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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
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Okay 'drop fiends... here's a question for you......
which snowdrop is shortish, good chunky flower, two on a stem, plicate leaves, and with markings a bit like 'Grumpy' or 'Hans guck in die luft'?
Photo later..... if you're good! ;D
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Okay 'drop fiends... here's a question for you......
which snowdrop is shortish, good chunky flower, two on a stem, plicate leaves, and with markings a bit like 'Grumpy' or 'Hans guck in die luft'?
Percy Picton?
Maidwell C?
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Percy Picton?
Maidwell C?
Never had those.
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The ovary is around 10mm long, straight sided and pale green.
The outers are 3cms long, quite full with a short claw which is around 4 to 5 mmm at most
The inner marks are distinct from eachother, no bleeding with the "eye" marks being rather long and narrow ( imaging the ovary shape rather) and the "moustache" mark is a strong green, rounded and well drawn at the lower edge and sharply angular to a triangle top.
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The ovary is around 10mm long, straight sided and pale green.
The outers are 3cms long, quite full with a short claw which is around 4 to 5 mmm at most
The inner marks are distinct from eachother, no bleeding with the "eye" marks being rather long and narrow ( imaging the ovary shape rather) and the "moustache" mark is a strong green, rounded and well drawn at the lower edge and sharply angular to a triangle top.
For Myself I would just name it Margaret Young that's what everyone else does ;)
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For Myself I would just name it Margaret Young that's what everyone else does ;)
That's not my style, Ian.... ;D
I am sure this 'drop does have a name already.... just need to find what it is.
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Here are a couple of pix.... you'll see that it is not long out of the ground....more growth to go yet in leaves and stems but it will still be on the chunky side.
Can't quite see the "eye" spots properly but they are linear rather than round splodges........
in the photos there looks to be more "bleeding" in the marks than is caught be the naked eye where they appear completely separate :-\
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slugs like it also.
Is this in your garden? If it isnt Percy I'll swap with ya
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It is in the garden, yes.
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Have you ever owned Ispahan Maggi?
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No, I haven't, Sean.
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Percy Picton
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Isobel Blakeway-Philips? Ovary right but leaves should be flat. ???
I too thought Ispahan.
johnw
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Never heard of or seen Isobel Blakeway-Philips or Ispahan.
Percy again this evening and I now see the ovary is different
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Never heard of or seen Isobel Blakeway-Philips or Ispahan.
Mark - both of them are in 'Snowdrops' ::)
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Maggi this may be too obvious (dumb?) but do you keep a list of snowdrops you have? The assembled experts might stand a better chance with a list to eliminate from?
Chris
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No list, Chris :-[
I just thought that this would be a distinctive 'drop that might lend itself to an easy ID....... :-X
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I think Maggi is playing with us ;) ;)
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Are you sure its not a gift from Ian Christie? It looks like it comes from a castle area!
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Are you sure its not a gift from Ian Christie? It looks like it comes from a castle area!
Gerard we have quite a lot of snowdrops from the Castle series from Ian C and from the castle from the "other" Ian Christie ( of the castle), but we couldn't remember if this was one of those or not!
Ian has a similar plant in the Castle series, but it is not the same.
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I cannot quite convince myself from the picture that the two flowers really are on the same stem but if it does that from one year to the next then only a tiny number of snowdrops have this characteristic.
Mark, it really looks nothing like Percy Picton because it does not have the elongated pedicel that is characteristic of Percy.
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Yes, two flowers on one stem... and there are other stems coming with two flowers also.
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Alan, Percy doesnt have a long pedicel when it first breaks free from the spathe.
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Yes, I guess that's true Mark, although as the flower matures the pedicel gets very long indeed.
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Maggi - Please re-name this thread "quizz for the now sleepless galanthophiles......". ;) Have you been into Photoshop again?
johnw
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Yes, I guess that's true Mark, although as the flower matures the pedicel gets very long indeed.
Yes it does.
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Maggi - Please re-name this thread "quizz for the now sleepless galanthophiles......". ;) Have you been into Photoshop again?
johnw
Wash your mouth out, John...... as if I would ?
(Yes yes, I there was that incident with the fake Nerine a couple of years ago, but that's all in the past ;D)
I promise you, this 'drop is quite real and natural... it is a most lovely thing.
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For Myself I would just name it Margaret Young that's what everyone else does ;)
If everyone does it - just how many Galanthus 'Margaret Young's are there already? ;D
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For Myself I would just name it Margaret Young that's what everyone else does ;)
If everyone does it - just how many Galanthus 'Margaret Young's are there already? ;D
You will probably have to wait for the new book John. I understand it is expected to be about about 1 foot (30cm) thick ;D ;D
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and as soon as the new testament is published matt will have to start again
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... and the answer is?
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Don't ask me.... I'm the one looking for an answer!
It's a real cracker, that's for sure!
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Its Green Necklace!
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I know the noo.
It's a selection, yes please ;), of plicatus found by possibly Catherine Erskine or more likely Ian Christie. I first saw this when I gave a talk at Cambo.
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It's not from Cambo.
Not one of Ian the Christie's finds either.
Turns out it was one Ian Y found and Ian Christie the Second kind gave him from the Castle.
The plot thickens because on closer inspection in better weather there are different marking = on the flowers... from bulb to bulb in the little group and even from one inner to another on one flower!
More research needed over some years, the BD reckons, to see what is going on with this little cutie.
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maybe it was a seedling group. It would be best to lift and divide and put all those that are the same together.
Or do you mean the main flower is different to the smaller second flower?
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Hi Mark, all, just thought I should join in so here are some more pictures??, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Hi posted wrong picture Ian.
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plicatus twins seen at Cambo in 2006