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Seedy Subjects! => Grow From Seed => Topic started by: johnw on March 13, 2011, 02:06:24 PM
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The Podophyllum pleianthum seedlings, sown in October of 2009, are already growing fast and furiously under lights. Shown are communal pots they did not get separated last year. The sheen on the leaves is extraordinary. The colour is off as they are under sodium lights making them difficult to photograph, apologies.
johnw
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john....wonderful!!!
i am wondering where the seedlings were between germination and now?
my own (from 2009 as well) are still out in the cold (in the unheated barn).
can't wait to see them looking like yours.
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John, Congratulations! Hope you are luckier than I have been! When planting out in the garden all Podophyllums save two have been eaten by slugs :'(
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John, Congratulations! Hope you are luckier than I have been! When planting out in the garden all Podophyllums save two have been eaten by slugs :'(
Hoy - This is very strange as we have all manner of slugs here, from banana-size to the dreadful tiny beige ones and I have never seen a Podophylllum attacked outdoors, not even a tiny bite.
Kristl - The seedlings were kept at about +5c all winter. Some have never shut down though they grew extremely slowly until the past few weeks - P. pleianthum and hybrids thereof and delavay and hybrids therof are extremely vigorous. P. mariei, aurantiocaule and ssp. are growing more sensibly, just merging now with one leaf. They are all circa 12-13 months old. P. difforme is still dormant or in purgatory.
johnw
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John
they look very good. My plants are bursting through now and more of the seedlings are appearing every day as spring moves on.I was worried as to whether they would come through the winter but so far they seem fine
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Love those beautiful golden - not to say gilded - forms John. ;D ;D
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John
they look very good. My plants are bursting through now and more of the seedlings are appearing every day as spring moves on.I was worried as to whether they wolud come through the winter but so far they seem fine
Tony - Some of last year's non-sprouters are coming up here as well. It will be interesting to see how pleianthum and delavayi have fared after being frozen stiif in the ground since January. They came through fine last year with much the same scenario so here' hoping. They do tend to come up perilously early even here. I wonder how tolerant they are of late frosts -mercifully not common here since the last great one of 1981. We are lucky right here in this part of Halifax as very cool nights tend to hold things like Magnolias back.
Spitting snow at -1c.
johnw
johnw
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Wow, John, I can't believe these big plants are that young!
Still I was amazed about the size of the buds when I repotted my pleianthums (in their 3rd yr.) recently. The ones that sprouted early are in a little greenhouse outside now and develop nicely, though some are still less colorful than I had expected - I wonder if patterns will develope later?
These are the first three seedlings of "Spotty Dotty" in their 2nd yr, a pot full of delavayi x ? (also very green, although some patterned ones start to develop now) and a beautiful form of pleianthum (?). This one was inside for the winter and grew all the time without dormancy....a delight!
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Michael
what did you cross with Spotty Dotty to get seed as I understand it will not self pollinate? I do not grow this particular plant so have no experience of its seedlings.
We have had a warm spell and more of my seedlings are now coming up daily. I have only occasional problems with slugs eating holes in the leaves mostly late in the season.
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Mickey and John its interesting to hear that Podophyllums are happy to tick on slowly without a really cold dormancy and manage to keep leaves on inside through winter.. . Maybe some Podo's sp dont need the dormancy??
I too have seedlings and with autumn settling in here and with cold nights of 9c, I think I will give them a try inside before they completly shut down but if one can keep them growing inside over winter imagine how fast these plants will progress to adults.
I also have a couple of mature difforme in pots and moving them into more direct afternoon sun and with the added warmth they seem to have put on some more leaves later in the growing season, rather than keeping them in cool shade where they didnt really do much.
cheers
Stephen
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Mickey - We do tend to put alot of different fertilizers in our Podo mixes - things like slow release, bloodmeal, potash, superphosphate, a bit of bonemeal, gypsum, seaweed flakes and magnesium sulphate so we may be pushing them hard. The mix is quite woodsy. Still yours look perfectly fine, markings may take awhile to show themselves. Good pleianthums are hard to beat.
In very late 2009 we propagated a good & very tall P. pleianthum by root cuttings and noticed today they are going to flower. We were shocked.
Stephen - Good to see you posting again. We have tried difforme but they come up and collapse. Do you have any secrets or obseervations on that one? Hopefully Robin will have seed to sell one year soon.
johnw
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Hi Tony,
I used pollen of P. versipelle (at least a plant I bought with that name) and of delavayi to pollinate Spotty Dotty, maybe even hexandrum roseum but I'm not sure any more. I marked the flowers with the names of the pollen parents, but as Spotty Dotty is not very fertile with me (maybe two or three seeds per fruit) I planted them all into one pot to see what comes out.
John,
Thank you for the advice concerning fertilizer - I should be more agressive here! Could you teach me a little bit more about Podophyllum propagation via root cuttings? Would be great!
I've seen Podophyllums sprout from roots that were left in the ground while the mother plant was transplanted, but I've not yet tried root cuttings - and I'd love to!
Thank you!
Michael
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Hi John,
ive been busy establishing a new garden/house...
Why does difforme collapse for you?....I find tihis one easy to grow.Original plants came from China.
I grow them in pots in a barky/sandy/coco fibre/clinkker mix and I fed with soluable general fertilizer under eucalyptus trees in broken light/shade with some afternoon sun. Plenty of moisture in summer.
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First of all on the subject of winter dormancy I find in the garden they all go dormant at the first frost but I have a pleianthum in a pot in a frame which got to -7c this winter and it has kept its leaves.
When I first bought my plants from China they came with old pieces of rhizome attached. Fearing this might rot I cut of the growing area with its new roots but seeing the remaining rhizome was still firm I potted it up. A further plant developed and was again cut off and this was repeated several times. This also worked for Helleborus thibetanus.
On one of the old pieces a plantlet then grew on a root as the attached picture shows. I only discovered this on its repotting as described above. Although not easily visible a second plant is developing on another root. I have commented before that several plants in the garden are producing offsets a foot or more from the parent plant another easy method of propagation.
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Hi John,
Why does difforme collapse for you?....I find tihis one easy to grow.Original plants came from China.
Stephen - If you look back at old threads you will see others have the same problem with difforme. Philip in Vancouver has the same problem, they come up in the Spring quickly die and sometimes try again in early autumn but the same thing happens.
Coincidentally Tony mentioned Helleborus thibetanus and we experience the same thing with it. In the early days we can safely blame viral infection from original Chinese plants received. However seedlings are doing much the same and we have not a single survivor to date.
Good luck with the new house & garden, we are just halfway through renos including re-wiring which was an absolute horror. Four evenings to clean the living-room alone and 4 more rooms to go - then the electricians return to decimate the basement.
johnw
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Can I use Podophyllum difformis pollen for Podophyllum Spotty Dotty flowers ; each one has flowers buds at this time :D
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yes it is worth trying. If one plant several days flowers before the other you can store the pollen in the fridge until the second plant is ready,hopefully they will flower together
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A few less golden photos of the 2010 Podophyllum sprouters today for Lesley.
johnw
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Dear John,
Would you mind letting me know how you proceeded in growing root cuttings of Podophyllum? Would be great!
Thank you!
Michael
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Michael - We simply repotted old roots with a bit of the eyeless old rhizome attached. I don't know if the old rhizome is essential or not. When we move a pleianthum outdoors oftentimes shoots will come the next next year but I'm not certain what's taking place underground.
There must be a forumist out there who has taken a more reasoned approach to propagating them this way....
johnw
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Michael - We simply repotted old roots with a bit of the eyeless old rhizome attached. I don't know if the old rhizome is essential or not. When we move a pleianthum outdoors oftentimes shoots will come the next next year but I'm not certain what's taking place underground.
There must be a forumist out there who has taken a more reasoned approach to propagating them this way....
johnw
Michael one of my podophyllums ran under the lawn and produced a couple of small plants which even survived the mower before being lifted and sited elsewhere
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Thank you Tony, and I can say your seedlings are pushing up new leaves ;)
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Tony thats an interesting photo of vegetative propagation, roots deveploping buds and leaves. Like Anemone x hybrida and comfrey do this. Should try pruning the roots off the rhyzome and see if it produces buds??
John I grow H thibetanus as well, from a source in Tasmania, seeds from the U.k and seeds from my own plants and all doing well for 4 yrs in pots and now in the ground this spring...no wilting experianced and flowered too. See how they go next season. Will read the old threads...cheers
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Dear John & Ian,
Thank you!
I think I'll try cutting some of the roots and leave them in the ground to see what happens - at Juergen Peters' nursery at Hamburg I saw a large area where many plants of P. pleianthum or versipelle sprouted. Mr. Peters said they had replanted a large plant and from the roots that remained in the ground masses od new plants grew.
I'm just not sure of it's best cutting roots and leaving them in the ground or cutting and potting them. Think I'll try the first (lazy) way :-).
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There must be a forumist out there who has taken a more reasoned approach to propagating them this way....
johnw
Whoops, I seemed to have missed the photo Tony posted. Michael, this is exactly how we propagated the pleianthums although Tony was more generous with the piece of old rhizome.
johnw
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I have been keeping quiet as the Podophyllums I have grown from seed, and the young seedlings I was given last year, both from kind forumists ;D ;D have been outside in the dreadful (for us) winter we have just had. I was spending the morning rooting out chickweed and veronica when I noticed Spotty Dotty was through. I thought I had better bite the bullet and see what had happened to the others and am pleased and delighted to report that they are all pushing through, I therfore pronounce them hardy in the East of England 8) 8) Thanks John and Ian.
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I have been keeping quiet as the Podophyllums I have grown from seed, and the young seedlings I was given last year, both from kind forumists ;D ;D have been outside in the dreadful (for us) winter we have just had. I was spending the morning rooting out chickweed and veronica when I noticed Spotty Dotty was through. I thought I had better bite the bullet and see what had happened to the others and am pleased and delighted to report that they are all pushing through, I therfore pronounce them hardy in the East of England 8) 8) Thanks John and Ian.
Brian did you thank me ???
I would have been delighted to send you some seed but my plants flower but never seem to set seed. Perhaps you meant Tony Willis. I know he spends a lot of time with his paint brush
regards
Ian
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Good gracious me, my apologies to Tony - of course I did mean him, I was overcome with the excitement ::) They were small seedlings and I thought they had gone the way of a lot of things...my callistemon is no more, I was really pleased to see them. Sorry about that Tony, a moment of mental aberration - something that seems to be happening more and more :-[
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here are some pictures of some of my seedlings which germinated last year.These are the same as the ones I sent to various people.
The first is mairei which are all bright green and the second is delavayi. These are a lovely deep colour which does not show on the photograph and will develop better as they mature. I have followed with two pictures of the parents. The first a plant from China and the second one from my own seed.
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Lovely markings on that dark delavayi Tony.
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Your mairei are up here too Tony, in abundance 8)
Beautiful delavayi forms; the progeny should be worth the wait.
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about 3 years ago i purchase P.mairei from Paul Christian rare plants
attached is an image of what they have grown to
i'm wondering if they really are mairei ?
(http://www.strever.com/picts/002-mairei_1975.JPG)
(http://www.strever.com/picts/002-mairei_2009.JPG)
Dick
No.Calif. amongst the Redwoods
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about 3 years ago i purchase P.mairei from Paul Christian rare plants
attached is an image of what they have grown to
i'm wondering if they really are mairei ?
Dick
No.Calif. amongst the Redwoods
Dick - I'm afraid you have straight P. delavayi there.
johnw
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Lovely ones Tony. Do you think one can tell by the second year's first flush which delavayis are the keepers? Have noticed a few that are very dark here. With so many recipients of your seed you surely must be Johnny Mayappleseed!
johnw
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I have been keeping quiet....
It's okay now Brian. With Maggi away we can all go hog wild on the Forum.
johnw
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I have been keeping quiet....
It's okay now Brian. With Maggi away we can all go hog wild on the Forum.
johnw
I heard that.......
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about 3 years ago i purchase P.mairei from Paul Christian rare plants
attached is an image of what they have grown to
i'm wondering if they really are mairei ?
http://www.strever.com/picts/002-mairei_1975.JPG
http://www.strever.com/picts/002-mairei_2009.JPG
Dick
No.Calif. amongst the Redwoods
Hello Dick, A warm welcome to you! What a shame about your plants received mis-named.
Happens all too often, I'm afraid. One of the bugbears of us here on the Forum, as you will know!
I'm not seeing your pictures... not sure what has happened to them. :-\
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I'm not seeing your pictures... not sure what has happened to them. :-\
Pictures coming through here very clearly (twice in fact), both in the original post and in the quote by Johnw
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And with that, Diane, they appeared here too....
Must have been your 'fluence ;D
I've taken the repeat from John's post. ;)
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And with that, Diane, they appeared here too....
Must have been your 'fluence ;D
just waved my magic wand 8) 8)
I've taken the repeat from John's post. ;)
the picture hosting site embeds it when the code is posted
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Lovely ones Tony. Do you think one can tell by the second year's first flush which delavayis are the keepers? Have noticed a few that are very dark here. With so many recipients of your seed you surely must be Johnny Mayappleseed!
johnw
John
I was pleased to distribute them particularly as the seed has such a short life and I had such a good crop. The berries are more attractive than the flowers being more visible and as they do not develop properly if not fertilised this means seed.
As to selecting the delavayii,there is no question of weeding them out,I am going to dot them about the border and keep them all!!
I did number the mother plants (three of them) and it is interesting that each plant has produced reasonably uniform coloured seedlings but each of the three is very different ranging from deeply coloured ones to almost green.The leaf shapes however are completely variable across them all but are still at an immature stage for another year or so. I hope that is understandable.
Another delavayi last year produced a white berry with only five seeds and these are germinating and I hope that this will be perpetuated.
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about 3 years ago i purchase P.mairei from Paul Christian rare plants
attached is an image of what they have grown to
i'm wondering if they really are mairei ?
Dick
No.Calif. amongst the Redwoods
Dick welcome ,yes they are delavayii.
what a place to live,we drove down your road in May 2009 after visiting the Jedediah Smith Redwoods,small world ! They should grow well with you with all the rain you get.
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I get much rain too and Podophyllums should do well but slugs do better and consume Podophyllums faster than I can replace them :(
One of the few that has managed to survive is this Podophyllum aurantiocaule (pix from last spring) (Hope it is the right name!)
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Very nice P aurantiocaule...Hoy!
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Tony
wish i had found this site back then
i could have shown you some local sites of interest with some interesting plants
you drove right by me :) and yes they do well here
what a place to live,we drove down your road in May 2009 after visiting the Jedediah Smith Redwoods,small world ! They should grow well with you with all the rain you get.
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Hoy - A nice aurantocaule. Has it survived your bad winter? I seem to have lost all aurantiocaule seedlings here over the winter and they were stored indoors frost-free. It seems to follow in the footsteps of difforme. Do other forumists have similar problems with this aurantiocaule?
In Stern aurantiocaule's winter hardiness was questioned, at least in Britain.
johnw - +16c here yesterday.
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Very nice P aurantiocaule...Hoy!
Thanks, Stephen! I bought it from Glendoick some years ago.
Hoy - A nice aurantocaule. Has it survived your bad winter? I seem to have lost all aurantiocaule seedlings here over the winter and they were stored indoors frost-free. It seems to follow in the footsteps of difforme. Do other forumists have similar problems with this aurantiocaule?
In Stern aurantiocaule's winter hardiness was questioned, at least in Britain.
johnw - +16c here yesterday.
And thank you, John! I am waiting for it - it hasn't surfaced yet but Podophyllums are always late here. I hope it has survived the freezing this winter :-\
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No problems with the hardiness of P. aurantiocaule furfuraceum at least, seedlings survived three weeks of temps down to -20C in the cold frame, with no snow cover. Seedlings of P. delavayi died, ditto for some double hellebores. Our "lady in Beijing" mentioned that her current offering of P. aurantiocaule was sourced in N Vietnam when I was there last fall, so they are presumably less hardy than those from W Yunnan/Tibet.
Hoy; setter den frø, og kunne du tenke deg å bytte bort noen?
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No problems with the hardiness of P. aurantiocaule furfuraceum at least, seedlings survived three weeks of temps down to -20C in the cold frame, with no snow cover. Seedlings of P. delavayi died, ditto for some double hellebores. Our "lady in Beijing" mentioned that her current offering of P. aurantiocaule was sourced in N Vietnam when I was there last fall, so they are presumably less hardy than those from W Yunnan/Tibet.
Hoy; setter den frø, og kunne du tenke deg å bytte bort noen?
Arisaema - Very interesting. Stern indicates ssp. furfuraceum is a bit hardier than ssp. aurantiocaule. As my book is in storage I cannot check to see if the latter also comes from areas in China that have colder winters. Have you tried any ssp. aurantiocaule outdoors?
It is surprising your delavayis died. I wonder if they may re-sprout from the roots. I intend to try a few outdoors soon. I have mentioned in the past that we can grow no genera outdoors with species name delavayi! I have put delavayi pollen on pleianthum so maybe they will be hardy, however none have that remarkable foliage of delavayi itself but they are fertile so maybe a back-cross is in order.
Should you ever want to trade seed....
We have not heard anything from Robin on the forum for a very long time. Hopefully he will return.
johnw
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Judging from the distribution and altitudes listed in Stern's book they should both be quite hardy - and neither should occur as far southeast as Vietnam... ::) I don't grow P. a. ssp. aurantiocaule unfortunately.
P. delavayi appears to have survived the cold outside in the garden, the rhizome is still solid. It's survived some 8 years unprotected, so I'm going to be very annoyed if it doesn't show! The seedlings are completely dead, but they were only a year old.
Remind me of seeds in July, or I could send a small rhizome if you'd like?
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Arisaema - Good to hear the rhizomes of delavayi are sound. I guess I will wait until my delavayi seedlings are larger before I plant them out. I will PM you re: seed, thanks. In the autumn I can send you a delavayi x pleianthum seedling if not too large, they are already up and growing strongly under lights.
(I'm delighted to hear that the delavayi curse may be broken with a Podophyllum!)
When the book surfaces I will have to see which species occur in Vietnam though they will be useless here. Perhaps PhilipMacD has received the same Podophyllum sp. from Beijing and can report back. He is in Taiwan at the moment and then heads on to sw Turkey.
johnw
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> (I'm delighted to hear that the delavayi curse may be broken with a Podophyllum!)
If not then there's always an Incarvillea, a Geranium, an Iris, a Thalictrum, a Philadelphus and a Morina delavayi - all extremely hardy plants ;)
There's one Podophyllum tonkinense (http://www.vncreatures.net/chitiet.php?page=1&loai=2&ID=3161) at least, considered a synonym for P. difforme in FoC and as P. versipelle in Stearn, but it's red flowered. I brought back some gigantic rhizomes from Beijing, so hopefully they'll produce a few flowers later.
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No problems with the hardiness of P. aurantiocaule furfuraceum at least, seedlings survived three weeks of temps down to -20C in the cold frame, with no snow cover. Seedlings of P. delavayi died, ditto for some double hellebores. Our "lady in Beijing" mentioned that her current offering of P. aurantiocaule was sourced in N Vietnam when I was there last fall, so they are presumably less hardy than those from W Yunnan/Tibet.
Hoy; setter den frø, og kunne du tenke deg å bytte bort noen?
I haven't noticed fruits but we are often not home at that time of the year.
Finner jeg frø så bytter jeg gjerne!
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Flott, takk Hoy!
P. delavayi appears to have survived the cold outside in the garden, the rhizome is still solid.
Scratch that, it's dead, all green and mushy :P One more winter like this and I'm emigrating south!
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I crossed delavayi x versipelle in 2009 but so far the best here seems to be this one, the same cross by Philip MacDougall. No doubt he was using his best delavayi.
johnw
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I see this delavayi x versipelle shown above is going to flower. I wonder what the flowers will be like and also wonder if anyone can tell me if viable seeds are produced by these hybrids. It might be worth doing a backcross with delavayi or even an F2 with a sibling.
johnw
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John I have one which is clearly a hybrid with delavayi,other parent not known and it produced viable seed last year when pollinated with delavayi
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John I have one which is clearly a hybrid with delavayi,other parent not known and it produced viable seed last year when pollinated with delavayi
That's good news Tony. I should put delavayi on the hybrid here to see if we can get a delavayi look-alike with extra hardiness. Given Arisaema's loss of all delavayis I think we should prepare for the worst.
johnw
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Hoy - A nice aurantocaule. Has it survived your bad winter? I seem to have lost all aurantiocaule seedlings here over the winter and they were stored indoors frost-free. It seems to follow in the footsteps of difforme. Do other forumists have similar problems with this aurantiocaule?
In Stern aurantiocaule's winter hardiness was questioned, at least in Britain.
johnw - +16c here yesterday.
At last! It has survived the cold freezing winter without snowcover. Plants emerge out of the moss almost ready to flower!
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I posted a photo of my P. delavayi last year and indicated that I had moved it from a raised bed that it was getting too big for and moved it to a large plastic tub. It has survived two very severe winters since moving it. However, that is not the point of this posting. Last year I also showed a photo of a shoot from a root that must have been severed in the move. This year (18months from the move)there are well over a dozen more appearing. I managed to dig half a dozen out and pot them up but most of them are too deep to get at without disturbing the whole bed. I am amazed that there is still life in the old roots. So perhaps if you want to increase your delavayi just put a spade through some of the roots and wait a while.
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Seems a scary move, Graham.... but a bold one, from your experience. :)
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Seems a scary move, Graham.... but a bold one, from your experience. :)
Probably me being naive about what might happen Maggi but it worked. It was taking up a meter of a three meter raised bed and I thought that was too much. I still get the same size plant but somewhere it is managable.
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Hoy - A nice aurantocaule. Has it survived your bad winter? I seem to have lost all aurantiocaule seedlings here over the winter and they were stored indoors frost-free. It seems to follow in the footsteps of difforme. Do other forumists have similar problems with this aurantiocaule?
In Stern aurantiocaule's winter hardiness was questioned, at least in Britain.
johnw - +16c here yesterday.
At last! It has survived the cold freezing winter without snowcover. Plants emerge out of the moss almost ready to flower!
Trond you a are just a little behind mine which is now flowering
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At last! It has survived the cold freezing winter without snowcover. Plants emerge out of the moss almost ready to flower!
Hoy - What was the low temperature that your aurantiocaule survived? The frosty hairs on the new leaves are spectacular.
Here the delavayi x versipelle has fully flushed now after a very wet April (120mm+) and a few warm night and huge rains the past few days.
johnw
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after a very wet April (120mm+) and a few warm night and huge rains the past few days.
How nice, the last day it rained here was 23rd February!
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after a very wet April (120mm+) and a few warm night and huge rains the past few days.
How nice, the last day it rained here was 23rd February!
Brian - It always amuses and at the same time frustrates me when the locals say the climate of England is wet, grey and foggy. Here the average is more than an inch of rain a week (never quite works out that way) and 120 days of fog. Summers here are certainly much cooler at night especially along the coast. The maples are barely in flower here and unlike inland it will awhile before the trees flush out due to very cool nights.
johnw
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In Devon it often is wet, grey and foggy ::)
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In Devon it often is wet, grey and foggy ::)
Wet is putting it mildly David. The last time I was there it was stair rods.
johnw
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How nice, the last day it rained here was 23rd February!
Same here and it still is!!! ::)
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Podophyllum versipelle in friends' garden today.
Surprising their tiny delavayi seedlings from Green Mile seed have survived the winter which gives hope.
johnw
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At last! It has survived the cold freezing winter without snowcover. Plants emerge out of the moss almost ready to flower!
Hoy - What was the low temperature that your aurantiocaule survived? The frosty hairs on the new leaves are spectacular.
Here the delavayi x versipelle has fully flushed now after a very wet April (120mm+) and a few warm night and huge rains the past few days.
johnw
The lowest I noticed here was -16C.
This is the record from last year at the met observation station a little further inland: (We had no snow cover here, the met station had some and they had more rain than here)
(http://fil.nrk.no/yr/grafikk/klima/aar/aar_046910_nob.png)
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Some Podophyllums flowering at the moment in our woodland garden:
Podophyllum x inexpectatum (P.pleianthum x P. peltatum)
Podophyllum mairei
Podophyllum delavayi
Podophyllum pleianthum
Podophyllum aurantiocaule subsp. aurantiocaule
Podophyllum "spotty dotty"
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Wow, what a variation between the flowers, they are wonderful plants Robin.
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I absolutely agree with Brian. I hope you will photograph and show them later when they are in fruit, or as many as set some. :D
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Robin, I have to collect more Podophyllums! All my plants are white or light pink. I need some red ones too ;D - if the slugs allow!
My auranthiocaule is in full bloom now.
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That is very beautiful Trond, so light and airy. :)
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That is very beautiful Trond, so light and airy. :)
Thanks Lesley! But I have to lie down on my stomach under some shrubs to get that view!