) here called Skivemorkel.
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Thank you Stephen :D
Those Disciotis venosa are in my area really common ...it is interesting : they smells raw after Chlor ....after cooking they have a smell and taste like a morel .
Here we call it : Bechermorchel
Hans
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I found a discussion about the edibility of this species on a Norwegian forum and somebody had found this quote from a German mushroom guide:
Gut abkochen, der Chlorgeruch verliert sich dabei" (Der Grosse Kosmos Pilzführer).
Boil well, the smell of chlorine is then lost "(The Great Cosmos mushroom guide).
Somebody responded that you would have to be desperate to want to eat this one...
Is it commonly eaten there or is your wife an extreme cook?
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Hans, great! You started mushroom season!
I'd never heard of Disciotis venosa
Me too.
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;D ;D ;D
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This little fungus appears every year about this time in boggy places in the ponies' field. It looks like white hair.
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Roma does it live on horse dung?
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I don't think it does, Mark. It is not the one which appears when piles of droppings go 'mouldy'. It only appears about this time of year and is quite widespread in wet places.
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This selection of Funghi was collected from the New Forest, not by me but I would love to join one of the Funghi forays there... they are so beautiful.
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My word, Robin- what a beautiful photo!
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Thanks Maggi, it seems a shame to cook them! The New forest is quite a collectors paradise but you have to be part of the select few who know where they are!
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These caught my eye the other day - under a row of pine trees approaching our local small town.
Any suggestions as to a name as I have no fungi books?
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The fungi in the pony fields is Pilobolus. Its life cycle involves the digestive track of many large herbivores where it germinates upon exiting in the fresh manure.
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I don't think it does, Mark. It is not the one which appears when piles of droppings go 'mouldy'. It only appears about this time of year and is quite widespread in wet places.
I get something similar, smaller perhaps, when a cat had pooed in my potting mix pile, or in the garden. I generally heave a shovelful containing poo and fungus, back to my neighbour whose cat it is. or rather into their high Cupressus macrocarpa hedge. :o
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I have had my mystery fungus identified as the fruiting bodies of Pellia epiphylla - a liverwort.
See : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7084.msg197100#msg197100
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NZ Basket fungi - Lleodictyon cibarium.
A masterpiece of natures design.
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My goodness! :o
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I used, as a child, to see these sometimes in my mother's garden in Invercargill but I haven't seen one for at least 50 years!
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Hells bells I have never seen anything remotely like that.
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NZ Basket fungi - Lleodictyon cibarium.
A masterpiece of natures design.
Extraordinary natural sculpture... and one that is replicated in one of the show gardens at Chelsea this year... I'll try later to find a photo of what I mean!
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Here's a photo of the garden I was thinking of... look at the construction in the background... that basket fungus to the life!
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The basket fungus starts as a white pufball then literally breaks out to become the basket.
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It is getting a bit late for fungi here but we found a few different species on Friday in the beech forest at Waipori, a location inland from Dunedin.
1,2. A rather beautiful Russula growing under Nothofagus menziseii that I have identified as Russula griseoviridis.
3, 4 Something I cannot identify perhaps a Podoscypha.
5 Geoglossum
6 Armillaria
7 Geastrum
8 Waipori River flowing through mixed beech/broadleaf forest
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I found that basket fungus in the woods at the Ruakuri cave, and on the football pitch up the road.
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David i love the pics of your fungi but that last shot is incredible,superb landscape.
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Could somebody id this for me please...is it edible?
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With those white gills I wouldn't risk it Davey. I don't know fungi much at all but it looks enough like the death cap Amanita phalloides, to get rid of it. There are a number of Amanita species, all poison to some degree I think.
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Davey
On the line under the picture says April. I wonder, are the mushrooms photographed in April?
Grew one by one, or many together, in grass or forest.
The picture is similar Calocybe gambosa, but to eat a white mushroom, you have to be 100 percent sure. Some of the most toxic mushrooms are white.
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Davey,
Pleased you liked the photo of the Waipori River- I managed to drop my lens cap into the river but was able to retrieve it by feeling around under the bank.
Your mushroom is not Amanita phalloides. Amanitas grow out of an egg-like structure. They have a universal veil at the base of the stipe (stalk) and a partial veil on the stipe below the cap. Ulla's ID sounds reasonable to me but judging from the reference I used it could be a few other things as well. If you wish to eat it make sure you leave some on the bedside table so the medics can identify it if you come to harm - it is easier that way than fishing around in partially digested stomach contents.
I would not presume to be able to identify a Northern hemisphere mushroom or any other mushroom for that matter as edible from a photo.
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Davey
On the line under the picture says April. I wonder, are the mushrooms photographed in April?
Grew one by one, or many together, in grass or forest.
The picture is similar Calocybe gambosa, but to eat a white mushroom, you have to be 100 percent sure. Some of the most toxic mushrooms are white.
Yes it was in April on a broadleaf wood floor,i trully would never eat a fungi that i have seen in the wild,its just too risky.
David that fair made me chuckle,leave a piece on the bedside cabinet,what a chuckle.
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Thanks for the reply. It is wise not to eat mushrooms that you are not completely sure of. It is a pleasure to go to the woods and pick mushrooms, and a welcome addition to cooking.
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When out for a walk yesterday, I got into a conversation with a couple who were foraging for fungi. One of them was E. European and I commented on how well the Europeans know their fungi as they are taught to recognise them from childhood whereas we Brits generally are not. Even as adults and armed with a book, we don’t have the courage to risk eating anything other than the field mushroom and (in my case) chantarelles. She told me a way of being sure and that is to boil a sample with some chopped white onion. If the onion turns blue, the mushroom is poisonous. It applies across the board apparently. Can anyone confirm this, please?
We then got on to squirrels as I had witnessed a grey squirrel eating a ‘mushroom’ under my birch tree. She said they also stash them away to eat in the winter. They must have an innate way of knowing how to go about this i.e. so that the mushroom dessicates rather than rots.
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Presumably they also know which are toxic, or maybe the poisons which affect humans are squirrel-benign?
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Armillariella mellea spawn. :(
(http://cs10384.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/y_a10e342b.jpg)
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Does anyone know this Fungus?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=170580&d=1313226285 (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=170580&d=1313226285)
No comments from the boys or I'll set Maggi on you ;D
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Now I've stopped laughing.... isn't that Enteridium lycoperdon the False Puffball... actually a slime mould, not a mushroom?
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How is Ann Widdecombe these days?
O.K. ... I will sit on the naughty step ... but for how long?
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To make amends ... an extraordinary fungi sp. from the Dolomites in July this year.
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Mark,
You're no fun! Sooo many comments we could make. :P
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The fungi I find are usually nibbled by slugs, ?squirrels, ?deer or knocked over by ponies but I spotted this Fly Agaric in pristine condition so went back to the house for my camera and it was dry enough to lie on the ground.
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You certainly did spot it Roma. :D
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Yesterday and today we got loads of Albatrellus ovinus, Lactarius lignyotus, Lactarius repraesentaneus, Lactarius trivialis, L. utilis, Leccinum aurantiacum, Leccinum versipelle, Russula spp. and some Boletus edulis and Cantharellus cibarius. Yummy :d, though maybe the species aren´t that familiar most of you.
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Panu: I've used most of those but only use Lactarius with orange milk. Enormous amounts of Chantarelles in the woods at the moment. Here's a batch being dried in the oven (with a few Boletus edulis and Hedgehog Fungus:, Hydnum repandum and H. rufescens)
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Awful set up, but some of the recent crop anyway. The Lactarius lignyotus were really delicious, it was the first time I´ve picked them. Still waiting for those two Hydnum species you mentioned Stephen and of course Cantharellus tubaeformis. Oh well, there´s many other wonderful species too.
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I actually also picked a few Cantharellus tubaeformis (Winter Chantarelle) - very early!
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Earlier this year I used some old Malus tree trunks to create the edge of a new fern bed under mature oak, scots pine and beech. A few days ago I noticed that fungi had started to grow and now I think they are probably at their best. In photo one spot the slug, I think the caption for the last photo should be 'faries at the bottom of my garden'.
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Stephen
How many 'foxes'!
Melvyn
These mushrooms look pretty but they eat wood and destroy it quickly.
Yesterday I found many Leccinum scabrum.
(http://cs10623.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/x_20f974b1.jpg)
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Armillariella mellea spawn. :(
(http://cs10384.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/y_a10e342b.jpg)
HATE! HATE! HATE!
This fungus killed several apple, plum, cherry and pear trees in my garden and has caused me a lof work clearing the area so that I could replant!
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Stephen
How many 'foxes'!
Melvyn
These mushrooms look pretty but they eat wood and destroy it quickly.
Yesterday I found many Leccinum scabrum.
Nice picture of the Birch Bolete (Brunskrubb here).
What do you mean by "foxes"?
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HATE! HATE! HATE!
Me too. >:( And I can not be sure I clarified my garden well. :-\
What do you mean by "foxes"?
Sorry! We call them fox because they are yellow-orange.
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HATE! HATE! HATE!
Me too. >:( And I can not be sure I clarified my garden well. :-\
What do you mean by "foxes"?
Sorry! We call them fox because they are yellow-orange.
OK, interesting - Лисичка? I google pictures of this word and I see a strange mixture of foxes, chantarelles and women dressed in yellow-orange clothes and furs....
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OK, interesting - Лисичка? I google pictures of this word and I see a strange mixture of foxes, chantarelles and women dressed in yellow-orange clothes and furs....
;D ;D ;D
Is the fungus the thread or root-like strings clinging to the wood?
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Does anyone know what type of mushroom these are? These are all the same, just different stages of growth. They get large, to 6" (15 cm) across when fully expanded. They seem to have come in from shredded pink bark mulch, they appear every year.
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Look like Amanita spp. Not sure which, but they are mycorrhizal so it is on one or several of the trees/shrubs in the area.
See http://pluto.njcc.com/~ret/amanita/mainaman.html (http://pluto.njcc.com/~ret/amanita/mainaman.html)and http://www.mushroomexpert.com/amanita.html (http://www.mushroomexpert.com/amanita.html)
Aaron
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Is the fungus the thread or root-like strings clinging to the wood?
Yes, often known as "Bootlaces"...
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OK, interesting - Лисичка? I google pictures of this word and I see a strange mixture of foxes, chantarelles and women dressed in yellow-orange clothes and furs....
:) Yes. Fox (Лисичка means a little fox. May be foxy?) is a name for orange mushroom. Chantarelles are very rare here and do not have russian name. Strings and women are far away. ;D
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My today's loot. :) Leccinum scabrum, Boletus variegatus, Lactarius torminosus, Lactarius deliciosus. I was screening my forest for a last one for two weeks. I like it very much.
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Olga, this looks very tasty! :P I like this even better then choclate.
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How wonderful to find and be able to pick and eat this bountiful harvest. I'm sure you enjoyed them all Olga. :)
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Mind if I call in for breakfast Olga?
That looks delicious ;D
It must be a good year for fungi, a few have popped up in the garden.
I have absolutely no idea what they are.
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Does anyone know what type of mushroom these are? These are all the same, just different stages of growth. They get large, to 6" (15 cm) across when fully expanded. They seem to have come in from shredded pink bark mulch, they appear every year.
Mark, have you considered Macrolepiota?
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Olga, this looks very tasty! :P I like this even better then choclate.
Lina yes I like this more than chocolate. :) Especially to gather. :)
How wonderful to find and be able to pick and eat this bountiful harvest. I'm sure you enjoyed them all Olga. :)
Yes Lesley all my family enjoyed! Mostly they are frozen for winter.
fredg :)
The weather is damp now. Mushrooms like it. I have no idea which is yours. ???
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A couple of days ago I gather a 20 litre basket of Lactarius deliciosus.
(http://cs10623.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/y_e6eb53a9.jpg)
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Olga, why do you freeze rather than dry the fungi ? I would think freezing made them too soft when used later?
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Maggi, I don't know. :) May be because it's the easiest I can do. :)
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Maggi, I don't know. :) May be because it's the easiest I can do. :)
:D That seems a reasonable answer! :)
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Maggi ,
I have just ask my wife :
Not all fungi are possibly to dry ( those on the pic from Olga not ) - also Cantarellus is not possibly.
To give it in freeze is much easier and make not such a lot work !
P.E: Boletus are fine for drying ....but you must make small slices ...othereise they need to long time for drying!
...and it is always a risk with drying : if one fly lay a egg inside and the dried fungi are later in glass so the caterpillar can kill all fungi inside !!!
A other way to conservate fungi is to fry them and later lay it in a glass with olive oil ( the italian people use this method )
Have fun
Hans
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Thanks, Hans, my regards and thanks to Barbara! :)
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I preserve mushrooms by pickling, drying, frying and then freezing. Just putting mushrooms in oil has it´s own risks too. Oh, and Cantharellus tubaeformis are just fine to dry. Haven´t tried with (golden) chanterelle, but you can grind them after drying. Otherwise they are a bit chewy, I´ve heard.
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Not all fungi are possibly to dry ( those on the pic from Olga not ) - also Cantarellus is not possibly.
To give it in freeze is much easier and make not such a lot work !
P.E: Boletus are fine for drying ....but you must make small slices ...othereise they need to long time for drying!
...and it is always a risk with drying : if one fly lay a egg inside and the dried fungi are later in glass so the caterpillar can kill all fungi inside !!!
A other way to conservate fungi is to fry them and later lay it in a glass with olive oil ( the italian people use this method )
Yes! I’m shaking your wife’s hand. :)
Russian method of fungi conservation is to ferment, leaven them. It’s not so easy as to freeze but it is convenient for all fungi species.
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Slug encroaching on gnom's meals. :)
(Crucibulum laeve)
(http://cs10623.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/y_b062756b.jpg)
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Olga, the superb quality of your photographs never ceases to delight me, thank you!
Is it just me or is there a hint of the look of a whale about that slug? It could be a horror film!
No, not a whale, a giant squid!
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Maggi ,
I have just ask my wife :
Not all fungi are possibly to dry ( those on the pic from Olga not ) - also Cantarellus is not possibly.
To give it in freeze is much easier and make not such a lot work !
P.E: Boletus are fine for drying ....but you must make small slices ...othereise they need to long time for drying!
...and it is always a risk with drying : if one fly lay a egg inside and the dried fungi are later in glass so the caterpillar can kill all fungi inside !!!
A other way to conservate fungi is to fry them and later lay it in a glass with olive oil ( the italian people use this method )
Have fun
Hans
I know quite a few mushroom gatherers and they dry Cantharellus cibarius and claim they are delicious afterwards.
(http://www.flittig.no/upload/image/t%C3%B8rkesopp1.jpg)
Picture taken from here: http://www.flittig.no/template_permalink.asp?id=148
Often they use special "mushroom drying boilers":
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From here: http://tantejul.blogg.no/1223497843_trke_sopp_trkesopp_tr.html
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I'm one of those who dries Cantharellus and, yes, they are delicious! I had read in books that they didn't taste good when dried, but I tried anyway and didn't regret it!!
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Our local beauty spot in Whitworth, Lancashire was awash with fungi yesterday. We often see a few examples each autumn, but they were everywhere ...
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... And there's more ...
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... Not mush room for many more ...
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... the final few.
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Cliff some lovely images there. The last few pictures are like an invasion of mushrooms, love them 8)
Angie :)
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Cliff, do you know some of your fungi you could not only shoot but eat too?
4 SMALL, 19 SMALL - 29 SMALL, 31 SMALL - 35 SMALL are edible.
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Our forests are full of mushrooms too.
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Many thanks Olga (and for your lovely images).
I'm afraid our local beauty spot is also a dog-walker's paradise ... I wouldn't risk touching, let alone eating, any of those! :D :-X
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Just catching up - great shots Olga and Cliff! Olga: I've never seen so many good Lactarius deliciosus before! Here's my Chantarelles being dried in the oven (40C with the door slightly open). I dry because it's the easiest way!!
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Picked what seems like a lifetime supply of Winter Chanterelles today. Enormous quantities of this in the Norway Spruce woods at the moment. I almost couldn't get them all on my bike!
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Cliff, oh! :-\ I was wrong.
Stephen, I can say I've never seen so many Chantarelles before. :) And I've never seen and eaten black Chantarelles.
What do you cook with dried fungi?
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The weather was perfect yesterday. Sunny and warm.
I found Leccinum percandidum.
(http://cs10623.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/96349122/y_97f2cbcd.jpg)
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Stropharia aeruginosa. It's edible but I beware of eating it.
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The weather was perfect yesterday. Sunny and warm.
I found Leccinum percandidum.
Nice Incredible pictures, Olga! According to Fungi Nordica this species is now considered to be an albino form of Leccinum versipelle. It is occassionally found in my area, but I've never seen it.
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Well, it took about 90 minutes to collect the winter chantarelles, but 3-4 hours to clean them. Finally finished and both the oven and a drying rack I've rigged up above the wood burning stove are full!
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This year in our woods a lot of Helvella infula. :D
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Helvella infula.
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In the middle of the dam beavers arranged - on tree grew much Pholiota aurivella.
P.S.To swim up to a tree it was not possible, therefore has enlarged a photo part. :D
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While working on ladies garden today planting daffs,i found black truffles underneath one of the large beech trees and i have to say why do people use them they smell awfull.Are there any foodies that would like a black truffle i have only brought one home with me.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place for my picture, but while enjoying more than 3 weeks holiday in Austria with most of the days sunny weather with blue skies, we found this little so called "mushroom house"
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Frozen Clitocybe nebularis.
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Lovely image, Olga.
Four from a local wood ...
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While working on ladies garden today planting daffs,i found black truffles underneath one of the large beech trees and i have to say why do people use them they smell awfull.Are there any foodies that would like a black truffle i have only brought one home with me.
Black truffles are to die for. I had them at a restaurant in Provence ("Chez Bruno") and again in Italy (where they know how to do fillet steak properly). 8)
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I came across these on my walk over the weekend..