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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on March 15, 2011, 07:09:48 AM
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I thought we already had a thread for Lycoris this year but can't find it, so decided to start this one.
Lycoris elsae and L radiata (as we know it but I'm told it isn't) have started their brief but colourful show!
Lycoris elsae - I thought the main clump wasn't going to flower as only a single stem flowered elsewhere, but on the weekend this clump sprang into bloom!
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In the background you can see the single stem from the clump of L. aurea.
On Friday I discovered a clump of Lycoris "radiata" which had never bloomed before and which I'd considered moving as they'd become overshadowed!
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And the next day the clump in full sun were ablaze!
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cheers
fermi
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Beautifulll!!!!
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Here are some earlier pics of Lycoris sprengeri in the Rock garden 2 weeks ago
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And Lycoris incarnata a week before that
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cheers
fermi
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Wow Fermi,
They really look marvelous. Lycoris sprengeri has been on my wishlist for some time. Do you know an address where I can obtain them? Do they set seeds? I believe a lot of Lycoris do not set seeds.
Cheers, Rob
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The species other than squamigera mostly set seeds in the garden here -- chinensis, longituba, and sprengeri are hardy here in central Indiana. Others are hardy here, like x-caldwellii which blooms and incarnata, which does not bloom for me. The problem with chinensis, etc., is that they are very likely to produce hybrid seeds, since they all tend to bloom at the same time each autumn. If you aren't picky about hybrids, remind me in August or September; we will probably have some open-pollinated seeds we can send out.
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Hi Jim,
that would be great. I'll see whatever will grow out of it, luckily I like them all. I will send you a pm.
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We had some rain last Friday, so I have renewed hopes of seeing some Lycoris blooms this year. The time is getting close. Has anyone had Lycoris blooming yet? Our first to bloom will probably be either L. chinensis or L. longituba.
Jim
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My L. squamigera have shot up in the last few days, in the one bed near our front door where they have been getting watered by hand. One or two spikes are starting to come up in the bed with artificial light shade and automatic irrigation (twice weekly). No Lycoris have appeared in any other beds.
Jim
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First Lycoris of the season is in bloom today: L. sanguinea. This is a mini species, much smaller than the others that are hardy here.
Jim
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We had some rain last Friday, so I have renewed hopes of seeing some Lycoris blooms this year. The time is getting close. Has anyone had Lycoris blooming yet? Our first to bloom will probably be either L. chinensis or L. longituba.
Jim
Jim - I just put a big tub outdoors for its recommended August drench as we are to get 30mm tonight and the same on Thursday. It has never bloomed since I got it in about 1974. This year I wintered it in a nearby greenhouse whose ventilation system konked out and it's had on sunny days temperatures of 40-50c. Now if radiata wants heat whilst dormant these bulbs had it, they must think they spent the last 7 months in Oz. If they don't flower this year I'll ship them south.
If you have any spare seeds of hardy Lycoris other than sqaumigera I'd be interested in a pinch as well. ;) Surely there must be one that will fly here.
I fell in love with them in Virginia.
johnw
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OK, I will try to make some Lycoris seeds this year. They are likely to all be hybrids, even if I hand-pollinate many of the flowers. We will at least know the mamas for certain! They will be on chinensis, longituba, and sprengeri.
Most of the chinensis and longituba that I have came straight from the botanic garden in China to Jim Waddick and then to me. They seem to be a mixture of hybrids containing more or less of theses two species. I think the sprengeri are the pure species.
Lycoris seeds (at least of these species) seem to germinate best outdoors in the cold winter weather. I would cover them with a generous layer of mulch.
Jim
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Lycoris sanguinea started blooming a few days ago. Lycoris squamigera started today. The sanguinea that opened first are already a bit sunburned. There are loads of Lycoris scapes up everywhere.
Jim
Edit by maggi: see also this message on next page re naming of this L. sanguinea ...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6912.msg211042#msg211042
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Jim - The L. sanguinea is a stunner, such a lovely colour. You should send it out here, I assure you it will never get sunburned! ;)
johnw
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I have room too- no shortage of potential homes for these Jim ;)
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Wow :o ,Jim,
I hadn't seen L sanguinea before and that L squamigera has a touch of blue at the tips like L sprengeri.
Here in Australia we can only rely on getting seed into the country, importing bulbs is horrendously expensive - fortunately quite a few species are on the allowed list we just have to wait for the seed to appear on the lists! ;D
cheers
fermi
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I'll try self-pollinating these L. sanguinea, but just now the stigmas look pretty dry. Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Jim
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Here is a hybrid of something with Lycoris longituba. My best guess is that it had a grandfather that was L. sprengeri. I've labeled it "Blue" but it is not really blue in the flesh, perhaps rather just very faintly tinted lavender. I think it's time I put a unique accessions number on this one, at the very least. Note that its buds show some nice sprengeri-like red coloration on the outside.
Jim
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I do see the "blue" in there, Jim. Very smart looking flower indeed. 8)
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Jim, Amazing plants and a very nice longituba crossing. You must have a wonderful garden now.
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Very impresive Jim, Congratulations!
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Barry Yinger has pointed out to me that my sanguinea is var. kiusiana: longer flowers (7-9 cm vs. 5-6 cm), exserted (vs. inserted) anthers. I missed that somewhere along the line, but then I've never seen typical sanguinea. I would like to get a couple bulbs of L. sanguinea sanguinea sometime, if anyone knows a source.
I am trying to (self-)pollinate these sanguinea kiusiana blooms.
Jim
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Jim - What an unusual colour on the longituba hybrid. Sensational and looks to be very happy with you.
johnw
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A spot of Lycoris squamigera color by the garage.....
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A spot of Lycoris squamigera color by the garage.....
I'm impressed by a garage area that is so well decorated, Jim! I like your new avatar, also.... very cheery!
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The new image came from a research field trip last year with a group of science students at my alma mater, DePauw University. Spending a day with a bunch of enthusiastic people 50+ years younger than me is always lots of fun!
Jim
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That's even better, it has good memories attached to its taking. 8)
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Lycoris chinensis and the regular (white) L. longituba have both come into bloom. Both are spring-foliage types and quite hardy here in central Indiana, USDA zone 5.
Jim
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Very nice Jim!
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Here is one of my best clones of Lycoris sprengeri, my #703.A. The sprengeri are just getting into full bloom here.
Jim
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Jim,
I find it odd that yours look like they are just beginning, but the only species I have left to flower here is L. radiata. A single yellowish longituba is on its last stem currently.
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two new to bloom
Lycoris shaanxiensis? and L. elsiae
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Hi Aaron,
I assume mine were delayed in flowering by our period of drought through most of July. Some things happen around Gatlinburg at only slightly earlier dates than they do here in Indiana.
Jim
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What magic Jim!
johnw
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Jim,
That 703A form of sprengerii is a beauty, Jim. Great colour blend. That garage clump is darn impressive too. ;D
Alessandro, I like that shaanxiensis?. Lovely pale flower.
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This is a hybrid that came from China by way of Jim Waddick: Lycoris [longituba x rosea]. I think it's the best pink lycoris I've seen.
Jim
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Jim,
That hybrid reminds me of Nerine, such a beautiful plant with wispy flowers!
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two new to bloom
Lycoris shaanxiensis? and L. elsiae
Are these planted in the ground Alessandro?
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Lycoris caldwellii is just starting to bloom here in my garden. This one came to me from the Shanghai Botanic Garden in China by way of Jim Waddick in about 2000. It is growing in heavy shade, which may be why the color looks washed out -- it should be a delicate primrose yellow -- and this clump of three bulbs does not seem to have increased at all in 10 years.
Jim
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Jim,
You have so many nice Lycoris species, I especially love your blue longituba hybrids, I would love a bulb if you'd ever wanna share ;)
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A friend of mine gave me Lycoris x houdyshelii bulbs 2 month ago and now they are blooming in a pot :)
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Hello Tatsuo, it's a long time since we heard from you.... I hope the summer has gone well for you and your plants. These Lycoris look very good.... they are such photogenic flowers.
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YT,
nice to see you're back on the forum...and such a stunning Lycoris to start with!
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Hello, Maggi and Wim :) Nice to see you again! Don't you know that I'm a kind of summer dormant bulb? ;D The summer looks staying here even now, the max temperature today was 33C.
Another lycoris in the pictures here taken on 2nd August is Lycoris 'Blue Pearl'.
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Don't you know that I'm a kind of summer dormant bulb? ;D
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Another lycoris in the pictures here taken on 2nd August is Lycoris 'Blue Pearl'.
This one looks unreal, almost fluorescent!
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Hello, Maggi and Wim :) Nice to see you again! Don't you know that I'm a kind of summer dormant bulb? ;D The summer looks staying here even now, the max temperature today was 33C.
Another lycoris in the pictures here taken on 2nd August is Lycoris 'Blue Pearl'.
Is this a form or hybrid of sprengeri? It is quite striking!
Jim
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These are lovely Tatsuo. :D
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Thanks, Wim, Jim and PeterT :) It is said that L. 'Blue Pearl' parentage is L. sprengeri x L. chinensis or L. longituba. I'm a Lycoris begginer so you'll find more details about L. 'Blue Pearl' here.
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~lycoris/taxonomy-cultivar-3.html
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Tatsuo,
that's a wonderful website! :o I'd not realised there were so many incredible Lycoris hybrids!
Just beautiful, thanks! Your pics are great, too.
cheers
fermi
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It's a real pleasure to look at all your plants pics. I was not very interested in Lycoris but now I'm discovering all these forms I become a little envious ::) :D Thank you all
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Today's Lycoris x houdyshelii, these are the same flowers in my previous post (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6912.msg214471#msg214471) 8)
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Amazing transformation! :o
cheers
fermi
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That makes me wish x-houdyshelii did better here. In my garden, it survives but has never bloomed. The only Lycoris still in bloom here are a couple caldwellii and the 'Sky Over Sky'.
Jim
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http://www.bulbnrose.org/Amaryllis/Beaton1853.pdf
I was reading this document which suggests that Lycoris aurea will not flower if it is kept too long in growth, without a summer rest.