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General Subjects => General Forum => Topic started by: Maggi Young on January 20, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
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It had to happen ,I suppose though for the life of me I cannot think why :-\
........ it seems that quite a few forumists are already Tweeting and making Facebook pages....... so if those of you who favour such things want to let Forum readers know about your activities in such fields then you may post here......
Wim de Goede tells me,
"Dear Maggi,
Maybe some pleople would find it interesting to follow us on twitter http://www.twitter.com/bulbsandbollen
We also are curious who we could find on twitter.
With kind regards,
Wim"
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My instincts say social networking systems are dangerous.
There is too complex information about a person
in one place.
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i made a facebook page for Galanthus ;D http://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?sk=group_160399837333841&ap=1
It only has 12 members :'( most of which are friends, 2 of them are dogs (puli ,french bulldog, i think they were just feeling sorry for me )
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I am on Facebook and have no problems with it perhaps because I use it for only one thing.
This is it to look at our proxy grandchildren. My daughters best friend has two babies and my daughter is like a second mother to them and so naturally Mrs W. has wanted to look at the pictures of them on Facebook.
At the time she was not using the pc and so I joined. She now whizzes around on her own laptop.
This has resulted in a number of people asking to be my friend not something that happens often to me!
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I use Facebook to keep in contact with friend, some in the USA, share family/holiday photographs and the likes. It does lead to requests to "be friends" but I ward off such advances by telling these people that really I am a very nasty person and they wouldn't want to know me and that I really don't have time in my life to follow what they are doing in theirs.
So, my use of it is quite limited but it does that which I want well.
Paddy
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I twitter as @botanicalgarden. The information shared there is remarkably like that on this forum. Plants, photography, food, drink, music, etc. Like this forum, you share what you want and nothing more. It's actually fascinating to see what happens. I've connected with many people who wouldn't have returned a phone call. It's a tremendous source of links to other valuable information that I would not have otherwise found. (and yes, full disclosure, my daughter works for the company...).
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I'm on Facebook, as I've mentioned elsewhere on the forum. It's basically just another communication tool like email or the phone, apart from the obvious privacy issues. It can be very useful, as others have said. It's all a question of how you use it. I've just finished a cartoon book about it, The Facebook Addict's Survival Guide which, given that there are 27 million Facebook users in the UK and 500 million worldwide, I'm hoping might sell a copy or two :)
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It is amazing the sheer number of folks using these sites. I think I better make a public apology here to those people who have sent me repeated invitations to become friends with them on Facbook.... I'm happy to stick with communicating via email and the Forum, thanks, so I won't be taking up any of the offers.
I'll be looking out for your book though, Martin.... and I wish you the best of luck in selling to a decent percentage of the twittering faces. ;)
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Ta-da!
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Obviously, Martin, this is all based on personal experience.
Paddy
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Obviously, Martin, this is all based on personal experience.
Paddy
Of course. Actually, the book is written and illustrated with me and my wife as the typical Facebook 'addicts', for the purposes of the humour. It makes it that bit more personal and funnier. And the final version of the cover (this is a preliminary cover for Amazon) does actually have an arrow to the couple in the bed, with text saying "The author and his wife, both incurable Facebook addicts." Which is a bit of an exaggeration but, again, for the humour. I have no problem with making fun of myself. My wife says I have no embarrassment gene.
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Ah, my sympathies are with the long-suffering Mrs. Baxendale.
Paddy
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Ah, my sympathies are with the long-suffering Mrs. Baxendale.
Paddy
Indeed. ;D
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This has resulted in a number of people asking to be my friend not something that happens often to me!
;D ;D ;D
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Emma, I am already going! :)
I am a member of one russian social net, all my images you can see here are from my page.
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Like others, I find Facebook useful to an extent-- I have reconnected with a number of friends in/from various places I have lived over the years, which is fun-- most I never would have found (or got around to finding!) otherwise..
Interestingly, after my last residence in Toronto, where I had to be phone accessible and answering the phone (though still to a limited extent on cell in public!) for clients, here, I am unreachable by phone, and only turn it on to make appointments with the mechanic etc!
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Interestingly, after my last residence in Toronto, where I had to be phone accessible and answering the phone (though still to a limited extent on cell in public!) for clients, here, I am unreachable by phone, and only turn it on to make appointments with the mechanic etc!
Oh, so that's why there are so many doves on your roof..... they're carrier pigeons! ;D
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I was looking up Facebook statistics for overseas marketing purposes for the book, and interestingly some of the highest Facebook user rates as a percentage of the population were in Canada and Australia, both huge countries with vast distances between population centres, so obviously very useful in such situations for helping people keep in touch with relatives etc.
This site gives an interesting insight into the growth of Facebook users in different countries:
http://www.socialbakers.com/facebook-statistics/
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The figures for the Vatican (which is of course a state) are interesting - 840 Facebook users shut down their Facebook accounts in the last two weeks, leaving just 20 users in the Vatican. Did someone issue some kind of edict? And who are the 20 still on Facebook, and why? ;D
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It sounds like a conspiracy, Martin. Maybe you should write a book...
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It sounds like a conspiracy, Martin. Maybe you should write a book...
;D
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The figures for the Vatican (which is of course a state) are interesting - 840 Facebook users shut down their Facebook accounts in the last two weeks, leaving just 20 users in the Vatican. Did someone issue some kind of edict? And who are the 20 still on Facebook, and why? ;D
Sounds like an edict indeed! The 20 remaining are probably there to keep an eye on developments and report back...
Maggi-- far more likely crows than doves ;D I just don't have any reason to talk to anyone on the phone anymore..lol
My only communication is here or email lists etc--where of course I talk far too much... shutting up now... :-X
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The figures for the Vatican (which is of course a state) are interesting - 840 Facebook users shut down their Facebook accounts in the last two weeks, leaving just 20 users in the Vatican. Did someone issue some kind of edict? And who are the 20 still on Facebook, and why? ;D
;D Martin...maybe : "par ordre de mufti" ;)
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The figures for the Vatican (which is of course a state) are interesting - 840 Facebook users shut down their Facebook accounts in the last two weeks, leaving just 20 users in the Vatican. Did someone issue some kind of edict? And who are the 20 still on Facebook, and why? ;D
;D Martin...maybe : "par ordre de mufti" ;)
;D
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I suppose somehow it was inevitable that I would have a comment. I think you are right Maggi. Why on earth anyone would want to use Twitter or Facebook escapes me. Talk about washing your dirty linen in public........................................... No wonder young people these days cannot express themselves verbally or even write !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello,
Let me introduce myself; I am Linda, the daughter-in-law of Wim de Goede. I manage our Twitter account.
In this way we want to show people using Twitter a look behind the scenes in our nursery. Only for business use.
Also we want to inform and help people about our Miscellaneous Bulbs.
With kind regards, Linda
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Twitter - has the word Twit in it - need I say more ;D
However Twitter amuses Jacinta through the offices of Mr Fry who coincidentally is on the board at Norwich City FC and thereby Jacinta can keep me ahead of the news from our local team!
Facebook allows me to keep in touch with friends about Jacinta's recent operation without the intrusion of a ringtone.
Everything in moderation ..... ::) (No comments please!)
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Hello,
Let me introduce myself; I am Linda, the daughter-in-law of Wim de Goede. I manage our Twitter account.
In this way we want to show people using Twitter a look behind the scenes in our nursery. Only for business use.
Also we want to inform and help people about our Miscellaneous Bulbs.
With kind regards, Linda
Hello Linda,
Thank you for introducingyourself. I know that many businesses are using Twitter to make contact with customers and I believe it must be a useful tool for you.
It is a system which has lovers and haters, it seems! ;)
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I suppose somehow it was inevitable that I would have a comment. I think you are right Maggi. Why on earth anyone would want to use Twitter or Facebook escapes me. Talk about washing your dirty linen in public........................................... No wonder young people these days cannot express themselves verbally or even write !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Colin, there are other sides and uses to Facebook than washing dirty linen in public. I use it as a convenient way to keep in contact with friends in Maryland and California, with family when abroad, and find it a very easy way to share photographs etc. Also it is a very convenient way to keep up to date with what is on offer at our local and national theatres, keep up to date with local news etc.
Paddy
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I agree, wholeheartedly, with Colin.
I'm not a technophobe ( I use very complex scientific instruments at work and just volunteered to implement & manage a new lab database), but these things I use at work are tools. The trend for people (especially the younger ones) claiming to be "bored" unless they have technological input from a gadget in their hand or wired into their ears annoys and depresses me.
But then - as an introvert by nature the very phrase 'social networking' puts my back up right from the start ;D
If folks want to use these things then that is fine and I would fight for their right to do so, where I get worried is when employers start using these networks for recruitment or vetting potential employees. This discriminates against those of us who can actually still think for ourselves without computer help or input from our 'networks' ... But then maybe employers don't want folks who can think - sheep are easier to manage.
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Colin, there are other sides and uses to Facebook than washing dirty linen in public. I use it as a convenient way to keep in contact with friends in Maryland and California, with family when abroad, and find it a very easy way to share photographs etc. Also it is a very convenient way to keep up to date with what is on offer at our local and national theatres, keep up to date with local news etc.
All the activities are possible without facebooks, twitters etc. The convenience is the danger I spoke about.
You certainly don't use different identities for different activities.
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If folks want to use these things then that is fine and I would fight for their right to do so, where I get worried is when employers start using these networks for recruitment or vetting potential employees. This discriminates against those of us who can actually still think for ourselves without computer help or input from our 'networks' ... But then maybe employers don't want folks who can think - sheep are easier to manage.
Working as I do for a large company my role as shepherd is not a happy one at present. Employers really should be looking for people who can think - at least they usually have something constructive to say - sheep just bleat a lot and are not (in my experience) easy to manage :( Unfortunately I have little control over hiring and firing - my job is more flock control ::)
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And the other thing that annoys me is the assumption that everyone who matters is also on twitter or facebook. It's the same with the internet in general. Traders and banks are doing their best to make sure the ONLY option you have is to do things online, I know plenty of folk who don't have a computer, or want one, or see the point of the expense and hassle, who are being effectively discriminated against as the more traditional ways of doing things are removed (witness post office closures and the proposed withdrawal of personal cheques).
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Just got a note to tell me my sister has joined facebook,that is an enormously large increase in their membership
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I emailed my various overseas publishers today with a scan of the cover of my new book The Facebook Addict's Survival Guide and telling them I'll be mailing sample copies to them tomorrow, and got an email back from my Hungarian publisher saying they want to publish on the basis of the cover and the idea alone before even seeing the whole book, and my Finnish publisher also came straight back very enthusiastic about it. Both of them are on Facebook, which may have helped. Fingers crossed that it carries on like this. :)
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sister enormously large
Tony, you can't say things like that anymore. Sky employees have been sacked for less. ;D
Meanwhile Murdoch gets away with any mahem he cares to get involved in.
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Congratulations, Martin!! Well done.
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Congratulations, Martin!! Well done.
Thanks Paul. I know it's me blowing my own trumpet a bit, but that's the first time in 20 years of publishing my cartoon books that I've had an overseas publisher agree to license a book purely on the basis of the cover, without seeing the actual book or what's in it. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks it might sell a copy or three.
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More power to your elbow, Martin! :D
The horticultural trade is getting behind the Twitter message, it seems: http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulletin/dailybulletin/article/1050195/?DCMP=EMC-CONHorticultureWeekBulletin
What is that cynical voice inside me that says they won't be so enthusiastic when their customers can complain via Twitter for others to see?
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Congratulations, Martin!! Well done.
Thanks Paul. I know it's me blowing my own trumpet a bit, but that's the first time in 20 years of publishing my cartoon books that I've had an overseas publisher agree to license a book purely on the basis of the cover, without seeing the actual book or what's in it. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks it might sell a copy or three.
Congratulations! That must be a nice feeling :)
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The horticultural trade is getting behind the Twitter message, it seems: http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulletin/dailybulletin/article/1050195/?DCMP=EMC-CONHorticultureWeekBulletin
What is that cynical voice inside me that says they won't be so enthusiastic when their customers can complain via Twitter for others to see?
Easy access to customers? Great! Be careful what you ask for ;D
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Extract from a telephone conversation with my brother last night.
Him: Are you on the Facebook thingy.
Me: No it's not really my bag.
Him: I joined because the kids told me to as it was a good way for them to send me photos of the grandchildren. Thing was I'd only been joined a couple of days and I'd had two pictures of nubile naked young ladies wanting to be my friend.
Me: Hope you saved 'em.
Him: June (his wife) made me get rid of them. I wanted to send them both a photo of me in the buff but June wouldn't take one- she said it might frighten the horses- and I couldn't sort out the camera to take one of myself.
Such are the wonders of technology ;D
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David,
you'll need to send them a copy of Martin's book when it comes out ;D
Maybe he can use that story in the second edition? ;D ;D
cheers
fermi