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Title: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 08:54:11 AM
This is a follow-up from a posting on Trees in Parks and Gardens:

A few years back, Mary and I visited the garden of the Natiional Collection Holder of Hamamelis, Pat Edwards, near Birmingham and not all that far from Ashwood Nurseries.

Here are a few shots.
Paddy

Hamamelis mollis 'Pallida'
Hamamelis mollis 'Sunburst'
Hamamelis mollis 'Well's Form'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Aphrodite'
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 08:57:05 AM
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Brigid'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Carmine Red'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Diane'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Hillier's Cross'
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 09:00:25 AM
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Hintingbury'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Jelena'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Jermyn's Gold'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Luna'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Nina'
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Rubin'

Hamamelis x intermedia 'Strawberries and Cream'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Vesna'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Firecracker'
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 18, 2011, 09:27:55 AM
Swallowhayes is a good collection, it is worth pointing out that her open day is coming up:

Witch Hazels in winter bloom
Enjoy the delicate flowers and fragrance of Hamamelis cheering up the dark days of winter with warming soup provided by the Shropshire Committee, as well as cakes, tea and coffee. Mrs Edwards' Winter Garden is open till dusk.
Event Location: Swallow Hayes, Rectory Road, Albrighton, Wolverhampton West Midlands WV7 3EP

Event Start Date: 23/01/2011 10:00

Contact details on Plant Heritage website.

As Paddy has shown it is a good visit, one of three National Collections, the others being in Sittingbourne and the Sir Harold Hillier Gardens.  When we went it was a bit breezy, so we were encouraged to go around and cup the blooms to our noses.  Great hilarity, but scents from sweet to spicy.  Unfortunately you end up with a huge list of what you might like to buy in the future ;D
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Hoy on January 18, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
I would plant many witch hazels if they hadn't been that expensive!
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 10:59:24 AM
Brian,

Like you, we found our visit a very funny one; certainly an entertaining experience and worth it.

Hoy, unfortunately they are expensive plants. We bought small plants which were not so highly priced and waited for them to grow. They are very pretty at this time of year.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: mark smyth on January 18, 2011, 11:45:07 AM
I never knew there were so many. I cant remember the names but in garden centres over here all I see are the yellow, orange and red flowered plants
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: gervandenbeuken on January 18, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
Paddy, I'm looking for a very compact and slowly growing form of Hamamelis for my alpine garden.
Do you have any suggestion and if so where to order?

Ger
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 02:10:13 PM
Ger,

I'm afraid I don't know of any Hamamelis which remain small enough to use on  an alpine garden. All, to the best of my knowledge, are medium-sized shrubs/small trees with a spreading habit.

H. mollis 'Pallida' in our garden is about 2.5m X 2.5m.

However, one planted in an alpine garden would take up little ground space and there would be plenty of room to plant underneath.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: angie on January 18, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
Thanks for showing us these lovely Hamamelis. I to never new there were so many varieties.
Its always a delight when they start to show there splendid colour at the start of the year.

Angie :)
 
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: David Nicholson on January 18, 2011, 07:14:00 PM
Lovely set of images Paddy, thanks. The last time I looked at a Hamamelis, albeit in a three litre pot, it was £35 at a local garden centre
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Onion on January 18, 2011, 08:10:06 PM
Paddy, I'm looking for a very compact and slowly growing form of Hamamelis for my alpine garden.
Do you have any suggestion and if so where to order?

Ger

Ger,

you must look for Hamamelis vernalis. The smallest I know is H. vernalis 'Quasimodo'. I knew a plant 20 years old with a high of 4 feet/ 1, 20 Meter. H. vernalis don't have large "flowers", but a smell  :P :P :P. I can send you a PM of a nursery here in the area with a large collection of Hamamelis, where I get 'Quasimodo' after 2 years of waiting.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Palustris on January 18, 2011, 09:03:57 PM
Sadly my Dialup connection will not allow me to see right to the end of this thread, so I have no idea if anyone has asked this. What sort of entrance fee was charged? There is no mention of it on the Plant Heritage site. It would seem a shame to drive all the way there and then find one was asked for an exorbitant sum to get in. Even last years figure would help. TIA.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Diane Clement on January 18, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Sadly my Dialup connection will not allow me to see right to the end of this thread, so I have no idea if anyone has asked this. What sort of entrance fee was charged? There is no mention of it on the Plant Heritage site. It would seem a shame to drive all the way there and then find one was asked for an exorbitant sum to get in. Even last years figure would help. TIA.

The NGS site states £3.50
http://www.ngs.org.uk/gardens/gardenfinder/garden.aspx?id=6652 (http://www.ngs.org.uk/gardens/gardenfinder/garden.aspx?id=6652)
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 18, 2011, 10:40:23 PM
Uli,

Many thanks for the information re H. vernalis 'Quasimodo'. It isn't one I seen or heard of but it sounds delightful. You might post a photograph if possible as it would be a very different and interesting one to see.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 19, 2011, 02:34:19 AM
Paddy,
thanks for these pics of these wonderful shrubs.
They are pretty expensive here as well as they are all grafted. We certainly don't have a great variety in Australia and the two we had planted did not last long, presumeably due to the hot and dry conditions (well, not this summer, so far!) but I'm so tempted to try again after seeing these pics and remembering the scent. If that fails I'll just have to visit the appropriate gardens each winter!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Palustris on January 19, 2011, 10:41:10 AM



The NGS site states £3.50
http://www.ngs.org.uk/gardens/gardenfinder/garden.aspx?id=6652 (http://www.ngs.org.uk/gardens/gardenfinder/garden.aspx?id=6652)


Thanks Diane, going blind in my old age, could not find this info yesterday. Odd that we have been to David Austin Roses in Albrighton and Ashwoods and Webbs without seeing the place.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Diane Clement on January 19, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
Thanks Diane, going blind in my old age, could not find this info yesterday. Odd that we have been to David Austin Roses in Albrighton and Ashwoods and Webbs without seeing the place.

"Webbs" actually backs onto Swallow Hayes.  Webbs used to be called "Roses and Shrubs" and was owned by the Edwards of Swallow Hayes.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: shelagh on January 19, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Thanks for wuch a wonderful selection/collection of pics Paddy.  Our H. mollis 'Pallida' came into flower at the weekend, a little late this year as it is often flowering on New Years Day.  I always look forward to as it heralds the Spring.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 19, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
Glad you enjoyed them, Fermi and Shelagh.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 19, 2011, 04:27:15 PM
I was not aware of H. vernalis 'Quasimoto', so I searched and see that it available in the USA as well.  Good to know that there is a dwarf or small growing witchhazel out there.  Here are some links:

H. vernalis 'Quasimoto' (shrub view, not flowering)
http://www.rarefindnursery.com/index.cfm/action/productdetail/product_id/5338.htm

more Hamamelis at RareFind Nursery, not the newly found species H. ovalis from Mississippi.
http://www.rarefindnursery.com/index.cfm/action/displayProducts/level/3|170.htm

H. vernalis 'Quasimoto' - flowering:
http://www.ncsu.edu/jcraulstonarboretum/horticulture/current_plantings/current_plantings_details.php?serialnumber=0066661

http://www.ncsu.edu/jcraulstonarboretum/photography/photograph_collection/photograph_collection_results.php?image=&date=&photographer=&personinshotnames=&country=&usstate=&city=&location=&garden=&building=&event=&keywords=&othernotes=&lecturetext=&allplantnames=&allcommonnames=&allfamily=&allplantnameserialnumbers=117419 (http://www.ncsu.edu/jcraulstonarboretum/photography/photograph_collection/photograph_collection_results.php?image=&date=&photographer=&personinshotnames=&country=&usstate=&city=&location=&garden=&building=&event=&keywords=&othernotes=&lecturetext=&allplantnames=&allcommonnames=&allfamily=&allplantnameserialnumbers=117419)
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 19, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
"Webbs" actually backs onto Swallow Hayes. 

Oh dear, another reason to visit 8)
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Olga Bondareva on January 19, 2011, 06:20:58 PM
Paddy, thank you for showing rich range of Hamamelis! I love them very much for flowering when snow is still covering the ground. They are really the first flowers of spring. Only H. vernalis and H. virginianus are hardy here.

H. vernalis 'Quasimoto'

I am looking for it for many years.  :-\

Species H. vernalis is high and looks like hazel.

(http://cs1254.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/14408998/x_84c719b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Onion on January 19, 2011, 07:18:07 PM
@ Paddy,

Marc Mc was faster. A very good picture of a flowering H. vernalis 'Quasimodo'.

@Olga,

nice to see a picture of H. vernalis. Never see it before. I like the "little" flowers and the smell.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 19, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
'Quasimodo' looks like a very nice shrub, a tidy habit for a small area in the garden. Good colour also, that marmalade shade is a nice change from the more common yellows.

Olga,
Nice H. vernalis. Good garden plant. They're a good shrub for this early time of year when little more is available.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Hoy on January 19, 2011, 08:16:35 PM
Olga, nice picture and plant.
I haven't come across H vernalis for sale here yet but it is a shrub I am looking for.
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: gervandenbeuken on January 20, 2011, 03:35:09 PM
Paddy, I'm looking for a very compact and slowly growing form of Hamamelis for my alpine garden.
Do you have any suggestion and if so where to order?

Ger

Ger,

you must look for Hamamelis vernalis. The smallest I know is H. vernalis 'Quasimodo'. I knew a plant 20 years old with a high of 4 feet/ 1, 20 Meter. H. vernalis don't have large "flowers", but a smell  :P :P :P. I can send you a PM of a nursery here in the area with a large collection of Hamamelis, where I get 'Quasimodo' after 2 years of waiting.

Many thanks for your information. In the mean time I found a nursery here in the Netherlands in Boskoop. Good plants for sale from Hamamelis vernalis 'Quasimodo'  for Euro  22.50
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: Maggi Young on January 20, 2011, 04:35:45 PM

Many thanks for your information. In the mean time I found a nursery here in the Netherlands in Boskoop. Good plants for sale from Hamamelis vernalis 'Quasimodo'  for Euro  22.50

 Oh, sounds good..... do they make mail order?
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 20, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
Some for reason when discussing H. vernalis 'Quasimoto', I conjure up an image of a small decumbent shrub that develops a large woody burl off to one side ;D
Title: Re: Hamamelis - National Collection
Post by: David Nicholson on January 20, 2011, 07:17:46 PM
Some for reason when discussing H. vernalis 'Quasimoto', I conjure up an image of a small decumbent shrub that develops a large woody burl off to one side ;D

With bell shaped flowers?  ;D
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