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Title: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on March 23, 2011, 08:37:50 AM
As a newbie here, I'd like to share with you all my favourite Fuchsia - F.perscandens
It's a New Zealand native, which is supposedly hardy down to a degree or to of frost (although I'm not putting it to the test). Kept in the  garage over the winter and recently moved into the conservatory overnight and on cool days. Blessed with a naturally messy growth habit, it will scramble upwards if left to it's own devices. I however keep it as a small specimen (up to half a metre'ish) with no detrimental effect on blooming as the flowers come from the branches.
Photo taken last September.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: mark smyth on March 23, 2011, 10:30:51 AM
yes very nice. I think I saw this growing outside in a Cornish garden
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on March 23, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Thanks Mark. That would make sense, as the climate down there would be more agreeable. More like Siberia here in Oxfordshire the last couple of winters though...
For anyone interested, the link below gives a nice overview of New Zealands native Fuchsia.....
http://nfsnz.orconhosting.net.nz/nzspecies.htm
I have a hankering to give F.procumbens a go if anyone has any advice.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: David Lyttle on March 26, 2011, 08:09:17 AM
Fuchsia perscandens is perfectly hardy probably down to about -5 degrees of frost, It can grow as a climber (in forest) or as a mound in the open, It is normally deciduous in the winter. It can get quite rampant in a garden so get out the secateurs. Fuchsia procumbens is not frost tolerant and is killed by quite light frosts. It is normally trailing and fairly small but in a greenhouse or conservatory can become rampant and climb. Fuchsia perscandens is very easy to strike from cuttings. Fuchsia procumbens is grown widely in New Zealand but Fuchsia perscandens is not well known and hardly grown at all
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on March 26, 2011, 10:29:57 AM
Fuchsia perscandens is perfectly hardy probably down to about -5 degrees of frost, It can grow as a climber (in forest) or as a mound in the open, It is normally deciduous in the winter. It can get quite rampant in a garden so get out the secateurs. Fuchsia procumbens is not frost tolerant and is killed by quite light frosts. It is normally trailing and fairly small but in a greenhouse or conservatory can become rampant and climb. Fuchsia perscandens is very easy to strike from cuttings. Fuchsia procumbens is grown widely in New Zealand but Fuchsia perscandens is not well known and hardly grown at all

Thanks David. I'd best keep mine undercover then as my low this last winter -21 centigrade!
I've sourced a F.procumbens which I intend to keep as a small specimen.
Title: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 22, 2012, 05:37:18 PM
Here's a photo that I took earlier of some of the flower buds on my F.perscandens - it's interesting (to me anyway) because it shows how the flowers on this emerge from the older woody stems, and not the more usual fresh growth.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6743163519_514a809f40_b.jpg)

(Note to moderators; I've used the URL for the large image to show the detail - if this is inappropriate, leave a comment to that effect and I can alter it)
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2012, 05:47:12 PM
Very illustrative picture... clearly showing that emergence from "old growth".

The buds also  have a great look of being formed from wet jelly....  :o 8) 
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Hoy on January 22, 2012, 06:25:33 PM
Meanie,
now I am curiously awaiting a picture of the flowers ;)
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
I have merged two pages, Trond.... so scroll up to the first post on the page and your wish is granted..... ;)
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 22, 2012, 06:35:14 PM
Maggi - I think that sometimes we don't pay enough attention to flower buds........

Hoy - this is what they will look like (as long as we don't get any Arctic weather)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g430/longk48/Picture16864.jpg)

Looks like being a really good display this year, especially as the leaves will be very small  (they're usually hid beneath the leaves).
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 22, 2012, 06:37:03 PM
Thanks Maggi - you're efficiency out-does my typing! Heck of a memory too!!!
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Maggi - I think that sometimes we don't pay enough attention to flower buds........

I agree with you. There can be astonishing forms and textures in buds.
It is only too easy to overlook such treasures, especially in tiny flowers. It is one of the greatest thrills of digital photography, in my opinion, that we are able to so easily share photos that really show so many intimate details of our plants. Such capacity must add such a lot to our general appreciation of the magical life of plants.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
You know what they say, meanie: an elephant never forgets  ;D
 Actually, I remembered that super photo at the top of the page.... it is a cracker.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 22, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
Maggi - I think that sometimes we don't pay enough attention to flower buds........

I agree with you. There can be astonishing forms and textures in buds.
It is only too easy to overlook such treasures, especially in tiny flowers. It is one of the greatest thrills of digital photography, in my opinion, that we are able to so easily share photos that really show so many intimate details of our plants. Such capacity must add such a lot to our genral appreciation of the magical life of plants.

Agreed!

Three of my favourites...............

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B3pKvQn1jEs/TPVMThQ3BGI/AAAAAAAACKs/nAlytuy3GOQ/s512/Picture%25252015212.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oWXSsrl7fN0/TPVNRGssaaI/AAAAAAAACLE/8DAIH660H8M/s512/Picture%25252015589.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M02bAOAaIjw/TPVML1gFGDI/AAAAAAAACKo/II-d15HQSyQ/s720/Picture%25252015423.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 22, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
You know what they say, meanie: an elephant never forgets  ;D
 Actually, I remembered that super photo at the top of the page.... it is a cracker.

I could send a cutting later in the year if you want..............
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2012, 07:03:04 PM
That is very kind of you, meanie... but no thanks, I would have to plant it outside and I don't think it would stand a chance here.
We do have Fuchsia procumbens outside but it takes a terrible hammering most years.
 I'll just enjoy your pictures,  thanks again.  :-*
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Hoy on January 22, 2012, 09:09:50 PM
I have merged two pages, Trond.... so scroll up to the first post on the page and your wish is granted..... ;)
Thank you, Maggi! Certainly I don't have the memory of an elephant (but I know it when I see one). I remember the picture when I see it!

Maggi - I think that sometimes we don't pay enough attention to flower buds........

Hoy - this is what they will look like (as long as we don't get any Arctic weather)

Looks like being a really good display this year, especially as the leaves will be very small  (they're usually hid beneath the leaves).
Thank you, meanie! Very nice - a sort of modest charm! Not at all like their overfat cousins!
Do you get arctic winters?
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 22, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Meanie, is the white flower a white form of normally red-flowered Malvaviscus?
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 23, 2012, 08:14:45 AM
Maggi - bu@@er!! |I was hoping that you would have success with a cutting and let me in on the secret!
If you can get F.procumbens through, this should be fine. In the past I've over-wintered it under cover, but this year it has been out all winter and looks like it will bloom better than ever.

Hoy - thankfully we do not get arctic winters!

OnionMan - The white flower is Datura wrightii.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2012, 11:14:56 AM
Reading this with Ian in the background, meanie.... he says it would be churlish not to accept your offer.
So, if I might change my mind and gratefully accept the chance of a cutting, then, Thanks very much!
Will pm address in anticipation :)
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 23, 2012, 11:33:22 AM
Reading this with Ian in the background, meanie.... he says it would be churlish not to accept your offer.
So, if I might change my mind and gratefully accept the chance of a cutting, then, Thanks very much!
Will pm address in anticipation :)

As you have the memory of an elephant, remind me May time. This will give you time to advise me on the best type of cutting (hard or soft) to send.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
Will do my best.......... :-\
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: annew on January 23, 2012, 12:48:25 PM
Great photos - what are they? I love the white one especially
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 23, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
Great photos - what are they? I love the white one especially

In order they are; Datura wrightii, Cleome spinosa and Aconitum carmichaelii.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: David Lyttle on January 27, 2012, 07:28:42 AM
Reading this with Ian in the background, meanie.... he says it would be churlish not to accept your offer.
So, if I might change my mind and gratefully accept the chance of a cutting, then, Thanks very much!
Will pm address in anticipation :)

Maggi,

If you can grow Fuchsia procumbens you will have no difficulty with Fuchsia perscandens. It is considerably more hardy and  winter deciduous. However dont plant it in a greenhouse it will occupy all the space you allow it. It roots very easily from cuttings usually in a matter of weeks.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Maggi Young on January 27, 2012, 09:45:13 AM
David, that is most encouraging news, thank you.
No fear of it going in a glass house... around here you have to be a bulb to get that place.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Hoy on January 27, 2012, 06:09:35 PM
Reading this with Ian in the background, meanie.... he says it would be churlish not to accept your offer.
So, if I might change my mind and gratefully accept the chance of a cutting, then, Thanks very much!
Will pm address in anticipation :)

Maggi,

If you can grow Fuchsia procumbens you will have no difficulty with Fuchsia perscandens. It is considerably more hardy and  winter deciduous. However dont plant it in a greenhouse it will occupy all the space you allow it. It roots very easily from cuttings usually in a matter of weeks.

I don't grow procumbens but magellanica. How is the hardiness compared with magellanica?
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: David Lyttle on January 27, 2012, 08:18:05 PM


I don't grow procumbens but magellanica. How is the hardiness compared with magellanica?
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It should be very similar
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: meanie on January 27, 2012, 09:03:14 PM


It should be very similar
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That is good news! I have F.procumbens coming along from seed and will have enough plants to experiment.
Title: Re: Fuchsia perscandens
Post by: Hoy on January 27, 2012, 10:23:53 PM

It should be very similar

Thanks! That's good news! Now I have two more on my list: Fuchsia procumbens and perscandens.
Have to look for seeds or cuttings ;)
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