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Title: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 13, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
I decided to finely post some pictures from the trip to Sikkim I did last year.
At the end of september/begining of october I had the opportunity to visit Sikkim for 3 weeks. This late in the season there are still a lot of interesting plants to be seen.    
I will start with some landscapes..

Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: ashley on February 13, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
Very interesting Johan; I look forward to seeing more 8)

Did you do this trip independently or go with an organised group?
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 13, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
Over all we had really nice weather. Maybe one or two days with rain but mostly sun..
Here are some plants from Yumthang valley

1- Primula denticulata
2- Roscoea auriculata
3- Pleurospermum aff. candollei
4- Crawfurdia sp
5- Arisaema in fruit
6- Corydalis juncea
7- Primula dickieana
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 13, 2011, 09:08:32 PM
Hi Ashley,

It was just me and two friends, plus guide and driver. We made out the plans for our rout more or less ourselves and our guide arranged with transport and accommodation etc. So besides the local guide which you must have with you at all times we felt absolutely independent:-)
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 13, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
Here are some more... A lot of nice berries in nice colors..

1- Cyrtomium macrophyllum (together with Swedish tobacco box for size comparson;D)
2- Gaultheria aff. hookeri
3- Ophiopogon sp
4- Thalictrum aff. reniforme
5- Spiranthes sinensis
6- Tsuga/Abies forest
7- Paris aff. polyphylla
8- Paris aff.violacea
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 13, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
...just some more berries before I move on to more flowering plants  ;)

Berberis sp
Euonymus sp
Panax pseudo-ginseng X2
Podohyllum hexandrum
Rosa aff. macrophylla
Tripterospermum sp
Ephedra gerardiana
Zanthoxylum sp

The last picture has nothing to do with berries. It shows leach and finger, both filled with my blood.. :o >:(
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: ian mcenery on February 13, 2011, 11:15:02 PM
Great pictures Johan. Love the Paris in seed and the scenery. Great to see plants in the wild or is it still wilderness thanks
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 13, 2011, 11:36:33 PM
Thanks for posting this super series of pictures Johan.  What a wonderful time you must have had, great to see these plants in the wild.
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: cohan on February 14, 2011, 12:12:49 AM
Good to see these!
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 14, 2011, 09:46:53 AM
I made my first trip to Sikkim in October 2007 and I also visited the area in May/June 2009. So this trip that I am posting from now is the third in order. This means a lot of things. First it is amazing to return to a certain place that you have visited before. You have a lot of old memories that is coming back to you. Then there is always some peak that you wanted to look behind or some hillside that you just wanted to explore that you did not get around to on the first trip. On a second/third trip you get to know the habitats of things which means that you also see a lot more plants. Also seeing plants in their habitat at different time of the year of course gives you alot of understanding about them. So there is a lot of good things about returning....
there is of course some bad things as well. In October 2007, we were completely alone in north Sikkim and Yumthang valley. Last year it was crowded of mostly Indian tourist. Well, there are only a few of them who are actually tracking, most of them just go to certain scenery's, waterfalls, viewpoints and take pictures of them self's. Then they also dump a lot of garbadge/trash into the nature.  >:( Sorry about the negativity here, I got all agitated thinking about how we saw tourists without any respect throwing rubbish into nature. In general the people we met were fantastic!
But the place did not feel as wild now as it did in 2007. But it was enough if you just went for 5 minutes away from the main road to get the feeling of some wilderness.
Sikkim is covered with protected and restricted areas where you are not allowed to go. You can sometimes get permits for the protected areas, but not for the restricted (or was it the other way around?). I guess that a lot of the wilderness is getting protected in this way too. As long as there is a threat from China (bordering Sikkim in the north), the protected/restricted areas will remain.   ::) :-\ :-X
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 14, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
here is some more...

Abies spectabilis- with its very atractive blue cones
Aconitum aff. volubile
Astragalus donianus
Asarum himalaicum var. tibeticum
Rhododendron cinnabarinum blandfordiforme
Rhododendron thomsonii
Saxifraga sp
Rhodiola chrysanthemifolia
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 14, 2011, 04:38:01 PM
Well, here are some more pictures from higher altitudes..
The roads were somtimes in terrible shape. Here we had to wait for a while for the road to be fixed.
2. Looking north from Tanguu, into tibet. No westerners are aloude to enter this valley..
3 Bergenia purpurascens
4 Lomanthogonium sp
5 Aconitum aff. hookerii
6 Aster aff. diplostephioides
7 Cassiope fastigiata
8-9 Cremanthodium aff oblongatum
10 Gentiana sp
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 14, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
this,, my last once for tonight,,

Pterosephalum hookerii
Adrosace sp
Cortiella aff. hookerii
Saussurea sp
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Hjalmar on February 15, 2011, 08:16:31 AM
Great pictures Johan! I liked the leaves of Panax pseudo-ginseng and also that delicate Spiranthes. Hope I'll have a chance to hear you talk about your trip.

You forgot to mention exactly how enormously huge Swedish snuff boxes are, probably not everyone is aware of that!
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 15, 2011, 10:40:24 AM
Thanks guys for your encouraging words! It was indeed a wonderful trip and fantastic to see these plants in the wild.

Hjalmar,
I also think that the Panax is great. It varied a lot, from leaves like this, 'really deeply lobed' and to ones with no lobed leaved at all. All having this red-black berries.

Yes, I should definitely have explained more about the Swedish Snuff box.;) Apologies to everyone who is not familiar with the Swedish Snuff boxes.  The box has just been measured and it is 7cm i diameter and 2.5 cm thick.

Attaching an old picture (from 2009) of a snuff box together with a Arisaema griffithii.

& Meconopsis simplicifolia with the box


Johan
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 15, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
Here are some more plants from real high altitudes. The Saussureas are growing in scree at almost 5000 meters.


Rhodiola sp
Rheum nobile
Saussurea gossypiphora
Eriophyton wallichii
Tanacetum gossypinum (Hyppolytia gossypina)
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 15, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
Very interesting report Johan !!
Thanks for showing !!  8)
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: cohan on February 15, 2011, 07:02:45 PM
Wonderful plants!
Love the Saussureas esp!
The Rhodiola--is that the foliage that is red?
Is this a dry area?
Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: Johan Nilson on February 15, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Aren't the Saussureas great, looking like little aliens/ghosts. ;)
Yes the Rhodiola is the beautiful red cushion. I am guessing that it could be Rhodiola coccinea.
Posting a closeup..

I would say that for being Sikkim this was a rather dry area. But still not completely dry. On the north facing slope where we found the Saussurea gossypiphora there was still some humidity. You can see the wet rocks in the center of pic2. Guess that the drainage is absolutely perfect.

Another Saussurea for you..
at 4000 m with its feet in running water we were lucky to see Saussurea obvallata (pic 3) in good shape.  

Title: Re: Sikkim 2010
Post by: cohan on March 12, 2011, 08:18:33 AM
I suppose those are tricky conditions in the garden unless your climate co-operates: perfect drainage, but never dry!

thanks for the Rhodiola images--very nice! I like Crassulaceae, but many Rhodiolas I have seen seem to have rather tall narrow stems, I like this lower shape better, and the colour!
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