Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: orpheos on December 24, 2010, 03:17:44 PM
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Hi everybody ;D
I'm a newbie of this forum but i cultivate plants for several years, especially succulents and orchids.. I'm also fallen in
love with African bulbs(also south America one;) ) and
now I'm here to ask if someone could help me to identify this one:
I've bought it from a German nursery and it has this label:
Nerine sp Resulution IB11248... i tryed searching on google but i didn't find anything usefull... i didn't find also the location in atlas trying both "Resolution" and "Resulution" ...
Any idea?
PS. the photo are not so good but it's raining a lot in these days
PPS. I'm sorry for my English, if i made some mistake please correct me;)
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Hello Orpheos ,
This Nerine plant comes from Ingo Breuer
his collection number is IB 11248 ( spec. Resulution )
You could try to write to Ingo via his Website :
http://www.eden-plants.de/
Good luck
Hans
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Hi Hans
i've bought it from him;) and i've already wrote to him but i think he is on holyday;)
i think also that if he knew the name, he would changed the label.. ???
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:-\ this is the usual problem with Ingo :-\
I also wait for a answer from him since some days ....
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Hello Orpheos,
The plant looks like Nerine undulata, this is a very variable species in the wild & includes plants once known as 'flexuosa', 'crispa' & 'alta' among others ~ if you can find where in South Africa the plant was collected, that might give some indication as to which undulata type your plant belongs.
However, if the plant was not wild collected, it could be an undulata hybrid such as 'Pink Triumph', 'Winter Sun' or 'Kinn McIntosh'. Have a go at self-pollinating the flowers ~ the species sets seed easily but the hybrids mentioned are sterile,
Malcolm
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thank you Malcom!
i will try to pollinate them! i think i have two bulbs in the pot, each one with a stem, i should make cross pollination between them or i should use only one?
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They tend to be strongly self-fertile, so you could use pollen from flowers on the same spike.
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Malcolm gave you good advice, but you should also get a copy of Graham Duncan's booklet, "Grow Nerines" published by Kirstenbosch (2002), ISBN 1-919684-33-6.
Jim
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@Malcolm: thank you!! when the stigma will be ready for pollination i will do it;) one last question: is all the nerine hybrids sterile?
@jim: thank you! i hope to find it! i have already searched online but no one is available :(
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Matteo, no, not all nerine hybrids are sterile. I'm not absolutely certain about this, but I think that hybrids between N. sarniensis & N. pudica are fertile and may set seeds, possibly this is also true of hybrids between N. sarniensis & N. humilis. Also, while many of the hybrids will never set seed, it is not infrequent that seed-sterile plants will show some pollen fertility: for example the Zeal hybrids (derived from N. sarniensis & N. bowdenii), which almost never set seed, are derived from repeatedly backcrossing sarniensis x bowdenii hybrids onto N. bowdenii. But of the hybrids mentioned earlier, 'Pink Triumph' & 'Kinn McIntosh' do not set seed & their pollen is entirely sterile.
Malcolm
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thank you for the explanation Malcolm!
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However, if the plant was not wild collected, it could be an undulata hybrid such as 'Pink Triumph', 'Winter Sun' or 'Kinn McIntosh'. Have a go at self-pollinating the flowers ~ the species sets seed easily but the hybrids mentioned are sterile,
Malcolm
I have a Nerine bowdenii here that has wintered successfully in a protected spot. It was bought as bowdenii 'Pink triumph'; it sets seeds but this is the first year they have ever ripened. I was always suspicious of the name as it looks like straight bowdenii to me, perhaps a tad larger. Thanks for the info on PT's sterility, I will re-label mine N. bowdenii.
johnw
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I'd definitely second the Nerine undulata or close hybrid ID. Yours very closely resembles mine, grown from seed, under that species name. The long slender stem is distinct for me too, unlike any other Nerine I've come across here. They set seed VERY easily, I'd go so far as to say that outside in my garden almost all flowers set seed in some form or other.
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hi to all and happy new year!
i've received new info;) Resulution is a farm about 10 km north-east of Grahamstown, 3326BA, next to the R67.
so i suppose it is a species or at least a natural hybrid
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I have a Nerine bowdenii here that has wintered successfully in a protected spot. It was bought as bowdenii 'Pink triumph'; it sets seeds but this is the first year they have ever ripened. I was always suspicious of the name as it looks like straight bowdenii to me, perhaps a tad larger. Thanks for the info on PT's sterility, I will re-label mine N. bowdenii.
johnw
I have a clone of bowdenii I got from Aad Koen that was somewhat hardy outdoors in the ground here in central Indiana. I call it "Koen's Hardy." Aad could over-winter it in the ground at his place in Monster, The Netherlands with no loss. I lost about 75% of the bulbs I planted in the ground over two winters, so now I keep them in pots. They bloom fairly reliably if you have a half-dozen or more bulbs. The season of bloom varies from September to December and they are fertile. I grow them outdoors under lath shade in summer and in the greenhouse in winter.
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I'll share this picture I got today from an English friend, now living in France.... the pic was taken a couple of months ago. Thanks to Jim Willis for this colorrful pic to cheer a very cold dark evening!