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Title: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 02, 2011, 12:55:37 PM
Why didnt I find this weeks ago :'(
http://priceprobe.co.uk/galanthomania-best-price/books/p4181113 (http://priceprobe.co.uk/galanthomania-best-price/books/p4181113) from £14.37
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: art600 on February 02, 2011, 01:05:20 PM
Curiously although prices are given most state 'unknown' stock.  Asda are out of stock.

Even more curious on Amazon, you can get a Used copy for £8 more than a New copy  ???
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Sean Fox on February 02, 2011, 01:17:07 PM
Why didnt I find this weeks ago :'(
http://priceprobe.co.uk/galanthomania-best-price/books/p4181113 (http://priceprobe.co.uk/galanthomania-best-price/books/p4181113) from £14.37

How much was it to pre-order Mark?
Seems a very reasonably priced publication at £15 or less!
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 02, 2011, 01:29:24 PM
Mine's now arrived ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 02, 2011, 01:44:14 PM
How much was it to pre-order Mark?

Hi Sean

Mark posted where to order it a couple of months ago - from memory I think it cost me £16.sh from the book depository (free postage).

Glad I did as it will definitely help to keep me amused for the season.  8)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 02, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Arthur I see many books listed higher than normal asking price
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 02, 2011, 03:16:49 PM
It won't be released here until July 2011 according to Amazon.ca.

Wondering if there is also an edition in Dutch?  Thinking of a gift.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 02, 2011, 03:20:24 PM
John why dont you order from the UK send it to one of us and then have it sent to Canada? I'll accept it for you
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: WimB on February 02, 2011, 03:26:17 PM
It won't be released here until July 2011 according to Amazon.ca.

Wondering if there is also an edition in Dutch?  Thinking of a gift.

johnw

John,

if I'm correct it's bilingual (English/Dutch) in one book. I ordered it for € 25 here in Belgium. Still have to receive it.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 02, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
Wondering if there is also an edition in Dutch?  Thinking of a gift.
Johnw

Hi John

The edition is in both languages.  Often the left page is Dutch (I presume it is Dutch ?) and the right page is English.

I've had another glance at it while taking a tea break from work this afternoon and I think it is a really good sixteen GBP worth.

Looks like a great book to keep me happily occupied for the years between 'snowdrops 1' and 'snowdrops 2'. 

Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: emma T on February 02, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
From the little time i have had to peer at it , it does seem to be a great book. More snowdrops to put on the wish list  ::)  I'm very pleased to see Angela Winfield in there, shes wearing a hat i knitted for her  :D ( complete with embroidered snowdrops )

I had better start saving now for the yellow trym Joe Sharman mentions  :o
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 02, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
Galanthomania: Snowdrops (Hardback) (English/Dutch; Flemish) By (author) Hanneke Van Dijk

The book cover:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 02, 2011, 04:47:11 PM
shes wearing a hat i knitted for her  :D ( complete with embroidered snowdrops )

If you can create me a blokes 'butch version' of the knitted hat in black or dark navy with embroidered snowdrops I will be very interested in having one for wearing on special occasions,   ;D 8)  
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: David Nicholson on February 02, 2011, 04:49:18 PM
John, thought you would go for a camouflaged one at least ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 02, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
John, thought you would go for a camouflaged one at least ;D

Pure black knitted hat with snowdrops embroidered would almost be winter camo  ;) .... 
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 02, 2011, 04:53:46 PM
I've known about Joe's yellow Trym for a couple of years now but trying to get a photo from him is like getting blood from a stone.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 02, 2011, 04:56:43 PM
Galanthomania: Snowdrops (Hardback) (English/Dutch; Flemish) By (author) Hanneke Van Dijk

The book cover:

(Attachment Link)

Thanks for that Maggi and Wim. Noticed the Flemish ( ;)) and Ken said he saw somehwere there was a Dutch version but hasn't been able to find the reference since.  Thanks for the offer Mark, I'll look into that otherwise I shall be in a sweat till mid-summer, however shipping would probably be the same as the price of the book.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 02, 2011, 05:00:11 PM
Obviously the white flower fans are rather excited about this new book from Hanneke van Dijk.
She published an article in the Dutch bulb growers' journal in July where she described the new classification system.
As the KAVB is the official Registration place for Galanthus, she had previously explained to the KAVB Committee about her ideas and plans for a key.
I expect the Committee gave her some useful ideas as well that she could incorporate into her manuscript.
Hannike worked on this this Classification together with Forumist Wim Snoeijer ( you may know him from his  Agapanthus book and of the Classification system for Clematis), who is very knowledgable on this subject.

 Here are two pdfs of the article..... in Dutch but not unreadable, I think, when one works out the likely words for the subject!!


[attach=1]

[attach=2]
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: emma T on February 02, 2011, 05:01:22 PM


If you can create me a blokes 'butch version' of the knitted hat in black or dark navy with embroidered snowdrops I will be very interested in having one for wearing on special occasions,   ;D 8)  

I can do that  ;D no problem

I've known about Joe's yellow Trym for a couple of years now but trying to get a photo from him is like getting blood from a stone.

Shame ,just have to wait till it get posted on Ebay in 10 years time  :-\
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 02, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
My God, I thought another new topic and called "Galanthomania?" What are all the others about then?

But yes, I see you're actually serious.  :o
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 03, 2011, 02:11:51 AM
shes wearing a hat i knitted for her  :D ( complete with embroidered snowdrops )

If you can create me a blokes 'butch version' of the knitted hat in black or dark navy with embroidered snowdrops I will be very interested in having one for wearing on special occasions,   ;D 8)  
Wouldn't a green cap with white ear-flaps be more appropriate? It could be all the rage for snowdrop viewing parties! ;D With maybe an embroidered green patch towards to the tips  ;D
And the very special ones could be gold ;D
Emma
you could start a trend!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 03, 2011, 02:43:34 AM
shes wearing a hat i knitted for her  :D ( complete with embroidered snowdrops )

If you can create me a blokes 'butch version' of the knitted hat in black or dark navy with embroidered snowdrops I will be very interested in having one for wearing on special occasions,   ;D 8)  
Wouldn't a green cap with white ear-flaps be more appropriate? It could be all the rage for snowdrop viewing parties! ;D With maybe an embroidered green patch towards to the tips  ;D
And the very special ones could be gold ;D
Emma
you could start a trend!
cheers
fermi

Emma  - I think fermi is onto something here, these hats could go viral.  I'd like a big knitted one for Canadian winters, just like 'Colossus'.

johnw   
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: chasw on February 03, 2011, 07:14:39 AM
Having only quickly looked through the book,the small pictures in the back,Rodmarton looks wrong to me
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: emma T on February 03, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
this forum is mentioned on the page about lattice pots  :)

mmmm i shall have to get knitting  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Alan_b on February 03, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
Galanthomania: Snowdrops (Hardback) (English/Dutch; Flemish) By (author) Hanneke Van Dijk

Hanneke Van Dijk usually attends the Galanthus Gala with a tour party from Holland.  This might be an opportunity to get your copy of her book signed, if she is willing.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 03, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
You'll have to take orders Emma, how about one with South Hayes on it  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 03, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
I'm sure she will. She is selling the book at the Gala
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 06, 2011, 03:39:10 PM
My book was mailed on Wednesday and hasnt arrived.

I did get a look at one yesterday. I'm quoted in the lattice pot section. Should I get a free book?  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: steve owen on February 06, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
No but you get a free lattice pot.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 07, 2011, 02:43:46 PM
Mailed on Wednesday my book arrived today.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 12, 2011, 01:32:01 PM
Please all who received the book! What is your opinion on it? Is it 'must have' or no?
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
I don't know yet, Olga.... I ordered the book from Play.com... who said they had several copies in stock but it has not arrived and on checking the order now it says they are waiting for stock.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 12, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Please all who received the book! What is your opinion on it? Is it 'must have' or no?

Hi Olga

If you want lots of descriptions of plants then it is not the book for you.

But if, like me, you love to know a tiny bit about peoples and their passions then it is good.  It only takes 2 or 3 hours to read but many Galanthophiles are talked to.  There are also 500 close up photos of snowdrops (lots of them not in the bible book) so for me it is a good 20 GBP worth.

And of course there is the new classification system - but I haven't made my mind about that yet.

Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 12, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
John, thanks a lot! I have bible book only in computer (photographed). I'd like to have something to read in comfortable armchair with a cup of coffee.  :) I am very interested in new classification and species descriptions less in photos. Ideally I dream about something like The Genus Epimedium. But I understand I want too much.  8)

Maggi, what a pity! I was going to order from Play.com too. Amazon.com does not have the book yet.  ??? We missed bestseller?
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 12, 2011, 04:02:12 PM
Maggi, what a pity! I was going to order from Play.com too. Amazon.com does not have the book yet.  ??? We missed bestseller?

Mine came from http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789089892430/Galanthomania  - it has gone up a few pounds since I purchased it - but their site does not say out of stock.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: steve owen on February 12, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
Olga

I recommend you get it. AND.. at the Gala today there were fliers for a new snowdrops book from Gunter Waldorf; " the book presents more than 300 varieties of snowdrops for the first time in brilliant photographs in their natural surroundings." Tempted?  Order by email to "waldorf@oirlicher-blumengarten.de". No relation.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on February 12, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
In English or in German or both???
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johngennard on February 12, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
Please all who received the book! What is your opinion on it? Is it 'must have' or no?

Amazon now have it.I have just ordered it at£19.70 post free     
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2011, 08:00:19 PM
Looks like only in German.
To be published in August.

http://www.oirlicher-blumengarten.de/seiten/links/links.html


Günter Waldorf
Schneeglöckchen
Zauber in Weiß

(Snowdrops- White Magic)
160 pages
300 colour illustrations

€ 19,99 (D) / € 20.60 (A)
CHF 30.90 * (* recommended. Price)
ISBN 978-3-421-03831-9
For the first time over 300 snowdrop varieties are displayed in such abundance in natural surroundings and in brilliant photographs . Essential for Galanthophiles, the book makes the beginner  more curious and for the expert is a practical and beautiful reference book. A must for every snowdrop enthusiast.

The first 100 orders can, if desired,  get the book with a dedication by OLIVER KIPP and GÜNTER WALDORF .
Published in August 2011
for each € 19.99 plus shipping costs, delivery, after the publication in August 2011
 
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 12, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
Thank you John, thank you John, thank you Steve, thank you Maggi.  :)


Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 15, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
First impressions of "Galanthomania" - an unreasonable amount of space given to pen pictures of snowdrop personalities, many  photographs of poor quality and, being bilingual, it is essentially half a book.

To give a positive note: there is a good photograph of Martin Baxendale. Perhaps, that will save it.

To be fair, that is a first impression and I will read it more carefully and may change my mind, but don't think so.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 15, 2011, 07:06:41 PM
Paddy I dont like it either and regret ordering it. I know others not happy.

Maybe I should jump on the band wagon and create a multilingual "A Pocket Guide to Galanthus"
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: art600 on February 15, 2011, 08:20:44 PM
For all of us junior galanthophiles the book is worth the money for the'poor' pictures at the back.

I cannot instantly recognise snowdrops and trying to find them using the 'bible', well life is just too short.  Using the gallery at the back of Galanthomania - excellent.

The book is many times better than Aaron Davies' PhD thesis, that cost an arm and a leg and could not be read without constant reference to the glossary - unless you happened to be a botanist.

The pen pictures were also good for those of us outside the inner circle  :)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 15, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
Maybe I should jump on the band wagon and create a multilingual "A Pocket Guide to Galanthus"

If I sold one copy for every hit my snowdrop web site gets ...... ker-ching
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 15, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
I didn't even know I was going to be in it, Paddy. The text attributed to me seems to be loosely based on a talk I gave to Hanneke and the rest of the Dutch contingent the night before last year's snowdrop gala.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 15, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
As you say, nice photo.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 15, 2011, 08:47:13 PM
I think you stole the show, Martin.

And, what did you think of the book?

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 15, 2011, 08:51:12 PM
I haven't had time to read it properly yet, just flicked through it very quickly. Strikes me as more of a coffee table book about the phenomenon of galanthophilia than a plantsman's guide to snowdrop collecting and growing.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 16, 2011, 01:52:06 AM
Strikes me as more of a coffee table book about the phenomenon of galanthophilia than a plantsman's guide to snowdrop collecting and growing.

Coffee table book - good description. 

I am glad I got it. 
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 16, 2011, 08:39:54 AM
I'm sure there will be plenty of people, including a fair few snowdrop enthusiasts, who will enjoy it for what it is - a comparatively light coffee table book read about galanthophilia and galanthophiles, but others who were expecting something more heavyweight with lots of practical and detailed info on snowdrop cultivars and how to grow them may well be disappointed. Maybe it's all a question of expectations. My advice to anyone who hasn't pre-ordered it but is thinking of buying would perhaps be to try to see the book in the flesh, at a bookshop, or maybe a friend's copy, before buying and have a flick through it to see if it's what you expect it to be.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 16, 2011, 08:46:50 AM
And of course if it helps to get more non-galanthophile gardeners (who might not need a mass of heavyweight practical info initially) interested in snowdrops, then that can't be a bad thing.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 16, 2011, 09:45:34 AM
And of course if it helps to get more non-galanthophile gardeners (who might not need a mass of heavyweight practical info initially) interested in snowdrops, then that can't be a bad thing.
Here, here, Martin.  It is certainly not an academic tome, but I find myself picking it up and reading a page when I've got a couple of minutes.  It is very nice to see who all these well-known galanthophiles are after having read all the mentions of them elsewhere.  Obviously useful, and attractive, to those who only have a slight temperature rather than the fully blown condition ;)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Gerard Oud on February 17, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
I do agree with Brian, i have only had a short look in the book and its completely diffrent then the snowdropbible. Its understandable and readable for everyone. If you would like to write a new snowdropbible and i know you have experience with writing Martin. Just remember how much work needs to be done before you have it all complete, and what will be a reasonable sellingprice? I think there wont be any profit after all that work :'(
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 17, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
No, Gerard, I certainly won't be trying to write a new snowdrop bible  ;D  I know just how much work would be involved, and anyway the team who brought us the first one are already working on producing a second one with new cultivars named since the first came out.

I don't mean to attack Hanneke's book. I have heard that some people have been disappointed by it, probably because it didn't turn out to b quite the kind of book they were expecting. I was just trying, in response to Paddy's question, to give an honest and positive view on it.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on February 17, 2011, 11:09:51 AM
Martin you could write a snowdrop collectors cartoon booklet
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Gerard Oud on February 17, 2011, 06:21:02 PM
No, Gerard, I certainly won't be trying to write a new snowdrop bible  ;D  I know just how much work would be involved, and anyway the team who brought us the first one are already working on producing a second one with new cultivars named since the first came out.

This century? ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: galanthophile on February 22, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
It's not often a new book on snowdrops comes out so I for one was pleased to obtain it. A light read with some nice descriptions of the mania and nice pictures. I'm glad to have it but I would buy any book that featured snowdrops as the main subject....!
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 22, 2011, 09:34:48 PM
Ann,

I think you were part of the target audience for this book - a person who would buy anything to do with snowdrops. Perhaps, "Galanthobookmania" might have been a suitable title. And there are many, many more like you; I being one.

It is, as you say, a light book.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: jnovis on February 22, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
I like all the thumbnail pictures in the back pages,makes it easier to compare different plants.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 22, 2011, 09:42:11 PM
But, it's not a comprehensive listing of photographs, Jim, and many are of  poor quality.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 22, 2011, 11:07:56 PM
I think, if I was to criticize anything, I was disappointed with the quality of the paper it was printed on, finer paper would have meant better looking reproductions.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2011, 11:13:22 PM
I'd like to criticise the delivery service from play.com.... I still haven't got mine.  >:(
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 22, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
I was happy to see a photograph of G. 'Lady Moore'. That brings up the positive points for the book. Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 23, 2011, 07:13:28 AM
I often find myself searching on SRGC to see if there are photos of snowdrops not in 'snowdrops 1' so I am very happy to have 500 more reference pics all in one easy to find place.   8)  





(the picture of 'Hans Guck in die luft" doesn't look right to me

I wasn't going to say anything due to the disclaimer on page 5 "While the utmost care has been taken with the names in this book, some degree of discourse is inevitable".  But thought it worth mentioning in case anyone is attempting a comparison.
)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on February 23, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
One of the best pics in the book is GRÜNER SPLITTER ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 23, 2011, 08:57:46 AM
This is the photograph of 'Hans Guck in die Luft' from "Galanthomania". Paddy

Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 09:03:25 AM
Thank you Paddy !

Sorry to say ....but this pic of "Hans guck in die Luft " is wrong ( thank you also John F )

Here are the orginal pics from my garden :

Please read also here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1343.0

This is not a pure G.elwesii ( like Grumpy and similar ) it is a hybrid between G.elwesii X G.plicatus
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 23, 2011, 09:46:06 AM
One of the best pics in the book is GRÜNER SPLITTER ;) ;) ;)

That could be because it looks to be such a good snowdrop Hagen ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 23, 2011, 09:58:20 AM
One of the best pics in the book is GRÜNER SPLITTER ;) ;) ;)

And that chap photographed on the page across from it, page 78, who is he?

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Here is a "fresh" picture from today :

Hans guck in die Luft

Enjoy
Hans
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2011, 01:11:57 PM
Here is a "fresh" picture from today :

Hans guck in die Luft

Enjoy
Hans
I DO enjoy 'Hans guck in die luft': with that face he is a lovely snowdrop, thanks for the picture Hans.  8)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 23, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
The story of "Johnny, Head in the Air" is here, a translation from the original German by Mark Twain:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12116/12116-h/12116-h.htm#The_Story_of_Johnny_Head-in-Air

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 01:34:52 PM
Thank you Maggi  :D that you like my snowdrop !

....and the good thing is :
It is a good grower ! ( many friends have confirm it )
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 01:36:51 PM
I have just written to Hanneke van Dijk that her picture in this book is wrong and I send her my own pictures

Now I wait ....

Hans
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: emma T on February 23, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
Here is a "fresh" picture from today :

Hans guck in die Luft

Enjoy
Hans

It is  nice  :) and a good grower is even better ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 23, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Purely out of interest, I wonder where the photograph of 'Lady Moore' came from.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 02:06:41 PM
I have just received a friendly answer from Hanneke :

"Sorry the picture is not right. We always write down where we take pictures, so we will ask where they got or bought your snowdrop.
 
All the specialists who checked the snowdrops and names missed it.
We really tried to get it as perfect as possible but such things can always happen.
 
I will make a note so I can correct it in a second version."

I would be interest to hear from which person came this wrong named plant / or pic

Hans
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: KentGardener on February 23, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
Here is a "fresh" picture from today :

Hans guck in die Luft

Enjoy
Hans

And a picture of one flower still holding onto it's petals in my garden this afternoon Hans (in the rain).  My very last flower on the clump but there have been many flowers for a long time and it increases very well.    8) 

thank you  :)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 05:03:52 PM
Thank you John F  :D

here was last night -7° C .....and this morning I had "Hans in the ice" .....
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 23, 2011, 05:25:22 PM
I had "Hans in the ice" .....

Just had a very good laugh.  The German word for ice slipped my mind so I went online and what a hoot the translator says "intercity-expresszug".  Then somehow I saw eis in the I.C.E.  The old mind is a bizarre thing.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 23, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 24, 2011, 10:13:15 AM
On the subject of the photographs of snowdrops in the back of the book.  I noticed yesterday that there is a photograph purporting to be Lady Fairhaven, what a shame that this myth is being continued in a book which will, no doubt have a wide distribution. :-\
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: steve owen on February 24, 2011, 06:55:50 PM
The story of "Johnny, Head in the Air" is here, a translation from the original German by Mark Twain:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12116/12116-h/12116-h.htm#The_Story_of_Johnny_Head-in-Air

Paddy

and..      For Johnny   
by John Pudney


Do not despair
For Johnny-head-in-air;
He sleeps as sound
As Johnny underground.
Fetch out no shroud
For Johnny-in-the-cloud;
And keep your tears
For him in after years.

Better by far
For Johnny-the-bright-star,
To keep your head,
And see his children fed.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 24, 2011, 07:44:05 PM
Quote
and..      For Johnny   
by John Pudney


Do not despair
For Johnny-head-in-air;
He sleeps as sound
As Johnny underground.
Fetch out no shroud
For Johnny-in-the-cloud;
And keep your tears
For him in after years.

Better by far
For Johnny-the-bright-star,
To keep your head,
And see his children fed.

Thank you Steve  :D

Sorry - but my english is not so well so I can not understand all 100 %

Hans
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: steve owen on February 24, 2011, 08:09:52 PM
Lieber Hans
Die gereimten kann nicht gut übersetzen!

Nicht verzweifeln
Für Johnny-Kopf-in-Luft;
Er schläft als gut
Als Johnny Unter Grund.
Bring aus keine Leichentuch
Für Johnny-in-die-Wolke ";
Und halten Sie Ihre Tränen
Für ihn in späteren Jahren.

Bei weitem besser
Für Johnny-der-hell-Sterne
Um Ihren Kopf halten,
Und seine Kinder sah zugeführt.

Gruss
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Hans J on February 24, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
Dear Steve ,

now I'm really surprised  :o :o :o

It seems your german is very well  :)

ahhh ....not only Maggi speaks german ....

maybe in future I could more write in german - thats much easier for me  ;D

Thank you !
Hans
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 25, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
Can anyone recommend a European site where I can purchase this book in Dutch for a friend in Holland?  A Dutch friend here can help me navigate the language.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 12:42:22 PM
Can anyone recommend a European site where I can purchase this book in Dutch for a friend in Holland?  A Dutch friend here can help me navigate the language.

johnw

Well do NOTuse  play.com, John, I'm still waitng for my copy.  >:(

 Edit: Now I've cancelled the order.... never again!
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 25, 2011, 12:49:31 PM
Maggi,

Is there any truth to the rumour, doing the rounds in personal messages, that you have pre-ordered and pre-paid for the next edition of the snowdrop book?

I dismissed it as incredible fantasy but many believe firmly in the suggestion, several wagering quite large amounts on it.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 12:59:27 PM
Maggi,

Is there any truth to the rumour, doing the rounds in personal messages, that you have pre-ordered and pre-paid for the next edition of the snowdrop book?

I dismissed it as incredible fantasy but many believe firmly in the suggestion, several wagering quite large amounts on it.

Paddy

Paddy all I can say in reponse to these mischievous allegations is this: do you think I am made of money?  :o


I can recount that on Tuesday 22nd I  even returned "part1" back to the local SRGC Group Library ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 25, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
So, I have placed my bets wisely, then?

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Thomas Seiler on February 25, 2011, 01:29:38 PM
Can anyone recommend a European site where I can purchase this book in Dutch for a friend in Holland?  A Dutch friend here can help me navigate the language.

johnw
You might order it from here, as I did:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789089892430/Galanthomania

"Galanthomania" is in Dutch and English, each copy.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 25, 2011, 01:47:27 PM
Can anyone recommend a European site where I can purchase this book in Dutch for a friend in Holland?  A Dutch friend here can help me navigate the language.

johnw
You might order it from here, as I did:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789089892430/Galanthomania

"Galanthomania" is in Dutch and English, each copy.


Thanks so much Thomas. I was reading John Grimshaw's review on his blog and thought 'Sneeuwklokjes' was the same book but solely in Dutch.  I now see it is an earlier book by Hanneke. Which do you think is more suitable for a casual Dutch gardener who thinks we are all totally mad about "our tiny bulbs" as she calls them?

johnw - bracing for extremely heavy rain. 60mm+
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Thomas Seiler on February 25, 2011, 02:13:15 PM
John, on my snowdrop party last Saturday a friend, who is not a Galanthophile and new to all this, considered "Sneeuwklokjes" as the more pleasing book. There exists a German translation,"Schneeglöckchen", which is unfortunately out of stock. It is a very good introduction. So, if the Dutch version is still available, maybe this one first and then, later, "Galanthomania"  :)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johnw on February 25, 2011, 02:32:32 PM
Thanks again Thomas.  I will order definitely Sneeuwklokjes for her and Galanthomania for myself but it seems the site you recommend does not have it.  Any possible good Dutch sources?

If lucky when she visits in July perhaps she will bring it along so I can have a peak. I wonder why she comes in July and not March? ;)

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: John Grimshaw on February 25, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
I have ventured a review of Galanthomania on my blog: http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/2011/02/galanthomania.html

John Grimshaw

Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 08:02:07 PM
I have ventured a review of Galanthomania on my blog: http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/2011/02/galanthomania.html

John Grimshaw




 John writes..... "(Fortunately there is no Primark group...)"

..... such a shame, no move for 'drops for the masses then  ::) :-X


Very useful review, John, thanks.

I may not worry too much about buying it  yet awhile.... after all I still have a fat tree tome yet to be opened which is calling me........   when do folks have time to read nowadays if not on a train?
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 25, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
This strikes me as a very fair and balanced assessment of the book. The classification system is of little use. The portraits of snowdrop enthusiasts are interesting though shallow and the selection haphazard. The collection of photographs at the rear are of poor quality.

Overall, it is a very light-weight book with little to contribute for anybody with more than a passing interest in snowdrops.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 09:35:01 PM
Paddy,

I am very glad I cancelled it after reading other forumnists comments.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 25, 2011, 10:52:49 PM
There you go, John, money saved.

I suppose to compare it with the snowdrop book, it is one you would read and put away while you go back again and again to the snowdrop book.

As I recall someone describe a book, it is memorably forgettable.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: galanthophile on February 26, 2011, 03:40:31 AM
Very interesting review from John Grimshaw, can't argue with that!
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 07, 2011, 03:30:31 PM
I'm very happy to have discovered that there was a large surge in sales of my novel, The Snowdrop Garden, in February - no doubt as a result of it being featured in Hanneke's book. Hope it keeps up  ;D

Still on special offer on Amazon, by the way, reduced to £6-39 from £7-99.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Snowdrop-Garden-Martin-Baxendale/dp/095505009X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1299511796&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: steve owen on March 07, 2011, 07:38:38 PM
I have ventured a review of Galanthomania on my blog: http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/2011/02/galanthomania.html

John Grimshaw


John
Thanks for this lucid critique. Stating complicated things in a simple fashion can't be as easy as it looks.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martina Kopsieker on March 09, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
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Well do NOTuse  play.com, John, I'm still waitng for my copy.  >:(

 Edit: Now I've cancelled the order.... never again!
[/quote]

Hi Maggi, just to mention, I ordered the book by amazon, it was out of stock but today the told me they posted it to me yesterday!

Martina
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on March 09, 2011, 08:13:46 PM
Thanks, Martina.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 09, 2011, 08:57:46 PM

......As I recall someone describe a book, it is memorably forgettable.

Paddy
I prefer Dorothy Parker: "This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly; it should be thrown across the room with great force."
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on March 09, 2011, 09:05:48 PM
Ah, Gerry,

I have an admiration for anybody who goes to the bother and hard work of writing a book and am, generally, reluctant to be over critical in my comments. "Galanthomania" suffered mostly from not living up to its pre-publication publicity and this is, perhaps, the fault of the publishers rather than the author. However, that aside, it is not an excellent book. Perhaps, we will just lob it across the room to land on the pile of those never to be looked at again.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Alan_b on March 17, 2011, 07:59:04 PM
I find I am struggling to read many of those pages that are white text on a coloured background, particularly in poor light.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: mark smyth on March 17, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
Not a problem reading but the choice of colour is bad
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on March 17, 2011, 09:47:42 PM
I find I am struggling to read many of those pages that are white text on a coloured background, particularly in poor light.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Oh goodness, I didn't realise it was like that.... I find that very tough going.

I'm told such colouring is very "trend forward" and the height of modern design.... :-\
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 18, 2011, 02:25:30 AM
I've not seen this particular book so can't comment about the white on black/colour background but what you say Alan, is certainly true of many other publications I've seen and tried to read recently, especially magazines. And I bought an expensive book at Christmas, a cookbook, to find the recipe ingredients are all in a very pale blue/grey colour against the white ground. Literally, I can only read then in bright daylight and with a magnifying glass. Modern or trendy design it may be but it is BAD design, like cutlery with square ends which hurt the palms of one's hands, and kitchens where the shelf for the microwave is above shoulder height (above waist height, in my opinion) because having to lift casseroles and the like from above horizonal arm height (and bent at the elbows) is downright dangerous when they're filled with very hot food. I could write a whole book about bad design.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on March 18, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
There was a report of a similar nature on BBC "Breakfast" this morning where  people had written in to complain that the background music in a recently shown new programme was too loud. People of a certain age and certain hearing ability/disability seem to prefer a clear voice with no distracting background sound. This background sound is similar to the background colour on the printed pages mentioned above.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 19, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
Well those people have my sympathy Paddy. OK, so we degenerate a little as we age but that shouldn't mean that we're sidelined for the sake of the young who will undoubtedly go deaf sooner than we have, because of the appalling garbage they listen to and at a monstrous decibel level.

I also prefer to eat or drink where there is little or no background music and can actually listen to and hear, the person I'm with and converse on a sane level. Of course a pub with a good Irish or Scottish band, is great fun and to be welcomed, but then, the music is the point, not the unwelcome distraction.

I think this should be in the Moan, Moan thread. ???
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: trevorn on June 27, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
Well, it certainly isn't what you'd expect from a scientific/ botanical treatise and there are forward trend issues for old tired eyes but I found the appraoch novel and interesting with its quirky personailty based approach which does raise some real issues that more serious books don't address. At least one person said there are far too many similar varieties, others admitted to be crazy collectors - a good cross section of what a bunch of nuts plants-people can be.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Maggi Young on June 28, 2011, 12:42:23 AM
Hello Trevor.... nice to hear from you.  Your take on the book is an interesting one.... plenty room in the market for variety in book treatments, eh, if not for more identical snowdrops ;) :-X

Certainly great scope for plant nuttiness all round.... as we prove time and again here..... thank goodness they can't touch us for it.  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: hanninkj on August 28, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
I have the book and read it. The only good thing in the book is the classification.
The rest is not worth to read. How can you write such a book!
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 28, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
I have the book and read it. The only good thing in the book is the classification.
The rest is not worth to read. How can you write such a book!

Then, you found nothing good in it.

Trevor, it was,indeed, interesting to read of the personalities who collect snowdrops.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 28, 2011, 09:54:47 PM
I have at last ordered Janis's Crocus book. I ordered it from AmazonUK on Wednesday and it arrived here post free on Friday! A superb book as everyone who has it, knows.

I also ordered a DVD, an American movie 'The Lake House.' I'm not specially a fan of either Sandra Bullock or Keanu Reeves but have seen it twice on TV and it really intrigues me, having a sort of twisted time dimension to it and I'd like to see it again and then again later. Unfortunately Amazon sent a note to say they are unable to supply it outside the UK and Europe, something to do with the owners having forbidden general distribution I think. Damn it. I'm unable to get it in NZ.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Martin Baxendale on August 28, 2011, 11:04:45 PM
Lesley, we saw The Lake House at the cinema and enjoyed it. Amazon.uk have it quite cheap. I have some other stuff to order from amazon so will order a copy, enjoy it a couple of times and mail it on to you.
Title: Re: Galanthomania - the book
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 29, 2011, 12:33:51 AM
Martin, that's lovely of you. I'll email you privately. Thanks so much.
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