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Title: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 05, 2011, 09:17:21 PM
My first crocus in flower for the new year. It is just a month earlier than when it last bloomed in 2009

Crocus graveolens from Silifke Turkey
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 05, 2011, 09:43:22 PM
An early beauty Tony !!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
Very nice Tony.

My first spring Crocus are also out. The same as last year it's chrysanthus Sunspot. They flowered in December 2009 so just a couple of weeks late
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 05, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
lots more moving along but none appear near to flowering yet. Will depend on how warm it stays.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 07, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
My first crocus in flower for the new year. It is just a month earlier than when it last bloomed in 2009
Crocus graveolens from Silifke Turkey

Brings the sunshine in the house Tony ! And we could use some sunshine ....
For me a rather unknown species,but I like the colour. Do you know wich part of Turkey ? Any chance this is a hardy Crocus ?   
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Hendrik Van Bogaert on January 07, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
Dear Croconuts,

Here in Belgium we had a lot of snow, but now is temperature rising. Still no crocuses in flower.
Yesterday got email version of Janis catalogue. This is real Crocus year for Janis - his book (not received yet) and now catalogue.
Last year it seemed that his  catalogue was unsurpassable, but this one is even better. Even if only Crocus x paulinae would be offered, it will be "vow". But here are plenty of others, not only crocuses.
You can ask him copy by e-mail janis.bulb@hawk.lv

Hendrik
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Hendrik, since yesterday in the Forum nearly  400 bulb lovers have already read about Janis' new catalogue !
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6461.0   .... there are a lot of bulb lovers around here!!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: udo on January 08, 2011, 01:10:36 PM
I wish a happy new year for all members in this forum :D
After long and cold weeks, the first flower this year:
Crocus aleppicus from Syria
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 08, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
I wish a happy new year for all members in this forum :D
After long and cold weeks, the first flower this year:
Crocus aleppicus from Syria
Dirk, very good form and photo. I'm afraid that my first entry will be only in April. Snow amount is so huge, that municipalities tractors yesterday failed to clean my road. Now I'm reaching by car my neighbor (2.5 km) and he brings me by snow-motocycle to nursery and in afternoon back to my car. Hope that next week will come more serious technique.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 08, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
Wonderful Crocus Dirk !
My first one for this year had to be brought inside to open, but it was worthwhile !

One that Janis will only see in his nursery in April...  ;D

Crocus biflorus isauricus from Akseki (Turkey)... from different angles :
(5 flowers from one bulb !)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 08, 2011, 05:27:17 PM
My first crocus in flower for the new year. It is just a month earlier than when it last bloomed in 2009
Crocus graveolens from Silifke Turkey

Brings the sunshine in the house Tony ! And we could use some sunshine ....
For me a rather unknown species,but I like the colour. Do you know wich part of Turkey ? Any chance this is a hardy Crocus ?   

Kris if you google Silifke you will see it is a couple of hundred kilometres east of Antalya and the crocus grows in the mountains behind. It is very hardy.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 08, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
 Crocus korolkowii, lucky number, waiting for the sunshine.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 09, 2011, 08:29:39 AM
Wonderful Crocus Dirk !
My first one for this year had to be brought inside to open, but it was worthwhile !

One that Janis will only see in his nursery in April...  ;D

Crocus biflorus isauricus from Akseki (Turkey)... from different angles :
(5 flowers from one bulb !)
Good specimen Luc. Pity that around Akseki only small percentage of isauricus has black connectives on anthers. The populations are variable there. In some places plants with black connectives dominate, in some there are 50/50 but in some black anthered plants are only very very few.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: WimB on January 09, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
In flower here now:

Crocus laevigatus
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: udo on January 09, 2011, 02:47:02 PM
Janis and Luc, many thanks.
Nice Cr.bifl.isauricus, here is bifl.artvinensis the first.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 10, 2011, 09:29:15 PM
Crocus laevigatus fontenayi.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Hristo on January 11, 2011, 01:55:42 PM
An early January melt has given Crocus michelsonii its chance to flower, bees have visited also!
Patches of Crocus laevigatus fontenayi continues to flower ( started in early December )
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 11, 2011, 02:21:29 PM
Bees??!! In January? what next?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Hristo on January 12, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
Maggi, if this keep up the answer is Butterflys!! The Red Admirals were active in December and the day moths were pollinating the
Crocus laevigatus fontenayi!!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 12, 2011, 10:19:39 AM
No! Really? Have you not had the frost and snow we've had?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Hristo on January 12, 2011, 10:59:04 AM
Yes, snow and frosts, min temps to -15c so far this year, the big difference here is if we have a warm spell it comes up from the med and it really is warm ( +16c in Veliko Tarnovo on Christmas Day ) . Even a sunny day here can create micro-climates at crocus flower level that allow the bees to be active,  essentially if the weather allows the crocuses to flower it's good enough for the bees.
This year has seen multiple melts and warm periods throughout December and early January which has been great for crocus seed from the crocus group seed ex. Simon direct sowed all his crocus seed when it arrived October 16th 2010 and it is germinating strongly.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: udo on January 16, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
After a very cold December follow a to warm January,
first flowers today:
Crocus biflorus ssp.artvinensis from NE-Turkey
   ``    nevadensis from S-Spain
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerry Webster on January 16, 2011, 05:01:45 PM
Dirk - C. nevadensis is particularly beautiful.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 16, 2011, 06:56:07 PM
A few crocdus today.

Crocus biflorus pseudonubigena KPPZ-108
Crocus biflora nubigena JP86-04, a little bit damaged.
Crocus chrysanthus from sumbegli.
Crocus korolkowii Lucky Number.
Crocus tauricus Ai--petri form
Crocus tauricus Ai--petri form
Crocus reticulatus  gulek-bogazi, Turkey.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 16, 2011, 07:50:27 PM
I thought mine were well ahead but yours, Michael, must be enjoying the 'heat' we are having now. 12c here today. I have lots of buds but still only Sunspot and ancyrensis out
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 16, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
spring in Austria too
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 16, 2011, 08:22:33 PM
Nice Crocus fireworks Michael !!  ;D
All brilliant, but that C. chrysanthus from sumbegli looks really quite special though !  Very yellow !  ;D

Nice Spring you're having Gerhard !!

I had C. fleischeri from the Gulek Pass in Turkey flowering today.
First picture was taken around 11 o'clock - the rest merely an hour later !

Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 16, 2011, 08:31:47 PM
My C. fleischeri is in flower too, but it isn`t in so good condition as yours Luc, congratulations....
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 17, 2011, 12:10:05 AM
Luc your second photo is very good.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 17, 2011, 09:00:54 AM
Very nice indeed Luc, Gerhard and Michael, spring has certainly sprung
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 17, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
We spend bit chillier winter days since new years day in Japan. Crocus korolkowii 'Yellow Tiger' is my first winter crocus this season.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: I.S. on January 17, 2011, 02:28:58 PM
 That is very nice to see the crocus season is on now :) :) :)

Gerhard is it posible to see your C. biflorus punctatus from top and do you know the location that where is it from? I have doubt it might be C. biflorus leucostylosus! The style seems like leuco on my screen!


Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 17, 2011, 02:31:28 PM
Nice Crocus fireworks Michael !!  ;D
All brilliant, but that C. chrysanthus from sumbegli looks really quite special though !  Very yellow !  ;D

Nice Spring you're having Gerhard !!

I had C. fleischeri from the Gulek Pass in Turkey flowering today.
First picture was taken around 11 o'clock - the rest merely an hour later !



You got a new camera by any chance Luc, those are cracking images.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 17, 2011, 02:40:21 PM
Thanks for the compliments David !
The camera is the same, but since I have more time on my hands now (working for the same boss as you now...  ;D), I can take the time to adjust the camera manually instead of putting it on automatic and the use of a tripod helps too...  ;) + good sunlight yesterday !!  8)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 17, 2011, 02:43:50 PM
Ah Luc, you have joined the ranks of the aged but happy ;D Many congratulations now you will have the time for much more channel hopping and much more JI purchasing too.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 17, 2011, 02:48:00 PM
Let the UK be warned...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 17, 2011, 02:55:00 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: WimB on January 17, 2011, 08:18:16 PM
A few which were flowering here yesterday:

Crocus alatavicus
Crocus atticus subsp. sublimis 'Michael Hoog's Memory'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Uschak Orange'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot'
Crocus korolkowii 'Lucky Number'
Crocus laevigatus
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 17, 2011, 08:22:44 PM
The season of Croconut heaven continues in earnest - what a delight  8)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 17, 2011, 08:27:17 PM
Lovely selection Wim.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 17, 2011, 09:16:11 PM
Luc I hope retirement goes well I can recommend it.

After the last few days of warmth with a temp of 10-13c the crocuses have shot up and I thought it was going to be a disaster with them elongating and falling over without opening. However a cold day and an hours sunshine  has opened a few.

First two are different collections of Crocus chrysanthus then
Crocus biflorus x chrysanthus hybrid
Bulbs from seed from one of the natural hybrids,not particularly exciting
Crocus bilforus ssp from near Adana
Crocus biflorus issauricus
Crocus biflorus crewii
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 17, 2011, 09:25:24 PM
Luc I hope retirement goes well I can recommend it.

Thank you Tony !  I do seem to get used to the situation quite easily...  ;D ;D and watching some gorgeous Crocus and this forum as a whole actually, is a great help  :D

By the way, these hybrids look great and your C. biflorus crewii blew me off my socks...  ;D :o :o :o
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 17, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Hey! Luc.... you have taken early retirement ? You kept that a secret, huh ? Best of luck to you. 8)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 17, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Have to agree with Luc. That biflorus crewii is to die for!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: tonyg on January 17, 2011, 11:31:51 PM
Very nice indeed Luc, Gerhard and Michael, spring has certainly sprung
Agree with all the comments about beautiful crocuses.
Saw my first roadside verge crocus today  :( :( :( Spring should NOT have sprung yet ... I want the cold weather back!!!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 18, 2011, 03:46:17 AM
A few which were flowering here yesterday:
Crocus alatavicus
Crocus atticus subsp. sublimis 'Michael Hoog's Memory'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Uschak Orange'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot'
Crocus korolkowii 'Lucky Number'
Crocus laevigatus

Wim, they're all so nice.  Hard to believe when I view the SRGC Forum that some member's gardens are so advanced with wonderful crocus species already appearing... it is -14C here right now, with another snow and ice storm brewing.  Back to crocus, I do like C. alatavicus very much, and korolkowii 'Lucky Number' doesn't seem half bad either ;)  Could your Epimediums be far behind?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 18, 2011, 08:36:02 AM
Hey! Luc.... you have taken early retirement ? You kept that a secret, huh ? Best of luck to you. 8)

Thanks Maggi... have been too busy to mention it...  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: WimB on January 18, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Wim, they're all so nice.  Hard to believe when I view the SRGC Forum that some member's gardens are so advanced with wonderful crocus species already appearing... it is -14C here right now, with another snow and ice storm brewing.  Back to crocus, I do like C. alatavicus very much, and korolkowii 'Lucky Number' doesn't seem half bad either ;)  Could your Epimediums be far behind?

Thanks Mark,

they are predicting temperatures down to -3°C for the following days again. Sunday was an exception: temps went up to +13°C and every bulb which was in bud started flowering.
I like C. alatavicus a lot too...and it does very well outside in a sunny place in pure sand.
No Epi's yet, though...they need more days in a row with warmer weather to start their growth spurts.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: WimB on January 18, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
Luc I hope retirement goes well I can recommend it.

After the last few days of warmth with a temp of 10-13c the crocuses have shot up and I thought it was going to be a disaster with them elongating and falling over without opening. However a cold day and an hours sunshine  has opened a few.

First two are different collections of Crocus chrysanthus then
Crocus biflorus x chrysanthus hybrid
Bulbs from seed from one of the natural hybrids,not particularly exciting
Crocus bilforus ssp from near Adana
Crocus biflorus issauricus
Crocus biflorus crewii

Tony,

Thanks for showing.
I love your C. biflorus...especially C. biflorus crewii...  :o :o
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Melvyn Jope on January 18, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
I expected that all of the crocus that I am used to see flowering in Greece in November to be finished by now but I still have a few C.biflorus ssp melanthrus in flower, this photo was taken two days ago.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 18, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
Wonderful flowers and superb picture Melvyn !  :o
I guess they took a little winter break during the cold spell before finishing their flowering.. ???
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 18, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
My crocuses have been a disappointment for the last couple of years. Probably neglect I must get them back on track.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 19, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
That is very nice to see the crocus season is on now :) :) :)

Gerhard is it posible to see your C. biflorus punctatus from top and do you know the location that where is it from? I have doubt it might be C. biflorus leucostylosus! The style seems like leuco on my screen!




many thanks for your interest ! I´m afraid we must wait for a further year. At the moment snow is falling, we won`t get sun the next days. So there isn`t a chance of open Crocus. I have got the plants from Sixtus, a german nursery. Many of his Crocus, and Biarum aren`t correct in name...

So you are welcome with help to find true names !
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 19, 2011, 08:56:21 PM
Wow! Congratulations! January started with so many phantastic images from adorable croci species gladdening me 8) 8) 8)

Many noses visible but no croci yet flowering in my garden. Only a bud of C. imperati 'De Jager' and some wilted buds of C. biflorus ssp. melantherus are visible...

I find it always remarkable how quick crocus can grow a flower. The stem and bud of C. imperati emerged and elongated to 11cm(!) within only 1 night after day temperatures raised to +12° & +14°C for two days.
However, I'm afraid this rasher one will not open its flower. :( Weather forecast predicts the next couple of days night frosts and low +1°C day with some snowfall.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2011, 09:10:41 PM
Quote
I find it always remarkable how quick crocus can grow a flower
I agree, Armin.... and Ian was saying the very same thing in his new bulb log today. It is quite remarkable how fast a crocus flower can appear... one of the many delights of these wee flowers.


 Gerhard, sorry to hear the snow is falling again with you  and that Armin may get more soon too. I hope it will not come here... we are at last getting some days when we are able to collect the leaves from the garden.  :-\
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 19, 2011, 09:43:36 PM
Maggi, thanks for the reminder.
Will read the latest bulb log now ;) :)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 21, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
We had some cold, freezing fog this morning, but then the sun appeared which was enough to make some Crocus' open up slightly :

1) Crocus abantensis is even more blue than the picture shows !  :D
2) Crocus atticus ssp sublimis 'Michael Hoog's Memory' - not fully open yet.
3-4-5) Crocus biflorus nubigena - one of my favourites !
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 21, 2011, 03:29:14 PM
Luc, seems your blue abantensis has a greenish tint like blue jade, a real stunner :o
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2011, 03:57:21 PM
Lovely Luc.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 21, 2011, 04:48:14 PM
I'm gutted all my crocus are still tight in bud,but on a brighter side seed from the crocus group seedex is germinating.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: hadacekf on January 21, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
Wonderful flowers and superb picture!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerry Webster on January 21, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
Very nice Luc.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 21, 2011, 07:13:32 PM
Luc,
your investment(s) pay off! ;D
Great images, especial like the ssp. nubigena :o
 
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 21, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
Thanks for the nice words everyone !
"Investment" is the right word in some cases Armin and this Forum was the start of it all !!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 21, 2011, 08:04:14 PM
Luc,
I know. ; BTW...I think you have by now still cv C. sieberi (ssp. atticus) 'Michael Hoog's Memory' ;)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 21, 2011, 09:31:19 PM
That's how Janis R. names it in his catalogue Armin....  ??? : C. atticus ssp sublimis 'Michael Hoog's Memory' ..  :D
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 21, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
Crocus sieberi subsp atticus
Crocus biflorus subsp. pseudonubigena
Crocus rujanensis
Crocus biflorus subsp isauricus
Crocus tauricus Ai -petri form
Crocus ancyrensis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Alex on January 21, 2011, 10:31:36 PM
Crocus cvijicii from a single corm from Janis a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: hadacekf on January 22, 2011, 09:47:08 AM
Michael,
Perfect flowers and superb pictures!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2011, 09:56:50 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 22, 2011, 10:45:40 AM
That's how Janis R. names it in his catalogue Armin....  ??? : C. atticus ssp sublimis 'Michael Hoog's Memory' ..  :D

Oh - I didn't recognise. If it is not a typo then I'll wait and hope to study the details later in Janis new Crocus book...

Michael,
super speci images. Hope you get a very good seed set!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2011, 11:00:49 AM
Thanks Armin, I have been tickling them with a small paintbrush,you can see the pollen all over the petals.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2011, 11:04:28 AM
Sadly I'm not able to keep Crocus cvijicii alive. It is OK the spring after I buy them but they then die  :'(

Luc what have I missed? You have a new camera?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Oron Peri on January 22, 2011, 11:43:29 AM
A few of mine are blooming today:
C. hartmanianus ex Cyprus
C. impertai suaveolens recived from Dirk S.
C. fleisceri ex. Chios
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
Crocus reticulatus Gulek-Bogazi, Turkey.?

Crocus biflorus pseudonubigena ?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2011, 03:12:54 PM
Crocus Nevadensis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: I.S. on January 22, 2011, 03:19:41 PM
 Michael very nice crocuses,
I think that one with black anther from Gülek pass is not C.reticulatus!
Maybe C. biflorus pseudonubigena with honey scent!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
Thanks Ibrahim,I guess you are correct, but that is what was on the label as I got it and I take all these things at face value as I don't have the desired knowledge on Crocus. I have emailed Janis for correction.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Hans A. on January 22, 2011, 06:17:13 PM
Superb Pictures everyone! Hard to decide which is the most beautyful - C. hartmanianus is  a real gem. Glad to receive Janis Crocusbook soon. :)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
From today - C. adanensis about to open (I think they look better at this stage than when actually open quite often - particularly in my greenhouse where they have usually etiolated by that time!) and a C. baytopiorum.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 23, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
yesterday the sun has shined, here some picts.....

Crocus aerius
Crocus crysanthus + cvijcii
Crocus cvijicii.jpg
Crocus fleischerii Gulek Pass
Crocus paschei
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 23, 2011, 09:13:06 AM
it`s Crocus-time..... :D


Crocus reticulatus Gulek Pogaei
Crocus vittelinus white
Crosus crysanthus Prespa Gold CH814
Crosus crysanthus seedlings + flavus dissectus
Crosus nevadensis
Crosus sieheanus
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 23, 2011, 11:33:10 AM
Luc,
I know. ; BTW...I think you have by now still cv C. sieberi (ssp. atticus) 'Michael Hoog's Memory' ;)
Crocus atticus 'Michael Hoog's Memory' is excellent clone, which I got from late Michael Hoog few years before his death under name Crocus robertianus. It turned one of the most beautiful forms of C. atticus and one of most hardy and excellent increaser. So I decided to name it in honor of my great friend.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 23, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
Sadly I'm not able to keep Crocus cvijicii alive. It is OK the spring after I buy them but they then die  :'(

Luc what have I missed? You have a new camera?
Most likely too dry in summer (or too hot - bring outside!!!!)
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 23, 2011, 11:39:40 AM
it`s Crocus-time..... :D


Crocus reticulatus Gulek Pogaei

Gulek Pass or Gulek Bogazi
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Diane Clement on January 23, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
No sun here to open crocuses, the only one near to opening is this little beauty
Crocus biflorus isauricus Akseki (from Janis)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 24, 2011, 01:25:26 PM
Very nice indeed Diane  :o and quite different from mine from the same source...

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6455.0
(reply 9)

I hope it opens up for you and you can show us another picture.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 24, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
From today - C. adanensis about to open (I think they look better at this stage than when actually open quite often - particularly in my greenhouse where they have usually etiolated by that time!) and a C. baytopiorum.

Alex,
C. adanensis nicely clumped up compared to the picture of last year 8)
Well done. :D
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 24, 2011, 02:56:48 PM
it`s Crocus-time..... :D
Crocus vittelinus white

Gerhard,
you have an exquisite croci collection 8)

Your white C. vitellinus is something special - I have not seen. :o
The flower resembles its autuum flowering relative C. hyemalis.

I like the C. aerius - do you have a picture from the flower inside too?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: I.S. on January 24, 2011, 04:31:56 PM
 The C. vitellinus white;
I would prefer to call it C. candidus! Maybe it is better to check the corm first.
 
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 24, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
The C. vitellinus white;
I would prefer to call it C. candidus! Maybe it is better to check the corm first.
 
I agree! Shape of petals, leaves, color.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 24, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
I`m just a Crocus-beginner !

Here is the source, I`ve taken over the taxon:

http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product.asp?s=hihy5m649006&P_ID=3157&strPageHistory=related

At this moment it isn`t the best time to check the corm.....



Coloration of Cr. aerius is unique !!!, I`ll try to get picts from the inside.....
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 24, 2011, 07:51:56 PM
it`s Crocus-time..... :D


Crocus reticulatus Gulek Pogaei

Gulek Pass or Gulek Bogazi
Janis

" Gulek Bogazi" , thanks for correction, I can`t read my own labels......  :-\
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 24, 2011, 09:03:12 PM
Ibrahim,
eagle eye! ;D
Indeed there are strong resemblances of C. candidus with Gerhard's 'white' vitellinus originated from PC...
Corm tunics will hopefully tell what it is...

Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 25, 2011, 01:54:21 AM
I’ve got a same crocus as Gerhard, from the same source in 2009. I hope these my larger pictures would be some help for your identifying. I’ll take corm tunic pics next time.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 25, 2011, 07:04:14 AM
I’ve got a same crocus as Gerhard, from the same source in 2009. I hope these my larger pictures would be some help for your identifying. I’ll take corm tunic pics next time.
Only 2 leaves in shoot, leaves very wide, flower color - for 95% it is candidus. Indeed nice form. Wrong names are quite common for PC supplies.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 25, 2011, 09:15:40 AM
I’ve got a same crocus as Gerhard, from the same source in 2009. I hope these my larger pictures would be some help for your identifying. I’ll take corm tunic pics next time.

I think it is clearly Crocus candidus and a very nice one. The picture on the web site also shows a C. candidus and not C. vitellianus. Unless you find it necessary to have every species this would seem a good aquisition although perhaps not at the price he charges
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 25, 2011, 04:25:31 PM
Janis and Tony W, Thank you very much for identifing the crocus ;) I'll change the label but it looks still charming...and I have to improve my eye for crocuses...
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: ian mcenery on January 27, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
One I had to warm up to photo  ::) (and pollinate) C baytopiorum (thanks Anne)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 27, 2011, 04:13:21 PM
Fine image Ian 8)
Hope you will get lots of seed!
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 27, 2011, 05:16:09 PM
Crocus michelsonii is my favorite :) I got 2 small corms instead of one flowering sized corm from a nursery in 2000 and 1 corm was disappeared soon. I think all plants in this pot are same clone, but they don't bloom in same time ??? Soil temperature are different between sunny and shaded side in a pot ??? ???
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 27, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
Oooh- :o very lovely.
I can understand why it is your favourite 8) 8)
Do you hand-polinate and does it set seed?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 27, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
many thanks for correction of white Cr. vitellinus

With angry I have found the second wrong labeled Crocus species of the same source.

This should be Cr. mathewii `Dream Dancer`, but it belongs rather to C. hadriaticus x cartwrightianus

It would be nice if somebody could show picts of true Cr. candidus , to see variations !
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 27, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
many thanks for correction of white Cr. vitellinus

With angry I have found the second wrong labeled Crocus species of the same source.

This should be Cr. mathewii `Dream Dancer`, but it belongs rather to C. hadriaticus x cartwrightianus

It would be nice if somebody could show picts of true Cr. candidus , to see variations !

The only Crocus candidus I have managed to flower,I find it difficult to grow and it is just about hanging on. Sorry about the quality of the picture
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 27, 2011, 09:03:40 PM

It would be nice if somebody could show picts of true Cr. candidus , to see variations !

Two pictures of candidus made in wild, Turkey.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on January 27, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
Dear Janis and Tony, many thanks for quick reply.

Your picts are a great help to understand and determine this Crocus species !
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 27, 2011, 09:22:29 PM
Gerhard,
I can soothe you - you are not the first croconut / forumist who feels fooled by a bulb supplier.
Mix of orders and impurities in stocks are realities to deal with. >:(

You 'Dream Dancer' resembles cv. 'Purple Heart'. It looks the anthers seem to be vestigial in your sample, too.

Additional to Janis and Tony's replies a little collection...
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 28, 2011, 03:17:43 AM
Additional to Janis and Tony's replies a little collection...

Armin, good job :D

Do you hand-polinate and does it set seed?

Yes, I’ve already done hand pollination these flowers yet and my plants usually set seed but not so many.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 28, 2011, 09:00:36 AM

You 'Dream Dancer' resembles cv. 'Purple Heart'. It looks the anthers seem to be vestigial in your sample, too.


Regarding Purple Heart (hadriaticus hybrid). Seems that it isn't true Purple Heart. There were some mix in original stock as you can see in attached picture's in right side, And this looks more as mix plants. True Purple Heart (confirmed by its breeder) is on left side and in seperate picture. Sorry for quality - for some mistake I deleted my original pictures and now used resized from my mail-box correspondence with breeder of Purple Heart.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: YT on January 28, 2011, 01:39:37 PM
True Purple Heart (confirmed by its breeder) is on left side and in seperate picture.

Oh...No... they foisted me the right side :o >:( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 28, 2011, 02:04:45 PM
a few in flower after a bit of heat treatment

Crocus biflorus ssp
Crocus biflorus ssp crewii
Crocus biflorus ssp alexandri
Crocus biflorus ssp pulchricolor white
Crocus chrysanthus
Crocus cyprius
Crocus fleischeri
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 28, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
All stunners,Tony. If I had to pick a favourite, it would probably be the biflorus alexandri.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Tony Willis on January 28, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
All stunners,Tony. If I had to pick a favourite, it would probably be the biflorus alexandri.

Martin what good taste.Not one I have set seed on yet but trying.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 28, 2011, 02:52:22 PM
No contest really, biflorus alexandri has always been one of my favourite crocuses but yours is especially nice. Exquisite is, I think, the word I'm looking for here.  8)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2011, 02:55:38 PM
The Crocus season is rolling along nicely..... deep joy!
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Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 28, 2011, 05:13:12 PM
Some sunshine here today.


Crocus chrysanthus
Crocus chrysanthus from Sumbegli
Crocus fleisheri Gulek Pass
Crocus gargaricus
Crocus korolkowii kiss of spring
Crocus nevadensis ?
Crocus sieberi  Bowles White
Crocus sieberi Gothenburg form
Crocus sieberi subsp atticus
Crocus angustifolius gold

Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: ian mcenery on January 28, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
This one I grew from seed which came as sieberi sieberi which it aint. I think it looks like ssp atticus and would welcome opinions so I can label it.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: tonyg on January 28, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
This one I grew from seed which came as sieberi sieberi which it aint. I think it looks like ssp atticus and would welcome opinions so I can label it.
First impression is ssp sublimis from the good colour and bright yellow in throat.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: ian mcenery on January 28, 2011, 06:46:54 PM
Thanks Tony the plant is very nice much nicer in real life.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 28, 2011, 08:33:43 PM
My fat corms of Dream Dancer and ?oreocreticus from Mr PC didnt flower
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 28, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
My fat corms of Dream Dancer and ?oreocreticus from Mr PC didnt flower

Mark, it is a pity!
Maybe they have been doped with too much anabolica ::)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Armin on January 28, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
TonyW,
as every year you surprise us with your beautiful species collection! The white pulchricolor is fantastic!

Michael,
great collection and photos, too!
It seems your nevadensis flower is formed by 2 or more merged stems in one.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 29, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
The Crocus season is rolling along nicely..... deep joy!
            

Quite right Maggi !

Glorious pictures Tony and Michael !!!  :o
We had some sunshine here as well, yesterday - so some more Crocus opened - we must keep the show going ...  ;D

1) Crocus abantensis
2) Crocus alatavicus
3) Crocus atticus ssp sublimis "Michael Hoog's Memory"
4 & 5) Crocus biflorus ssp nubigena sent up two more flowers  :D
6 & 7) Crocus sieberi "George"
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 29, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
All nice Luc. Where did you source "George" from please?
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 29, 2011, 04:56:04 PM
Got it from Janis a couple of years ago..  he's listing it this year again.  ;)
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 29, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Mmmmmmmmmm.  ;D
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: mark smyth on January 29, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
My korolkowii Snow Leopard has 4 noses and hopefully 4 corms
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Alex on January 29, 2011, 08:20:30 PM
A few closed Crocus flowers today - they don't often get enough light to open here unfortunately. Crocus veluchensis (from Tony Willis last year), C. cyprius, C. gargaricus ssp. gargaricus, C. cvijicii, C. paschei.

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: ashley on January 30, 2011, 12:10:29 AM
Very nice Alex.  Here they're staying closed too.  C. baytopiorum has been stuck like this for a couple of weeks now so will come indoors tomorrow for pollination.
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 30, 2011, 06:54:50 AM
Very nice Alex.  Here they're staying closed too.  C. baytopiorum has been stuck like this for a couple of weeks now so will come indoors tomorrow for pollination.

I'm doing the same, but not waiting so long. If flowers didn't open during first week, I'm bringing pot inside, pollinate and after few hours return it to greenhouse. But here up to first flowers still long waiting. Again current snowstorm and again roads closed. I not remember another winter when road cleaning cdould be needed so many times. Now it goes at least twice a week.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: ian mcenery on January 30, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
The Crocus season is rolling along nicely..... deep joy!
            

Quite right Maggi !

Glorious pictures Tony and Michael !!!  :o
We had some sunshine here as well, yesterday - so some more Crocus opened - we must keep the show going ...  ;D

1) Crocus abantensis
2) Crocus alatavicus
3) Crocus atticus ssp sublimis "Michael Hoog's Memory"
4 & 5) Crocus biflorus ssp nubigena sent up two more flowers  :D
6 & 7) Crocus sieberi "George"

Luc I see you have been shopping at the same place  ;)

Here is my alatavicus I had to give it a warm as it has been sitting ready to open for a least a week
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: Janis Ruksans on January 31, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
After two days of snowstorm I went to my nursery. Last 3 km I was forced to walk through deep snow. All the day huge caterpillar worked trying to clean road and when I walked back it still worked on 1 km with up to 1.5 m high snow heaps.  Day was sunny, so in greenhouses I took off glasswool sheets from my Crocus and Colchicum beds. Saw nice flowerbuds of C. baytopiorum, ancyrensis, michelsonii which developed below cover. All the day I passed with autumn blooming crocuses taking off cataphylls and flowers which came up under cover which were damaged by grey mould. But plants in general looked very well, single exception - C. robertianus. For it's pots I took away stonechips, topsoil and replaced them with fresh stonechips. In evening I was forced return covering as night was suspected very cold. But tomorrow I again will take away covering, will spray plantings with SWITCH - it is very good against Fusarium nivale and grey mould. All the following week will be (promissed) +/- 1 C, so plantings will remain open, but ready to cover again if temperature will drop dramatically. It is very unusual winter, comparatively mild, but very snowy with sudden temperature jumps. Still all February is ahead. Never had such dilemma before - to cover again or not. What is your opinion?
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus January 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on January 31, 2011, 07:14:15 PM
.............. Never had such dilemma before - to cover again or not. What is your opinion?

Janis, I think I would leave the covers on at night because........

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