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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Paul T on February 01, 2011, 03:04:47 AM
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Howdy All,
Just starting off the Feb topic for the southern hemisphere. Pics posting shortly. 8)
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Flowering at present for me......
Hibiscus "Southern Belle", white flowered. Huge flowers!!
Neomarica caerulea
Lilium auratum platyphyllum
A new purchase for me last week.... a Snail Vine (Vigna caracalla), well named as you can see by the flowers and buds. The flowers start out white and pink, then fade to a yellowy colour. Amazing perfume too, that is just so tropical. Sort of like Lilium crossed with Frangipani, with some other stuff thrown in. Gorgeous!
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A new purchase for me last week.... a Snail Vine (Vigna caracalla), well named as you can see by the flowers and buds. The flowers start out white and pink, then fade to a yellowy colour. Amazing perfume too, that is just so tropical. Sort of like Lilium crossed with Frangipani, with some other stuff thrown in. Gorgeous!
Gorgeous indeed Paul!
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Luit,
It remains to be seen whether I can get it through winter in a warm corner. It is after all a tropical "bean", but it apparently can die back to the ground and reshoot in cold climates. Fingers crossed I can get it to do so here. ;D
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With the really hot weather lately the Monarch butterflies as well as the flies are congregating in the courtyard with the ponds. So many of them flying around and settling for a few seconds. I dare anyone to get a good photo of them when they are flitting from leaf to leaf.
There must be lots of frogs too in the ponds too as they hop back in the water after being disturbed. Just waiting to see my first Red Bellied Black snake for the season as they like the ponds for their lunch break.
Driving into Angaston this afternoon I was surprised by what looked like spent gum blossoms or some such for a good 15ft over the road.
On the way back I slowed down - it was locusts hoppers hopping across the road from what used to be Lindsay Park Racing stables to the Lindsay Park Stud homestead. Just when they are trying to sell too. I vaguely thought about reversing over them a few times........ :-\
I have never ever seen anything like this. There must be millions of them hatching and starting to move.
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Pat,
Did you notify anyone? I know in some parts they will spray hoppers when they're seen en masse?
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Just a little "first" for me - Petronymphe decora, a close relative of Bessera elegans, also from Mexico. Oh, and it took me four years from seed. :)
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Beautiful plant Rogan 8)
The distinctive colouring reminds me of Primula serratifolia.
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Just a little "first" for me - Petronymphe decora, a close relative of Bessera elegans, also from Mexico. Oh, and it took me four years from seed. :)
That's a beautiful plant, Rogan!
One I'd not heard of before, thanks for posting it.
cheers
fermi
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Nice, Rogan.
Like Fermi, I'd not heard of that one before either.
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Delightful Rogan. I'm pleased to say my Bessera are coming through apace. Last year they didn't come up until April but it's wetter this year and they were not repotted after their late planting last year. No buds yet though.
I dread any further news from Queensland. That poor state! Whatever next must those people endure.
Floods, fires, and locusts? And they call Australia "the lucky country." ???
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So, should Bessera be flowering already? Mine have leaves (assuming those cylindrical shoots are the correct thing) but it has been a few years since they last flowered and I have concerns that I may have lost them and that what is growing in there isn't actually the Bessera anymore. Do they flowers appear with, before, or after leaves?
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Mine flowered last year with the leaves but as I said, they were received and planted late so maybe their behaviour wasn't normal. The leaves just started 2 or 3 days ago after so much rain lately.
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Just a little "first" for me - Petronymphe decora, a close relative of Bessera elegans, also from Mexico. Oh, and it took me four years from seed. :)
That's a lovely flower too Rogan. Seems to flower earlier as Bessera?
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The local Council Paul is going to spray - landholders spray their own land.
Yes the plant was completely new to me. I do like greenish flowers. Does it have a scent Rogan?
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"Seems to flower earlier as Bessera"
Just a little earlier Luit; my Bessera are just about to open their first blooms. No scent discernable to my nose.
A little more about it (I can't remember the source):
"Petronymphe is a monotypic genus with a very restricted range found exclusively within the state of Guerrero, Mexico. It's only known habitat is near Acahuizotla, 1 hour south of Chilpancingo at about 3500' elevation where they grow on 30m vertical cliffs above a river. Petronymphe is member of the Brodiaea complex that also includes genera such as Dichelostemma, Triteleia and Bessera etcetera. Recent work (2001) suggests placing it in the Milla clade of a new family, Themidaceae. (This clade includes Behria, Bessera, Dandya, Jaimehintonia, and Milla)."
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Fascinating, Rogan. Congratulations are VERY much in order by the sound of it, for flowering this little rarity. 8)
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at about 3500' elevation where they grow on 30m vertical cliffs above a river.
Crikey, nothing wimpish about it then, for all its delicate stem and flowers :o
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Flowering at present for me......
Hibiscus "Southern Belle", white flowered. Huge flowers!!
Love Southern Belle Paul !!! :o B e a u t i f u l !!!!
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"Seems to flower earlier as Bessera"
Just a little earlier Luit; my Bessera are just about to open their first blooms. No scent discernable to my nose.
A little more about it (I can't remember the source):
"Petronymphe is a monotypic genus with a very restricted range found exclusively within the state of Guerrero, Mexico. It's only known habitat is near Acahuizotla, 1 hour south of Chilpancingo at about 3500' elevation where they grow on 30m vertical cliffs above a river. Petronymphe is member of the Brodiaea complex that also includes genera such as Dichelostemma, Triteleia and Bessera etcetera. Recent work (2001) suggests placing it in the Milla clade of a new family, Themidaceae. (This clade includes Behria, Bessera, Dandya, Jaimehintonia, and Milla)."
Very interesting Rogan! Reading about the place where they grow makes me fear that they just survived only on places where people hardly may reach them. But may be I am to pessimistic thinking so ::)
But it looks definitely like a plant to look out for in culture, now only just have to wait untill finding some seed or bulbs for a start ;D ;D
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It was thought to be extinct for a number of years as the whole population was collected and exported to Europe. Same happened to spectacular Hippeastrum argentinum that like Petronymphe had the fatal luck of being thought of as "the plant of the future".
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So my fearing was justified :o :o :(
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Love Southern Belle Paul !!! :o B e a u t i f u l !!!!
Luc,
They're a herbaceous variety, dying off completely every year and reshooting to about 1.2m or so for me (could be higher I think if conditions were wetter). Some of the flowers can get to 25cm across, perhaps slightly larger, at the beginning of the season. I don't fertilise them at all, otherwise I would imagine the flowers would probably stay large for most of the season instead of getting smaller as the season goes on like they do. Glad you liked it.
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Flowering at present for me......
Hibiscus "Southern Belle", white flowered. Huge flowers!!
Neomarica caerulea
Lilium auratum platyphyllum
A new purchase for me last week.... a Snail Vine (Vigna caracalla), well named as you can see by the flowers and buds. The flowers start out white and pink, then fade to a yellowy colour. Amazing perfume too, that is just so tropical. Sort of like Lilium crossed with Frangipani, with some other stuff thrown in. Gorgeous!
Nice bean, Paul! I hope it survives your 'cold' climate ;)
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Rogan--nice plant, hope it manages to recover in habitat! It's frustrating at times that its not possible to buy seed of Mexican plants from Mexico, but given the horrible history of foreign collectors, its not surprising they just banned all export of plants and seeds :(
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"But it looks definitely like a plant to look out for in culture, now only just have to wait untill finding some seed or bulbs for a start"
My seeds came from Ginny Hunt of Seed Hunt in the US of A: http://www.seedhunt.com/pplist.html
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Rogan,
By the sound of it you need to set seed on it and start funding your retirement by selling them. ;D I'm sure there are a lot of us who'd like some. ;)
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"start funding your retirement"
Well, I'll get busy then - five more years to go... ::) ;D
I also loved your "bean" Paul - nobody's mentioned the scent yet - gorgeous!
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Rogan,
Well as I've now planned your retirement funding for you, I'll take a small fee of perhaps 1 dozen seeds? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Yes the perfume of the Snail Vine is beautiful, although I am not sure I'd want it right outside my bedroom window. I also think that cutting it and bringing it indoors might not be ideal either. ::) I think you might get a bit "over it" rather quickly.
And Yes, I am joking re the seeds.... Petronymphe is not on our ICON database, unless it has a synonym? I just thought I'd mention that before quarantine start looking sideways at everything I bring into the country. ;D
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Oh, thanks a lot, Rogan! Just what I needed, another seedlist to look at!
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I'm enjoying 2 fairly common plants at the moment , which did not suffer at all during the last few days of 40 degrees heat.
One of several clumps of Campanula x stansfieldii in my driveway - seems to enjoy a very spartan diet of about 90 % limestone chippings and 10 of loam.
and a paler shade in Cyclamen purpurascens - all my other plants are a darker crimson
Marcus is your Campanula x stansfieldii growing on your Juno slope ?
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It's a good seedlist though, Conan - full of interesting stuff to try on your windowsill... ;D
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"Petronymphe is not on our ICON database, unless it has a synonym?"
Bessera elegans? ;D ;)
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I'm enjoying 2 fairly common plants at the moment , which did not suffer at all during the last few days of 40 degrees heat.
One of several clumps of Campanula x stansfieldii in my driveway - seems to enjoy a very spartan diet of about 90 % limestone chippings and 10 of loam.
and a paler shade in Cyclamen purpurascens - all my other plants are a darker crimson
Marcus is your Campanula x stansfieldii growing on your Juno slope ?
Fairly common for you Otto, but I never see Campanula x stansfieldii here :( . It is certainly a beautiful Campanula!
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Things are slowly starting to get back to normal after the big downpour, flooding and the cleanup.
At least all that rain might have triggered some of the Lycoris species and hybrids to burst into flower, after a hot, dry resting period during the summer months, to promote and produced a splendid display of these beautiful spider lilies.
Lycoris can be temperamental and take a long time to settle down and to sus out their cultural requiremnts, but well worth the wait.
Sorry, just discovered I am in the wrong month, see you in February.
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Things are slowly starting to get back to normal after the big downpour, flooding and the cleanup.
At least all that rain might have triggered some of the Lycoris species and hybrids to burst into flower, after a hot, dry resting period during the summer months, to promote and produced a splendid display of these beautiful spider lilies.
Lycoris can be temperamental and take a long time to settle down and to sus out their cultural requiremnts, but well worth the wait.
Lycoris albiflora hyb.
Lycoris albiflora
Lycoris aurea
Lycoris chinensis
Lycoris hybrid
Lycoris hybrid 2
Lycoris rosea
Lycoris x haywardii
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Beautiful, Bill.
I love the albiflora, rosea and the hybrids. I don't think I can remember seeing those species before. Lycoris are rare things for me to flower, but I've been putting more into the ground so we'll see what happens with them in the future as they settle in. Fingers crossed. ;D You've certainly got some beauties, and you've obviously got their cultural requirements right for flowering now. I can only hope that will happen with me in the future.
Glad you're recovering from the flooding. I hope not too much was damaged? Did you retrieve the floating polyboxes you mentioned left the nursery?
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Just a little "first" for me - Petronymphe decora, a close relative of Bessera elegans, also from Mexico. Oh, and it took me four years from seed. :)
Rogan, that Petronymphe decora is an interesting, seldom come accross, exquisite species, wouldn't mind trying that from seed some times.
BTW: the Bessera elegans that was mentioned is just budding up for us, I am always looking forward to that display.
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Tigridia vanhouttei,
Cheers Dave, its a beauty.
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Yes Doug I would agree with you that's a real beauty.
Angie :)
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Doug,
Yours is a few days ahead of mine. The bud sheath is up there waiting, but as yet no actual flowers out on mine.
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Hi Everyone,
Wonderful plants and fabulous pictures! What a great gift for all of us and what a tremendous invention the Internet is. My mind spins when I contempate how far we have come in being able to "share our children" and talk across the world in an instant.
I have taken a break from packing bulbs to make some jam and take the camera quickly around the garden.
Here is a short series of shots.
Firstly, Campanula isophylla, I only have the white version but Fermi frequently beguiles me with suggestions that he has the blue tucked away up at Redesdale.
Next, Geranium "Rozanne", a poor photo of a superb summer flowerer.
Next, Geranium "Ballerina", I just love the crazy, scratchy striations on its flowers.
Lastly, Erodium "Spanish Eyes", a seriuosly impressive plant. At least I hope its this form, or maybe its "Natasha"? Marco Ryan from Lambleys patiently explained the difference but I still can't tell them apart.
Cheers, Marcus
PS Otto I have some of the campanula in the juno bed now.
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Hi again,
couple more then its back to the packing bench.
First is a rather weather-beaten few flowers of the lovely and now quite rare Geranium "Apple Blossom"
Next the good old summer stalwart, Campanula cochlearifolia (with bindweed).
Finally, a euphorbia that really impresses me, E. "Compton Heath" (with Balotta pseaudodictamnus, I think?). Does anyone know its breeding?
Cheers, Marcus
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Marcus,
Lovely photographs.
Can I take this opportunity to thank you for all the 'extras' you put into my package; things I never thought to see except on forums like this. Thanks very much.
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Will have to wait some months to see some flowers like thast here ::)
Next the good old summer stalwart, Campanula cochlearifolia (with bindweed).
Finally, a euphorbia that really impresses me, E. "Compton Heath" (with Balotta pseaudodictamnus, I think?). Does anyone know its breeding?
Cheers, Marcus
Marcus I never heard of that Euphorbia name, but maybe the right name is E. Copton Ash?
And looking the pics again I don't think the Camp. is cochlearifolia
The beautiful Geranium Apple Blossom is rare too here, it's a rather delicate (sensitive) plant.
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Tigridia vanhouttei,
Cheers Dave, its a beauty.
No problems Bud
Mine are at the same stage as Pauls.
Although individual flowers don't last long for me you should have others that will come on .
Pleased for the swops.
Cheers Dave.
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Hi Lvandelft,
Yes that's its name - it really is something as a foliage and filler plant, looks lovely in amongst the balottas and the artemisias. It does have one drawback - some of its stems are fasciated. Is this a common feature?
Can you tell me the name of the campanula?
The little Geranium "Appleblossom has been with me a long time and I have never thought to progagate it. But this summer I have struck 4 or 5 just in case. It is nowhere near as vigorous as Ballerina but very pretty with its soft, delicate flowers. I bought it from Woodbank Nursery, now sadly closed, from Ken Gillanders, a name some people will know on the Forum.
Thanks for the prompt to my memory - too much jam making!
Rob - thanks for the kind words. I don't remember what I included now. The orders go by in a blur.
Thanks for supporting me it is MUCH appreciated.
Cheers, Marcus
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Hi,
The temperatures may not suggest it, but we are kicking into autumn in Southern Australia. At least the bulbs think so. The first Easter lilies (Amaryllis belladonna) showed above ground on January 17 and I now have dozens in flower. The pale pink (pictured) that was in the old garden of this 100+ house is always the first to open. I have other cultivars such as deeper pinks and the white Hathor/Haythor that come up several weeks later (no sign of them as yet). Pehaps they’d rather wait until the 40C+ days are over
This year a Vallota lily (Cyrtanthus elatus) that has been sulking in the garden for years decided to bloom. I’m not sure what inspired it, perhaps the fact that we’ve had a little more rainfall than usual here (I’m not being sarcastic despite the rain that has been deluging other bits of Australia we’ve simply gone from nearly 10 years of below average rainfall to just above the long term average).
The hymenocallis are a few days away from blooming. Will try and post. Anita
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I do hope that you folks "way down south" know how much cheer your posts bring to those of us still battling dark days of winter weather? Thanks! 8)
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Hi Maggi,
Glad you like them. Our turn next to shiver and warm up on your northern summer snaps.
Just a few fairly hopeless pictures of lilies in my garden. I couldn't be bother getting down on my hands and knees to get the best angles. ;D
Lilium henryi, then, a greeny backed trumpet, and finally a L. speciousum hybrid, probably good old Wildfire or a seedling of it.
Cheers, Marcus
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Anita, please remember to post photos of your hymenocallises. This is a very complex genus to identify and subtle differences are not apparent.
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Now that the summer, and high temperatures are back again, quite a few of the larger summer flowering South African species putting up a colourful display,
Amaryllis belladonna is always a reliable species to flower, and this “Beacon” selection is one of my better reds to bloom.
Crinum species and hybrids are another genus I like, especially the colourful choice hybrid Crinum “Ellen Bosanquet” and the pure white Crinum x powellii Album.
Another rare and difficult one to flower is the beautiful Cyrtanthus herrei, that produces pendulous pale orange and green flowers in late summer that rival any display by any other species.
Not to forget the popular Scadoxus multiflora ssp.katherinae, another spectacular species, an ideal subject for the shady garden.
Amaryllis belladonna
Crinum x powellii Album
Crinum “Ellen Bosanquet”
Cyrtanthus herrei
Scadoxus multiflora ssp.katherinae
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Nice, Bill. I'm guessing that the belladonna and the Crinum are actually dark pink, rather than that electric red-pink that they've come out in the photos (if only they really came in that colour.... you'd need sunglasses just to walk in the garden ;D)? That Cyrtanthus is so beautiful too.
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Nice, Bill. I'm guessing that the belladonna and the Crinum are actually dark pink, rather than that electric red-pink that they've come out in the photos (if only they really came in that colour.... you'd need sunglasses just to walk in the garden ;D)? That Cyrtanthus is so beautiful too.
Paul, yes the Amaryllis belladonna picture was taken late in the day and perhaps a little under exposed, the flowers were already nearly a week old as well and getting darker, but the Crinum "Ellen Bosanquet" was really a very dark rosy-red colour, one of the darkest shades of all the Crinum hybrids.
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Bill,
My camera struggles a bit with red/pinks as well, but I've noticed that with those and the blue/purples your pics come out as much more intense than I guess they are in reality. I know in the past that some of the pics I was posting were actually a bit bleached because my monitor was actually coming out darker than it should have been, so I had to lighten pics up to get them "true to life" (or at least true to life on my computer ::))... when I replaced my computer after a crash I discovered that my old monitor was showing so differently to what the camera was actually taking when viewed on another computer. I just never realised it until I got a new monitor. I know that this monitor is pretty accurate, but I wonder how many of us are missing details or getting colours more/less intense darker/lighter because of our monitors without even realising it? The camera problems always seems to be multiplied on the red/pinks and the blue/purples whenever it happens. ;D Maybe our cameras just like pastels rather than primary colours. ;D ;D
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Glad you're flowering your belladonnas.... I have a few recalcitrant ones that will not flower for me for anything (some have been in for more than 10 years) and the multiflora hybrids are always later than the straight belladonnas. I have a dark pink perhaps similar in colour to yours, but mine has much more spidery petals. It's in a pot, so I don't expect there to be any flowers this year. :'(
Thanks again for the pics.
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A wonderfull plant Rogan, I want to grow that commercial, how do I get it?
Wim
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It's a good seedlist though, Conan - full of interesting stuff to try on your windowsill... ;D
There are a few interesting things :( lol
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A wonderfull plant Rogan, I want to grow that commercial, how do I get it?
Wim
Wim, its good to see you on this most popular, infomative, friendly forum.
We all know you grow a large selection of the most beautiful, rare and unsual bulbs, and we're all looking forward to see more pictures of your exquisite collection of bulbs,
Welcome on board
Bill
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Bill, you need to get out of the Southern Hemisphere pages into the rest of the Forum a bit more ;D... Wim has been around nearly a year.... see these for instance ...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5164.0
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6562.0
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I found a rare southern visitor in my garden today.... seemed to be gathering with others of his kind.... wonder if I should be posting this in the Wildlife thread ::)
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Likely lads, all of them. ;D
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Campanula isophylla, I only have the white version but Fermi frequently beguiles me with suggestions that he has the blue tucked away up at Redesdale.
Marcus
Sorry that I still haven't managed to propagate this one for you!
Here's another beguiling pic of Campanula isophylla "Blue form" (it has a commercial name but I've forgotten it!)
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Maggi
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cheers
fermi
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Ahhh, Fermi I know you are trying to torture me! Dangling that thing just in from of me but so so out of reach.
If it has a commercial name then where do you think it would be? Do you have the white established now? Heavens knows where that originated I got it out of my Mum's garden.
Cheers, Marcus
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Marcusi,
I think I too have a white isophylla, and a blue that I bought as "Blue Pearl" (or something like that, I'd need to check the name) but without the species name. Lovely, tight, low Campanulas with large upward facing flowers. The only reason I am guessing my blue is isophylla is that is looks so much like my white one. Does that about sound right? I can photograph for you if you'd like, as the blue is in flower right now?
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Bill, you need to get out of the Southern Hemisphere pages into the rest of the Forum a bit more ;D... Wim has been around nearly a year.... see these for instance ...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5164.0
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6562.0
Thanks Maggi, you're right, I must have a look more often what's going on in the rest of the world.
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Some other things in flower now,
Zephyranthes flavissima, I took Alberto C's advice and give it a lot more water
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Clematis "Golden Tiara" still has a few bloom sbut is mostly fluffy seed - does anyone know whether this will be viable?
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Emerging near the Habranthus tubispathus are the first spikes of Lycoris incarnata, the fist of the lycoris for the season
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cheers
fermi
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Thanks Maggi, you're right, I must have a look more often what's going on in the rest of the world.
Bill,
I can understand why you don't though with all the great stuff you are already growing!
That Cyrtanthus is so reminescent of a species fuchsia!
lovely stuff!
cheers
fermi
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I found a rare southern visitor in my garden today.... seemed to be gathering with others of his kind.... wonder if I should be posting this in the Wildlife thread ::)
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I have a suspicion Mr Newall is in trousers Maggi --if so it must be damn cold ......... ;D
Cheers Dave.
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Some other things in flower now,
Zephyranthes flavissima, I took Alberto C's advice and give it a lot more water
Clematis "Golden Tiara" still has a few bloom sbut is mostly fluffy seed - does anyone know whether this will be viable?
Emerging near the Habranthus tubispathus are the first spikes of Lycoris incarnata, the fist of the lycoris for the season
fermi
Fermi, the Habranthus look most sprightly coming up through the low artemisia plants (that is artemisia isn't it?). Love the Clematis too.
-15 C here right now, so it's nice seeing some warm colors.
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I found a rare southern visitor in my garden today.... seemed to be gathering with others of his kind.... wonder if I should be posting this in the Wildlife thread ::)
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I have a suspicion Mr Newall is in trousers Maggi --if so it must be damn cold ......... ;D
Cheers Dave.
Is he going soft in his old age, Dave? :D ... And is that TEA in his hand? It can't be the same bloke!
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Fermi, the Habranthus look most sprightly coming up through the low artemisia plants (that is artemisia isn't it?). Love the Clematis too.
-15 C here right now, so it's nice seeing some warm colors.
Hi Mark,
yes, that is an artemesia - it is sold here as A. schmidtiana "Nana" but isn't herbaceous so it's another mis-named plant! I think it is possibly A. pedemontana but not sure. I use it a lot in the Rock garden but it needs to be sheared once it flowers as they add nothing to its appearance.
cheers
fermi
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Re the clematis seed, it may depend on which species it is, (given a cultivar name). I have C. (what was) orientalis L&S 13342, and though the seed looks fat and fertile, it has never self-sown and nor has any germinated that I've sown in a pot. On the other hand C. akebioides is so fertile and viable, one'sproperty can be swamped in no time flat. It is a menace becasue it's impossible to collect up all the seed before it flies away, or at all. in fact.
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It's absolutely beautiful Lesley, just look at those thick lemon-peel petals.
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Clematis orientalis L&S 13342 (I think it is in C.vernayi now) is a choice plant though it is vigorous and needs a hard cut back at least every second year. But C. akebioides seeds everywhere and will cover anyone's motorbike if he is silly enough to leave it out of the shed for a while.
Then there's C. tangutica which I don't have nowadays and it used to have very fertile seed but I never found self-sowings around the garden.
Golly Mark, that was quick!
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Hi Paul,
I've never seen the blue form "in the flesh". I am led to believe that the one in Australia has more hairy leaves but I can't vouche for this.
Seeing Lesley has showcased a few clematis.
I will offer my two forms of C. viticella, the first is a selected one and the second taken as a little seedling from Otto Fauser's garden at Olinda. The other two pics are Cyclamen purpurascens and C. hederifolium "Stargazer respectively.
Cheers, Marcus
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Great Clematis everyone.
Marcus,
Are the seedlings of Stargazer stable? I'm assuming they must be given that seed is pretty much the only easy way to propagate cyclamen to any degree. Have you had differences in seedlings? Is that a pure white in the background? It looks interesting, although I'm sure there are purists all having conniptions as we speak. ;D
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I've never seen the blue form "in the flesh". I am led to believe that the one in Australia has more hairy leaves but I can't vouche for this.
Hi Marcus,
the original blue form I had back in the 1990's was a hirsute form and I wondered if it really was C. isophylla but the current form is simply a blue version of the "typical" white one.
Lesley,
"Golden Tiara" is either a hybrid or a selection made by the Teeses in Monbulk, Victoria but I don't know it's heritage.
cheers
fermi
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Marcus,
Apologies, my blue one is Campanula carpatica, not isophylla. Very similar in appearance to my white isophylla though, which is why I thought it was an isophylla. I checked the pot today and found out it's correct species. Sorry I don't have the blue for you. :'(
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I found a rare southern visitor in my garden today.... seemed to be gathering with others of his kind.... wonder if I should be posting this in the Wildlife thread ::)
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I have a suspicion Mr Newall is in trousers Maggi --if so it must be damn cold ......... ;D
Cheers Dave.
Yes, Dave, he was fully covered... it's cold and wet here. He's carrying a tea cup, it's true.....
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Steve in trousers and trainers is unheard of. But of course we don't know what is IN that cup. Tea isn't the only amber liquid. ;D
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Steve in trousers and trainers is unheard of. But of course we don't know what is IN that cup. Tea isn't the only amber liquid. ;D
I've only met Steve at the NZAGS weekends but it does look "NQR"! ::)
As that's a SRGC mug presumebaly it's a wee dram!
Paul,
that thumping sound you hear is Marcus hitting his head against the wall ;D
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Even more thumping due then (but maybe in a good way?)...... I've just been looking on the web as to the differences between isophylla and carpatica and read the following.....
With proper care all the isophyllas will flower repeatedly (three weeks after the end of the previous flowering period), unlike the plants in the other group, i.e. Campanula carpatica, which will only flower again following cold treatment. Another difference is that C. isophylla is propagated from cuttings, while carpatica is propagated from seed. The type of flower is also different, isophylla has a flatter flower, which is more open and gives a better view of the stamens. Carpatica has a bell shaped flower, which is why the Dutch call it bell flower.
Mine would DEFINITELY be propagated from cuttings, in fact is is stoloniferous and could be easily divided into smaller bits. The flowers of mine are definitely open bowls, not quite flat but certainly not bell shaped, and you have a great view of the stamens. So I am assuming therefore that mine is isophylla, or at least a hybrid thereof. I don't think mine will keep on flowering throughout summer repeatedly though. So now I am not entirely sure WHAT my blue one is. ???
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The better forms of C. carpatica are also propagated from cuttings or small, slightly rooted offsets. Equally, C. isophylla and (the generally similar) C. fragilis, can be propagated from seed. The flowers of carpatica vary tremendously in shape Paul, only some are bell-shaped and not, in my opinion, the better ones. But it is a more compact, "rounded" plant especially in the tight forms like 'Maie Blyth' while isophylla in all its forms is somewhat sprawling and will dangle down the side of a raised bed, to a length of 50cms if really happy. In my experience the white form has green glabrous leaves and stems while the blue has somewhat furred or pubescent leaves and stems. Same applies to doubles of both colours.
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Hi Paul
Yes it is from the Stargazer strain but I don't find it very stable. The flowers remind me of a clutch of little featherless birds all vying to be the one that gets the drop of the worm. Interesting, somewhat alarming but not beautiful.
Gosh this C. Isahella discussion is hotting up. Now Lesley is beguiling me with tales of doubles in both colour forms!!! :o
Are these in NZ?
I have lots of C. Coptic, different leaves, as Lesley says, different habit, different shaped flower, the former's are flattened star-shaped (hence its common name of Italian Stars) and the latter's are essentially disk-shaped. In mine the former's stigma is entire and the latter's triffid.
C. carpartica is an easy seeder and spreads around by underground stolons. C. Isahella has, as Lesley says, long, twiggy, fragile, tendill-like branches but rare does it root down from these (for me anyway and obviously ditto for Fermi otherwise he would have had more success striking it ;D)
The white form is easily propagated from cuttings in the summer and even from very tiny basal pieces with a bit of root in winter. Its a lovely addition to the rock garden because as Lesley says it sprawls luxuriantly over rocks, boulders, walls and flowers repeated right into late autumn.
I wonder why the white form is the odd one out with the glabrous leaves? And if all the whites are like this?
Cheers, Marcus
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Sorry something has gone awfully wrong with the italics thingy on my last post. I KNOW I am often in a rush and my fingers are flying (at times not very successfully) across the keyboard but that is ridiculous! I hope you catch my drift - " I have lots of C. carpatica" might throw people.
Cheers, Marcus
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I think "spellcheck" maybe providing some diferent interpretations of what you mean - unless you do have a Campanula "Coptic" (a Greek endemic? ;D )
And again I state that the blue form I have of C. isophylla is not pubescent or hairy! >:(
cheers
fermi
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Are these in NZ?
Yes. :D
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A few things flowering here at this time.
Tigridia
Cypella coelestris
Roscoea purpura var procera.
Scilla scilloides
bye Ray
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Ray,
That is one spectacular pink Tigridia!! :o :o :o :o Amazing colour! And that Scilla scilloides is gorgeous as well.
Marcus,
I've emailed you about C. isophylla 'Stella Blue'. My C. carpatica variety is called 'Deep Blue Pearl' I think, if that helps. As Lesley says, it is a lovely and compact and rounded mound in the pot, with huge upward facing flowers.
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Hello Everybody,
I have a few more campanula, etc. to post.
The first is "my" C. carpatica, from generations of seedlings around the rock garden.
The next is another "persister" (if there is such a word) that just keeps on hanging on without a jot of help, C. arvatica.
The next is C. cochlearifolia Elizabeth Oliver, its fragile and refined bearing belies its toughness.
Then one I'm not sure of, plucked as seed from the top of the Taygetos Mountains pass when looking for Crocus sieberi ssp nivalis in pine woods, C. spatula?
And finally a lovely, spidery, deliciously maroon erodium, E. sidioides.
Cheers, Marcus
PS Fermi sorry I got the hairiness factor mixed over C. isophylla
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Marcus like your E.sidioides is it really as dark as the picture shows.
Angie :)
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There is a Campanula patula. Not, I think, C. spatula. You'll find that in one of my kitchen drawers, along with the spurtles. :)
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There is a Campanula patula.
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That looks pretty much like Marcus's don't you think? Same shape, veining and throat, just a little deeper coloured.
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Hi Lesley,
Sorry :-[ I didn't spell the name of the campanula correctly in my post - it was correctly spelt on the pic label.
C. spatulata is a frequently occuring Greek species with ssp filicaulis endemic to Crete, ssp spruneriana (larger pale blue flowers) and ssp guiseppi (trailing stems and wider flowers). My reference books have a a couple of pics that look similar to my plant so I don't know which species it is. I'll take a closer look today.
Cheers, Marcus
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Hi Angie,
Yes E. sidioides is a velvety, rich, maroon. In the sunlight it picks up the red tones more but it is a dark little devil. I like it a lot but I still rather like the somewhat brazen pink, butterfly flowers of E. endlischerianum. Cheers, Marcus
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Marcus like Angie I love the colour of E. sidioides.
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Howdy again,
On the Campanula spatulata vs C. patula discussion - they hav every similar flowers but my plants have spatula-like leaves. Here is a photo of the former http://www.plant-animal-photos.co.uk/greecegallery85.html
Does anyone have a photo of C. patula which includes the leaves?
Cheers, Marcus
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Hi Angie,
Yes E. sidioides is a velvety, rich, maroon. In the sunlight it picks up the red tones more but it is a dark little devil. I like it a lot but I still rather like the somewhat brazen pink, butterfly flowers of E. endlischerianum. Cheers, Marcus
Marcus, our Forum specialist on Erodium, etc. Mark Smyth seemingly is suffering from White Fever ;D ;D , therefore I must say that these Erodium are in fact Pelargonium from S. Africa,
Just Pelargonium endlicherianum comes from Little Asia
Cannot help on the Camp. question.
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Hi Angie,
Yes E. sidioides is a velvety, rich, maroon. In the sunlight it picks up the red tones more but it is a dark little devil. I like it a lot but I still rather like the somewhat brazen pink, butterfly flowers of E. endlischerianum. Cheers, Marcus
Marcus, our Forum specialist on Erodium, etc. Mark Smyth seemingly is suffering from White Fever ;D ;D , therefore I must say that these Erodium are in fact Pelargonium from S. Africa,
Just Pelargonium endlicherianum comes from Little Asia
Cannot help on the Camp. question.
Thanks, Yes I think the White fever has got a lot of our forum members. But saying this if they are going to go down with something at least it's those lovely little white gems.
I will go and have a look to see if I can source these pelargoniums here in the UK.
Marcus looking forward to see some more pictures 8)
Angie :)
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Hi Everyone,
Sorry mia culpa :-[ - thanks Lvandelft for pointing it out. Pelagonium was what I MEAN'T to say but somehow erodium popped up in my brain instead. What with patula - spatula and now this, my reputation as a plant person is taking a beating ;D.
No problemo Angie I'm not going to stop posting. My biggest problem is time, I am in the thick of my bulb orders right now. I have my first crocus appearing this week, C. vallicola, kortschyanus ssp hakkariensis and C. serotinus ssp clusii, scary! Where's the summer gone?
Cheers, Marcus
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Marcus, some wrong names doesn't mean being a less good plant person ;)
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besides, there's always someone who'll point out the correct name!
The Acis autumnalis is going berserk at the moment! The cooler weather recently must have it convinced that autumn is here!
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A new flower for us is this Galtonia regalis which we got 9 years ago as a potful of seedlings from Gordon Julian (Tasmania) and this neglected pot is the only one to finally produce a flower! More by good luck than good management I'm sad to say. Obviously needs more water than I've been providing!
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This clump of Lycoris incarnata is in full bloom
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And this native Amaryllid, Calostemma purpureum is following suit,
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Calostemmas flowering stems are popping up everywhere that they grow naturally around here.
How far down are the Calostemma bulbs below ground in your part of the Oz? When I have tried to dig any up I think I have gone deep enough and find that I haven't or I have sliced off part of the bulb or worse the flowering stem. They must be a good 12" down.
Acis is bulb that I have not tried - must try some sometime.
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Hi,
Few more photos from Adelaide. Amaryllis belladonna 1 is a simply a better flower cluster on the early blooming group in my garden. A. belladonna is the first of the darker pinks to get going. The hymenocallis are now in full bloom. It’s just hard getting a decent shot, everytime I try to take a pic the wind starts gusting! I bought these years ago as Ismene x festalis, they've now bulked up nicely and I've got more than a dozen plants under the Magnolia grandiflora - unfortunately my vision of white flowers beneath the white magnolias hasn't worked. The magnolia always finishes before the Hymenocallis start! Finally a Crinum, bought as C. macowanni Boekel’s Beauty. Not only does it produce magnificent blooms but they are scented too (but then so are the belladonnas and the hymenocallis).
Anita
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Lovely pictures - just a reminder that forum photos are best resized to 760 pixels wide, please. ;)
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Howdy all,
Lovely pictures everyone!
Cheers, Marcus
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Fermi, Acis auiumnalis oporanthum has been in flower for two weeks now here in Buenos Aires. It is amazing that the same plants are invariably in flower at the same time in Oz, South America and Sout Africa!
Anita, your Ismene (not Hymenocallis) could be something else and not 'Festalis' that flowers in December or so. Right now, a hybrid Ismene, 'Bucaneer' is in flower but looks daintier than yours.
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Fermi, Acis auiumnalis oporanthum has been in flower for two weeks now here in Buenos Aires. It is amazing that the same plants are invariably in flower at the same time in Oz, South America and Sout Africa!
And don't forget New Zealand Alberto. Acis autumnnalis is in full flower here too. No crocuses yet but first Cyc hederifolium out this week.
Marcus, summer was those two days we had last week. ;D
Alberto is there much difference between Acis autumnnalis and v. oporanthum? I can't see any at all but the latter may be mis-named. It was raised from one of the seed lists.
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[Anita, your Ismene (not Hymenocallis) could be something else and not 'Festalis' that flowers in December or so. Right now, a hybrid Ismene, 'Bucaneer' is in flower but looks daintier than yours.
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Hi Alberto,what I know as Ismene x festalis in this country never flowers in Dec,for me it always flowers in late summer.bye Ray
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[Anita, your Ismene (not Hymenocallis) could be something else and not 'Festalis' that flowers in December or so. Right now, a hybrid Ismene, 'Bucaneer' is in flower but looks daintier than yours.
Hi Alberto,what I know as Ismene x festalis in this country never flowers in Dec,for me it always flowers in late summer.bye Ray
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...and I bought some bulbs last week in England that are just beginning to shoot!
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Marcus,
Crocus already!! :o :o :o :o Hopefully you'll show us a pic of the vallicola, which is the one with the pointy tips isn't it?
Fermi,
Similar things in flower here, at least from the Acis and Calostemma points of view anyway. Would love to get more colours of Calostemma if I could ever find them, but so hard to come by. Mine usually do not flower, so it looks like my sinking them into the top level of the crocus garden might just be working to give them the extra depth that they need for flowering. First year to get a flower on them (and at this stage, only a single stem), but non-the-less a good thing and hopefully a sign of future years. ;D
Anita,
A couple of belladonnas are in flower here already, but not many as yet. No idea what our strange weather this year will do to their flowering this year. We've had rain today, so I'm waiting to see whether the Rhodophiala all start putting up flowers, or whether we've not had enough summer to stimulate them to flower this year.
Thanks for the pics everyone.
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The effects of the weather are producing some curious happenings for me.
Absolutely no sign of any movement from Acis, belladonna or crocus.
I had a single Sprekelia bloom open this morning in the middle of a clump that flowered months ago??
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Lesley, var. oporanthum flowers without any foliage. Var. pulchellum flowers with the foliage visible. Both do exist, but these are the only differences.
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Just a few more of the late summer flowering species that bloomed over the last fortnight.
The large sweetly scented trumpets of Amaryllis belladonna alba is always one of the easiest bulbs for naturalising in a warm well-drained positions.
Galtonia viridiflora produces unusual greenish flowers up to 1 m tall in summer,it prefers a sandy soil and partial shade for better performance.
Haemanthus alba and a nice pink flowering Haemanthus humilus mostly emerge without the foliage and often prompted by heavy rain.
The Rhodophiala bifida is a close relative of the Hippeastrum, and typically have much narrower leaves and smaller bulbs with distinctive narrow necks and often pull themselves deep into the pots and sometimes through the bottom, the lustrous pinkish red to maroon trumpet flowers with prominent golden anthers, always make a striking debut.
The last one is the Stenomesson miniatum and the currently accepted botanical name but it still commonly known by its synonym as Urceolina peruviana.
Still very warm for the time of the season with temps up to 30°C during the day, high humidity and night temps up to 20°C or more.
Amaryllus belladonna
Galtonia viridiflora
Haemanthus alba
Haemanthus humilis
Rhodophiala bifida
Urceolina peruvianum
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Bill,
Great pics as always. Is your Urceolina really this late? Mine flowered ages ago, yet my belladonnas have only had one or two stems as yet (this may mean they aren't going to flower this year due to all our rain ::)) and my Haemanthus I don't expect for weeks yet. I don't grow H. humilis though, or not mature as yet. I didn't realise it even came in pink, and that is a beautiful pink. I am VERY jealous. ;D
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Bill,
Great pics as always. Is your Urceolina really this late? Mine flowered ages ago, yet my belladonnas have only had one or two stems as yet (this may mean they aren't going to flower this year due to all our rain ::)) and my Haemanthus I don't expect for weeks yet. I don't grow H. humilis though, or not mature as yet. I didn't realise it even came in pink, and that is a beautiful pink. I am VERY jealous. ;D
Paul, the Urceolina peruviana picture was taken 2-3 weeks ago, and believe it or not, photographed from bulbs flowering dry in the trays. :D :)
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Bill some real treasures there. I do like your Haemanthus humilis. I do have this plant ( due to a kind forum member )but as yet haven't had it flower. So it's something for me to look forward to. Thanks for posting the pictures.
Angie :)
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Lesley, var. oporanthum flowers without any foliage. Var. pulchellum flowers with the foliage visible. Both do exist, but these are the only differences.
My two potsful have short leaves but the patch in the garden doesn't but I think it's just because it's bone dry where the Acis is. It is NOT what I had as v. oporanthum.
I'll have the double Galtonia candicans 'Moonbeam' out soon. Pic in due course.
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Lesley,
I hope you don't mind, but I've just prepared some pics and they include Galtonia 'Moonbeam'......
Also some pics of the Campanula carpatica 'Pearl Deep Blue' that we mentioned earlier in this topic.
And a crepe myrtle, in this case a variety called 'Natchez'.
Enjoy.
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A couple more....
A Cyclamen hederifolium starting into flower now.
A Zephyranthes I received as labuffarosea but I think we worked out it wasn't (and that that wasn't the right spelling anyway! ;)). Pretty, whichever it is. :D
I've also posted last night some pics in the ID area, a couple of pics of a Calostemma down in the Amaryllidaceae section, and I'm about to post a couple of pics of Diplodium coccineum in the orchid area, just in case any are interested. 8)
Have a great day. 8) 8)
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Yes, I DO mind. You should be at work at this hour. As soon as I posted that I thought "probably Paul T will have one up there before I can." >:(
;D ;D ;D
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Lesley,
I'm surprised that Bill D didn't get them up here weeks ago. So often he gets in a week or two before mine are in flower. ::)
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Yes, I DO mind. You should be at work at this hour. As soon as I posted that I thought "probably Paul T will have one up there before I can." >:(
;D ;D ;D
;D When I saw you say about the double Galtonia, Lesley, my thought was of surprise at you growing a double! It looks a pretty enough thing, though... if it is robust enough I could imagine it being a successful florists' blooom, but not one I expected you to be growing :o ;)
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Maggi,
The flower stem is well over a metre tall, so fairly robust. ;D
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A couple more pics from yesterday.....
A pink form of Hibiscus 'Southern Belle'
Seedpods of Clematis viticella
A basket of Bacopa and Heuchera. I've just got this sitting in the top of a blue glazed pot at present, which actually works quite well in the position it is in. ;D
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I'm surprised that Bill D didn't get them up here weeks ago. So often he gets in a week or two before mine are in flower. ::)
Yes I might as well keep up the habit of getting the plants to flower noticeable earlier than the rest and this time with the beautiful Bessera elegans.
Don't forget our climate and the specifics that most of our plants/bulbs are grown in pots/containers, will all add to them flowering that little bit sooner.
Paul, did you manage to find your Bessera's? I am also pleased you managed to keep yours Lesley, otherwise I can always spare a few more.
Anyway, these small corms have grassy leaves and stems carry numerous dainty flowers shaped like small parachutes, ranging in colour from bright red to pink or purple.
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Just a few more interesting perennial plants flowering for us at the moment, with a couple of the pictures without a name.
Could someone ID them for me please? Thanks.
Campanulata EK Toogood
Convolvulus Blue Lake
Odontospermum Gold Coin
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Maggi, surprisingly (to me) the double galtonia is a lovely thing. It was first isolated I think, at a Tauranga (where Bill comes from) nursery called Parva Plants, now near Christchurch. Named 'Moonbeam' it was extensively micropropagated and released to an unsuspecting public and is indeed mostly grown now as a florists' flower, down this way at least. I had half a dozen bulbs when I lived north of here and never had a flower but was given a few more recently and these are about to bloom nicely. The individual flowers are rather gardenia-like.
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The lower one looks like a Pelargonium Bill, don't know which and the white could be either a Pratia or Scaveola.
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The lower one looks like a Pelargonium Bill, don't know which and the white could be either a Pratia or Scaveola.
Could the white one be a Lobelia
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Maggi, surprisingly (to me) the double galtonia is a lovely thing. It was first isolated I think, at a Tauranga (where Bill comes from) nursery called Parva Plants, now near Christchurch. Named 'Moonbeam' it was extensively micropropagated and released to an unsuspecting public and is indeed mostly grown now as a florists' flower, down this way at least. I had half a dozen bulbs when I lived north of here and never had a flower but was given a few more recently and these are about to bloom nicely. The individual flowers are rather gardenia-like.
Yes, I see what you mean about gardenia like... I think that's what I liked about it too. I could see it being a lovely bridal flower.
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Bill,
Until I get a flower I'm not going to know if what is in that pot is Bessera or not, unfortunately! ::) Frustrating. I've never seen other than the normal orange/red iridescent colour here in Australia.
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I have not come across Bessera elegans before - how really lovely. Must try to source seed or bulbs.
Pat
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Hi there,
Just a couple of average crocus pics for Paul.
Vallicola
serotinus ssp clusii
kotschyanus ssp hakkariensis
The last I obtained from Dr Pilous, it has an upright corm but it doesn't look the same as stocks I had from JJA seed. These were more violet, and as stated in Mathew, more "wedge-shaped".
Cheers, Marcus
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Nice crocus, Marcus; none out here yet!
The Belladonna Lilies aren't as floriferous this year despite the extra rain - just wasn't hot enough I guess. This is the cerise/deep pink one common in the area,
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My favourite combination of morning and evening! Ipomaea sp (Morning Glory) and Oenothera acaulis (Evening primrose) taken yesterday morning,
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The first flower on Lilium speciosum rubrum "Uchida" which will hopefully do better as the tree cover increases (it got a bit burnt on the few hot days that occurred this summer!)
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cheers
fermi
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Waouh Paul ! I have just discovered now your Galtonia Moonbeam, such a beauty :D
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This is the first time I have grown Brugmansia and its looking pretty good at this time,what do you reckon Gail.
bye Ray
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Ray, your Brugmansia is a really healthy looking plant and a super colour.
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Ray,
Niiiice! I have one growing here as well, but only a small one in a pot against a wall to protect it from the cold. It does flower on occasions, but nothing even close to your wonderful display!! 8)
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This is the first time I have grown Brugmansia and its looking pretty good at this time,what do you reckon Gail.
bye Ray
Wow - that is a good flush of flower, is it scented? Sadly I've lost a lot of mine overwinter this year.
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Datura inoxia is in flower for me now. Lovely perfume when the flowers open at night (hence the opening flower has flash in use), and the flower collapses sometime during the next day/evening. I quite like the difference between them... there's a different texture when they're fresh or old.
The first pic is yesterday morning of an older flower, then the second pic is of a fresh flower opening yesterday evening.
Enjoy. 8)
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Nice Paul - I must get some more seed sown; I had it a couple of years ago and it is one of my favourites for scent.
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Gail,
It's one of those scents that is strong, but not stomach-churning. Very nice, particularly when wafting from a distance.
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Datura inoxia is in flower for me now. Lovely perfume when the flowers open at night (hence the opening flower has flash in use), and the flower collapses sometime during the next day/evening. I quite like the difference between them... there's a different texture when they're fresh or old.
The first pic is yesterday morning of an older flower, then the second pic is of a fresh flower opening yesterday evening.
Enjoy. 8)
Lovely--worthy of Georgia O'Keefe!
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The Rhodophiala bifida have come into flower
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And the fabulous Lycoris sprengeri, three stems this year! A record breaker! ;D
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cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi,
Fabulously exotic flowers!
Cheers, Marcus
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Fermi,
I've not flowered sprengerii as yet. Well done!!!!! 8) I think I still have it. I put a couple of species into the ground last year, so I expect they are building up size now and hopefully there might be some flowers next year. The Lycoris elsae is due to open their first flowers in the next day or two, for the second year in a row, so I think they're nicely settled and building size now. If only I had the space to put more things into the ground. ;D
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The Lycoris elsae is due to open their first flowers in the next day or two, for the second year in a row, so I think they're nicely settled and building size now.
Hi Paul,
did they flower so early for you last year? I think mine didn't appear till mid-March in 2010. No sign of them or any others (other than the 2 I've already shown) here yet.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi, that Lycoris is an amazing colour.
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Hi Anne,
yes, that blue staining on the petals seems to indicate that sometime, someday someone will breed a blue lycoris.
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cheers
fermi
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Hedychium is a rhizomatous, mainly subtropical genus in the Zingiberaceae or Ginger family.
Many have very attractive flowers, often beautifully perfumed..
They are hardier than most people realise and given a warm south facing wall with a protective mulch in winter, they will survive reasonable frosts
Hedychium coccineum “Tara” and Hedychium densiflorum “Assam Orange” are both colourful specimen well worth growing.