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Title: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Ru on April 01, 2011, 12:26:06 AM
My acquaintance Pavel Mjagkih lives in Simferopol. It has sent me this photo! Crimea, Chatyr-Dag. Bulbs are in a rock crack.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: KentGardener on April 01, 2011, 03:52:36 AM
My acquaintance Pavel Mjagkih lives in Simferopol. It has sent me this photo! Crimea, Chatyr-Dag. Bulbs are in a rock crack.

Good lord!   :o 
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 01, 2011, 05:27:43 AM
Well it is April Fool's Day! ;D Just as well as we'd have Galanthophiles swooning all over the plants.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 01, 2011, 06:22:21 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 01, 2011, 07:21:38 AM
Morning all, morning Martin, here is a pic of gnv-seedlings (two years old). With a little luck it is a cross between two very slowly increasing gnv. These seedlings are my hope for the next years(it is no April Fool's Day). The only things I need are time and patience.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 01, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
Well it is April Fool's Day! ;D Just as well as we'd have Galanthophiles swooning all over the plants.
Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2011, 11:12:27 AM
Well it is April Fool's Day! ;D Just as well as we'd have Galanthophiles swooning all over the plants.
Did I miss something?
It was on the previous page,  Anthony...... but I've started an April thread... see first post above!
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maren on April 01, 2011, 01:48:35 PM
Pink snowdrops, that's a new one on me. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2011, 03:31:09 PM
In the main SRGC Website, Sandy Leven's report on the RBGE Snowdrop Day is now online:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/feature/features.html    - features area

http://www.srgc.org.uk/feature/snowdrops2009/report.pdf   - Sandy Leven's  report
 8)

 N.B.  In the report, the  sentence " Richard then talked about some good plicatus plants – Diggory, Yapples and Clovis."  SHOULD READ Richard then talked about some good plicatus plants – Diggory, Yaffle and Clovis.    ::) :-\
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2011, 10:20:37 AM
Folks, Brian E has kindly pointed out the error about Yapples/Yaffle in Sandy's report -

In the report, the  sentence " Richard then talked about some good plicatus plants – Diggory, Yapples and Clovis."  SHOULD READ Richard then talked about some good plicatus plants – Diggory, Yaffle and Clovis.    ::) :-X
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Alan_b on April 02, 2011, 11:04:15 AM
Living up to its name having just come into flower, Ransomes Late (originally from Jo Hynes).
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 02, 2011, 08:15:34 PM
Alan, your late g looks good, here is another one, WHITE GEM:
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 02, 2011, 08:28:24 PM
He was looking for the last galanthus flowers.
She is bringing him home.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 02, 2011, 10:47:56 PM
Drunk and disorderly again? :D In my very young days, I was told sheep were trying to get a better view over the fence. ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 03, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
Lesley, perhaps our fences are only lower? ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Ru on April 03, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
2 flowers accrete. Siamese twins  :).
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: daveyp1970 on April 03, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
Ru that pic is fantastic,if it was to be stable that would make a nice snowdrop.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Ru on April 03, 2011, 07:21:14 PM
Stability aren't present, but some clamps are unequivocally more inclined to formation of accrete flowers.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 04, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
Several clamp (with at least half of the flowers of this type) was observed in the population, which also found Galanthus with two flowers on a caulis.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 04, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
Galanthus plicatus  - 2 flowers.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 05, 2011, 06:09:30 AM
Thank you Наталья, the season goes east :).
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 07, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
Who is this horrible creature that landed on a patch at a friend's while I was photographing? Maybe just a fly covered in pollen, he sounded like a fly.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 07, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Meanwhile back to her garden....  plus a find amongst the dense patches.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
With the past two frigid winters in the UK there was much discussion on the freezing of potted Galanthus.  Many friends over there purchased plants which later succumbed to mid-winter freezing at relatively warmer temperatures than experienced here.  Here we plunge the potted bulbs in wood chips in a cold frame, the frame is then covered with white poly and sealed tightly.  (Over the boards we lay rigid rippled plastic sheets to prevent the poly from collapsing under snowload.) The wood chips prevent the cold from penetrating from all sides, freezing from the top down surely occurs; the white poly prevents severe temperature swings and excess ice and water build-up.  Square pots minimize the task of getting chips in between round pots, the square are packed tightly into square Portland flats.  

We had a long stretch of cold temperatures after mid January with a low of -15.5c, snow cover was unreliable.  A few days ago we opened the frames and all are just fine.  This might be a method adaptable in the UK for precious new purchases and other borderline bulbs.  This method has worked for years and through some brutal winters.

Now the nasty task of getting the chips off the soil surfaces of the pots to prevent botritys.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 10, 2011, 06:50:30 PM
Looking good John ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 10, 2011, 07:02:37 PM
 This may sound daft but I'll suggest it anyway....... we have an electric leaf blower/ vacuum machine. Not one of those that macerates what it lifts, just an outdoor vacuum for leaves, etc. One of its virtues is that as well as being able to blow fallen (even wet) leaves and debris from around little plants it is also quite gentle at removing debris by suction from around them too. The level of suction is strong enough to lift anything loose in the area but the  foliage and flowers of the plants are noit damaged. I'm sure it would work a treat on lifting the wood chips from around the snowdrops without  hurting them.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: daveyp1970 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:29 PM
I'm with Brian your drops are looking really good and your coldframe is something I'm thinking of doing.Thank you John.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2011, 08:21:38 PM
I'm a bit wary of your leaf blower Maggi as Brian told me it had a vac / grinder setting for snowdrops.  ;)

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
I'm with Brian your drops are looking really good and your coldframe is something I'm thinking of doing.Thank you John.

Davey - In your climate you could probably forgo the chip mulch and probably remove the white poly in late January after the worse threat of cold passes (??). Nevertheless it would save a lot of grief and we've all had our share of that. Maybe an added item might be a tight fitting screen after the poly comes off, against you know what.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 10, 2011, 08:36:22 PM
I'm a bit wary of your leaf blower Maggi as Brian told me it had a vac / grinder setting for snowdrops.  ;)

johnw
  That man is an alarmist, john...  he has no faith in me..... No, I promise you, no grinder attachment, even for snowdrops  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2011, 09:11:56 PM
Davey - I've just been think of the pitfalls of our set-up in the UK.  Perhaps rather than poly a simple raised lid to keep excess rain off but raised enough for good air cirrculation might be enough.   I keep forgetting that our lower temperatures make it safer to seal the frame tight and as well you don't have the wild temperature swings we have.  In your low light and relatively milder winter temps  things might turn to slop without air.

I'd be interested to hear what you and other think issues might be there and elsewhere.

johnw - double digits here today.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
I'm a bit wary of your leaf blower Maggi as Brian told me it had a vac / grinder setting for snowdrops.  ;)

johnw
 That man is an alarmist, john...  he has no faith in me..... No, I promise you, no grinder attachment, even for snowdrops  ;D

Okay, he said gingerly.  ;)  And if you're not telling the truth it would be great start at chipping.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 10, 2011, 09:27:12 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Leena on April 13, 2011, 11:58:10 AM
First of my unknown old Galanthus nivalis are blooming. Usually they start earlier, in March, but this year we have had so much snow, that they are late.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maren on April 13, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
Hi,

I just bought a potful (3) of Galanthus atkinsonii from Jacques Amand for £3.50. No virus on the leaves, as far as I can tell. Does this sound reasonable? :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 13, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
A synonym of G. 'Atkinsii', Maren. 
Sounds a good price to me.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maren on April 14, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Thanks, Maggi, I have corrected the name on the label. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 14, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
Maren,

Certainly, good value. G. Atkinsii is, in my opinion, one of the best performing snowdrops in the garden, holds itself up well and clumps up vigorously over the years. An excellent choice.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 22, 2011, 08:38:21 AM
Snowdrops blooming today in my garden

Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 22, 2011, 08:41:36 AM
and some more photos ...
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 22, 2011, 11:46:39 AM
Some interesting variations Natalia, I particularly like the lovely long petals on Galanthus woronowii_2008.jpg
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: art600 on April 22, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
As we swelter in this continuing heatwave - hotter than Egypt!! - it is so nice to see snowdrops and be reminded of cooler times.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Melvyn Jope on April 22, 2011, 01:49:47 PM
Beautiful flowers Natalia, I too especially like the different forms of G.woronowii.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 22, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
Thank you, colleagues!
 I also like Galanthus woronowii_2008, it is larger than the growing number of G.woronowii. Oakwood has suggested that perhaps it is a hybrid with G.krasnovii.

 art600, we have been in the Sahara last year ..
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: johnw on April 22, 2011, 04:53:24 PM
Natalia - Wonderful to see such fine forms of woronowii.  Your krasnoviis are super.  Are the krasnoviis fully hardy in your garden?  Thanks for all your hard work.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 22, 2011, 05:15:52 PM
John,thanks your! :)
G.krasnovii resistant in my garden, but they are in nature is well tolerated frosts, perhaps even a necessary condition for them. But the conditions of the garden, very wet spring, very wet soil. In nature, populations of G.krasnovii clearly confined to the water stream - watch it on the lower limit of altitudinal distribution.
 G.krasnovii suffered frosts, 2009, when it was -32 with a layer of 3 cm of snow, but in spring 2010 of the bulbs did not come out to the surface and I thought I had lost some of the selections. But even after the heat of last summer they bloom.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: alpinelover on April 22, 2011, 10:08:18 PM
and some more photos ...

Nice pictures, Natalia, hardly to believe there are now growing snowdrops. Today here in Belgium, it was 26,5 °C. The leaves of the snowdrops are almost disappeared.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 23, 2011, 11:34:54 AM
Hello Natalia. Super plants. From a distance your krasnovii look like platyphyllus.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: loes on April 23, 2011, 07:25:40 PM
very nice to see those krasnovii`s,Nathalia
they really like your place
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 24, 2011, 08:41:49 AM
It is good to see the snowdrops still giving pleasure from colder climes.

At the Alpines 2011 conference I was delighted to meet a fine galanthophile, Olive Mason. What a charming lady she is , so very good humoured about the teasing that the galanthophiles take here on the Forum but then again she is a calm and reasoned person!  8) http://www.gapphotos.com/imagedetails.asp?imageno=173239 (http://www.gapphotos.com/imagedetails.asp?imageno=173239)

Yesterday I was given a G. Primrose Warburg from a kind visiting Forumist.  I'm pleased to have a reminder of that lady in my garden. :D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: olegKon on April 25, 2011, 02:40:14 PM
Yes, Maggi, the garden here is full of Snowdrops. As usual we have everything flowering almost together here. Some snowdrops new for me this season
1. Lady Elphinstone from Susan Band
2. Ophelia
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Oakwood on April 26, 2011, 09:18:43 AM
Thank you, colleagues!
 I also like Galanthus woronowii_2008, it is larger than the growing number of G.woronowii. Oakwood has suggested that perhaps it is a hybrid with G.krasnovii.


Not at all, Natalia, I've never suggested that your G. krasnovii or giant exemplars of G. woronowii had hybrid nature with G. woronowii.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 26, 2011, 06:35:58 PM
Dmitry, I do not understand all the talk about the big G.woronovii. As far as I can remember - a hypothesis put forward about the hybrids. At the same time a conversation polyploidy. What is true?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: art600 on April 27, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
As all my snowdrops have finished I am delighted that I now have my 'Snowdrop' tree - Halesia carolina  :) ;) :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 27, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
Excellent forward planning Arthur ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 27, 2011, 10:41:10 AM
Excellent forward planning Arthur ;D
Isn't it just?  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Natalia on April 27, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
Colleagues, I ask to forgive - has wrongly placed the answer in Russian.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 27, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
Natalia, no problem a lot of east german can translate a little bit Russian. But English is much easier (only my English not ;))
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 27, 2011, 05:26:50 PM
No problem for me either, Natalia. My wife speaks and reads Russian, so I have a translator in the house  :)
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