Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Wim de Goede on January 23, 2011, 11:18:44 AM
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Hello everyone, my first post for the new year, we made a start to bring the bulbs in flower for the flower show in Breezand at the second of March.
The photo inside shows the varieties who need a long heath period like;
Muscari Peppermint,Scilla litardieri,Narcis watieri, N Diamond Ring,Ipheion Jessie,I Charlorre Bishop, I Alberto Castillo,Fritillaria biflora. temp 18 C
The second photo taken outside shows the varieties who waiting for the ride date the bring them inside about 60 varieties.
When you like , I can inform you the whole period through.
Wim
PS I am not sure the photo's came trough, please let me know
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Only one photo through, Wim........ when you add the first picture by clicking Additional Options, you must then click the "more attachments" each time to allow loading of each extra photo.
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Thank you Maggi for the advise, I knew I did something wrong, I send you hereby the first photo inside
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Yesterday we brought in all the Fritillaria's about 24 varities and the Tecophilae 3 varities a unknown Galanthus and Crocus minimus Bavella.
wim
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Yesterday we brought in all the Fritillaria's about 24 varities and the Tecophilae 3 varities a unknown Galanthus and Crocus minimus Bavella.
wim
My goodness, so, on the 26th January you brought in the Fritillarias to be ready for the 2nd of March (or maybe second week in March.... I wasn't clear?) that is hardly five weeks, such a short time.... I'd have thought it took longer.
I was surprised enough when you began the thread that the plants would be ready so fast!
I do hope you will keep showing us the pictures as they progress.
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photo of FRITILLARIA'S
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Maggi I think in three weeks time I have to bring them in the cool store but I will show when they come in flower
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Thanks, Wim. They are well advanced already, I see .
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This week we ad to the greenhouse on the cold floor;
Anemone bland Radar and Bleu Shade
Corydalis solida Beth Evans, GP Baker and Incisa
Scilla Indra
Narcis romieuxii (Julia Jane)?
Crocus Chr. Ard Schenk
Pleione formosa
And it become Spring outside in the garden;
Ranuncul kochii
Crocus korelkowii " Januari Gold"
Eranthus hyemalis
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A Monday 7 Februari we had had for the KAVB judging in Lisse
Narcis romieuxii (Julia Jane)
,, ,, cordubensii
,, ,, minor Douglasbank
Iris No 87-DQ-1 we think about to name it "Spot on" it is a Hybrid of Alan McMurtrie
,, Katharine Hodgkin
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Today we ad to the greenhouse from out the cooling ,the Iris reticulata like Katharine Hodgkin,Sheila Ann Germaney,Lady Beatrix Stanley,Halkis,histrio and Palm Spring and olso Colchicum triphylum,Crocus Januari Gold and Ranuncul kochii.
The first Fritillaria's are in flower like;
Frit. pinardii Ole Sonderhouse
hybrid pinardii x aurea
stenanthera (good form)
bucharica
michailovskyi
pudica Fragrance
amana Gokzun Gold
reuteri
hermonis var amana
And my grandson's are planting Tulps for "Bulbs & Bollen '
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Here some varieties who are ready for the show
1 Here some varieties we keep a couple of day's cool
2 Tecophilaea cyanocrocus
3 ,, ,, ,, ,, Leightlinii
4 Fritillaria aurea Robust form
5 ,, ,, olivieri
6 ,, ,, michailovskyi
7 ,, ,, aurea x pinardii
8 ,, ,, amana Gokzun Gold
9 Arum creticum
10 Galanthus No G-01-08
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Wim,
did you "cool-down" the bulbs in this part of the glasshouse(drop down the temperature) ? Or is this the normal way to rise the temperature and hold this temperature?
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Good to see your grandsons being brought up to know what's good for them Wim. :)
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Good to see your grandsons being brought up to know what's good for them Wim. :)
Lucky to have such cute lads..... which reminds me.... I was going to ask, Wim.... are they twins?
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Onion I try to keep that part of the greenhouse on 6-9 C , in the night it is not so difficult but on the day when it is suny then it is a hard job.
Lesley they are wonderful boy's
Maggie they are no twins there is 2 years in between
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Lesley they are wonderful boy's
Maggie they are no twins there is 2 years in between
Fancy that they look so alike....... we would say they look like "two peas in a pod" ;D 8) 8)
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Onion, I forgot to tell way we do this, it is to get more length on the stem and to get a better coller on the flower
Wim
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Wim,
very important information. Thank you.
Uli
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Here some more;
1 Galanthus No G-01-08
2 Fritillaria crassifolia "Wisley form"
3 ,, ,, minuta
4 ,, ,, bucharica"white form"
5 ,, ,, biflora
6 Ipheion Alberto Castillo
7 ,, ,, Jessie
8 Narcis Idol
9 ,, ,, cordubensis
10 Scilla Indra
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I toke the wrong picture for Narcis Idol, so this is Idol
Narcissus 'Idol'
(edit by maggi to add plant name)
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I toke the wrong picture for Narcis Idol, so this is Idol
Wim - you beat me to it, your first pic looked like N. cordubensis.. I'm surprised you have 'Idol' since at least 3 forumists (including me) have reported that bulbs of 'Idol' only last one year.
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I had the same experience Gerry.... >:(
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I had the same experience Gerry.... >:(
Yes Luc, I remember your post. I think the other person who had this experience with 'Idol' was annew.
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We got a Gold Medal to day on the KAVB flower show with this collection
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We got a Gold Medal to day on the KAVB flower show with this collection
Congratulations! This was a good Monday, to start the working week ;)
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Thank you Maggie, yes it was a good start, you should so every week
Wim
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Gerry, sorry to hear that you had troubles with Idol, it is in mine garden now for 4 years with out problems till now.
We are the stock holder in the Netherlands and grow it sins 2000, you know, Idol is a selection from N.calcicola made by Michal Kammerlander and he gave it to me in 2000.
I have to say, that it is Fusarium feeling so it is not the easiest one to grow, we give it every year a warm water treatment but befor we controle the bulbs on Fusarium, othrwise you infect the hole stok.
So what can happen to your bulbs, maybe you feed it to much because that can give Fusarium, we know that some varieties can not manage to much feed in the end of the growing seison and special by heigh temp. (But Gerry, this is only a sugestion I do not know exactly what happen with your bulbs).
I should say tray again
Wim
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Gerry, sorry to hear that you had troubles with Idol, it is in mine garden now for 4 years with out problems till now.
We are the stock holder in the Netherlands and grow it sins 2000, you know, Idol is a selection from N.calcicola made by Michal Kammerlander and he gave it to me in 2000.
I have to say, that it is Fusarium feeling so it is not the easiest one to grow, we give it every year a warm water treatment but befor we controle the bulbs on Fusarium, othrwise you infect the hole stok.
So what can happen to your bulbs, maybe you feed it to much because that can give Fusarium, we know that some varieties can not manage to much feed in the end of the growing seison and special by heigh temp. (But Gerry, this is only a sugestion I do not know exactly what happen with your bulbs).
I should say tray again
Wim
Thanks for the comment Wim. I have grown N. calcicola, raised from seed, with no problems at all for several years. I am not the only forumist to have found that 'Idol' does not persist & I think we are all competent growers - in fact, if I remember correctly, one of us has tried twice**. Since I do not wish to waste any more money I will not be trying again & I would advise any forumists reading this to think twice before buying this cultivar despite the relatively low cost.
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** See:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4626.msg80519#msg80519
especially reply 155.
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I had mine in the garden on a raised bed... for one year... actually, it didn't even flower for me it's first year and the following year it was gone... :-\ :'(
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Gerry, sorry to hear that you had troubles with Idol, it is in mine garden now for 4 years with out problems till now.
We are the stock holder in the Netherlands and grow it sins 2000, you know, Idol is a selection from N.calcicola made by Michal Kammerlander and he gave it to me in 2000.
I have to say, that it is Fusarium feeling so it is not the easiest one to grow, we give it every year a warm water treatment but befor we controle the bulbs on Fusarium, othrwise you infect the hole stok.
So what can happen to your bulbs, maybe you feed it to much because that can give Fusarium, we know that some varieties can not manage to much feed in the end of the growing seison and special by heigh temp. (But Gerry, this is only a sugestion I do not know exactly what happen with your bulbs).
I should say tray again
Wim
Thanks for the comment Wim. I have grown N. calcicola, raised from seed, with no problems at all for several years. I am not the only forumist to have found that 'Idol' does not persist & I think we are all competent growers - in fact, if I remember correctly, one of us has tried twice**. Since I do not wish to waste any more money I will not be trying again & I would advise any forumists reading this to think twice before buying this cultivar despite the relatively low cost.
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** See:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4626.msg80519#msg80519
especially reply 155.
Dare I again mention the word Trichoderma? See this relevant thread
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6697
Much discussion there of the benefits of mycorrhizal fungi and mycoparasitic fungi.
(Edit by Maggi to sort link )
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Dear Gerry and Luc,
I am sorry to hear that you are disaponted about Idol and I do not doubt on your growing abilities,therefor I like to offer you new bulbs because I am sure it is a good Narcis.
I hope will exsept my offer
Wim
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Dear Gerry and Luc,
I am sorry to hear that you are disaponted about Idol and I do not doubt on your growing abilities,therefor I like to offer you new bulbs because I am sure it is a good Narcis.
I hope will exsept my offer
Wim
Many thanks Wim, I have sent you an email.
Gerry
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Here our collecty Iris;
1 Sheila Ann Germaney
2 Katharine Hodgkin
3 White Caucasus
4 Halkis
5 Lady Beatrix Stanley
6 Spot on
7 histrio
8 Palm Spring
9 No 87-BB-1
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Hello Wim,
are Spot On and 87-BB-1 new releases from Alun McMurtries breeding? I have seedlings similar to 87-BB-1 but I do not recognise "Spot On" which looks very attractive.
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Hello Peter, Yes Spot on (87-DQ-1) and 87-BB-1 are hybrid of Alan, do not ask me who are the parents I do not know but when you are intrested , he will be here Saturday 6 March and stay till the 10 of March, so when you want I can ask him to tell you the details.
You know, we are testing his hybrids for a couple of years and when we think it is not good enough we send back to him , the good one build up the stocks and try to bring them on the market
Wim
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Here some more;
1 Crocus minimus Bavella
2 Januari Gold
3 April View
4 Chry. Ard Schenk
5 Colchicum tryphilum
6 Tulipa humilus Lilliput
7 Ranunculus kochii
8 Corydalis solida Incisa
9 solida GP Baker
10 solida Beth Evans
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The last photo's for the show
1 Anemone blanda Blue Shade
2 ,, ,, ,, Radar
3 Narcis colcicola Bill Dijk
4 Muscari Baby's Breath
5 ,, ,, Gull Delight
6 ,, ,, Venus
7 ,, ,, Peppermint
8 Fritillaria carica
9 ,, ,, Golden Flag
10 Pleione formosana
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I saw the photo's did not come trough, so here again
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Thanks, Wim! 8)
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Wim,
wonderful to see these collection. It is like a "spring show" in the PC, following by the real spring show in the own garden.
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Wow, Thankyou for a fantastic display. Those Iris and Muscari are stunning, I shall definately try to grow bulbs in my greenhouse.
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Here the results of the flower show, it is all in old timer stile.
1 Our display, we had 4 awards; 1 a first price of our diplay with 9.60 punts
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I try again , we had 4 awards;
1 a first price with 9.60 punts for our display
2 The price of the best diplay miscellaneous bulbs
3 The best small Narcis with N. Julia Jane
4 the best middle miscellaneous bulb with Arum creticum
1 Our display
and the rest photo's of the show
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I like to show 4 prommesing hybrids of Alan McMurtrie.
1 number 98-NP-4
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I will try again with show 4 hybrids of Alan McMurtry
1 No 98-NP-4
2 No 01-IV-1
3 No 98-YS-1
4 No 02-ID-1
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Wim,
they look fantastic. I see only numbers. Is it right that you test them for Alan?
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I like all four. When will they be on sale Wim?
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David,
I don't want to ask so directly ;D
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Onion and David,
Yes we test them for Alan and we think this 4 numbers are something for the market but it takes a other 5 years before we are on market with them.
Wim
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So the season 2016 has start. ;D
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I might be well past my "sell by date" by then ;D
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Yes without any problems in the field it can be 2016 but you never know.
Sorry David that it takes so long.
Wim
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Wim,
those four retics look wonderful, thanks for sharing and I hope to be able to buy them in 2016 ;)
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Here 4 more intresting Irissus
1 No 97-EQ-1 from Alan McMurtie
2 aintiabensis
3 Mutation of Katharine Hodgkin
4 Mutation of Sheila Ann Germaney
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We got yesterday a gold medal for this collection
1 the collection
2 Narcissus minor Douglasbank
3 ,, ,, Jeannine cantrabricus x triandrus
4 ,, ,, cordubensis
5 Fritillaria armena
6 ,, ,, selection of stenanthera
7 ,, ,, minuta
8 ,, ,, uva-vulpis Kew form
9 ,, ,, pinardii Ole Sonderhouse
10 ,, ,, pudica Fragrance