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Title: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: emma T on March 31, 2011, 09:26:24 AM
Its a long shot asking for this on a rock garden forum, but hey ho.

My boss has asked me to try and find him a white flowered Paulownia tormentosa (foxglove tree) He was given one in Australia by a botanic garden and he would now like one in his garden here in the U.K

He hasnt given me much to go on     ???    . He doesn't know the variety/cultivar . He is sure it is tormentosa not fargesii or fortunei.

Does anyone know of a white flowered form in this country ? Or the cultivar/ variety it might be ? Or even better where i can buy one  ? I would be happy to try growing from seed.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Paddy Tobin on March 31, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
Sorry, Emma, no help to you. Although I have grown Paulownia tomentosa for nearly ten years, it hasn't flowered yet. It is a fine size by now, about 15 feet X 15 feet and a lovely tree but the flowers would be very welcome.

Paddy
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 31, 2011, 09:47:28 PM
Masses of them in upper New Zealand but I've not seen a white flowered one.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Onion on April 02, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
http://books.google.de/books?id=DzqPvHlFkV4C&pg=PA595&lpg=PA595&dq=Paulownia+tomentosa+white+form&source=bl&ots=xmEpmopyA9&sig=ZYm4dlsBd72FoEuW8IvuAaIN9UE&hl=de&ei=oXGXTa7yNonvsgap6py-CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Paulownia%20tomentosa%20white%20form&f=false

In this article the white form is Paulownia fortunei. Never heard from a white form of Paulownia tomentosa.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: emma T on April 05, 2011, 08:44:44 AM
Oh well  :-\

The boss will just have to have purple flowers. I suppose we could paint them   ;D

He was given the white flowered form by a botanic garden, so might be a very rare tree  :(
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: TheNorm on April 05, 2011, 03:11:00 PM
Could it be a Catalpa rather than a Paulownia?  Catalpa flowers are white and although the leaves are quite a bit smaller, they are similar in most respects and pretty hardy.

That may, or may not be of any value, but at least it gives you an alternative direction to try.  

The other thing I just thought of was the similarity and diversity of Clerodendrum; could this be what he was meaning?

Good luck,


Lewis
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: emma T on April 05, 2011, 04:41:04 PM
Nope its a Paulownia.

My boss is very good with plants, he knows its a white Paulownia. Could be that it is not tomentosa , maybe one of the other species.

We already grow 3 different Catalpa , and Clerodendrum ( despite the stinky leaves   :-X  )

Thanks for the suggestion's  ;D
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: TheNorm on April 05, 2011, 06:45:36 PM
Shucks, I'm beaten I fear.  Can't find anything in the RHS plantfinder, if I was to recommend a nursery that might have something like it, it would be Burncoose. 

Regrettably, the best I can do.

Sorry,

Lewis

But wait, a small breakthrough.  A photo on the following link attributed to Mark Smyth, could this be our very own Mark?  Worth enquiring with him.

http://www.wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/F/FoxgloveTree/FoxgloveTree.htm

L
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: emma T on April 06, 2011, 08:43:25 AM
Well, the photos were taken in Paris. So the french have a white foxglove tree. Maybe a trip to France is in order  ;D At least i know what I'm looking for exists outside of Australia
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Maggi Young on April 06, 2011, 09:43:27 AM
Well, the photos were taken in Paris. So the french have a white foxglove tree. Maybe a trip to France is in order  ;D At least i know what I'm looking for exists outside of Australia

 Yes, but they're bound to notice you digging it up, aren't they?  ::) :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: David Nicholson on April 06, 2011, 09:58:40 AM
... and difficult to hide under your coat.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Maggi Young on April 06, 2011, 10:15:11 AM
... and difficult to hide under your coat.
or even under an attractive  hat..........
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: emma T on April 06, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
Well, the photos were taken in Paris. So the french have a white foxglove tree. Maybe a trip to France is in order  ;D At least i know what I'm looking for exists outside of Australia

 Yes, but they're bound to notice you digging it up, aren't they?  ::) :-\ ;D

 ;D that they might  !
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: rosewood on June 07, 2013, 12:56:51 PM
This tree is planted in Nashville, TN, USA. Paulownia with definitely white, not lilac,  flowers.

Its a long shot asking for this on a rock garden forum, but hey ho.

My boss has asked me to try and find him a white flowered Paulownia tormentosa (foxglove tree) He was given one in Australia by a botanic garden and he would now like one in his garden here in the U.K

He hasnt given me much to go on     ???    . He doesn't know the variety/cultivar . He is sure it is tormentosa not fargesii or fortunei.

Does anyone know of a white flowered form in this country ? Or the cultivar/ variety it might be ? Or even better where i can buy one  ? I would be happy to try growing from seed.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Maggi Young on June 07, 2013, 01:05:05 PM
Greetings, Rosewood, welcome to the forum.

Your comment about this tree in Tennessee makes me wonder how hardy it would be in the UK . ... have you any thoughts on that?

Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: rosewood on June 07, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
Hi Maggi,

I believe it would be hardy once well established because it looks like Nashville is zone 7. Perhaps it needs winter covering for a while. I know that the regular lilac flowered empress tree survives in Hungary where the winter can be as cold as -25 C.
Happy Gardening!

Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: Maggi Young on June 07, 2013, 04:40:02 PM
Thanks - looks like I am over-estimating Nashville's zone.

Worth trying  for sure if we can source it.
Title: Re: Paulownia tormentosa white flowered form
Post by: rosewood on June 07, 2013, 07:23:02 PM
I wonder if someone at the Sissinghurst White Garden might shed light on its name or origin.
http://frustratedgardener.com/2012/07/03/sensational-sissinghurst-part-2-white-heat/ (http://frustratedgardener.com/2012/07/03/sensational-sissinghurst-part-2-white-heat/)

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