Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
General Subjects => General Forum => Topic started by: mark smyth on December 08, 2010, 10:53:18 AM
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The BBC have finally listened to two years of complaints about Gardeners World. Toby and Alys are out and Monty Don is back in.
http://blog.gardenersworld.com/2010/12/07/monty-don-returns-to-gardeners-world/ (http://blog.gardenersworld.com/2010/12/07/monty-don-returns-to-gardeners-world/)
Other than for eye candy why is Rachel de Thame back on the show ???
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I am at a loss to think why you thought it was any better with Monty Don who is no doubt a nice person but the programmes has been a dead loss for years.
Carol Klein was a year ahead of me at school but I did not know her. When I met here at her nursery she is as nice and enthusuastic in real life as on the tv.
Did not know Rachel de Thame was coming back but you have now got me all of a Worl !
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Tony I suppose it's all down to whether one enjoys watching the programme or watches and thinks if I had the room I would do that. I would love to turn my main raised bed in to a prairie but maybe that's now so last year.
I do agree the programme has been bad for a long time or is that because we all know so much now?
I've been trying to think of who has presented GW and can only come up with - Geoff Hamilton, Alan Titchmarsh, Geoffrey Smith, Percy Thrower, Bob Flowerdew
I think ITV did a gardening programme back in the '70s with an old guy with white hair and moustache and a younger guy with ?black hair. Who were they?
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Interesting news. I think the best TV gardening programme was "real gardens" with Monty Don and Carol Klein on Ch. 4.
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Carol's programme last week "The Science of Gardening" was very good. For some reason it's not on iplayer
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Science of Gardening was on iplayer - that's where I saw most of it. But ISTR things are only on iplayer for a week or similar.
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The best aspect of Mr Don's return is that he is presenting it from his own garden, it's always better when they do that rather than have to go somewhere else. I still have fond memories of Clack's Farm - wonderful name.
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I always watch gardener world. We don't have much choice with gardening programmes so I hope they don't stop the programme. I really like Carol Klein, she gets my vote ..she is always cheery and does get her hands dirty.
Angle :)
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We also get Gardeners World on Cable in Australia. Don't know how old the series is but they were continuously planting their new garden.
It did seem to me to be a bit contrived. Carol Klein was always interesting.
I get the impression that most gardening programs are pitched at the beginner - even our "Gardening Australia" , although it has shown some improvement with the new major presenter (Stephen Ryan)
Gardening programs generally seem to have become fewer and fewer. Clearly it is cheaper to make programs on selling houses, painting kitchens and bathrooms etc which all look alike.
I should stop the rant!!
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To me it's the top three ... Monty Don, Carol Klein and Chris Beardshaw. They all appear knowledgeable,approachable , keen to spread the word and with no apparent personal agenda or striving for
personal popularity.
Swift,Buckland and Fowler were nice enough but always seemed to the 2nd eleven
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Great choice Colin
John what happened in the GW you have? Who is presenting?
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Mmmm! But I do think Monty Don has a personal agenda-grow organic-and it does rankle with me when he pushes it at you in every way he can. Am I on my own in this?
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Mmmm! But I do think Monty Don has a personal agenda-grow organic-and it does rankle with me when he pushes it at you in every way he can. Am I on my own in this?
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Thank you Martin ;D
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Mmmm! But I do think Monty Don has a personal agenda-grow organic-and it does rankle with me when he pushes it at you in every way he can. Am I on my own in this?
No
Let's form a club
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Let's form a club
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We could call it Growmore
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Can I be the treasurer? ;D
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We could call it Growmore
Or maybe Miracle-Gro.
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Can I be the treasurer? ;D
I don't think that's the best idea, is it? You're liable to be arrested any time for civil disobedience and if you get away with that you'll be out spending the club's cash every Wednesday ::) I think I should keep the money... I'm very law-abiding and I hardly go out at all...... :D
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As if I would......I've never even heard of Hotel Chocolat.... :)
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Can I be the treasurer? ;D
I don't think that's the best idea, is it? You're liable to be arrested any time for civil disobedience and if you get away with that you'll be out spending the club's cash every Wednesday ::) I think I should keep the money... I'm very law-abiding and I hardly go out at all...... :D
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As if I would......I've never even heard of Hotel Chocolat.... :)
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It is odd that something as popular as gardening gets so few TV programmes compared to say history which has dedicated channels. Why not a channel for those interested in plants and wildlife- the two often overlap? As to quality you are better with the radio - including the Radio Scotland programme where Mrs Young works behind the scenes and Mr Y is sometimes one of the - very knowledgeable - panellists.
SdP
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Thank you, Stan, it is good to know the Potting Shed has its fans. ;)
Funnily enough, I recently heard of a new venture.... a horticultural TV channel and website, due to begin operations in the spring of 2011 .....
"The Horticultural Channel.tv is a new television channel all about gardening and allotments. The channel will launch on Sky during Spring 2011 as well as on-line at thehorticulturalchannel.tv "
How much coverage there will be of specialist plant subjects remains to be seen...... you can see the webpage here : http://thehorticulturalchannel.info/
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Did anyone see the The 3,000 Mile Garden, years ago?
Would dearly love to see that again.
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I don't think I've seen that repeated anywhere on satellite TV, Helen.
There's a book though.......
http://www.amazon.com/000-Mile-Garden-Eccentric-Gardeners/dp/0140254471
Roger Phillips (of "Rix and Philips Bulb Book and others!) fame and Leslie Land.
I remember being surprised that the American gardener was a woman, because "Leslie" with that spelling is a man's name here.
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Maggi, I think I saw it in Australia sometime in the 90's, was on ABC.
Think it was made by PBS.
It is probably on video somewhere.
I have been thinking about buying the book for about 10 years, still no closer to a decision. ::)
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In todays - dare I say - Sun Peter Seabrook says Toby, Joe and Alys are great. I think he should have gone to Specsavers for glasses and Visionexpress for a hearing aid
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Well it was The Sun Mark!! And I always though Peter Seabrook was a sensible chap, how wrong have I been?
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Mark you told me to go to Specsavers as well as Peter Seabrook,you seem keen on them,are you a shareholder?
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Mark you told me to go to Specsavers as well as Peter Seabrook,you seem keen on them,are you a shareholder?
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No, Peter needs to go to Specsavers so he can see what we see. Since the 3 kids came to GW I havent liked it and them
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Best gardening show I recall (for the specialists anyway) was 'Bloom' co-presented by forumist Bill Chudziak.
I do feel that Gardeners World serves a purpose, especially for the less experienced. I think many of us on here have perhaps moved on from the basics in some gardening disciplines. However - if I were to suddenly start growing veg, in which I would be a novice, then I feel the show would help me. And I could happily watch Rachel de Thame all day anyway...
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Quite an honest statement Darren ! ;)
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Quite an honest statement Darren ! ;)
Luc, it may be sometime before Darren is able to respond to your comment..... :-X Have I told you before about his tall, blonde and lovely wife, Susan........? ;)
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I liked the programmes "Bloom" with Bill Chudziak and Anne Swithinbank.....I especially liked the one on Ericaceae with a charming garden in N.E. Scotland..... :o 8) ;)
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Quite an honest statement Darren ! ;)
Luc, it may be sometime before Darren is able to respond to your comment..... :-X Have I told you before about his tall, blonde and lovely wife, Susan........? ;)
Oops, in that case it will be interesting to see how long it takes before he wakes up... ::) :P :-X
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I liked the programmes "Bloom" with Bill Chudziak and Anne Swithinbank...
Yes 'Bloom' was good, back to when Ch 4. did different things like televising Chelsea.
There was the one with Chris Beardshaw in a helicopter, which would have been more entertaining and informative if he'd landed in gardens without permission.
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There was the one with Chris Beardshaw in a helicopter, which would have been more entertaining and informative if he'd landed in gardens without permission.
Didn't they try a pilot episode like that with another presenter, David ? ..... project fell through when an enraged garden owner blasted him with a 12-bore....... ??? :-X ;)
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Carol Klein BBC cottage garden series starts tonight for UK viewers..... this report from
'Horticulture Week'
07 January 2011
'Life in a Cottage Garden' with Carol Klein begins at 8.30pm on BBC2 on 7 January.
The six part-series features garlic planting, snowdrops, hellebores, hedgelaying and cutting back plants in episode one.
Episode two (14 January) shows planting of celadines, violets and primroses as well as hedge cloud pruning.
Spring into summer's programme (21 January) shows planting of sweetpeas, picking slad and staking perennials. The programme also features honey bees, oriental poppies and bluebells.
High summer's episode (28 January) shows staking, deadheading roses and cutting of asters. Keline works on her hot borders planting castor oil plants, cannas, gingers and dahlias. She also finds sea holly on the beach.
In autumn's episode (4 February) Klein opens the garden for the Open Garden Scheme and in the final episode on 18 February she features holly, box, yew, viburnum, mahonia and snowdrops.
Klein said: "It is a privilege to live here and work in this beautiful place."
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Didn't look so good when I last visited a few years ago. Looked a bit of a mess really. Maureen ventured the view that at that time my garden looked better than hers.
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In her defence, David, she does seem to actually garden. Paddy
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Yes Paddy, I think she does.
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I've always fancied a garden like Carols. I'm adding more and more perennials to my raised beds
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From a Dutch viewpoint I think the Brits have some decent gardening on television. Compare that we us: we only have 2 'gardening' shows on tv which are filled with product placements from various sponsors. They are not about gardening but about selling products (plants and material) to the consumer. These programmes are on our commercial tv stations. Public tv doesn't have anything on gardening or plants. The public stations in Belgium (we can receive them here in the Netherlands) do also not have a gardening programme (as far as I know). The German public stations do have 1 gardening show (Heim und Garten, on WDR) once a month, 30 minutes).
So I think the British have, in comparison to the continent, no reason to complain. I do understand that you can get tired of Carol Klein taking cuttings or sowing seeds for the twentieth time but at least you can watch to some real gardening on television.
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Didn't look so good when I last visited a few years ago. Looked a bit of a mess really. Maureen ventured the view that at that time my garden looked better than hers.
It seemed shambolic when I visited but it did not seem to matter,there were loads of great plants and her enthusiasm was great also. As my wife says I never see the weeds,(even in our own garden) and overall effect, only the plants I want to see. It was a most enjoyable visit to stand and talk with someone who was actually interested in the plants and not particularly in selling them.