Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: bobbydog on January 08, 2011, 02:28:51 PM
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HI THERE I HAVE A LARGE QUANTITY OF SANDERSII
if interested email me
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Hello Bobbydog. Yes, I've seen your ebay auctions for the yellows, you must indeed have a lot of them!
Edit by maggi: Sadly, from reports from many sources, it seems that these snowdrops are not yellows.
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hi there
have managed to sell a substantial amount and all buyers have been more than happy with their purchases,
i will be lifting another large clump this spring after flowering so that they are in fine fettle for next year
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hi again,
after reading through many and varied postings on this website, i have decided it is much better to have friends than cash, so i am offering my sandersii for swappings,
please let me know what you have to swap with and i WILL hopefully be able to help a few of you
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Sandersii, or course, is not a species, it is the name given to the group of Galanthus nivalis with yellow (instead of green) markings on the inner petals and a yellow ovary. Many of these originate from Northumberland, including the original named after a Mr Sanders of Cambridge.
If I understand the forum rules correctly, one can post information about plants one is seeking or plants one is willing to swap but one should not post to advertise plants for sale; so I am very pleased to see that Bobbydog has clarified his willingness to swap. Maybe we can moderate these sandersii-related comments into a thread of their own?
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What sort of things were you looking to swap bobby?is it only drops or are you interested in other stuff,i have your yellow drop and its just pushing up at the moment(got off the bay).Can i ask did you look through your yellows for variation?
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really wanting more of the drops of approx value in 121 swaps
i am very new, and only have all of these sandersii
and i want to increase in the less common type as common i can buy anywhere
interested in snowdrops and cyclamen
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daveyp
forgot to mention
no i did not look through any of the drops for variations or different types growing, then i was a total total novice, i just thought that all drops were the same until i asked advice on these sandersii from a respected personal friend in kew,
i knew of about 20 different types, not the 500+ so i am now on a steep learning curve, have just bought the book on snowdrops good book from amazon as it is cheaper than the one on ebay.
after auction end tonight i will be keeping the rest until the flowering is over, to try and spot variations
then hopefully sell some more on ebay but in the green
then i will be lifting another large clump of them for sorting for next year
busy busy
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Hi Folks, just wondering if any of you have bought or swapped the Galanthus Sandersii? I'm always wondering if I should try to like the yellows better. :-\
Sadly it seems from many sources that none of these drops were yellows.
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Maggi,
In june when the drops are dormant I swap several galanthus for sandersii.hope they will flower for me as I like the yellows but they do not all like my soil.
I think this is a good offer and an opportunity to try and like them.
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I bought three - yellows are a particular favourite of mine.
Was very encouraged when the quite small bulbs all developed buds. Now a little concerned that the buds are still green - will they develop into yellow as they open?
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they certainly look green now.
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I bought three - yellows are a particular favourite of mine.
Was very encouraged when the quite small bulbs all developed buds. Now a little concerned that the buds are still green - will they develop into yellow as they open?
I'm afraid those are not going to be yellows, Arthur. Who did you buy them from? On ebay? Even when yellows go greenish they don't look as green as that. I'm sure they're going to be ordinary nivalis. There's no sign of even a hint of yellow in the ovaries or the leaves.
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I bought three - yellows are a particular favourite of mine.
What were they supposed to be Arthur?
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Martin
Do you think I have been conned? A significant number of people bought these on EBay and there was excellent feedback.
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I bought three - yellows are a particular favourite of mine.
What were they supposed to be Arthur?
Galanthus sandersii
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Hmmm. Not Sandersii. Who did you buy them from? Bobbydog?
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That was not the name on EBay. Do we know where BobbyDog lives?
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Your emails from Ebay will include an address
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The one i had left flowered out green as well ???
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Your emails from Ebay will include an address
Mark
I did not see one. I am not sure what knowing the address of the seller on EBay would do.
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I think i have his address because he wanted to swap bulbs with me so he gave me his address,i post a pic of mine tommorow,i'm so glad about this because i thought i had labeled the wrong pot and thought my yellow had died but now realise it was right and I'm not nuts whew
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Diane i have pmd you some details.
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That was not the name on EBay. Do we know where BobbyDog lives?
It could be the same person Art:
BobyDog on here has the email "laulaufluffy@B....."
and the ebay seller (who has sold 55 lots of Sandersii at £10 each) is called "laulau78pink"
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Folks, when Bobby Dog started this thread he said he had lots of sandersii and when I said I'd seen his 'drops on ebay he agreed with me that he'd sold lots...... we'll see what he says but I understood it to be the same person!
Off now to Dunblane..... probably see some 'drops there. ;)
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please people, as per some people on ebay, i have requested that if things are wrong then i am more than happy to refund, it is my problem, i have faulted and must hold my hands up
as to why this happened i cannot say as this is new to me
last year the clumps were all yellow,
and now a few are green, well more than a few
i can and will refund, i have kept all the payment notification from paypal please bear with me
pm me your details
there has not been a con , but a genuine mistake
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When will you lot ever learn, the remedy is don't buy from Ebay. The trouble is many of you just can't resist what looks like a bargain :(
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Bobbydog will you refund everyone who bought from you? and those on Ebay?
David, lots of Ebay sellers are good honest people.
I see there are many bids for all those "unknown" snowdrops.
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:-[
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David, lots of Ebay sellers are good honest people.
I agree.
I think this was a mistake when entering a new selling area - David don't tell me you have never made a mistake :)
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David, lots of Ebay sellers are good honest people.
I agree. I think this was a mistake when entering a new selling area - David don't tell me you have never made a mistake :)
Mark is right, there are lots of good Ebay sellers (indeed, several are members of this forum) and it can be an excellent way to buy.
I also agree with Arthur that this seemed to be a genuine mistake which Bobbydog admitted and is now in the process of putting right.
Thanks to all for the support here on the forum and behind the scenes of the forum ;D I think we will have a good outcome and I hope Bobbydog will now stay on board and share in the wide knowledge and support of this brilliant forum.
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I have been reading this thread and hoping the outcome would be positive. I can understand how Bobbydog has made a genuine mistake being a beginner. Just last year I found some yellow nivalis and was so excited.....this year they are green. I am fairly new to snowdrops too Bobbydog and I am wondering if your huge clumps were stressed and turned yellow. The experts on here would know the reasons why.
There are A LOT of con artists on ebay and you have to be very careful and stick with the good ones. I sell on ebay in the summer (my imported rare daylilies) and I am very very fussy what I sell to the point of driving myself insane. I never sell what I would not be happy to receive myself. Just wish more sellers were like that as it gives ebay a bad name. I would be lost without ebay and have many great buys on there - clothes, printers, perfume, pots, plants etc etc etc.
A happy ending :)
Jennie
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David, lots of Ebay sellers are good honest people.
I agree.
I think this was a mistake when entering a new selling area - David don't tell me you have never made a mistake :)
Make 'em all the time Art, if fact I've got it off to fine art, but never on Ebay.
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;D
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8) ;D 8)
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as to kentish lass's post, do nivalis turn yellow if stressed, and if they do what can be done to de-stress them so that one can find out if indeed they are yellow
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Snowdrops often become yellow if deprived of light just as they are about to emerge and flower; some time in December perhaps. There is a famous story of a snowdrop enthusiast who was very excited to find a clump of yellow snowdrops in a field growing through a cow-pat. But next year and ever after the snowdrops came up green and perfectly normal. Suddenly being buried under a cow-pat, and perhaps some of the chemicals therein, had caused the snowdrops to come up yellow. But it was a one-off, never to be repeated event, caused by unusual circumstances, not by an unusual snowdrop. You could probably cause the same effect if you buried some snowdrops under a pile of leaves in December and then uncovered them mid-February. I have also seen snowdrops looking bleached-yellow, probably through accidental exposure to powerful chemicals. And a virus infection can cause a yellow flower with variegated green and yellow leaves.
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Just a quick reply to David Nicholson's post about people not being able to resist a bargain. I've bought quite a few snowdrops on ebay this year but I don't think any of them have been bargains. However for someone who caught the bug in the last couple of years, I haven't been able to obtain some of the one's I bought anywhere else. I'm hoping when some of the more interesting drops increase that I may be able to do some swaps. For instance I think i will have a spare Diggory next year. But until I have something worth offering for swap it will have to be ebay for me. Bobbydog's sandersii have been the only problamatical one's up to now and I'm hoping for a refund from him. Some of the ebay sellers have even popped in the extra bulb or two, so not all are bad.
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alan b
these bulbs come from an open field in full daylight, unobstructed by any shadow or other growth, it is like a open parkland.
there are many other drops in the locality all showing different stges of growth,
can you also tell me the flowering time of sandersii
is it earlier or later than now
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The sandersii in my garden are in full flower at the moment. I wish the sun would shine for them.
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I've bought quite a few snowdrops on ebay this year but I don't think any of them have been bargains. However for someone who caught the bug in the last couple of years, I haven't been able to obtain some of the one's I bought anywhere else.
Excellent point.
I also buy and sell on Ebay, and from and to other Forumists. But buying bulbs labelled "unknown" or "grumpy" (not Joe's) or Grim Reaper or any of the other instant names dreamed up by quick buck chancers is a mugs game.
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I've bought quite a few snowdrops on ebay this year but I don't think any of them have been bargains. However for someone who caught the bug in the last couple of years, I haven't been able to obtain some of the one's I bought anywhere else.
Excellent point.
I also buy and sell on Ebay, and from and to other Forumists. But buying bulbs labelled "unknown" or "grumpy" (not Joe's) or Grim Reaper or any of the other instant names dreamed up by quick buck chancers is a mugs game.
Most probably, Steve.... but no-one here has suggested otherwise.... this is about G. Sandersii :-X
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Bobbydog, I take it that last year you found a whole patch of yellow snowdrops in a field and this year few, if any, are yellow again? I have found snowdrops that were completely white (with no green marks) and snowdrops that had two flowers on the same stalk but neither of them did the same thing next year. The point of my earlier story is to illustrate how unwise it is to assume that an unusual snowdrop will remain unusual until you have observed it for several years. My snowdrop with two flowers on the same stalk did the same thing six years later but was perfectly normal for the intervening five years. My pure white snowdrop is a bit whiter than normal about every second year. Since yellow colouration in a snowdrop is a reaction to stress, it's very likely your snowdrops were yellow as a one-off reaction to some stressful event that you never saw. You'll probably never know what it was.
The name Sandersii (or, strictly, Sandersii Group) is applied to all yellow forms of Galanthus nivalis that have no distinguishing features beyond their yellow colour (but which are yellow every year when settled). Ordinary Galanthus nivalis typically flower in February in England so the typical Sandersii will do likewise, but exactly when depends on the conditions and your particular form of "Sandersii".
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Bobbydog, I am hearing about other Forumists who have bought these not yellow drops from you.... will you be getting in touch with all of them?
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full refunds are in progress, and a few have been refunded, please open a case with ebay, that is the quickest way to gain refund.
when i get to my computer then i can initiate the refund through that option immediately.
unfortunately i am not at my computer all day every day.
diane, i still have not heard from paypal on the charity item, rest assured though i have re contacted them
PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES ON THIS MATTER
profuse apologies, i am a good person
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Bobbydog. i am sure everyone believes you are a good person. Mistakes happen. Nice to see you putting it right.
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Great to hear you are making contact Bobbydog and sorting things out.
these things happen.....I hope everyone will have their problem resolved to their satisfaction.
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It's obviously a genuine mistake bobbydog & at least you are sincere in trying to correct the matter.
Stick around & you'll learn a a great deal from this forum.
Mike
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i thank you all for all your kind words, i am learning all the time,
my new motto is
IF IT IS YELLOW, LEAVE IT ALONE, YELLOW IS TROUBLE
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i thank you all for all your kind words, i am learning all the time,
my new motto is
IF IT IS YELLOW, LEAVE IT ALONE, YELLOW IS TROUBLE
but it might be a yellow daffodil, bobby! ;D ;)
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even if i picked a yellow daffodil, with my expertise i am sure it will turn green LOL
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This is a group of yellow nivalis, they are yellow as soon as they come out of the ground.
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Dear all, just a quick picture of our G sandersii this year a bit later than normal but very good yellow, I am sure this with such cold weather, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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I am still awaiting resolution
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Arthur
Now why am I not surprised?
Steve
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steve
all people who have lodged refunds have had refunds
27 people in total so are you now surprised
art 600 cant think what is gone wrong
did you open case with ebay, if you do you get repaid within hours
so please email me with your worryings not air them here as i do not visit that often
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steve
all people who have lodged refunds have had refunds
27 people in total so are you now surprised
art 600 cant think what is gone wrong
did you open case with ebay, if you do you get repaid within hours
so please email me with your worryings not air them here as i do not visit that often
In cases where something was wrong the seller arranged a refund through PayPal without the need to contact EBay - EBay always direct the buyer to resolve directly with the seller.
I have, however, emailed EBay and await payment 'within hours'.
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as soon as ebay contact me art you will be paid
i see i hear nothing from steve
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I didn't bid.
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as soon as ebay contact me art you will be paid
i see i hear nothing from steve
As you well know, my complaint to EBay was outside the 45 day rule - I had to wait until I could see from the buds that they were not yellow but green. They said to resolve it directly with you - I returned the plants as you requested and when you said you would refund all my monies. Why are you delaying further? EBay do not make the refunds - you do via PayPal.
Please pay without further delay.
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steve
all people who have lodged refunds have had refunds
27 people in total so are you now surprised
art 600 cant think what is gone wrong
did you open case with ebay, if you do you get repaid within hours
so please email me with your worryings not air them here as i do not visit that often
Sorry bobbydog - here also any refund has arrived - got no answer after my last mail, so I think you visit the forum more often than your mailbox.
Here a picture of the 'yellow' snowdrop.
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Have just received a refund via PayPal after requesting payment.
Contacting EBay is ineffective.
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Arthur Nicholls
art600@btinternet.com
Note from merchant
This is the easy way to repay me.
you have stated several times on the SRGC Forum that you have repaid people who, like me, received Galanthus nivalis with green NOT yellow markings.
[]Time to live up to your promise or it will cost you more through Small claims Court now that comment is totally uncalled for, and i ALWAYS true to word, once i recieve notification i pay
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Have just received a refund via PayPal after requesting payment.
Thanks to Arthur's hint I also requested a payment and received it.
Generally there should be less trouble and bad vibrations if the seller returns the payment directly to the direction he had received the money, than to wait the buyer requests the money via paypal. ::)
Glad to have the money back. Thanks
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I am pleased that it most of you have now had your money returned and I hope that those with outstanding refunds will get their money back from bobbydog before long.
It seems clear that none of the "yellows" could be yellows and there is no reason to suppose that even any smaller bulbs will prove to be so.
Generally speaking I feel it is rather disappointing to have the general feeling of amity and shared love of plants usually evident in the Forum spoiled by the bickering and ill feeling that seems to be generated by any discussion where ebay is featured.
I am well aware that there are very decent ebay sellers and that there are SRGC members and forumists among that number, but it is the case that every year there are fallouts of one sort or another caused by ebay disputes or arguments of whatever kind.
While it can be useful for Forumists to make each other aware of some sales that are not valid etc this is not really the platform for protracted disputes.
In future it would be appreciated if such arguments were not brought to the pages of the forum. :-X
Maggi
Forum Moderator
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I just wanted to post this on the Scottish Rock forum as I got emails for a few snowdrop lovers to make me aware that some person in Germany is selling 'Green Tear' on ebay.
We just wanted to say that the only person selling the real plant on ebay is the seller : ramonhoi
The seller "botanicalsandmore2011" has not got the snowdrop 'Green Tear' as I contacted all the persons who have had a bulb from me in the last. None of these have swaped or sold this plant
I just thought you better all be warned, rather than sorry.
Gert Jan van der Kolk