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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: mark smyth on February 24, 2011, 07:59:07 PM

Title: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2011, 07:59:07 PM: Apologies if I asked this question before. Does anyone know this blue flowered bulb?
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: bulborum on February 24, 2011, 08:03:29 PM: Does it have purple black bulbs

it looks like Scilla cilicica

Roland
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2011, 08:03:41 PM: They have been out about two weeks with more flower stems just coming up
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 24, 2011, 08:04:08 PM: Roland I will look tomorrow.
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: Gabriel B on February 24, 2011, 10:50:05 PM: Looks just like Siberian squill (Scilla siberica), which is quite commonly grown here, since it's as hardy as a rock and spreads quickly by seed, but it might be another squill (Scilla) species — I don't know how to tell apart all the blue nodding ones. Siberian squill usually has fewer flowers per stalk than in the photo (1-3), but that's not an absolute rule — big older bulbs can have 20 flowers, sometimes 5 per stalk.
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: Paul T on February 25, 2011, 06:39:22 AM: Mark,

Definitely a Scilla species, and definitely does resemble Scilla sibirica. There are a lot of these to us uninitiated that look the same. My first thought was hohenhackeri, but their flowers reflex more than the ones in your pic (same for greilhuberi). I'd be leaning towards sibirica, but I am most definitely no expert. ::)
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 25, 2011, 03:35:23 PM: The flowers are too fine to be S. sibirica.

I just tried to get a bulb out. They have gone deep in the soil. They need to be divided so I will know then

~~unknown to the left~~. The camera doesnt show true colors. I can use my RHS colour chart if it helps?
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: bulborum on February 25, 2011, 04:23:59 PM: Mark

where did you find or buy them
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 25, 2011, 04:25:56 PM: opps wrong photo above.

I must have bought them. The label must be under bulbs
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: bulborum on February 25, 2011, 04:33:03 PM: For me they are to pale for Scilla siberica
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 25, 2011, 04:43:01 PM: The colour for both is RHS Colour Chart Violet-Blue 95C

Thanks for trying
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Post by: bulborum on February 26, 2011, 01:50:30 PM: Hello Mark

I posted here the picture from Scilla cilicica

Scilla cilicica (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6583.msg189170#msg189170)

Roland
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on February 26, 2011, 02:15:29 PM: Thanks it looks correct.
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: bulborum on February 26, 2011, 02:24:32 PM: They are easy to recognise with dry bulbs
as dry bulbs they have an almost black tunica
and they are more flat like Cyclamen graecum
not as flat as C. ciliticum
S. siberica has dark blue bulbs

Roland
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2011, 02:05:41 PM: I'm embarrassed to say I asked for the ID of this bulb either last year or the year before and I never labelled it. It's flowering again just now but what is it?

The bulb is white and long
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: gote on April 04, 2011, 11:41:17 AM: Quote from: bulborum on February 25, 2011, 04:33:03 PM
For me they are to pale for Scilla siberica
Scilla siberica can be quite variable. Some variations are definitely as light as these.
That does not make sure they are siberica. Not being a Scilla expert I would have assumed them to be that if I had found them somewhere.
However, If I found them in Mark's garden I would assume something more exotic. ;)
Göte
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: gote on April 04, 2011, 12:51:08 PM: I dug up a picture of some lighte S siberica that I had put aside. These are self sown seedlings.
Göte
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 01:07:03 PM: Mark, I've got Scilla reverchonii and that foliage looks a bit like the same as mine. Here's my reverchonii
Title: Re: blue flowered bulb for ID
Post by: tonyg on April 04, 2011, 01:55:35 PM: Pretty sure it is Scilla reverchonii. Looks like the plant I saw at Eric Jarretts under that name. Makes a beefy clump, in a sunny spot in Gloucestershire it had impressive, dense flowered spikes of bloom.