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Title: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on February 03, 2011, 02:29:42 PM
Can I kick off the new Ranunculus year?

The first Ranunculus are now up and if it was warmer they might open. I dont know how they are spreading. I have a small group now

R. kochii
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on February 03, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
You must be semi-tropical over there, Mark!!!   ;D :o
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on February 03, 2011, 02:51:49 PM
Not today. It's ffffffrezzing and there is a gale blowing
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on March 26, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Today I noticed a possible colour break among my Ranunculus ficaria. What do you think? This is the first flower to open with more buds coming. It looks like the greenish cream petal colour is bleaching to show green petals. Coppernob and Orange Sorbet do this fading from bright orange to pure white . Orange Sorbet retains some orange
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 04, 2011, 05:38:41 PM
Three more exciting R. ficaria seedlings in the garden. When the sun shines again I'll get better photos.
A plant with a giant leaf

A lemon flowered plants with a good looking leaf. One photo shows a comparison with a normal coloured flower

An orange flower possibly fading to the flower below

An Orange Sorbet look-a-like
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 07, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
What's the difference between R. crenatus and alpestris? They both look the same to me except alpestris is taller ???
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 07, 2011, 12:11:18 AM
some R. ficaria seedlings
almost white seedling
fading seedling
extra petals

This was the year I was planning to spray them all with Round-up
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: WimB on April 07, 2011, 07:57:39 AM
Hi Mark,

I love the Greenish and lemon coloured ones.

There's a very clear difference between R. crenatus and R. alpestris. R. crenatus grows lower and flowers with thinner petals (they look paperlike).

Here's two pictures (R. crenatus to the left and R. alpestris to the right). And also a pic of the flower of R. crenatus.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 07, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
Thanks. I'm happy I have both
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 07, 2011, 10:35:19 AM
Wim all of these are in one seedling swarm and I dont know how I will take them apart. When I have enough you can have a bit of the lemon one.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: WimB on April 08, 2011, 12:14:52 PM
Wim all of these are in one seedling swarm and I dont know how I will take them apart. When I have enough you can have a bit of the lemon one.

Thanks Mark,

that would be very nice...when you have a big enough clump!
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 02:10:29 PM
OK

Here's a lovely Ranunculus but the label is missing. The leaves are round-ish and think

You all will think I'm boring mentioning R. ficaria but her's another starting to fade
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
and R. alpestris. It is as easy to divide as crenatus? Are any of these buttercups suitable for lime stone conditions?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: annew on April 08, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
I've never noticed Ranunculus ficaria Aurantiacus bleaching out like this before - is it normal? Also, Double Bronze is making a takeover bid.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 05:25:48 PM
It must be the high levels of sunshine
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 08, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
Your lovely ranunculus looks like R. parnassifolius from the image and your description, Mark.
R. crenatus, R. parnassifolius and R. alpestris will all tolerate and even enjoy a gritty limestone medium.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 08, 2011, 05:56:49 PM
Here's Ranunculus millefoliatus flowering for me right now.

Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: WimB on April 08, 2011, 06:06:06 PM
Cliff,

welcome back. Hope all's well!
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 08, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
Not a bud on mine yet, Luc!  You must be nearer to the sun?   :D

Thanks Wim ... I'm actually due for the op' tomorrow morning, so I will read your message again tomorrow afternoon.   ;D
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: WimB on April 08, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
Not a bud on mine yet, Luc!  You must be nearer to the sun?   :D

Thanks Wim ... I'm actually due for the op' tomorrow morning, so I will read your message again tomorrow afternoon.   ;D

Oops, my mistake  :-[..."bon courage" for tomorrow.... :)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 06:38:15 PM
Cliff you are spot on.

My millefoliatus  is out now also
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 06:50:39 PM
Cliff, all the best for tomorrow
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 08, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
Many thanks all ... it's only a simple cataract operation but the thought of someone actually slicing my eye ... Aaaagh!   ;D
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 06:56:48 PM
My mum had two done and never had any problems after
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
just went out to take these photos of R. parnassifolium showing the leaves

Ever thought of Anemone nemerosa as a crevice plant? I have by accident. A recycled pot contents actually contained this lovely Anemone. This Anemone is coming up through approx 12 inches 30cm  of rocks and sand. This could be their last year. I sprayed a dandelion with roundup but didnt notice the tiny new growths. They are now yellow and the flowers re white

Which Anemone is it?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: annew on April 08, 2011, 09:02:19 PM
It must be the high levels of sunshine
Yup, tropical in Yorkshire today. 8)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2011, 10:18:10 PM
Another Ranunculaceae from today - Adonis vernalis
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Carlo on April 08, 2011, 11:21:07 PM
I've seen it in other forms of R. ficaria. I have no real idea why it should happen... (but am not convinced it's a sun thing).
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 08, 2011, 11:34:27 PM
Mark, the pale blue nemorosa looks like 'Robinsoniana'. The other common pale blue, 'Allenii' has red-flushed backs to the petals. 'Robinsoniana' doesn't.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 09, 2011, 07:19:18 AM
Thanks Martin.

The old garden with A. apennina also has huge carpets of A. Robinsoniana which where I probably got this and all colours of A. nemerosa
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 11, 2011, 11:20:50 PM
I saw this today in a friends garden labelled as Ranunculus flabellata. Googling it it should be a aquatic plant. Is this a Ranunculus?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 11, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
The leaves are a little like R. amplexicaule, but not that.

Did you discover what your plant was that had invaded your trough? Did it come through the winter OK?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 11, 2011, 11:58:22 PM
The plant in the trough is getting bigger but no sign of flowers. More came up in troughs which means seeds came in the soil or leaf mould
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Stephenb on April 12, 2011, 07:48:07 AM
Looks a bit  like native Lesser Spearwort (Ranunculus flammula)? See, for example, http://www.honeysomeaquaticnursery.co.uk/shop/images/Ranunculus%20Flammula.jpg (http://www.honeysomeaquaticnursery.co.uk/shop/images/Ranunculus%20Flammula.jpg)
Grows in boggy areas.

R. flabellata is a synonym for R. paludosus (the Plant List), clearly also a bog plant from the epithet, but pictures don't look at all like your plant.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on April 12, 2011, 10:20:26 AM
Darren gave me some Ranunculus asiaticus from Mt Hermon which are the red form  and this one came up amongst them. The normal red is in the background.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 12, 2011, 10:55:03 AM
I'd apologise for the mongrel but suspect you won't be too disappointed with it... ;)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on April 12, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Darren

as you will have noticed I have not weeded it out!! Some might think it is better than the original.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 12, 2011, 12:21:49 PM
Has 'Ken Aslet' come into flower yet? This clone is very late with me and not open yet. It is the best red I grow, with huge flowers.
( I feel the lateness is connected with the known hardiness of this clone - it is always worryingly late to start into growth too - no sign until late december this time around)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: pehe on April 13, 2011, 09:25:54 AM
After a long winter spring it is here.

1. Ranuculus kochii April the 1st (2 months later than Marks!)
2. R. koichii in another place
3. Same as 1, 10 days later
4. R. kochii, Narcissus cyclamineus, Corydalis 'George Baker' (same plants as i 2, 10 days later)

Poul
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
Poul your form is much more compact than mine. Maybe it's because of better light levels at this time of year
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: pehe on April 13, 2011, 10:08:24 AM
Mark, in previous years with mild winters they have flowered in February. In these years they were also very compact. The light level does not seem to be that important. The site in pic 1 and 3 is a south facing raised bed in full sun while the plants in pic 2 and 4 are growing in partly shade in the border of some Rhododendron. Maybe I have a particular compact clone. By the way, they seem to set seeds this year for the first time. If they succeed, I can send you some.

Poul
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2011, 10:13:10 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on April 13, 2011, 05:38:01 PM
Has 'Ken Aslet' come into flower yet? This clone is very late with me and not open yet. It is the best red I grow, with huge flowers.
( I feel the lateness is connected with the known hardiness of this clone - it is always worryingly late to start into growth too - no sign until late december this time around)

Yes Ken Aslet is also in flower. I had not realised it is semi-double and so a very robust flower. I have not given them any frost protection this year although they are under glass. They have all survived but are poor compared with previous years when I have kept them just frost free at the roots. Not something I will repeat.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 15, 2011, 07:01:18 PM
Stephen, thanks for trying to ID the Ranunculus

Is anyone growing the minute R. extorris?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: PeterT on April 15, 2011, 08:28:05 PM
How lovely Mark
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 16, 2011, 06:48:20 PM
Does anyone grow Anemone nemerosa Super Allenii. It is a good plant but I dont think it is very special - unless my plants are not correct
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: annew on April 17, 2011, 10:46:02 PM
Stephen, thanks for trying to ID the Ranunculus

Is anyone growing the minute R. extorris?

It's a real cutie, Mark. Is the rest of the plant in scale?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: angie on April 17, 2011, 11:58:30 PM
There was a lovely White Ranunculus on the show bench in the Conference this weekend, it had a dark centre and was a really big flower. I thought I had taken a picture but no. Has anyone any idea what its name might have been and where may I could purchase this Ranunculus.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 18, 2011, 06:33:45 AM
Hi Angie,
It was lovely to meet you at the conference ... the only significant ranunculus that I can remember from the show was a pan of R. parnassifolius, but I didn't get an image as I already have many photos and some nice plants of that species ... does the name ring a bell with you - if so, I already have a pot here with your name on it?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Diane Clement on April 18, 2011, 08:23:52 AM
I think the plant Angie is referring to might have been a pot of Anemone? - coronaria or pavonina or something similar. 
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 18, 2011, 08:50:22 AM
Anne yes it's a tiny plant. I'll take a photo later
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 18, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
I think the plant Angie is referring to might have been a pot of Anemone? - coronaria or pavonina or something similar. 

I think 'Sherlock' Clement has fathomed it ... well done Diane!

My MOST humble apologies for the attached image ... just 'snapped' on passing but at least it may assist Angie to identify or eliminate?
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: angie on April 18, 2011, 09:48:47 AM
Hi Cliff
Great meeting you, hope you had a great time and yes that's the plant. I just thought it was wonderful but maybe it's a difficult plant to grow.
I was sure it was a Ranunculus but Diane has got the right plant. Thanks Diane. I think my brain is still drained but that's nothing unusual in my case. ::) ;D sometimes I wonder if I do have a brain in that head of mine.
This morning I looked out the window to a wonderful foggy Aberdeen  :'(, I do hope it clears up and the sun comes out. I need to move down south. ;D

Thanks folks.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 18, 2011, 10:05:26 AM
That is Ranunculus asiaticus I reckon, whatever it might have said on the label!

In which case Angie, I know a bloke who has a few of these in assorted colours, including the white..... ;)

And it is dead easy to grow too if protected from too much frost.

Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Diane Clement on April 18, 2011, 10:53:38 AM
That is Ranunculus asiaticus I reckon, whatever it might have said on the label!

Yes, this is it.  I had no memory of the label, or the leaves, just a vague memory of the flower, which in my fuzzled memory had turned into Anemone. 
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 18, 2011, 11:19:11 AM
That is Ranunculus asiaticus I reckon, whatever it might have said on the label!

Yes, this is it.  I had no memory of the label, or the leaves, just a vague memory of the flower, which in my fuzzled memory had turned into Anemone. 

I had no memory of the plant until I scanned my images!!!  ... and I SHOULD have identified it - even with a beer fuzzled brain!  (What a wonderful word Diane, is it a synonym?)  LOL.

Angie ... take Darren up on his generous offer, they will be splendid plants.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 18, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
The biggest surprise was seeing a third place sticker on one of Cecilia Coller's plants. Surely this is a historic event???? ;D

Personal experience tells me that judges don't like this species much anyway...

Thanks for the flattering comment Cliff, and I'll be in touch once my plants go dormant Angie.


Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 18, 2011, 12:24:29 PM
Anne this is it. I have to move it because a dwarf Daphne has covered it. If there is a spare tuber you can have it. Apologies for the writing
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 18, 2011, 01:55:28 PM
Angie's query reminded me to go out and take some pics of my trays of Ranunculus asiaticus.

Whilst I prefer the pure colour forms it is virtually impossible to prevent the intermediates occurring when growing from your own seed..but some of them are nice and I don't have the heart to rogue them out.



Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: ranunculus on April 18, 2011, 02:29:42 PM
Glorious sight Darren ... I don't grow any due to space restrictions, but am sorely tempted.  :D
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on April 18, 2011, 02:36:55 PM
OMG what a display
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on April 18, 2011, 08:01:33 PM
Lovely collection Darren.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 18, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Going on the experience of past show reports and pictures, I too was very surprised to see a Third on one of Cecilia's plants. She's probably compost it! ::)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: angie on April 18, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Thanks Darren for identifying the plant. I just thought it was a beauty. Wow that is some display that you have just showed us. Would be interested if you have a spare plant sometime, just love white flowers. I can't understand why the judges don't like it. I would have given it a first.

Diane I think all our brains were overworked at the conference, well my little brain certainly was. Nice meeting you and hope that there will be plenty other occasions to meet up in the future.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Darren on April 19, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
They DO certainly take up a lot of space and are not very forgiving of the pots being crowded together - they get botrytis if the air can't circulate around them. It also makes it difficult to keep an eye out for aphids! Some seedlings under the bench have been badly infested this spring and I'm tempted to chuck them rather than risk virus.

I'm also a bit worried that I am down to just two plants of the pure yellow so must pollinate and sow seed this year.

Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on May 17, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
My Ranunculus speciosus flore pleno flowers are all hose in hose this year. Strange to see but I like it.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: annew on May 18, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
Anne this is it. I have to move it because a dwarf Daphne has covered it. If there is a spare tuber you can have it. Apologies for the writing

???
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on May 18, 2011, 09:19:28 PM
I havent a clue what I'm talking about either except if I have a spare tuber of R. extorris you can have it
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 12, 2012, 09:21:32 PM
Looking back through this thread I noticed Mark, you asked about Anemone nemorosa as a crevice plant. Surely it is the ultimate crevice plant as I remember seeing, way back in 1981! Anemone nemorosa happily flowering in the (can't spell here) cricks and grykes of the Yorkshire dales. I didn't get much opportunity for walking when I was in the UK but that particular day I remember well. It was beautiful to see this plant, presumably native, flowering in a wild habitat.
Title: Re: Ranunculus 2011
Post by: mark smyth on March 12, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
like this

and 'Super Allenii'
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