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Title: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: LucS on February 06, 2011, 07:34:13 AM
In the rockgarden spring is definitely coming with this adonis amurensis.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 06, 2011, 11:01:23 AM
Wow Luc, great clump of them.  I always wonder if they look so spectacular in real life, or whether the emphasis in a photo makes them stronger.  I often see photos of things I take in my garden and see all sorts of details and beauty that I don't see in the garden when viewing them...... I'm wondering how much of this happens with Adonis?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: alpinelover on February 06, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
Very nice, Luc, that's for sure. This is a close-up from Adonis amurensis ‘Fukujukai’.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: LucS on February 06, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
Wow Luc, great clump of them.  I always wonder if they look so spectacular in real life, or whether the emphasis in a photo makes them stronger.  I often see photos of things I take in my garden and see all sorts of details and beauty that I don't see in the garden when viewing them...... I'm wondering how much of this happens with Adonis?
The whole clump measures about 20x30 cm. The plant looks a lot better when the flowers are higher en fully open.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
A superb clump Luc. :) Paul the Adonis is quite as fine in the flesh, so to speak but in your and my climate, tends to elongate over-quickly so that the very tight clumps such as that above, are quite fleeting and they certainly don't look as good when the foliage is expanded and maturing.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on February 07, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Hebe latifolius.

And a Grevillea that only Maggi seems to recall the name of.

johnw
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 07, 2011, 03:24:32 AM
Well done with the Hebe in your climate John, and so early in the year!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 07, 2011, 09:25:55 AM
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And a Grevillea that only Maggi seems to recall the name of.

Really? News to me....... though at the moment I'm having a little trouble rememberingmy own name.... must be the weather. ( cold and wet)
......wasn't it pictured inthe Forum recently, though?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 07, 2011, 11:55:27 AM
By the look of the leaves I'd be guessing it is a Grevillea rosmarinifolia cultivar?  Are the leaves spikey?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Pascal B on February 07, 2011, 05:56:13 PM
Another Asarum species from Taiwan in flower, given the corona and the shape of the calyx tube it seems closest to Asarum macranthum. The spotted leaf in the back is of Asarum taipingshanianum
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 07, 2011, 08:00:52 PM
This is as good as the 'foliage' gets this time of year! Shots near my house/driveway..
Shots from Jan 11, though nothing much is changed--we are alternating several days of -20 or colder with several days above freezing....
 edit: full album , with some shots of Alhambra Road, a name some seed recipients might recognise  ;D looks different this time of year, who'd know there are some interesting plants there??
https://picasaweb.google.com/cactuscactus/January112011#
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ian mcenery on February 08, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
Here is my Primula Tantallon starting to flower. I have just taken off the "winter snow" from its bed
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 08, 2011, 07:49:32 PM
Ian,what sought of conditions and aspect does your 'Tantallon'enjoy.I didn't think it would survive outside in this part of the country.I have several in pots and would love to try them in the open garden.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ian mcenery on February 08, 2011, 08:02:55 PM
Ian,what sought of conditions and aspect does your 'Tantallon'enjoy.I didn't think it would survive outside in this part of the country.I have several in pots and would love to try them in the open garden.

John I have them in the "open garden" ie where there is no protection and these are not yet flowering but they are subject to lifting by frost. The ones shown are in a cold and draughty spot at the side of my house where most of the light is reflected. They grow in what I call my Himalayan bed which is a fancy name for a raised bed specifically to deal with the issues of summer heat and winter wet. I tried to emulate the conditions in which I found them growing in Bhutan ie good light, never above 20C or so and high temperature for only short times as well as summer moisture. In summer this bed is always the coolest part of my garden and in winter - Dec to Feb - I cover with fleece. I removed it today and Tantallon was flowering. I also grow whitei, calderiana and a number of others but this one seems the easiest at least at present
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 08, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Ian, this is one of the prettiest primulas I have seen!
Your cold and draughty side of the house, is that the north side?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 08, 2011, 08:38:08 PM
Here (or where I work) the witch hazel flowers now:
(Hamamelis x intermedia 'Pallida')
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 08, 2011, 09:58:24 PM
Here is my Primula Tantallon starting to flower. I have just taken off the "winter snow" from its bed

Well done Ian !  Looks really good !
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 08, 2011, 10:22:39 PM
Here is my Primula Tantallon starting to flower. I have just taken off the "winter snow" from its bed

Wow, Ian, these are out of this world fabulous. Really brilliant.

Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ian mcenery on February 08, 2011, 11:36:02 PM
Ian, this is one of the prettiest primulas I have seen!
Your cold and draughty side of the house, is that the north side?

Paddy and Luc thanks  these are difficult plants for me and I have lost a few :'(


Trond my draughty place runs north to south but at the the southerly end there is a wall. My house and wall is painted white and so is the house nextdoor hence the reflected light
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 09, 2011, 11:01:10 AM
OK, I see!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 10, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
Fount this pot in a corner of the greenhouse today.

Oxalis versicolour
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on February 10, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
Fount this pot in a corner of the greenhouse today.

It says a lot about the delights in your greenhouse Michael if a spectacle like this could be almost overlooked ;D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 10, 2011, 10:20:10 PM
The Oxalis is cool.  I often find them in full flower at my place.... unless you happen to see them with the flowers open you have no idea they're there.  The flowers when closed have the red stripe to them and are quite dark, whereas when open you can't miss them.  All you need is a few days of murky weather and you see nothing at all. :)

Not that I am saying that Michael's greenhouse is not a delight.  We see so many treasures shown by him, it MUST be hard to keep an eye out for everything. ;D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: freddyvl on February 11, 2011, 08:24:32 PM
For the moment the witch hazels are in full bloom. Here a few overall pictures of Hamamelis in the garden and in pots.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 11, 2011, 08:31:27 PM
Welcome, Freddy!
What a colourful display... and there must be a fine fragrance , also,  from so many Hamamelis flowers 8)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: freddyvl on February 11, 2011, 08:43:57 PM
And a few close-ups of Hamamelisvarieties:

1) H. int. 'Andrea' (van der Werf, NL)
color: good clear yellow, some red tint at base, calyx deep maroon-red, slightly scended
2) H. int. 'Arnhem' (van Heijningen, NL) recent introduction
color: reddish orange, fragrant
3) H. int. 'Copper Cascade' (De Belder, B)
color: yellow-orange grading to red at base, calyx red-purple, scent faint
4) H. int. 'Cyrille' (De Belder, B)
color: straw-yellow, strawberry red from base to midway, calyx maroon-red, slight scent
5) H. 'Doerak' (van der Werf, NL)
color: celandine-yellow, calyx pale maroon-red, sweet scent, very long flowered period
6) H. int. 'Georges' (De Belder, B)
color: light red at base fading to coppery red at tip, calyx deep purple red, no scent
7) H. int. 'Jelena' 'De Belder, B)
color: red at base becoming ochre-yellow at tip, calyx claret-red, no scent
8) H. int. 'Strawberries and Cream' (De Belder, B)
color: tip yellow grading to red-purple at base, calyx purple, scent faint

Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: TC on February 11, 2011, 08:44:58 PM
I could not find the Snowdrop page so I have posted this here.   Back to Fullarton Woods in Troon to see the Snowdrop spectacular a few days ago.  No heat or sunshine so the flowers were shut but still worth a look.  It's amazing to think that after all the terrible weather we have had, nature,in the wild, still bounces back.  If the weather warms up I will take some better pictures.  I even tried to see if there were any different varieties or sports but after 10,000 or so I was suffering from Snowdrop blindness which is cureable.  Luckily, I have not been struck down with Galanthophilia from which there is no known cure.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 11, 2011, 08:45:31 PM
Freddy welcome from me as well,and what a start love the planting combonation with the snowdrops and crocus stunning and a very pretty property to boot.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: freddyvl on February 11, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
Oeps ... forgotten to say: for the Hamamelis description I have to name Chris Lane who also is the writer of the beautiful book 'Witch Hazels', thanks Chris !
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 11, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Marvellous, freddyvl! Do you intend to plant all those plants still in their pots out in your garden?

TC, is Fullarton Wood a public place or private? (Reminds me of my visit to England last week ;D)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: TheOnionMan on February 11, 2011, 09:13:54 PM
Freddy, fantastic colors on those Hamamelis cultivars.  The close up shots reveal surprising detail, the flowers crinkly and wrinkly and bright, delightful.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 11, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
Wonderful Witchhazels.  Such a range of colours.  I have an orange (Diane), a purpley colour (Ruby Glow) and have asked a local nursery to find a yellow (pallida?) if possible.  Not sure where I am going to fit it, but I'll find a way.  The whole range of colours like you've just shown is brilliant.  Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 11, 2011, 09:53:48 PM
Freddy,

A wonderful display of witch hazel, an excellent selection of colours and they look so very well planted in your garden, a perfect combination with the snowdrops.

Tom,
A great spread of snowdrops.

Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: TC on February 11, 2011, 10:06:49 PM
Hoy

The woods are public property and include a rugby pitch, petanque and a kid's playground.  The woods are totally left to grow as they please except that any trees that may be dangerous are felled.  The estate has been there for hundreds of years. I would think that the Snowdrops would have been planted in the 19th century
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 11, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
Thanks, Tom. Seems to be an interesting spot on Earth  ;D I love woods! Like this: (Taken last summer, not now as you probably guess  ;)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 12, 2011, 04:01:12 PM
Freddy, Tom
Thank you so much! Your images are like balm for my heart waiting for spring! So many flowers!

Freddy
Do you grow any sorts of Hamamelis vernalis?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
Folks, do have a look here to see some shots  of a wonderful Devon garden..... home of a cyclamen collection... amongst other things....

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6670.msg185697;topicseen#msg185697
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: alpinelover on February 12, 2011, 06:21:45 PM
Eranthis hyemalis shows me some flowers today.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: freddyvl on February 12, 2011, 07:13:19 PM
Freddy, Tom
Thank you so much! Your images are like balm for my heart waiting for spring! So many flowers!

Freddy
Do you grow any sorts of Hamamelis vernalis?

The natural distribution of Hamamelis vernalis is the American Midwest (Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana). The flowersize is (disappointingly) small. That's why H. vernalis and his cultivars are in general not in the foremost rank of witch hazels for gardeners. They do, however, exhibit good autumn colour and the flowers have a 'wide' colour range.
We have the botanical form and 2 cultivars:
- H. vernalis 'Lombart's Weeping' (Lombarts, NL, 1954): overall color = orange-red, petals = 6 mm long
- H. vernalis 'Sandra' (Dummer, ENG, 1962): overall color = golden yellow, petals = 10 mm long
The smallest Hamamelis is also a H. vernalis namely 'Quasimodo' (Zwijnenburg, NL, 1980): 1m tall and 1m wide.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 12, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
Thank you very much Freddy. H. vernalis is hardy enough here. This is why I interested in it.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 12, 2011, 08:24:04 PM
Folks, do have a look here to see some shots  of a wonderful Devon garden..... home of a cyclamen collection... amongst other things....

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6670.msg185697;topicseen#msg185697

Thanks for referring Maggie(I don't nrmally follow this thread)Just my type of garden.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
Folks, do have a look here to see some shots  of a wonderful Devon garden..... home of a cyclamen collection... amongst other things....

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6670.msg185697;topicseen#msg185697

Thanks for referring Maggie (I don't normally follow this thread) Just my type of garden.


   
John (kentgardener) and I thought that there would be non-galanthohiles who would enjoy seeing Jo's lovely Devon Garden.....so you've proved us right, John :) 
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 12, 2011, 11:55:27 PM
Stunning witch hazels, and I can imagine the perfume. :D

Tom, how could you NOT find a Galanthus thread. There are 399 of them!!! (and every one a little gem. ;D)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on February 13, 2011, 02:38:37 AM
"I removed it today and Tantallon was flowering. I also grow whitei, calderiana and a number of others but this one seems the easiest at least at present"


My Ian, a garden of aristocrats.  The Tantallon is sensational.  We saw it at Inverewe and were floored by the colour.

johnw
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ian mcenery on February 13, 2011, 09:25:14 AM
"I removed it today and Tantallon was flowering. I also grow whitei, calderiana and a number of others but this one seems the easiest at least at present"


My Ian, a garden of aristocrats.  The Tantallon is sensational.  We saw it at Inverewe and were floored by the colour.

johnw

John please do not get the idea that I grow these petiolarids well as nothing could be further from the truth - some barely survive and the odd one occasionally does moderately well which recharges the spirits. For a really good doer in the open garden I recommend Primula petiolaris itself . I had one from Jack Drake many years ago and as long as it is divided minimum every 2 years it does really well. The rest are very fickle and a lot have departed in spite of my "Himalayan bed"
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Rafa on February 14, 2011, 09:40:18 PM
Again, A. valentinum, just to show Paul Tyerman the size compared to my finger :)
Also a Dipcadi serotinum blooming today
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 15, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
The first Dionysia in flower ...., just like previous year this is Dionysia zschummelii 

Also Asphodelus acaulis is flowering again..
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on February 16, 2011, 11:07:36 AM
Wow, the Asphodelus is a well grown specimen. I suppose you cultivate it with a low termperature (+ additional light)?
Some years ago I saw plants which were awfully elongated.

Gerd
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 16, 2011, 12:09:14 PM
Rafa,

Thanks, it's a beauty!!  ;D

Kris,

That Asphodelus is delightful.  Not a species I've come across other than here on these forums, so really great to see it.  Delicate colour to it too.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 16, 2011, 06:23:39 PM
Thank you Paul and Gerd !

Gerd , yes I keep this one in the (cold)greenhouse for the winter. This greenhouse must be frostfree ( 0 degrees is allright)because it is used also for my collection of cacti and succulents. This winter we had a low temperature during november and december ....
I give no additional light for the Asphodelus. But I have good light in this greenhouse , except for the gray days we also have here...   
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 16, 2011, 06:30:42 PM
Also Asphodelus acaulis is flowering again..

I thought that was really good.... so I went to see if my Asphodelus acaulis, a gift from John Lupton, was showing any signs of extra flowers..... I didn't think that was very likely, it has been a long cold winter and the pot is near the corner of the glasshouse but what do you know? There are a whole bunch of flower buds sitting there, almost ready to flower.....  :) 8)
 Something good for me to tell John about on Saturday on the trip to Dunblane... if he hasn't read it here first!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 16, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
Lovely to see the Asphodelus again. Here it is quite hardy and grows happily outside all year, flowering from mid winter. I've never seen it like yours Kris, with elongated tubes (not stems). Here the flowers sit right down on the leaves. I find it's best grown in a very poor, hard soil which keeps the leaves at a lower less exhuberant size.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 16, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Lesley,

With that soil description it sounds like it would do wonderfully here in parts of my garden.  ;D ;D  In summer, poor and hard is definitely the native soil my garden is built (and thankfully improved) on. ;)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: TC on February 16, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
The Galanthus section is too rarefied for me so I will post this here.  A return trip to Fullarton Woods was made on a sunny day last Sunday.  It is amazing what a week and some sunshine can do.  Attached are some general views of the Snowdrops now opening up.  I did a rough estimate of the extent of the flowers.  One section is about 100 metres long by 30 metres wide.  A very minimum count would give about 500,000 flowers and this could be at least double.  There is not enough room to walk amongst them to note any difference in patterns or colour.  I found what looked like a flower with green petals by a path last year but could not locate it this time
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 12:10:57 AM
Tom,

OMG!!  :o :o  Oh to be able to see that sort of display in person.  Wow!!  Wow Wow!!  Wow Wow Wow!!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 17, 2011, 07:39:01 PM
Wonderful pictures Tom.Mine aren't quite up to Fullerton woods but getting there gradually.It is a long process and I probably won't be around to see the end result,but I can observe a distinct improvement year on year.Unfortuneately it hasn't been warm enough to fully open them but I thought I would take some pics. before the wind or rain or both spoiled them.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 17, 2011, 07:43:27 PM
John is that your land,its fantastic.Lovely sight :o
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 17, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
John and TC, thanks for those images--very impressive! Once these bulbs are done, and the trees leaf out, is there another set of vegetation on the forest floor, or is that it for the year? Its so unlike any woodlands here (in Alberta, I mean, there are forests more like this in Eastern NA), makes me curious about the seasonal cycle and the overall flora..
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gail on February 17, 2011, 07:46:24 PM
Wow oh wow John!  And I was pleased with my little mat of aconites under an apple tree....
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 17, 2011, 07:50:05 PM
A few more taken inside the garden boundaries
Hellebore Ericsmithii
Rhodo sichotense
Galanthus Sraffan with Magnet behind
Cyclamen coum
Galanthus 'Magnet' and aconites
Crocus tomasinianus
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 17, 2011, 07:52:31 PM
Lovely to see the Asphodelus again. Here it is quite hardy and grows happily outside all year, flowering from mid winter. I've never seen it like yours Kris, with elongated tubes (not stems). Here the flowers sit right down on the leaves. I find it's best grown in a very poor, hard soil which keeps the leaves at a lower less exhuberant size.

Yours is much better then mine Lesley . Yours is the real acaulis and mine should be named as pseudo-acaulis.... ;) But the reason for these is the lack of good light I suppose ?
I think is not hardy enough here , or it has some problems with our moist and wet winter ?
But now I see yours I must trie it outside in a sunny scree sometimes ...
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 17, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
Gail,that is still a very nice picture.
Cohan,nothing to follow in the wood unfortuneately.
Davey,yes it is my land but over the garden wall so to speak.The wall in this case being a leylandii hedge planted fourty-four years ago to give protection from the prevailing S.W.winds to a then bare plot.The trees were planted as whips about thirty years ago.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 17, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
John i simply have to applaud your efforts your garden is stunning,incredible all rolled up in amazing.WOW
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 17, 2011, 10:31:22 PM
Super pictures Tom and John, and Gail yours is good too!  I seem to remember some from last year John and if I am correct then this year I am even more gobsmacked ;)  I'd love to have some woodland to do this to.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 10:32:56 PM
John,

That is absolutely brilliant work.  Congratulations!!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 17, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
Cohan, wait for another month for more pics from John's place, or search through last year's at about the same time. I seem to recall bluebells, hellebores and all sorts in the same place or close by.

Gail you eranthis are lovely too, especially in closeup. Sorry, I don't mean to sound as if I'm patting a two-year-old's head, and making soothing noises. :D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on February 18, 2011, 08:17:06 AM
John, it looks wonderful, I am green, white and yellow with envy. It just goes to show the truth of the old saying: Every garden, no matter how small, should have at least an acre of woodland.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 18, 2011, 09:06:13 AM
John and Tom,

Wonderful photographs, really enjoyed them. A wonderfully natural growth of snowdrops in Fullarton Woods and nature imitated and improved in John's garden.

Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gail on February 18, 2011, 09:42:26 AM
Gail you eranthis are lovely too, especially in closeup. Sorry, I don't mean to sound as if I'm patting a two-year-old's head, and making soothing noises. :D
That's okay - I like soothing noises!   :)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 18, 2011, 06:46:28 PM
Gail,that is still a very nice picture.
Cohan,nothing to follow in the wood unfortuneately.

fascinating, John! I guess that makes it easier to maintain these plantings? or are there weeds that would happily grow, just no other flower plantings? the only 'bare' forest floor I have around here, is coniferous and therefor the same all year... our deciduous forest is much more open, so the understory is fiercely competitive!

Lesley, I guess that was a different part of the garden :)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 18, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Yes you are right Cohan,my mainteanance regime does not allow any other species much as I would like bluebells,their foliage persists for too long and would prevent my herbicide spraying for too long and allow the cow parsley to re-establish.I can spray as soon as the aconites and snowdrops have died down and catch the cow parsley before it seeds.After clearing the floor of brash in December I then scatter the seed collected from the garden plantations and leave it to it's own devices.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on February 19, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
Helleborus x nigercors ex Ashwood as a plant 1996.  Last Spring we gingerly divided the big old plant and had a few successes.

johnw
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 21, 2011, 07:35:46 AM
Yes you are right Cohan,my mainteanance regime does not allow any other species much as I would like bluebells,their foliage persists for too long and would prevent my herbicide spraying for too long and allow the cow parsley to re-establish.I can spray as soon as the aconites and snowdrops have died down and catch the cow parsley before it seeds.After clearing the floor of brash in December I then scatter the seed collected from the garden plantations and leave it to it's own devices.

Interesting! not many things here die down that early (though I've only started getting spring bulby things) our late cool spring means many of them aren't done till mid-summer! I did plant some Corydalis solida fall before last, and noticed they were gone 'early' but probably far later than elsewhere!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Ed Alverson on February 22, 2011, 10:34:17 PM
I would like bluebells,their foliage persists for too long and would prevent my herbicide spraying for too long and allow the cow parsley to re-establish.
John, have you tried applying a broadleaf selective herbicide (like Triclopyr - "Garlon" in the US) to the cow parsley? It wouldn't affect bluebells, even if they are actively growing, because they are moncots.

Ed
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Ed Alverson on February 22, 2011, 10:43:41 PM
My first hypertufa trough was planted in March 2009 with a number of small plants native to the Columbia River Gorge on the border of Oregon and Washington.  After the NARGS Western Winter Study \Weekend we took a field trip to the Catherine Creek area at the east end of the Gorge to see the early spring wildflowers.  Afterwards we visited a local native plant nursery where I purchased a number of plants for what seemed like ridiculously low prices.  The trough is now maturing nicely, and the grass widows (Olsynium douglasii) are now blooming.  The other two plants are Heuchera cylindrica, which has taken on a nice bronzy color for the winter, and a species of Lomatium with dissected gray green foliage.  I also planted a Penstemon but it did not survive.  The Heuchera and Lomatium are admittedly way to big for this small trough, but I like it anyway.  Both will flower later in the spring.

The grass widows in the gorge are renowned for their early flowering - they begin in February pretty much every year.  Interestingly, wild populations of Olsynium douglasii in the area where I live are much later flowering - they won't start for another 4 weeks at least.

Ed
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 23, 2011, 05:42:53 AM
Ed,

The Olsynium douglasii are gorgeous.  What a great colour.  Not a genus I think I've ever seen here in Aus.  Very pretty little thing by the look of it.  Thanks for showing us your trough..... I love the combination.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Ed Alverson on February 23, 2011, 05:59:36 PM
Olsynium douglasii was previously known as Sisyrinchium douglasii until taxonomists decided it was more closely related to South American Olsynium than North American Sisyrinchium.  The species is of course named for David Douglas, the Scottish botanical explorer who traveled extensively in the Pacific Northwest in the 1820's and 1830's.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was the first person to introduce it to cultivation, certainly he must have seen it in bloom at one time or another when he traveled through the Columbia River gorge.

There are a number of nice photos of this species in nature on Mark Turner's web site at http://www.pnwflowers.com/flower/olsynium-douglasii and http://www.pnwflowers.com/flower/olsynium-douglasii/gallery.

Ed
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 23, 2011, 06:52:53 PM
I would like bluebells,their foliage persists for too long and would prevent my herbicide spraying for too long and allow the cow parsley to re-establish.
John, have you tried applying a broadleaf selective herbicide (like Triclopyr - "Garlon" in the US) to the cow parsley? It wouldn't affect bluebells, even if they are actively growing, because they are moncots.

Ed

Thanks for that Ed.I haven't come accross that in the UK but I will do some research.However,I think it might be too late for me to be establishing bluebells.I am still actively dividing the snowdrops as well as spreading seed of the aconites and snowdrops but starting from scratch with bluebells might be a tall order.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 23, 2011, 08:45:35 PM
Paul the Olsynium is well established in NZ rock gardens, and there is a beautiful white as well, equal in my mind to any snowdrop. I think the pale one on Mark Turner's website is palest pink rather than pure white. Here's mine. It seeds a little too but the seedlings haven't yet reached flowering size so I don't know if they'll be true to colour.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 23, 2011, 10:35:05 PM
Spring is here  :)

The garden.
Hepatica in the garden.
Hellebores in the garden
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 23, 2011, 10:38:19 PM
Ornithogalum balansae.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Spring is here  :)

The garden.
Hepatica in the garden.
Hellebores in the garden
Well if Spring isn't there in your garden it's doing a jolly good impression! All lovely but the hepaticas are just hard to resisit.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 24, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
Michael, I am jealous ;)
Spring is definitely not here, we got 10 cm of snow last night :( However the weather forecast says +7C tomorrow and Saturday so maybe we get a glimpse of coming spring ;D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 24, 2011, 10:20:27 PM
8 hours of sun today so a few more pictures of the wood in better light-at the risk of giving you indigestion.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 24, 2011, 10:47:21 PM
Great to see all the flowers--not yet here!
I have to settle for overwintering seedpods or dried leaves  ;D
for more, see:
http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=587.0
We were talking about Salix seed viability, and I wonder how that affects the fall seeding species here!
or full album:
https://picasaweb.google.com/cactuscactus/February232011WinterWillowsAndFriends#
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
8 hours of sun today so a few more pictures of the wood in better light-at the risk of giving you indigestion.


Lovely to see the woods looking even brighter with the sun.

In the new issue of IRG, #14  for February, Ian has written a tiny article about Eranthis and John was kined enough to allow the use of one of the photos of his wood from 17th February to illustrate a naturalised planting.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Feb241298591020IRG14_Feb_2011.pdf
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Joseph on February 25, 2011, 02:29:06 AM
Michael, a beautiful garden. And John, what a stunning sight. Before I clicked on the thumbnails I was reminded of these fields of Adonis I saw at a botanical garden in Korea (not my garden but I hope it's OK to post here):

(http://www.hellebores.org/images/adonis3.jpg)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on February 25, 2011, 04:49:17 AM
John,

Breathtaking!!  :o  Congratulations on creating something so beautiful on such a scale.

Cohan,

Great winter shots.  Definitely a little different to the usual snow pics everyone seems to be producing now.  ;)

Michael,

Great Heps.... so cool to be able to grow them in the garden.  I think they'd just get lost here. ::)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 25, 2011, 08:15:43 AM
8 hours of sun today so a few more pictures of the wood in better light-at the risk of giving you indigestion.


No chance ;D Really lovely to see these John, well done.  Oh for a bit of woodland..... :-\
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gail on February 25, 2011, 09:07:12 AM
Wonderful pictures everyone.  Joseph - thank you for posting the Adonis, I've never seen them en masse like that.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
Wonderful pictures everyone.  Joseph - thank you for posting the Adonis, I've never seen them en masse like that.

 Nor I.... it is very exciting to see these Adonis en masse.... thanks Joseph .
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Ed Alverson on February 25, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
So much for spring - we had a bit of snow and now the trough with the Olsynium that I showed the other day is transformed/obscured. But as such an early bloomer, this happens to Olsynium in its native habitats, so the plants are well adapted to a bit of cold - sort of like schoolchildren who had the day off yesterday when school was cancelled.

Ed
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on February 25, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Cohan,
Great winter shots.  Definitely a little different to the usual snow pics everyone seems to be producing now.  ;)

Thanks, Paul--I'm coming to appreciate more the way plants look over winter-- retained seed heads or dried leaves or stems etc-- we need something to look at other than white and spruce trees  ;D I've become very fond of the local Anemone cylindrica for just that reason--very missable flowers, but it looks great in fall and some seed heads remain above the snow all winter--just for that, I plan to establish a nice big patch of them...

Love to see those massed spring flowers, all--keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
Wonderful pictures everyone.  Joseph - thank you for posting the Adonis, I've never seen them en masse like that.

Neither have I,I never realised that they were so prolific,mine only exist and have never expanded in years.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gail on February 25, 2011, 08:18:31 PM
I never realised that they were so prolific,mine only exist and have never expanded in years.

Lucky you - some of mine have ceased to exist!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 08:45:48 PM
Here are some pics.of my alpine lawn taken yeterday mid.morning.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Same shots more or less taken mid.afternoon.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 08:58:07 PM
Great comparison shots to see the  flowers opening in the sun.....  pictures full of real spring hope, John.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
Some general shots around what I call The Glade leading on from the Winter Garden and alpine lawn.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 09:54:58 PM
and the rest
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on February 25, 2011, 10:18:37 PM
Wonderful pictures John !
Your bulb meadow is fabulous!! What a difference makes a bit of sun, did not see it here for days already :( :(
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Joseph on February 26, 2011, 06:51:54 AM
John, this is mind boggling. ;D Incredible. How old are these plantings?
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Philippe on February 26, 2011, 08:41:26 AM
Lovely views John!
Crocuses and eranthis just don't manage to open here, although the flowers are perfectly formed since 3 weeks at least. SUnshine is simply more or less totaly failing, except for occasionally one or two days.
Thank you for the pics!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 26, 2011, 09:27:05 AM
John,

Another wonderful set of photographs of your garden. This is an amazing achievement. Can I also ask how long ago you started planting these crocus, eranthis etc in the alpine lawn? Can you suggest cultivars which succeed best?

Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 26, 2011, 09:58:27 AM
A great treat to see this planting John, it is really stunning.  Well done to you and the plants.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 26, 2011, 10:04:50 AM
Are they cracking clumps of a yellow snowdrops(i'm colour blind)?what a sight John if you don't click to expand the pic they look like an impressionist painting,stunning.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2011, 10:11:14 AM
In John Gennard's pictures the yellow are Eranthis and Joseph showed us golden Adonis...... wonderful carpets of  cheery golden flowers.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2011, 11:09:55 AM
John, this is mind boggling. ;D Incredible. How old are these plantings?

Thanks Joseph,I started the alpine lawn plantings about thirty-nine years ago and the aconites and snowdrops in the wood about eight years ago.The whole garden began in 1967 from an absolutely bare plot.The native trees forming the wood were planted as whips about thirty-two years ago.

Thanks Paddy,there aren't any cultivars included,the planting consists of tomasinianus,eranthis hyemalis,narcissus 'February Gold' and Fritillaria meleagris(just emerging)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: daveyp1970 on February 26, 2011, 12:01:02 PM
In John Gennard's pictures the yellow are Eranthis and Joseph showed us golden Adonis...... wonderful carpets of  cheery golden flowers.
Maggie i really am colour blind and sometimes get muddled when colours get close reds/browns...green/brown.....yellow/green
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
In John Gennard's pictures the yellow are Eranthis and Joseph showed us golden Adonis...... wonderful carpets of  cheery golden flowers.
Maggie i really am colour blind and sometimes get muddled when colours get close reds/browns...green/brown.....yellow/green

 One of the most successful SRGC grower/ exhibitors is colour blind..... it doesn't hold him back. It's a problem that affects a lot of men, I understand.(more than women :-\  )
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hoy on February 26, 2011, 07:06:06 PM
Red/green colour blindness is more common among men than women as it is sex-linked. The genes for red and green colour sight sit in tandem on the X-chromosome (It is because the red/green gene divergence is a relatively new trait of humans). A kind om deletion does that sometimes either the gene for red or the gene for green colour sight disappear. This affects about 8% of the X-chromosomes. It is hereditary of course and since men has only one X about 8% of the men are affected by colour blindness. As women have two X it is 0.082 = 0,0024 or 0.24% chance for women to be colour blind (One normal X i sufficient)
Calculation mistake: 0.0064 or 0.64% :-X (or printing error ;) )
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 26, 2011, 07:18:08 PM
John,

We have started off planting crocus, snowdrops and fritillarias in one small grass area and intend planting daffodils next autumn. I hadn't thought of using 'February Gold', not thinking it would be suitable for grass but, on consideration, I can think of no reason why it should not do well. Daffodils are probably the most commonly planted bulb in grass.

I expect to have a similar effect as you have in your garden around 2050. If I manage to draw the pension in good health until then, I will be a very happy man.

Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2011, 07:32:06 PM
I think a lot soner than that Paddy,My area has been looking like this for a good many years.In the case of the frits.don't forget to collect the seed when ripe and scatter sow it in Nov./Dec. otherwise you will mow it up when you mow after the bulbs have died down.You can also collect the crocus seed and do the same but the seed isn't as obvious as you know,it sits down at the base of the flower.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 26, 2011, 07:39:53 PM
Collecting the seed and scattering at the end of the year is an excellent tip.

Many thanks, Paddy
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2011, 08:38:26 PM
Red/green colour blindness is more common among men than women as it is sex-linked. The genes for red and green colour sight sit in tandem on the X-chromosome (It is because the red/green gene divergence is a relatively new trait of humans). A kind om deletion does that sometimes either the gene for red or the gene for green colour sight disappear. This affects about 8% of the X-chromosomes. It is hereditary of course and since men has only one X about 8% of the men are affected by colour blindness. As women have two X it is 0.082 = 0,0024 or 0.24% chance for women to be colour blind (One normal X i sufficient)
Thankyou!

 I think we can find a forumist to answer just about any question.... what a delight it is to be amongst you!
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 26, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
I love that all these little bulbs flower before their overplanted trees come into leaf. Once the trees green up the bu;bs are gone having done their glorious best and it doesn't matter. Everything in its correct season. :D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Pascal B on February 27, 2011, 03:27:01 PM
Some Asarum in flower today. First 2 are from Taiwan and belong to the taxonomically rather complicated Asarum macranthum-group. The third is the Chinese Asarum campaniforme.
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 27, 2011, 04:51:58 PM
One or two things from the garden today, it has been a while since I had a chance to wander round and I have found a lot is going over.  
This corner has a Daphne mezereum album grown from seed and flowering well for the first time, behind it the tassels of Garrya elliptica and in front a miniature Forsythia 'Gold Tide'
Crocus in the sun
A double hellebore, I don't normally like them but this one appealed to me
Eranthis 'All Saints' a seedling of 'Noel Ayres' selected by John Foster and more vigorous than it's parent
Helionopsis orientalis Korean form from Desirable Plants
and Hacquettia 'Thor' which I thought I had lost ;D
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ian mcenery on February 27, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
Nice pics everyone here is Ypsilandra thibetica clumping up quite nicely. This is one tough plant it is evergreen and is showing virtually no damage
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fleurbleue on February 27, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
Asarum have really amazing flowers !
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on March 01, 2011, 10:52:29 PM
John,

Your designed forest is just breathtaking!!  WOW Wow Wow!!!!

Pascal,

The flowers on the Asarum are gorgeous.  I've not seen those 3 before.... I do so wish more of them were available here in Aus.  Then again, to the majority of people they aren't particularly attractive, it's us plant addicts that just adore them.  ;D ;)

Thanks for the pics everyone. 8)
Title: Re: February 2011 - Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lampwick on March 02, 2011, 11:59:03 AM
John Gennard in the heart of Leics……..WOW!!

John,
Your wonderful woodland brimming over with those gorgeous swathes of plants is breathtakingly beautiful.

Can there be anything as tranquil and peaceful than to stand quietly for many moments in that setting and let the spirit and mind be filled with its splendor.

Many, many thanks for putting up those great images!.......I love them!  :) :) :) :)

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